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Cadian new fallen??
nawwk | 
Asia forest_deserves_better 
Good calling + god awper. Reminds of fallen from 2016.
2021-04-11 20:25
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FalleN was much better in 2016 then CadiaN is now but I see what you mean
2021-04-11 20:25
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Fallen was not even close to what Cadian is now.
2021-04-11 23:16
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Fallen was better lol
2021-04-11 23:18
u right. Fallen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cadian
2021-04-11 23:18
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#149
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Serbia LtN))
+1
2021-04-13 14:43
2 majors top 2 player... and you're saying that Fallen was even close... Dont be stupid.
2021-04-11 23:19
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s1mple also top2 player but people put some random person: zywoo above him and act as if top2 is nothing
2021-04-13 07:12
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> random person > Zywoo don't put these in the same sentence
2021-04-13 14:26
#143
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Brazil Moglao
top 2 just behind his own teammate, which makes it more impressive
2021-04-13 14:18
lmaoo. he got few good maps that they barely won. well deserved victory but fallen >>>>>>> cadian. even dupreeh said that peak fallen is better than zywoo and s1mple as awper and it was harder to play against him
2021-04-11 23:23
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prime FalleN is probably the most complete package of any player ever
2021-04-12 00:19
I'm not what you would call a FalleN fan but FalleN was far better, CadiaN is a great player but he sure as hell ain't no 2016 FalleN
2021-04-11 23:24
#96
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Sweden ezwuo
one of the most delusional comments i've seen
2021-04-11 23:30
Fallen top 5 over most overrated players. Plus he played back when there was no competition.
2021-04-11 23:40
16 replies
probably 12 years old, take easy with this poor kid
2021-04-11 23:41
1 reply
another mad Furia fan.. I not only get CIS tears tonight.
2021-04-11 23:43
Cadian peaking on online era?
2021-04-11 23:51
Flag checks out
2021-04-13 07:14
#129
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Europe Pts
you spelled device wrong
2021-04-13 07:28
#131
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North America 007DBR9
cs has only gotten less competition as time has go on, sure the average skill level is higher because obviously the game has been out longer, but now there only seem to be about 3 teams that you could actually expect to win an event
2021-04-13 13:16
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what are you talking about. In the past you had like 1-2 teams who always won the tournaments in the given era. Today you have like 7-8 teams who is competing for the gold. I mean, who had known Heroic would win this tournament? They were basicly rank 12 with a new roster and still without a real coach. It also make more sense due to alot more organisations investing in the game, more ressources plus everyone is at the same starting point with focus on a psychological approach to the game , focus on utility, plus most strategies have already been tested and executed. Not much to innovate.
2021-04-13 13:47
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#133
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North America 007DBR9
didn't read lol
2021-04-13 13:48
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but you had the energy to make a dull statement..
2021-04-13 14:40
#139
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Italy ROMAG
imagine thinking that 2015, 2016, 2017 had no competition. LOL good b8 btw
2021-04-13 13:58
2 replies
not compared for today.. not even close.
2021-04-13 14:41
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#151
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Italy ROMAG
Online era lol. This period had a super dominante fnatic, NiP comeback in 2015, french envyus, french G2, tsm and Astralis rising after that, faze, vp, navi, mouz with oskar, even gambit. ALL of them were dangerous that could steal trophies, even more. But pls, Tell me what is your argumento tô say that now 2019-2021 is more competitive than 2015 until 2017(8)?
2021-04-13 18:07
#141
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Brazil InViktor
probably 12 years old, take easy with this poor kid
2021-04-13 13:58
1 reply
more Furia tears.. I need it
2021-04-13 14:41
0/8
2021-04-13 13:59
#144
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Romania tobz83
fallen most overrated player of all time and cadian 10x better than peak fallen
2021-04-13 14:22
#101
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
0/8
2021-04-11 23:42
nice bait
2021-04-11 23:44
1 reply
Sooo many Furia tears in this thread. More plz
2021-04-11 23:45
#127
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United States Fordring
wtf bro, stop smoking weed
2021-04-13 07:25
XDDDD
2021-04-13 07:29
FalleN is one of the csgo GOATs he has the game feeling like noobdy did in his prime time,also he managed to win 2 majors
2021-04-13 13:52
#140
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France PqSxd
This is what brazilians know as "Clubismo", and this was the most "clubista" thing I have ever seen, saying that Cadian is better than Fallen, Fallen is a top 5 awper in csgo history, and Cadian is at max at the top 5 now, let´s see how he does in Lan, if he get a top 20 spot and win some titles.
