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Should Mirage get cadiaN graffiti?
South Africa LustedSilli - HLTV.org 
By now, everyone's seen cadiaN's clutch at ESL Pro League Season 13 to finish off the grand finals. ESL also suggested a cadiaN graffiti to immortalize the moment, tagging in the official CS:GO twitter account. cadiaN graffiti: twitter.com/ESLCS/status/138136754566872.. For all 2 people who might not have seen the clutch: youtube.com/watch?v=d4Z0gc_qVIc In your opinion, should graffiti be added to Mirage to immortalize the clutch? Sure, this wasn't a Major and all that but not taking those details into consideration, is this graffiti-worthy?
2021-04-12 10:44
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Yes not even a question.
2021-04-12 10:45
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NO not even a question.
2021-04-15 13:23
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Australia B_Tannen
No. If ChrisJ doesn’t get one, why does this?
2021-04-12 10:51
54 replies
what should he get the graffiti for?
2021-04-12 10:48
49 replies
the magical ace at esl one new york : youtube.com/watch?v=Mfu9PLkFBPI
2021-04-12 10:51
20 replies
Nah this one is better by rain youtube.com/watch?v=ub82Xb1C8os&ab_chann..
2021-04-12 10:54
18 replies
hahahahaha lol
2021-04-12 10:57
#73
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Portugal migboss
i forgot about this one +1
2021-04-12 13:32
#78
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Denmark BadTakes
ffs
2021-04-12 13:39
thank god an ad played right before it had a chance to play, nt kiddo
2021-04-13 07:51
3 replies
bruh just take the L, like any other normal human
2021-04-13 08:10
2 replies
nt I don’t “take L’s” like you chumps, I’m super cool and awesome
2021-04-13 08:12
1 reply
atleast you think you are! :D
2021-04-14 00:49
xDDDDD nice
2021-04-13 08:10
Ah, this one brings a tear to my eyes :')
2021-04-13 17:58
didnt click but i assume u mean the cache 1v5? would be hard to do tbh
2021-04-13 19:16
1 reply
No it wasnt on cache. You should click the link and check
2021-04-14 00:32
#132
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Ecuador Ageless
still at it I see... 0/8
2021-04-14 00:40
3 replies
Still works 8/8
2021-04-14 00:41
2 replies
#135
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Ecuador Ageless
these kids are dumb tho so it doesnt count -1/8
2021-04-14 00:42
1 reply
Everyone count, event the dumb kids 9/8
2021-04-14 09:19
Oh no😂😂
2021-04-15 09:08
reported 🤬🤬🤬🤬
2021-04-15 10:33
Got me LOL wp
2021-04-19 00:25
5 kills with an AWP vs a p250, no armour, knife kill, wallbang and 2 hp nt bot
2021-04-15 09:00
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Australia B_Tannen
2021-04-12 10:51
26 replies
Its just clutch,amazing but nothing special in it. Cadian had no armor, only p250, knifed a guy in 1v4 surrounded by enemies and won it as the last round. That's fking crazy.
2021-04-12 11:28
12 replies
Gmabit has given up at this point. They know that he had AWP and it was 1v3 so instead just running over him they feeded him one by one
2021-04-12 11:36
3 replies
They gave up? Sh1r0 didn't see him, nafany peeked to distract while interz plant s, Ax1le was already playing post plant. THey did everything right, cadiaN was just better.
2021-04-13 01:37
2 replies
heroic was t, gambit was ct
2021-04-13 19:17
1 reply
it appears that I am totally fucking blind, apologies
2021-04-15 23:47
#42
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Australia B_Tannen
The clutch is more flashy but doesn’t mean it’s better. 1v5 against kato NaVi, much more crucial round too. Heroic were already up like 15-6.
2021-04-12 11:38
6 replies
And? Graffiti is all about flashy, amazing and unusuall situation...
2021-04-12 11:43
5 replies
#55
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Australia B_Tannen
True but if 1v5 or the AWP ace isn't good enough, this isn't in my opinion. I mean, what would the graffiti even be? A knife? The ChrisJ ace was the perfect opportunity to put a wolf with 5 skulls graffiti. ChrisJ, the wolf of wall street.
2021-04-12 12:29
u gotta be brain damaged to think that a boring round as that deserves a graffiti
2021-04-12 12:42
3 replies
Cadians clutch is far from boring lmao
2021-04-12 13:16
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North America 007DBR9
cry is free cis n00b
2021-04-12 13:26
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Norway MarsPi
yeah right, that was the most boring round I have ever seen.... dictionary.com/e/wp-content/uploads/2019..
