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Bymas 200 iq read
sergej | 
United States burNout_ 
I get that he's criticized a lot, and the criticism is fair, but this read blew my mind clips.twitch.tv/CautiousSingleHumanSquad..
2021-04-07 21:07
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People hate on him cause its trendy, bymas is good
2021-04-07 21:07
20 replies
He is good but he isnt proper t1 material just yet Really doesnt help him that Karrigan is the best mentor a young player can have and he's lost that
2021-04-07 21:09
13 replies
+1 This team would actually be so good long term with karrigan not only he is proven t1 IGL that can do wonders with talented squads but many people confirmed he is really good at teaching CS
2021-04-07 21:28
10 replies
Hes got the opportunity to stay in CS for ages, even when his mechanics are gone he can be so solid as either an analyst or freelance trainer This mouz team could have been competitive with karrigan like the woxic one at the end of 2019, but times change, and it's mouz fault for basicaly letting karrigan walk away and not even fix problems until it was too late
2021-04-07 21:45
9 replies
He wanted to go. I think its money thing for him and faze will always have more money than mouz. If it was something else i would be really surprised. I am not saying faze is bad but mouz with karrigan seemed like better team than this faze roster. Anyway it was his choice and i dont think mouz org could have done a lot more to keep him
2021-04-07 21:49
8 replies
Money was definitely a factor in terms of salary, it's generally expected this will be his last team as part of an active roster I've heard that he wasn't happy with mouz as an org after benching woxic though, they supposedly wouldn't look for a new awper after benching woxic so they had the whole karrigan and Chrisj awping mess that set them back a lot
2021-04-07 21:52
7 replies
Well they did sign acor so i am not really sure if it was after he made his mind up or what was going on
2021-04-07 22:17
6 replies
I think this was their oh shit we've just benched Chrisj and now karrigan is leaving and none of the 3 left want to awp moment For the karrigan roster it was far too late to sign an awper, they probably chose to get acor when they realised they'd have to get a new igl as well
2021-04-07 22:19
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I know its possible but at that point karrigan could have still stayed. But he most likely made promises at that point. IDK its a shame for both parties that it didnt work out. Anyway mouz still have potential so i am actually willing to give them time before writting them off.
2021-04-07 22:24
4 replies
Yea, imo 2-3 more t1 events before an actual judgement on mouz can be made, but so far it hasnt looked the best
2021-04-07 22:48
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but atleast you can see steady progress they are making less mistakes and the ones they make arent as dumb as they were. I think that in summer they will be solid team already against most top15 teams.
2021-04-07 22:49
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Hopefully, I'm indifferent about acor and dexter but the other 3 I only hope for the best
2021-04-07 22:51
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Dexter just won them the tournament so i deffinetly think mouz have hope clips.twitch.tv/AbnegateSmokyLardOptimiz..
2021-04-07 22:56
Well he can have excuses cuz u are 17 y.o u still need to go to school (btw now is the hardest period in Lithuania in school's) , second so many roster changes and he has to learn so many thing and adapt to team too , i truly believe he can become better but these stuff step him back or just stops him to improving
2021-04-07 21:31
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Yea I believe so to, but I don't think the stability he needs to develop is in mouz anymore When I think of potential international lineups for budget orgs like OG he is there though, and if there was ever another frozen, ropz +2 team I can kind of see him working out well again
2021-04-07 21:48
maybe its trendy but hes not performed consistently enough where a few bad performances can be ignored. hes got hella potential but hes not reaching it and only time will tell if dexter can unlock that potential
2021-04-07 21:48
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It probably won't be dexter that let's him reach it, he's skipped all the lower scene and the knowledge and skills he need will only really be held by a higher level igl/coach
2021-04-07 21:54
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i wouldnt say he skipped all of the lower tiers but hes definitely had an accelerated ascent. theres already a high level coach in mithr at mouz so it all depends on how dexter does really to see whether this is the team bymas blossoms on
2021-04-07 21:59
Bymas Lithuania Aurimas Pipiras mousesports 18 years RATING 2.0 0.96
2021-04-07 22:01
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hermion Finland Benis Perkele No team 14 years RATING 2.0 0.01
2021-04-07 22:07
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still doesnt make bymas good axaxa
2021-04-07 22:09
#2
Brian | 
United States Jeebur
He has a ton of potential that NiKo didn't see. Karrigan definitely saw it and I hope others do now too
2021-04-07 21:08
7 replies
He was stand in in faze .he said cold taught him many things but he wasnt prepared for those roles.so they had to pick someone experience and so they choose kjarbye.