2021-04-13 13:57
#150
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Serbia LtN))
LMFAO flag checks out
2021-04-13 14:43
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We still won. Dont cry.
2021-04-13 21:39
Eh depends on how you look at it,the skill ceiling now is much higher than before so there's that argument
2021-04-11 23:24
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Did you see 2016 FalleN? One of the greatest AWPers of all time, wonderful rifle, wonderful pistol, and a extremely good IGL. CadiaN is a great player but he is not better than FalleN. I don't see how you can look at it differently really.
2021-04-11 23:26
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All I'm saying is that skill wise you need to look at the times,the scene's skill ceiling now is way higher than before for example one of top 5 players(for ex NiKo) now can easily be called better than olof in 2015 even tho olof was top 1 skill wise in 2015.No way am I saying that CadiaN can rival with FalleN but I can see why someone could think that.
2021-04-11 23:41
sh1t argument, you mean.
2021-04-11 23:29
god awper? He threw himself to die first at least 5 times in overtime. Gambit managed to keep grinding all because of his braindead plays. He gambles and gambles everytime
2021-04-11 20:27
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#11
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Mongolia Kkura
But still gets the frags
2021-04-11 20:27
25 replies
No, he did not. His teammates did. Nafany farmed him in pop pretty well. If the good caller and good awper has just gambles to show, heroic will have only short term sucess like 2020.
2021-04-11 20:29
24 replies
he did more than 10 open frags on train, very good performance from him
2021-04-11 20:44
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Yeah now search for his opening deaths. Bro if you push every single round in different places you're going to get big raw opening frags. But the sucess, and for him specially because he is an awper, is what matters.
2021-04-11 20:46
10 replies
best impact on his team on train lul why are you talking? they won the map
2021-04-11 20:47
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They won the map because they're a team duh. But Cadian cost them many overtimes that could have been closed in the 2nd because of his stupid plays. Stop brainleslly looking at stats.
2021-04-11 20:48
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i'm not brainlessly looking at stats you tiny brain "he lost them many overtimes" yeah and he won them plenty of rounds too
2021-04-11 20:49
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Yeah, brute force until it works. Godlike player. His team must be glad that they spent 2x the energy they would need to win just because of his stupid plays. Like you could have gotten away with $100, one stupid friend of yours loses the money, but he gives you $50. Well at least you got the money.
2021-04-11 20:54
Yeah, cadian disappeared in overpass. Momentum based and luck =/= Good player
2021-04-11 21:52
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Oh look they won mirage and cadian epic 1v4 ahahaha
2021-04-11 23:01
4 replies
Yeah, insane clutch by him. Still inconsistent and momentum based. No worries though. He appears in the top 20 this year and evidently he is a good player. But consistent results are necessary. But all the hype deserved for that clutch.
2021-04-11 23:13
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Its top level csgo, except for Astralis no team can stay at the pinnacle and destroy the opposition events after events. There are so many teams that can win nowadays.
2021-04-11 23:15
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Heroic can lose all they want. I am talking about cadian specifically. He is a player that pops off. He dropped 27-4 v. Vitality in the grand final last year. But on consistent heroic matches he was outclassed by Stavn. You can never quite remember stavn doing anything as crazy as cadian did last year. But stavn was in the top 20, not cadian.
2021-04-11 23:22
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I would love to be as inconsistent as cadiaN and only outclassed by stavn :D
2021-04-11 23:23
i think it's the very fact that they are willing to take these chances and risks that they can have great success
2021-04-11 20:45
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Like they did in 2020? Peak at two tournament wins and fall down massively after? Structured CS and discipline has proven to be the best way to approach the game time and time again. People just want to see plays.
2021-04-11 20:48
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no like big or like gambit who just started winning t1 tournies like wth mens why cant you just agree for once reply to edit: yes structured cs is the way, and yes people just want to see plays, but isnt that true for most sports?
2021-04-11 20:50
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What the hell are you talking about. I am talking to this guy just right now. And you are talkinga about BIG here as a good example? It strenghts the thesis that momentum runs off duh.
2021-04-11 20:50
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I never said I disagree, am just saying it plays a part as well be it just for a short while but it has its moments
2021-04-11 20:52
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Has it's moments, but's its not a sign of a good player. Consistency is what is. CS fans are just dictated by hype.
