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Is Astralis done?
i am | 
Finland iBait 
Every dynastic team falls off eventually and it's about time Astralis falls off too The 6-man sham has been a waste of everyone's time, Magisk is suffering from the same IGL curse that got Hiko, gla1ve's strats don't work against insta headshotting Russians and Xyp9x was reportedly close to leaving the team last year and he clearly isn't at peak motivation. Astralis is a very beatable team and it's about time other teams follow Spirit's example and stop being so scares of their legacy
2021-04-08 18:16
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2:0 for HAVUja
2021-04-08 18:16
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#3
i am | 
Finland iBait
+1
2021-04-08 18:17
+1
2021-04-08 18:50
+1
2021-04-08 18:57
not done just going into match fixing mode like old VP back in the days. a dead horse no one will investigate.
2021-04-08 18:17
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#49
OK | 
United States Bioax
lmao how much
2021-04-08 20:10
#4
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Netherlands staticNL
"Astralis is a very beatable team and it's about time other teams follow Spirit's example and stop being so scares of their legacy" exactly
2021-04-08 18:17
#5
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Panama Bill_Bait
gambot
2021-04-08 18:18
ez 2-0 for astralis
2021-04-08 18:18
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#11
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United States logantk
imagine, would prove goat forever
2021-04-08 18:21
#42
i am | 
Finland iBait
hmm
2021-04-08 19:38
#7
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United States daly92
Yes.
2021-04-08 18:18
Come on ax1le and interz, do it for my fantasy
2021-04-08 18:18
I think they got till the end of this year before things really start to collapse for them
2021-04-08 18:19
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#30
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Argentina Aleeee
+1 let's see what happens in the next major
2021-04-08 18:36
#10
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Brazil batcompany
I hope not. Astralis leaving the top reminds me of the episode of Everybody Hates Chris, where Caruso is defeated and the school becomes a mess.
2021-04-08 18:20
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Astralis bring a competitiveness that very few teams are capable of replicating. I hope they don't fall off in this shit online era. If anything it should happen at LAN in a major final or smth...just like old VP.
2021-04-08 18:25
CS:GO suffers the same Problem CS suffered in the last Years. While CS:GO has more Tactical Options thanks to actual working Smokes and ofc Molotovs. In the End it comes down to: Can you kill the Enemy before he kills you ? Older People will remember when CS started to shift from slower Rounds with lots of Wallbanging and shit to Players going for the Instant Headshots. Thats why Russians are better right now.. lets be honest they are garbage at playing Tactical
2021-04-08 18:21
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I think gambit will start losing on lans
2021-04-08 18:23
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Sure they will. alot of the players will not play like that one Lan when so many ppl are there. Astralis and some of the top 10 team, is icecold when it comes to Lan, Online it to easy for new players.
2021-04-08 18:34
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Yeah and also astralis play better on lan lol
2021-04-08 18:38
''blah blah blah they will never perform that well on LAN blah blah blah''. U basically have the same pc, same gaming devices and ur own skill on LAN as in online matches. 0 difference. Keep making excuses :)
2021-04-08 20:06
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+1
2021-04-08 20:10
#53
koks | 
Yugoslavia al0))
gambit is actually tactical wise pretty good imo. they are always very well prepared and can addapt, also nafanys mid round calls are really on point and their spacing is really good :) i agree on vp, spirit and navi(on the tactics) but as i said i think gambit looks like a really good team
2021-04-08 20:13
At this point its either device/dupreeh 30 bombs or lose. Its probably the worst astralis in terms of tactical play since their era has started. Well, as op said - every dynastic team falls of eventually
2021-04-08 18:22
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dupreeh 30 bomb XAXAXA
2021-04-08 18:59
#14
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Romania styl3noxe
Just try to remember how many times you guys said this.
2021-04-08 18:23
"Astralis is a very beatable team" like any other you mean? yeah they should disband "Ibait"
2021-04-08 18:23
It'd be nice to see the 5 man roster in an org that wasn't abusive.
2021-04-08 18:26
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Bring bub plz
2021-04-08 18:27
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I mean, the best person for him to replace in terms of roles and playstyle would be dupreeh, and that ain't happening anytime soon.
2021-04-08 18:29
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So your just locking him up in Astralis
2021-04-08 18:31
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??? His buyout is 500k+, no team is gonna buy him. I'm not locking him anywhere. He cucked himself.
