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Xyp9x career over?
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United States Vespurrr 
Based on device interview, it seems like Astralis is interested in es3tag or Bubzkji again since the team isn't performing. Obviously Xyp9x is their worst player in terms of ratings and is on the chopping block. Will we really see the career of such a legend, 4 time major champions, MVP at IEM Katowice 2017, and two times top 20 players, Mr. Clutch Minister's career end in such a sad note? Where could he go next?
2021-04-13 11:51
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Finland iBait
Literally any other team in the world
2021-04-13 11:52
11 replies
...wont be willing to pay him the extreme wages he has been paid in astralis
2021-04-13 13:03
10 replies
#49
i am | 
Finland iBait
...but will be willing to pay him more than he gets while benched in astralis
2021-04-13 13:15
9 replies
actuall 0/8 bait
2021-04-13 13:22
7 replies
You know benched salary is lower than active salary
2021-04-13 13:23
3 replies
yeah but astralis players prob make something like 35k-40k per month even when benched prob like 20k there is not many teams who are willing to pay that much for him
2021-04-14 16:34
2 replies
+buyout is prob very high
2021-04-14 16:35
Yeah, and he isn't a player who has a lot of brand value that someone like device would.
2021-04-14 16:40
you are stupid if you think otherwise lol
2021-04-13 18:27
you need to understand 0 means zero and that saying 0/8 means you think it's so stupid that you don't agree with it. I really recommend kindergarten math books as a good starting point.
2021-04-14 11:32
1 reply
what the fuck are you on about mate obiviously he doesn't agree with it if hes calling it a bait do you understand what a bait is?
2021-04-14 15:23
+1 also more interesting to play than to be benched
2021-04-13 19:53
To complexity -rush
2021-04-13 11:52
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#5
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Slovakia DR_GON
Bub instead of RUSH is better
2021-04-13 11:53
5 replies
0/8 rush is support and bub is god awful in support roles
2021-04-13 19:43
4 replies
but xyp isn't active support either like RUSH meanwhile Bubzkji is more aggressive than Xyp he fits into rush roles better than into Xyp's
2021-04-13 19:53
3 replies
bub is still really awful in the support roles, aggressive or not, they would have to do way too much reworking of the roles to make him fit in
2021-04-13 19:57
2 replies
+1i would live to see bubz playing WITH freaking xyp on the server instead of without him
2021-04-13 19:59
1 reply
+1 i'd like to see him in roles that actually make sense for him before completely writing him off. but support roles are not for him, at all.
2021-04-13 21:16
why everybody wanna replace RUSH?
2021-04-13 12:11
22 replies
Because kicking the guy with worse stats is always the solution!
2021-04-13 12:12
3 replies
see, this man knows how hltv works, give him a medal
2021-04-13 18:28
1 reply
most important thing on hltv - 2.0 rating
2021-04-13 20:24
hltv logic in a nutshell
2021-04-14 09:54
They only look at the stats
2021-04-13 12:13
#33
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Indonesia LosD
cuz they just look rating
2021-04-13 12:19
in this case they play the same role and xyp is just better than rush
2021-04-13 13:59
9 replies
#84
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United States Azaqa
0/8 different roles and xyp isnt even better than rush anymore xyp is trash now and rush is playing better than most supports
2021-04-13 17:22
6 replies
And rush even has crazy deagle rounds
2021-04-13 17:24
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#87
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United States Azaqa
+1
2021-04-13 17:24
Rush can fucking do it all. Other members of the team wont have the space they have if it werent for rush. I fuccing love this guy
2021-04-14 09:56
>RUSH >Playing better Pick one
2021-04-13 21:59
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#196
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United States Azaqa
nt russia KEKW silver mindset
2021-04-14 14:39
#208
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Denmark Yikesslol
You don't think RUSH is playing well in coL? This guy glued the team together and is doing work for the team, get outta here fucking nova.
2021-04-14 16:57
not anymore.
2021-04-14 11:36
#207
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Denmark Yikesslol
What are you on about?
