I have seen teams like SK/LG and VP smash everyone so i dont know
Respect to take such a dangerous bait. Your gonna have your head on danish pitchforks soon
they're losing because of KARMA for not playing Bubzkji and treating him like TRASH!!!
Age might be one of the factors,yeah
I think they just dont have motivation, especially in this online era they just dont care as much, dont have the same drive that they had
they're not losing because of aim and reaction time, but their tactics are failing to work. we would never see astralis getting flanked, players being shot from the sides and now it's happening way more than it should.
something is off on their tactics or call outs
they dont win anymore because their strategies that made them top 1 are actually outdated and copied by others teams
astralis was always pulling ahead because of insane tactics and utlity usage
rarely ever because sick individual aimers (even tho they had those from time to time too)
26 isn't even old though dude you're acting like they are 30 years old lmao.
Magisk Xyp gla1ve dropped in performance due to breaks and magisk being igl for a bit didnt help him
They are old but I think the real problem is that they have moved on in life. Mini Gla1ve will be born soon and the other guys also have to think about their futures. Sad but that is how esports goes
I don't believe in the idea that you can't be elite in your late 20's or even your 30's. I think for a lot of pros the reason they get worse and eventually washed when they get older isn't because they're physically incapable and don't have the reaction speed. The game just passes them by and they don't adapt over time. f0rest is still a really good player and he's 32 years old. The old polish VP roster was playing well in to their 30's making deep major runs. Hobbit and cadiaN are considered pretty old by esports standards and they played integral parts in getting Heroic and Gambit to the finals of the most recent tier 1 event. dupreeh is the only Astralis member over 25 years old. They're not even old.
i think that they are demotivated, they love crowds and it's not the same thing. You can see their faces, they don't look happy when winning a match, they don't even look that mad when losing, rn they don't have the fire that they had in early 2020, 2019 or 2018. Shit, even mid and late 2020 when they started to win everything
i mean the Core of Astralis have been together for 4.5 years in Csgo that is a very long time they have won 4 Majors together over that time and heaps of other trophies it might be they are just getting old
No this not directly because of age. No one can stay at the top forever playing a game 8 hours a day, mental exhaustion is there after a while, they've had 2 players taking burnout breaks, and more importantly it's hard to keep motivation, maybe even more right now with the online era.
These guys have won all the biggest trophies and they now have to fight for some online trophies, which is still great but far from what it used to be.
And indirectly, age brings stuff like children, family life, etc which is not the best environment to keep progressing on a game.
And also you have opponents figuring out your strats more and more over the years, constantly having to adapt to the game, etc
They're still among the very top teams though, I'd stay they managed to stay at the top pretty well up until now, we'll see how it goes in the upcoming weeks but they're not crumbling.
I'd be sick of playing too if the last major was nearly 2 years ago at this point and there's still no LAN. Sure there is more on the line but online games have to feel near meaningless after this long. Its like e-dating vs IRL dating. Sure the first is alright but after awhile its like yeah this is boring and Im not feeling it.
nope, old astralis was godlike on nuke and inferno
now they are dog shite at nuke and average at inferno
they play online and the level of online cs is better than at LAN, so the yolo stats work better and mechanical skill is more important
No, they are not that old. The cause is a mix of things.
1. As time goes by, new talent arises (Gambit, VP, Heroic, etc) that have hunger for winning. The bigger the competition, the harder it is to maintain the top spot.
2. Staying at the top means everyone studies you and learn how to counter you.
3. Player Consistency. Not every player is like device that can maintain personal consistency. The individual level of some players appears to have fallen off, namely xyp9x and gla1ve when it comes to Astralis. And most notably recently, Magisk.
4. The current situation (the pandemic) has forced all TOs to host every tourney online. LAN is very different from online gameplay. Everyone can perform online where every player plays from the comfort of their home. On LAN, players have to endure the pressure of having to play in front of a crowd with over 10000 people. In that scenario, veterans usually trump over newcomers. In addition, this online era has lead to a certain loss of motivation for those veterans because for those players that have won huge trophies in front of large crowds, winning events (even if big) might feel small scale for them. Last year in an interview, dupreeh said that it was tough to keep the motivation under these circumstances.
All of this goes in line with the top 3 teams of 2020 having severely decayed during the first 3 months of 2021.
I think just saving strats for major
i dont think age matter at all, vitality was crushing everybody with 25.5 avg player age
G2 avg age 26
boomer team lol
You all have some good points, and as a fan of the team I can see that they are lacking something right now. Mostly in the last matches that they lost, their facial expressions is showing, I am not sure how they are doing out of the game but they need to get their head back into it, if they want to stay in the top 5.
Sometimes they struggle in a real way, and that worries me a bit really. I am certain they will find solutions in the long run and stay consistent in the upper echelons of CS for they years to come, and when age do become a challenge, I expect them to make a smooth translation to a new generation.
But during this era of online, it has also been interesting to follow many of the newer teams making case for themselves and also all the rooster changes that too has been happening. So as fan of counter-strike, I am wholly satisfied with what I have been getting, the quality of the shows that has been provided for us has been outstanding honestly. From when I started following the scene a few years ago until now, major improvements in the broadcast quality/casters and the productions.
Thanks for that :)
Their age was still older when they dominated. Def not the reason. You just can't expect someone to perform at their best 100% of the time.
Losing because of motivation, they're not practicing as much as they used to
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prob. outburned ,no motivation and pressure. Maybe aim also sometimes you have those days you can't hit shit and some days you're a god happens for everyone tho.
They're probably 2 years older than the average... age isn't that big of a factor... their individual skill level is just lower than everyone elses and their tactics/map pool are garbage.