2021-04-12 13:38
>No armor Who cars,it didn't give any affect + he had AWP >Knifed a ct's back:Wow,graffiti achievement!!!!!!! >Surrounded Nobody was in his back,he wasn't surrounded,he would able to go to connector any time.I don't think possibility to go somewhere is called surrounded Plz,stop overhype this moment.Its not best and it doesn't deserve a graffiti
2021-04-13 08:25
Not better And On tier 6 event
2021-04-12 11:36
2 replies
#44
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Australia B_Tannen
Flashy doesn’t equal good. This play was better from Chris and more crucial. Heroic were already up 15-6, doesn’t matter the event this was vs 2020 Kato NaVi on LAN. It’s good obviously but not better
2021-04-12 11:41
#131
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United Kingdom novaseer
> tier 6 event literally esl pro league, one of the most prestigious tournaments
2021-04-14 00:40
#61
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Denmark psntsn89
Don't see why any of the ChrisJ clips are better... It's "just" an awp ace where they get to 15, which you one of your complaints on Cadian btw. Cadian WON the tournament, with a slightly bigger round gap. AND he did it with much less equiptment and much lower odds of him actually doing it. Same goes for the 1v5, sure it's a 1v5 but in 3rd map in a bo5 where both teams won a map before that, so you're not gaining any points on saying "Heroic is already up 15-6" So was Mouz in ChrisJ ace, and Mouz vs Na'Vi is not really as relavant since it's not map nor series defining. Sure Heroic would have won mirage anyway, but closing it out in such fasion is just insane. Many of the arguments I've seen on other threads are much easier to repeat, same goes for both of your ChrisJ moments (if repeatablility is accounted for). I haven't seen a clutch like Cadians in a very long time, I think the most memorable to me (in this caliber) is the 0v5 bomb winning explosion in a G2 vs Astralis, where G2 forgot the bomb and thus lost the map.
2021-04-12 12:49
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#84
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Australia B_Tannen
That ace was play of the year. So we’ll see which people remember more. Anyway, what graffiti would Cadian get? The awp ace had a perfect chance, Wolf with 5 skulls for the wolf of Wall Street chrisJ.
2021-04-12 14:03
15 6 score, simple shots and 1 wallbang, wow insane!!! then why guardian,niko,rain,cold 1v5 clutches, that is much better than this, doesnt get graffiti?
2021-04-13 08:02
5 replies
#113
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Denmark psntsn89
Don't know, haven't seen them/don't remember. I don't remember every single play since there's to many, this is recent and an insane play. The other clips I've watched from this thread and others haven't been as good. But you underestimate Cadians play I feel like, 2 hp with only a p250 to start with. Knife kill, 2 wallbangs vs 4 FULLY ARMOURED CTS, whose btw is holding the bomb and the entire site. Cadian found the perfect timing, walked up and knifed awper in the back. He was lucky the gun fell in front of him and not into sandwich.
2021-04-13 12:58
4 replies
who cares about p250 if he didnt use it?
2021-04-13 17:43
3 replies
#120
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Denmark psntsn89
Ok then it's still a knife kill in a 4v1 with no chance of winning.
2021-04-13 19:10
2 replies
kill from back
2021-04-13 19:11
1 reply
#128
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Denmark psntsn89
Exactly thats great timing catching 4 cts guarding the dropped bomb off guard.
2021-04-13 20:02
to be fair tho, that round that chrisj aced on was a must win round for liquid for them to have any chance in getting back into the series, and in that round, mouz still were in huge disadvantage in terms of numbers and positions, but chris managed to pull that off and that basically won mouz the series
2021-04-15 08:45
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#175
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Denmark psntsn89
Yes for Liquid, same goes for Gambit. Mouz were up 14-8, Heroic 15-6 so almost same scoreline, both losing teams need to win that round to try to win/tie. Difference is that Mouz had money to buy that round. Heroic were on a save buy so they could buy next round. If he had lost that round Heroic would most likely win anyway, same goes for Mouz.
2021-04-15 13:20
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Ukraine alexftw
1v5 clutch on train
2021-04-12 10:55
0/8
2021-04-12 11:22
1 reply
#45
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Australia B_Tannen
Wow you got me there. Case closed I guess.