2021-04-07 21:12
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He was just forced to play bitch roles on faze, there wasn't an attempt to use a 16 year old pugstar where he would be useful. He was just stuck in anchor positions
2021-04-07 21:14
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#60
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Poland kvvach
tbbh hes here only thanks to niko
2021-04-07 22:04
3 replies
True,and why would a team change whole struture for a stand in.
2021-04-08 05:32
2 replies
He wasn't a stand in though, he was on trial period, just like Broky was when he joined.
2021-04-08 05:38
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#104
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Poland kvvach
he was development playerr
2021-04-08 12:44
Lol, NiKo saw those, that's why he picked him and why he thought he was a rising star but the role they needed on Faze wasn't the role that fits Bymas, plus he said his communications wasn't on point to play anchor, so they had to let him go.
2021-04-07 22:08
decent
2021-04-07 21:09
probably ropz called it
2021-04-07 21:09
That is so sick.
2021-04-07 21:10
#10
try | 
Italy ROMAG
read? he was rotating with knife in hand, the cis player was just running in the tunnels
2021-04-07 21:13
13 replies
+1, he was rotating to B.
2021-04-07 21:14
No, because when he first jumped down from heaven he had his m4 out, he only pulled his knife out after he heard them open double doors.
2021-04-07 21:18
6 replies
That makes it even less of a read, because it means he expected them upper until he heard them lower.
2021-04-07 21:48
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Lol that’s not it. He knew it potentially was lower fake into upper, that’s why he didn’t go through ramp, but was walking slow towards vents. Then after he heard the door, he knew they were there so he pulled the knife out, still walking towards vents, not running. I’m sure he wanted to hold vent until they plant lower, and still expected the vent rotate.
2021-04-07 22:03
4 replies
It was a smart rotation, but not necessarily a read. Everything from the moment he is pulling out the knife is based on sound he hears.
2021-04-07 22:06
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Yes, also thought of that first, I just still think that it’s a read, since he should have definitely expected that to happen, it’s not that rare. Tho I agree that’s not a “200iq read”, as OP presents it.
2021-04-07 22:10
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Let's just agree that he played it well. It's like the dosia nade, people did it before him, it's not 200IQ, but is pretty smart and just a good play.
2021-04-07 22:56
1 reply
Yeah, good point.
2021-04-08 08:13
+1 winstrike's mistake
2021-04-07 21:40
3 replies
Just like fallen telling liquid to go b from arch with 25s left on inferno to lose the series vs G2 KKKKKKKKK
2021-04-07 23:02
2 replies
i know right sometimes csgo hurts
2021-04-07 23:04
1 reply
True.
2021-04-07 23:05
His read was that they were coming straight up the vents without first faking with smokes. So he had the right read, just not a super precise one, still very impressive though.
2021-04-08 05:41
That was btw super poorly played by ex-Winstrike...
2021-04-07 21:13
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#85
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CIS sasha1608
ELIAN HAD 37 SECONDS TO GO FROM LADDER TOWARDS THE RAMPS SO HE COULD TRY TO WIN IT EASILY -10/10 Play for Elian
2021-04-07 23:10
#14
jL | 
Lithuania Wydas
200iq from GODMAS and fail from rusians because first one going with bomb :D
2021-04-07 21:17
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#86
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CIS sasha1608
no, because Elian is retarded who cant realise that he should go to secret, he had enough time...