2021-04-08 18:32
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Idk Astralis probably told him that he could be 6th man or some shit then got locked into down abusive contract.
2021-04-08 18:33
#22
i am | 
Finland iBait
Yeah for sure
2021-04-08 18:28
No astralis = liquid top1
2021-04-08 18:26
someone who everybody hates here in hltv said: if astralis doesnt get knocked out of the top 3-5 by other teams this year, they're not even trying. i agree. its getting ridiculous how long they've been good with this lineup, and if the rumors are true, theyre starting to hate each other so maybe THATS whats actually gonna end them lol but what does a dumbass like me know huh? just speculating out here
2021-04-08 18:31
"Every dynastic team falls off eventually and it's about time Astralis falls off too" Well, simple math. Yea. The question is whether the time is NOW or they can stretch it maybe 1 year. "The 6-man sham has been a waste of everyone's time" Not really. Not even themselves expected it to work. It's done just in case, if somebody in the team takes leave like last year. It's kinda necessary. "is astralis done?" for sure they are nowhere near the level (relative to other teams) that they had until 2019 and maybe the end of last year. it's hard to tell if they are really DONE, but things don't work forever, and the time might be closer than ever. this is not to say they won't win a major again, it's still feasible, but the rest of the field has caught up and this is good for the sport. strats are important but you also (mainly) need to hit the bullets, and right now, the CIS teams are the ones hitting everything, hard to counter play this if you don't hit your own shots - only device, dupreeh and oddly gla1ve are hitting them. my opinion is, yes they are basically done. after winning four majors, it must be hard to pep themselves up before every game, and especially when you're experiencing first hand how it's getting harder and harder to win. we might see them winning maybe one more tournament but for this roster I think we've already seen the best.
2021-04-08 18:37
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#34
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Argentina Aleeee
of course, what can be better than winning 4 majors. Astralis reached its peak a long time ago
2021-04-08 18:43
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Totalmente, mono. The thing is.. People think Astralis will keep winning everything forever, and whenever somebody suggest that the team might be done soon, they take it like you're just "hating" or whatever. Nobody is hating anything. Good things DO and WILL come to an end.
2021-04-08 20:01
See the scary thing is they could be saving strats for major and also they can just start playing insane again at anytime especially with dev1ces form rn
2021-04-08 18:37
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"saving strats for major" hahaha
2021-04-08 18:59
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Kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-04-08 20:12
#33
ropz | 
Netherlands ONGix
As long as magisk dupreeh and glaive don't mind carrying device's career Astralis should continue being relevant until CS is totally dead in a couple of years
2021-04-08 18:39
doubt, it's just online era and you could say it about all top dogs - no consistency, motivation issues etc. yes, Astralis dropped off but all the top teams did. they might end up having roster changes though, motivational issues are no joke
2021-04-08 18:48
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It's online for everybody else and they've had more than enough time to adapt.
2021-04-08 20:01
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and they adapted, who did adapt better? I am talking about pre covid top teams. navi is just as shaky as astralis (and won only 1 tournament in online era), fnatic, g2, nip and mouz are not even top 10 atm. liquid is bad, eg on their way to disband. when you compare astralis to old astralis they look bad but when you compare to other established teams they look pretty decent. entire scene dropped off.
2021-04-08 20:08
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the thing is, it's pointless to think of "pre covid" because that time is over, right now we are living during-covid and then post-covid, things aren't the same anymore and won't ever be the same anymore... when we have the LANs back, truth is we just don't know what's gonna happen... all the astralis roster will be fairly old anyawy...
2021-04-08 20:09
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sure but how many teams did better than astralis over last months? sure, gambit is on fire but who else? astralis have a bad time and still stay in top3, that's pretty good if you compare them with other established orgs.
2021-04-08 20:14
#37
cyx | 
Denmark VojenZ
Their era/dynasty is over and has been for a year. They "just" a top 5 team now.
2021-04-08 18:56
not even close. Yes, losing sucks but i dont think the team will explode even if they go out in groups in this online era. So they will be together till at least summer 2022
2021-04-08 18:59
wait for lan
2021-04-08 20:09
Yes and I think ENCE is the team to do it #EZ4ENCE
2021-04-08 20:10
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