2021-04-12 11:41
#79
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France poulpup
+1
2021-04-12 13:40
+1 ChrisJ deserved it
2021-04-14 00:44
no
2021-04-12 10:46
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Russia Syonamaru
Yea, lmao
2021-04-12 10:46
No
2021-04-12 10:46
its not a major....valve only puts graffiti if plays like these are made in like the major i think
2021-04-12 10:47
4 replies
And cadian shouldnt get one when device doesnt get one one train
2021-04-12 10:57
3 replies
yes true
2021-04-12 11:16
+1
2021-04-12 12:55
ChrisJ for graffiti btw fuck cadiaNs play
2021-04-14 00:51
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Lithuania marusgg
1. Knife kill 2. low hp 3. vs #1 team 4. wallbangs but since this was not a major - no
2021-04-12 10:47
3 replies
5. Tournament winning round
2021-04-12 12:23
1 reply
but since this was not a major - no
2021-04-12 13:26
#81
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France poulpup
#1 team doesn't mean much rn that being said the clutch was pretty hype
2021-04-12 13:43
A great piece of cs history, but to me you should only have graffitis when it's at a Major And especially not during an online event Otherwise you will have many graffiti requests In that case we should have got a Snax graffiti in cobble further to ESL NY 2016
2021-04-12 10:49
2 replies
Yes, or why not the Ace + 1v4 clutch from ZywOo with the p250 against Na'Vi on the pistol ? More hard skillwise imo
2021-04-12 11:48
1 reply
+1
2021-04-13 08:04
Its not fckin major, he wont get graffiti and deal with it
2021-04-12 10:47
1 reply
the guy is just asking for people's opinions why so much hostility
2021-04-15 08:49
Yes,we need a grafitti from online era since theres no majors
2021-04-12 10:47
2 replies
#83
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France poulpup
everyone has the opposite reasoning online event aren't worth a tenth of a major
2021-04-12 13:46
1 reply
+1
2021-04-14 00:52
memorable clutch, definitely should have a graffiti
2021-04-12 10:47
online era, not major, valve doesnt care so, no
2021-04-12 10:48
1 reply
Volvo go brr with money
2021-04-12 14:06
No, Grafittis are Majors and Majors only, otherwise it'll become a slippery slope and soon ppl will demand graffitis from t2 events, t3 events and so on
2021-04-12 10:54
a graffiti is okay , but not the one on the picture. They never put a player's face on it.
2021-04-12 10:55
graffiti only on major, but i think he should get something like a very small knife sticker on stairs
2021-04-12 10:56
1 reply
I like that idea :)
2021-04-12 11:16
+1 yes he deserves it
2021-04-12 10:56
actually no 1) that wasnt major 2) that was online
2021-04-12 10:57
off corse not ,why do young people get emotional so easy?
2021-04-12 10:59
2 replies
literally what
2021-04-15 08:50
1 reply
a good move and already deserves graffiti, pay attention to the phrase bro
2021-04-19 00:11
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Estonia thisba!tes
Yes!
2021-04-12 11:00
Why is this even a question no. If they would give him a grafitti so many other plays deserve a grafitti aswell and it would just make everything unfair
2021-04-12 11:01
No . If it was at Lan then yes but not online.
2021-04-12 11:04
2 replies
So if this was a LAN + Major then definitely?
2021-04-12 11:16
1 reply
Yes I don't believe online finals deserve a graffiti
2021-04-12 11:24
This definitely should be immortalized in some way, doesn't necessarily have to be graffiti.
2021-04-12 11:18
graffitis are only for plays in majors
2021-04-12 11:23
It’s crazy good but: Volvo clearly doesn’t do them anymore It’s online It’s not a major
2021-04-12 11:24
I believe certain rules shouldn't be broken. We see epic moments in many different games, but their significance can't be compared to the epic plays made at a Major, held on LAN, in front of huge crowds, and at the most important stages, in totally unexpected ways. So no, this shouldn't get graffiti. But, coming back to your question, I believe yes, it is a graffiti-worthy play, but if done in the specified situation.
2021-04-12 11:24
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#180
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United States PP_Bizon
+1
2021-04-15 13:26
yes
2021-04-12 11:32
No.
2021-04-12 11:39
no major no graffiti If this wasn't the case, we might have to put a grafitteh on every corner of every map. Valve even acknowledged the sanctity of the graffitte by not putting in any from the crap majors like Berlin and London. Could you imagine that device had a graffiti for holding an angle for 2 hours? No thanks!
2021-04-12 11:44
onliner and cheating
2021-04-12 11:46
#49
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Czech Republic Iram
no, dont see a reason why good clutch but not a grafitti worthy
2021-04-12 11:47
no lan no major no party no grafitti simple as that
2021-04-12 12:19
#53
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Russia VelsVivard
Of course no, it only had like one kill worthy of a highlight, somewhat. You're not gonna have a graffiti commemorating the Gambit's slowpoke play in that round.