2021-04-11 20:55
Structured CS and discipline? not working out for BIG, not working for Astralis anymore, never proved much for MSL. I agree it's important, but CS has changed after the Astralis era, it's mostly decided by who can deliver on the T-sides today... and for that you need the confidence to take the risks... sure, cadiaN died 4 times doing the silly thing.. but the fact that he's willing to do it 4 times can have an effect on the mentality of Gambit
2021-04-11 20:58
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Changed after astralis era? The one which never ended and Astralis ended up winning the most tournaments end ending up as the #1 Team again for the 3th year in a row? You're just looking at short term results while i am telling you it's not sustainable in long term, and saying it's sustainable. No single instance of that was proven correct since 2016 at least. And come on, BIG is more tactical than your average team. But they rely heavily on syrsoN and have pretty weak individuals. I am not talking about firepower v Tactics here. Obviously they need both, i am talking about throwing plays and gambling, and relying on individual plays to win. This is not durable, it gives only short term sucess.
2021-04-11 21:02
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I understand where you come from, I understand you think that because of where you come from. but I believe there's a reason we see the likes of Heroic, Furia and Gambit have immense success
2021-04-11 21:09
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Immense, what are you talking about? This is the first good tournament of heroic in a long while, after they slumped hard after DH open fall. And FURIA never really had any relevant sucess in EU. Their best placement was exactly on this tournament. And i see good things in gambit. It's not just plays, they seem to have a very good, disciplined and good comms cs. On top of having good individual in Axile shiro and even Hobbit. This substance is what is lacking most of the time when one team rises to the top and quickly falls off. Like, BIG, G2, FURIA, Heroic... But even so gambit can still fall off. Consistency is key.
2021-04-11 21:13
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we'll see about that :)
2021-04-11 21:15
still crying...
2021-04-11 23:43
danes and swedes are just the best at this game
2021-04-11 20:26
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#6
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Brazil DirthShadow
2
2021-04-11 20:26
#20
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Sweden wyv0
last time I checked s1mple and zyw0o are the best, also Sweden has been sucking since 2015
2021-04-11 20:29
2 replies
2016*
2021-04-11 21:52
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#153
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Sweden wyv0
Sweden dominated in 2015, they didn't dominate in 2016, they didn't even win a major that year.
2021-04-15 17:58
2015 called and said he wants back his memories.
2021-04-11 20:31
danes yes, swedes no, russians yes, brazilians no
2021-04-11 23:20
2 replies
finns HELL NO! XD
2021-04-12 02:11
1 reply
self explanatory
2021-04-12 16:12
#5
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Brazil DirthShadow
new fallen? fallen 2016? NEVER
2021-04-11 20:26
19 replies
Cadian better tho
2021-04-11 20:27
18 replies
kkkkkkkkkkkkkk nt
2021-04-11 20:28
10 replies
ntnt NA/BR scene cant seem to find them in the final here (or in the last 3 majors)
2021-04-11 20:28
9 replies
We will be back, just wait. But fallen 2016/2017 > all danish awpers
2021-04-11 20:30
8 replies
Device last 5 years >>>>>>> fallen anytime
2021-04-11 20:31
6 replies
ecovice cant flick
2021-04-11 20:32
5 replies
who cars when having 4 majors and beeing the best team in csgo history
2021-04-11 20:33
4 replies
we talking about ecovice x fallen or astralis? lg/sk disband after his 2 major
2021-04-11 20:34
2021-04-11 23:27
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4 vs 2 majors? Being #1 in 2-3 years vs under 1 year? nt tho no, not even not here... just stop and stop crying
2021-04-11 23:28
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FalleN 2 majors, Cardian 0 So, FalleN>Cardian, no? And SK era just has 2 top1, 1 graffiti and imgur.com/a/Pev4N0g Astralis just win 4 majors because SK disbanded
2021-04-11 23:43
i hope youre aware that youll be waiting for tens of years
2021-04-11 23:20
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK 0/8 COMMENT
2021-04-11 21:54
best joke I read here in a looooong time
2021-04-11 23:20
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Just take a look at the last round and come back nt
2021-04-11 23:22
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take a look at 2016 and come back nt 1 year with 2 majors and top2 1 good tournament pick one
2021-04-11 23:23
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Who cars about 2016? Plus we dont just talk "1 good event" take a look at cologne and the final map + dh fall
2021-04-11 23:24
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bro, Heroic deserved that win. Best team in the tournament, of course. But we cannot compare Cadian with Fallen, come on. Dont be stupid.
2021-04-11 23:46
Plus Cadian: ESL 13, Cologne final map + Dh fall Fallen: 2 majors, top 2. Dont be stupid.