2021-04-07 23:11
#15
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Poland Santho
0/8 bait, he was rotating to B 10 IQ play from bymas but 1IQ play from ruski
2021-04-07 21:18
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2021-04-07 21:20
+1 he was committed to go down to B through vents till he heard the noise.
2021-04-07 21:21
+1
2021-04-07 21:59
+1 LOL
2021-04-07 23:22
200 iq read??? botmas wanted to push down through vents and luckily enemy overthought and did a risky rotation.
2021-04-07 21:20
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#16 if that was the case he wouldn't have had his m4 out after jumping from heaven, since he knew where both Ts were
2021-04-07 21:23
0/8 why would he drop down vents in 1v2 when that angle can be tightly held
2021-04-07 21:33
5 replies
becuase you have many options. single door/double door/ control room especially double door and control room are really strong positions compared to ramp.
2021-04-07 21:36
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Not when you're at a man disadvantage bcuz 1 T can easily hold for the drop while other plants the bomb. Pros usually go for vent drop when there's only 1 terrorist alive
2021-04-07 21:41
Why would he have his m4 out while being on upper? If he had the read that they are downstairs, he would have knife in hand.
2021-04-07 21:49
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Um you have completely got it mixed up. Bymas gets a pick outside. Ts get the info and rush lower. Instead of rotating he stays upper, pulls the knife out to roate lower when he hears them running but switches back to the m4 as he figures out they're coming up vents. The read is that he didn't instantly rotate to lower after getting a pick.
2021-04-07 21:55
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No, he has the m4 in hand while dropping which suggests that he is ready for a fight. So what his read was is that the t's would go up secret again and push mini. At least he was prepared for that as he went to vents for the rotate. He has the m4 in hand until he hears them lower, then he pulls out the knife. Then he hears them go to vents so he stays there with m4 in hand.
2021-04-07 22:00
nvm
2021-04-07 21:25
#23
jL | 
Lithuania Wydas
ramp rotate is way faster why did he than didnt go to ramp? if yuo say its not the read?
2021-04-07 21:25
1 reply
retaking from ramp is much harder
2021-04-07 21:25
#28
honda | 
Brazil kindo
bymas is the best he gave me a knife
2021-04-07 21:28
He's underrated af
2021-04-07 21:30
#32
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Georgia Xeeh
Just dumb luck honestly, especially considering they sent the bomb up first instead of the other player
2021-04-07 21:34
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#33
jL | 
Lithuania Wydas
how is c9 doing?
2021-04-07 21:36
1 reply
#40
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Georgia Xeeh
Do you think I care? I only put that as my flair after winning a ton on one of their upset wins
2021-04-07 21:41
+1
2021-04-08 12:47
+1, just lucky moment
2021-04-08 12:57
#35
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Russia KEMSN
LUL Bymas has not been performing well in the last few months... but yesterday and today he is doing well.
2021-04-07 21:36
His team probably told him what to do.
2021-04-07 21:38
This was just a very bad play by Winstrike, the only thing he did good was trying to rotate quietly through vents rather than the ramp since they last saw him lower and expected him to rotate by ramp. But it was a really bad play by Winstrike instead of going for the a 2v1 fight they gambled for A with low time which was very risky and rotated the bomber first lmao. Though I will give credit where credit is due and I actually like Bymas quite a lot, does decent enough job for now and has high potential, could be very good in a couple of years.
2021-04-07 21:43
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the only thing he did good is the thing that won his team the round got it
2021-04-07 23:09
#87
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CIS sasha1608
When there was 1v1 ELIAN COULD HAVE WENT TO SECRET, HE HAD ENOUGH TIME BUT INSTEAD HE WAS TRYING TO KILL HIM BEING ON LADDER... LMFAO
2021-04-07 23:12
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Nope, probably wouldn't have worked since Bymas had a smoke for main and time was low, but trying to push through vent so quick won't help either so should have just tried to save or push ladder after 20 seconds or so.