2021-04-12 12:24
No. The play was nowhere near worthy of a graffiti and they are given only in the majors.
2021-04-12 12:25
Yes, put a kappa face on mirage's stairs.
2021-04-12 12:33
no not a major also look at baiter noob sh0r0 knifed
2021-04-12 12:38
1 reply
#71
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North America 007DBR9
kkkkkkkk
2021-04-12 13:30
No. chrisJ did the same in ESL One NYC
2021-04-12 12:39
5 replies
#68
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Europe RiflerDash
yeah except ChrisJ had an awp and armor, nades and was in a way better positon to pull it off and Sunny was still alive after the clutch meaning there wasn't as much pressure on Chris as there was on CadiaN. Chris also did not get a knife kill against the enemy's best player or hit 2 wallbangs on the same person.
2021-04-12 13:24
4 replies
He went for a knife kill, they were up 15-6, he had way less pressure
2021-04-12 13:32
3 replies
#77
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Europe RiflerDash
Mouse were up 14-8 against liquid who are pretty much known for choking anyways. (Especially back then) Gambit have Shiro who is now a shared record holder with S1mple for most clutches in a tournament at 21. Ax1ale who had been *one of* the best players throughout the entire tournament. Gambit also had a combined rating of 1.16 compared to heroics 1.09 Meaning Gambit was on paper gonna win the entire thing. While Liquid weren't even in their prime in 2016 when they faced mouse.
2021-04-12 13:39
2 replies
I didnt mention anything about mouse, i just said that being 15-6 up is not a pressure situation. No matter how good ur stats are, doing a 15-6 comeback is unlikely
2021-04-12 16:28
There's always a chance for a turnaround and this was at the end of a marathon grand finals
2021-04-13 07:41
#60
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Germany F0kussi3rt
Y E S
2021-04-12 12:45
but Guardian 2018 major ace was better that this .... and zywoo ace better that this ... and there is a lot of clutches better that this one in my opinion he got the clip because gambit made a mistake .... cadian not op but gambit was weak in this position and 5 vs 1 Guardian clutch vs fnatic in overpass did not get graffiti ...
2021-04-12 12:58
No, only if it happens on lan AND in a major.
2021-04-12 12:57
i thought they only do it on RMR
2021-04-12 13:19
#67
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Europe RiflerDash
since we haven't had a major since 2019 i think we should give cadian a graffiti. It'd also be nice to have to remember back to "those days where we didn't have majors or any lan events yet amazing plays still happened."
2021-04-12 13:21
No major, no lan, so NO
2021-04-12 13:31
the play isn't that great when u think about the fact that the enemy team all have their back turned towards him, kinda just lack of awareness of Gambit rather than great play from cadiaN, but the graffiti is pretty funny, happy cadiaN face with a knife lol
2021-04-12 13:37
no major, no graffiti
2021-04-12 13:40
S1mple got one for 2 random lucky no scopes. Coldzera got one for retarded jumping no scopes Cadian should defo get one for doing something that was actually smart and not 95% luck.
2021-04-12 13:45
1 reply
#94
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United States xcalibot
Wait you forgot something, THEY WERE PLAYING ON A MAJOR. Oh my god is it very hard to swallow the fact that you can only get graffiti on a major?
2021-04-13 07:53
no
2021-04-13 07:49
No, why?
2021-04-13 07:49
No, not a major /closed
2021-04-13 08:04
1 reply
+1
2021-04-13 08:13
Then give Dev1ce his 3k 1hp train bday clutch graffiti
2021-04-13 08:14
no, not major or lan
2021-04-13 08:16
No,it wasn't Lan, was over internet,no hype,no crowds. Short answer,no, doesn't deserve it
2021-04-13 08:19
idc if they add the grafittior not for cadian play, but that watermark-face-picture better not be there, what is that shit, add something artistic not a human face
2021-04-13 08:24
2 replies
it's a joke obv. Don't u see ESL posts? They've hired some meme guy
2021-04-13 08:30
1 reply
okay then
2021-04-15 19:26
No,it doesn't deserve
2021-04-13 08:26
#109
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Switzerland nierg
Valve should finally release a statement that graffitis are only for majors. Then we wouldnt have this discussion every time a decent play comes around.
2021-04-13 08:29
twitter.com/CSGO/status/1381449640445272.. Csgo even acknowledged it 🤔
2021-04-13 08:33
yes
2021-04-13 08:38
well it's pretty memorable and the wall next to sandwich looks kind of empty...