2021-04-11 23:48
More like bot allu or god allu
2021-04-11 20:27
i don't think so
2021-04-11 20:27
#10
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Brazil Lostty
CadiaN is a hype machine too nice guy I like him
2021-04-11 20:27
4 replies
Imagine a team of cadian konfig blamef hen1 stew2k all hyped ub boisss
2021-04-11 20:29
3 replies
lucas1 + hen1 = too much hype
2021-04-11 20:36
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#63
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Argentina Ilike
add kng and you will get a team that is qualified to a major but disbands before because they smoke weed all day
2021-04-11 21:53
1 reply
They just sleep too mutch, and the mach starts before the normal
2021-04-11 23:12
#12
koks | 
Yugoslavia al0))
glaive said this nt
2021-04-11 20:27
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Yeah i just saw he said this too.now i m fully ready to replace him as igl in astralis.
2021-04-12 04:47
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#121
koks | 
Yugoslavia al0))
gl
2021-04-12 13:03
CadiaN will never come close to the level Fallen was on AWPing in 2016.
2021-04-11 20:28
From caster to tier1 awper
2021-04-11 20:28
#16
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Russia INNESOR
just lucky again jezzz
2021-04-11 20:28
6 replies
Flag checks out
2021-04-11 20:29
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#24
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Russia INNESOR
was it not visible?
2021-04-11 20:29
4 replies
Yes your flag is visible
2021-04-11 20:31
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#32
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Russia INNESOR
aaah finland no education again
2021-04-11 20:32
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You shouldn’t bring up education while simultaneously using russian flag
2021-04-11 20:43
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#59
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Russia INNESOR
something at the Finnish level of development
2021-04-11 21:50
Cadian very very good, so exited to watch haw he's playing
2021-04-11 20:29
He's going places with his playstyle. Apparently the aggressive is the new meta.
2021-04-11 20:30
#26
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Switzerland Sylleo
is he 2 faced ?
2021-04-11 20:30
Fallen would never miss those
2021-04-11 20:30
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If u would have said forsaken i might believe but fallen too miss shots now.
2021-04-11 20:34
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Even a caster can get positive with the awp So fucking funny
2021-04-11 20:31
#37
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Poland Astoner55
CadiaN is a very smart player and a good IGL. He has never been the best AWPer or IGL, but he was always solid. The online era gave solid players a real chance in tier1, and, as you can see, CadiaN is a great example that more players deserve their chances. He was given enough time to build one of the best teams of 2020, now after 2 roster moves they're back on track in 2021. I was always cheering for him, just as I cheer for every tier2 and tier3 player with potential. Very happy to see him succeed again after a great 2020. I'm also happy for the young guys from Gambit. Very cool final, whoever wins it's deserved and props to them.
2021-04-11 20:34
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+1
2021-04-11 21:54
+1
2021-04-12 04:47
fallen more calm but he also doesn't provide with HYPE like cadian that's why he needed fnx to be successful
2021-04-11 20:46
#45
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Poland Santho
he is so fckin overrated lol 4 fckin kills in T side on BOTH TWO FIRST MAPS COMBINED that's the worst result EVER in CS:GO history
2021-04-11 20:47
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best t side clutch of all time?
2021-04-11 23:20
Yeah, now the hype should've been calmed after overpass.
2021-04-11 21:52
Crazy thing is he's the only one on his team positive over the series, imagine if he didn't miss every other easy shot...
2021-04-11 21:54
1 reply
Trueeeeee
2021-04-12 04:47
no
2021-04-11 23:16
#73
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Russia mrPIVO
No, just online hero with hax. Soon will go back to nothing
2021-04-11 23:17
#91
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Brazil logzera
Today he was on fire, man... he remind me fallen of 2016 today. but only today
2021-04-11 23:27
Cadian bestest and newest Canadian
2021-04-11 23:28
ye just copy what glaive said
2021-04-11 23:28
1 reply
Na i said this way on second map,he said after grand final
2021-04-12 04:43
Maybe cadian is just cadian?
2021-04-11 23:42
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#106
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Denmark Kon10R
+1 Exactly. And Fallen is Fallen. Sooo simple, isn't it?! 😎
2021-04-11 23:45
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not s1mple, FalleN
2021-04-11 23:49
mens, FalleN is rusty but still way better than Canadian wtf u sayin' come to brazil
2021-04-11 23:48
CADIAN WILL NEVER TOUCH THE FEET FROM PROFESSOR
2021-04-11 23:49
1 reply
Hltv professor?
2021-04-13 07:09
#126
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Portugal MufT4r
cheap version of peak fallen dude
2021-04-13 07:21
#128
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Serbia Belgrade
lmao you must be a newfag to suppose cadian is close from repeating fallen's feat
2021-04-13 07:33
yes, he is insane
2021-04-13 13:51
Has Cadian had any majors yet?
2021-04-13 13:55
2021-04-13 13:57
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