2021-04-08 19:14
That was the right move to do.
2021-04-07 21:50
really good
2021-04-07 21:51
That's a smart way to rotate, but not necessarily a read. By rotating this way, he hears them if they are down on b but also can fight if they try to go A. And it is likely that they aren't hold ladder as they will both have to take the site to be able to trade each others.
2021-04-07 21:52
#53
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Poland JKG
More like 2 iq play from Winstrike but kk He didnt read shit and wanted to go down vent, but ruski idiots went A LMAO Like what was the point of that if they had no info on bymas' current position, they just assumed he will go ramp
2021-04-07 21:54
Retard rotation because it was a 2vs1, they had utility and they knew where Bymas could be in case of rush.
2021-04-07 22:10
200 IQ
2021-04-07 22:11
#76
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Portugal dracø
they were running pretty much the entire time, he went for vents and heard them coming up lol
2021-04-07 22:57
Reminds me of clutch that huNter did once, against fnatic.
2021-04-07 23:00
#81
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Luxembourg x1fy
He just got lucky here lol
2021-04-07 23:05
#82
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CIS sasha1608
LMFAO WHY DIDNT ELIAN GO THROUGH THE SECRET HE HAD ENOUGH TIME
2021-04-07 23:07
LMAO No it wasnt read from botmas, he wanted to go b through the vents
2021-04-07 23:09
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#88
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CIS sasha1608
+1 and moreover WHY DIDNT ELIAN GO THROUGH THE SECRET HE HAD ENOUGH TIME (when it was 1v1)
2021-04-07 23:13
9 replies
Got scared and tilted at the same time i guess
2021-04-07 23:15
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#90
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CIS sasha1608
that means he just sucks lol
2021-04-07 23:20
3 replies
Tbh forester (or who was the first guy) should've bait peek from the vents for info and then go. But instead botmas got a clutch (:
2021-04-07 23:22
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#93
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CIS sasha1608
It's just hilarious, so many mistakes from Winstrike And why tf people call it 200 iq, it's 0 iq from Winstrike
2021-04-07 23:26
#94
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CIS sasha1608
We can conclude for sure that Mousesports sucks if they barely beat Winstrike (in overtimes)
2021-04-07 23:26
Because actually there wasnt so much time. There was around 30-35s when it was 1vs1 and Bymas would have heard if El1an run toward secret. If El1an shiftwalk, he would have about 10-15s and he have to find out where Bymas is and pick up and plant the bomb. No time for fake plants or go back to B etc. And of course Bymas would have been aware that he may have gone to secret if he doesnt come from vent. Edit: and El1an maybe thought that Bymas will run out of bullets bcs he shot them from heaven, under heaven, first guy from the vent and he bait him shoot couple of bullets more.
2021-04-08 00:25
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#96
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CIS sasha1608
it takes 15-20 seconds to go from vents to main, he will have 15 more seconds to take bomb: there will be 3 following options after that: 1) to go B (he will have time but it will be like 3-4 seconds left when he will plant bomb on b) 2)to go A 3)to kill Bymas More like 3rd option and it's the most real situation
2021-04-08 00:24
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Yes but he cant just come from mini without clearing angles and just take the bomb and plant. If he waste 15-20s Bymas would be anywhere and he cant clear every angles without making steps and it is so slow with AWP scoped anyway and he definetely would run out of time.
2021-04-08 00:29
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#99
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CIS sasha1608
it's still more chanses than to try to kill him being on ladder
2021-04-08 02:03
Even I knew the play, that it they would come up . Nothing special
2021-04-08 12:49
that's because u are Silver, why would the go back up? only Silver plays
2021-04-08 12:55
why c4 go first,i saw this stupid play like 30 times.Faking b and going up vent its ok but why is c4 going first
2021-04-08 12:57
2 replies
silver game
2021-04-08 19:15
Lol cause other dude has more nades to throw and they don’t think it will matter cause most people won’t make such a big brain read
2021-04-08 19:21
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