2021-04-13 13:27
No, is not a Major.
2021-04-13 17:43
#117
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Portugal Gcaos2003
it would be cool but mirage already has 1 grafiti so...
2021-04-13 17:44
#118
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Brazil brasiI
this just gave me goosebumps
2021-04-13 17:52
should be bigger
2021-04-13 19:11
#123
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United States ekwi
no! only majors counts XDD
2021-04-13 19:13
No online event should ever have graphiti
2021-04-13 19:17
1 reply
#141
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Norway BijeaN
+1
2021-04-14 00:46
the fact it was 15-6 and not a major makes me think defiantly not even if it was a good play, if it was 15-14 or something it'd be abit more exciting
2021-04-13 19:19
1 reply
maybe
2021-04-14 00:43
#130
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
no.
2021-04-14 00:37
#134
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United States PP_Bizon
Cool moment, sick play. But it shouldn't be a graffiti, it just won't be iconic enough and valve won't care enough.
2021-04-14 00:41
If cadian gets a graffitti i stop playing mirage
2021-04-14 00:42
nah it was a mm level lucky play
2021-04-14 00:43
#140
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Norway BijeaN
No.
2021-04-14 00:45
maybe if mirage gets an "update" like inferno did they put in a homage to him a bit like there are lil homages on banana for friberg
2021-04-14 00:47
not a major
2021-04-14 00:49
#145
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Italy steven513
No
2021-04-14 00:50
no, not for a mediocre awp abuse play.
2021-04-14 00:57
They're only for Majors
2021-04-14 00:57
#150
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Argentina Caitofaze
a knife / 4 dolls painted on the mirage wall.
2021-04-14 01:07
are you fking kidding me that you want a graffit of CADIAN OMEGALUL against GAMBIT OMEGALUL in a ONLINE CSGO MATCH OMEGALUL
2021-04-14 01:10
3 replies
gambit are better than lg/sk ever were though
2021-04-14 01:13
2 replies
yea those onliners piece of trashes are better than prime astralis too in your desilusional otaku estonian brain
2021-04-14 01:18
1 reply
well yeah astralis would be a different story, but comparing astralis and lg/sk is like comparing gambit to xset, just not a fair matchup
2021-04-14 01:22
#153
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Brazil yakd
No he shouldnt, its one of the best clutches out there but it wasnt a major. Plenty of grafitti worthy plays have been made. It should be keept that way. Majors are still in a different caliber than epl, if they want to honor his play make a grafitti item for him, maybe a sticker or a skin
2021-04-14 01:16
nah because it isnt a major
2021-04-15 08:41
i understand if some people reject the graffiti idea on the grounds of the event not being a major, but rating snax pistol 1v4, device pistol 1v3, chrisj awp ace etc ABOVE cadian is blowing my mind. imo you have to be a silver to not understand how fucking difficult it is to clutch a no armor pistol eco 1v4 against full buy. not to mention in what fashion he got the kills.
2021-04-15 09:05
6 replies
Snax was clearly better . It is so easy to clutch with AWP
2021-04-15 09:07
5 replies
nah. seen plenty of 1vX pistol clutches especially on ct side. on t side it's more impressive. eco 1v4's tho haven't seen many.
2021-04-15 09:08
4 replies
What eco? He knifed a AWPer not looking at him and used his AWP. Stop behaving like he clutched it with glawwwk.
2021-04-15 09:09
3 replies
yeah just p250 and a decoy, no armor. you know this. why you acting like you don't know it's eco?
2021-04-15 09:10
2 replies
He got an AWP after an easy kill. Words doesnt matter. You can call it eco but at the end he used AWP to kill 3 people
2021-04-15 09:13
1 reply
he made it look easy
2021-04-15 09:26
#164
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Czech Republic BlastTM
Yes, if it would been in a major, i don't think it will be added, but if yes, it is deserved.
2021-04-15 09:06
Mirage should get yeeted from the mappool is what should happen
2021-04-15 09:11
no doupt it was a godlike play by him but it doesn"t make sense to create a graffiti...its not fair for other players that have done amazing clutches too...with that logic a chrisj graffiti must be created on B bombsite on train ( 1 vs 5 against navi )...also a graffiti for NiKo on A bombsite on cache ( 1 vs 5 against titan with only a deagle ) and many many more examples
2021-04-15 11:51
ofc not only LAn plays deserve graffitis
2021-04-15 13:22
Graffiti for an online performance? And not a mayor..
2021-04-15 13:23
lol no wtf
2021-04-15 13:24
not a major : no graffiti
2021-04-15 13:28
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