2021-04-14 16:56
I mean I rather kick JKS then rush.
2021-04-13 17:24
3 replies
+1
2021-04-13 17:25
-1
2021-04-13 19:39
-1
2021-04-14 09:56
Silvers
2021-04-13 21:09
Because he should go to valorant
2021-04-13 21:59
0/8
2021-04-13 12:17
#40
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Russia Danzo
-refresh +xyp9x
2021-04-13 12:56
6 replies
#57
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Denmark KingDevice
why kick anyone from heroic
2021-04-13 13:34
2 replies
#180
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Portugal PurTu
10 matches win streak ESL Pro League Champions yeah, changing someone from the roster rn sounds about right
2021-04-14 10:06
1 reply
Thinking the same haha
2021-04-14 10:51
removing refrezh after phenomenal gameplay is just sus and makes u look a little rac-...
2021-04-14 10:11
2 replies
#184
shao | 
Russia Danzo
racer?
2021-04-14 10:31
1 reply
yes :) censored
2021-04-14 11:02
#56
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Switzerland Jaksin
0/8
2021-04-13 13:33
rush is entry fraggen xyp9x is a talented support
2021-04-13 19:39
16 replies
K0nfig is entry
2021-04-13 19:40
15 replies
No xD
2021-04-13 19:41
14 replies
Idk I don't even watch cs xD
2021-04-13 19:42
13 replies
watch liquipedia for teams bro
2021-04-13 19:49
12 replies
You can't trust liquipedia roles
2021-04-13 19:50
11 replies
"k0nfing is entry" rush was always the entry thats why his stats are so bad
2021-04-13 19:52
10 replies
2021-04-13 19:54
9 replies
2021-04-13 19:58
8 replies
Ok so k0nfig role is awper understood
2021-04-13 20:00
7 replies
secondary awper yes
2021-04-13 20:02
6 replies
And el1an is igl?
2021-04-13 20:03
5 replies
That was his role months ago. If someone picks up a role It stays there
2021-04-13 20:05
3 replies
It wasn't months ago and that's why you can't just trust liquipedia for current roles
2021-04-14 09:44
2 replies
If someone picks up a role It stays there. The first role was always the main role,and the second role is the secondary role. Not so hard to understand
2021-04-14 11:24
What if el1an is the secondary igl hmm?
2021-04-14 11:24
Its hard to say for a german guy cuz this nationality so serious
2021-04-13 20:04
wtf, rush is very good support player
2021-04-13 19:58
2 replies
+1
2021-04-13 20:51
+111111
2021-04-14 09:56
#4
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Denmark Randomij
Well, they could start using Bubzkji, and see how it works out, might also motivate Xyp9x to perform better
2021-04-13 11:53
They already tried -xyp + bubzkji but it didn't work.....
2021-04-13 11:54
15 replies
Es3tag is the only option i guess they can get him for free
2021-04-13 11:55
10 replies
#16
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Denmark JKTP
Pretty sure he is still under contract with C9
2021-04-13 12:06
4 replies
They gonna probably release him soon. Why would somebody play for bench player 22,5K since it's his half of salary.
2021-04-13 12:10
3 replies
#22
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Denmark JKTP
As long as C9 doesn't file for bankruptcy they have to pay him for his remaning 2.5 years under contract The mans career has already been ruined so sucking out all the rest of the money is an easy path for him.
2021-04-13 12:11
2 replies
There's probably clause where they can release him like they did with woxic. If that will happen astralis will have no regrets getting es3tag back.
2021-04-13 12:12
1 reply
#26
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Denmark JKTP
Only if Es3tag wants to Woxic didn't want the rest of his career on the bench.
2021-04-13 12:12
#17
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Czech Republic JameS_19
Can community finally stop talking about -xyp9x +es3tag? It cant happen, roles are different. Look, when gla1ve comeback to the team, but xyp was still on the break, es3tag couldnt take xyp´s anchor roles, for example B site train was played by gla1ve, because es3tag in not an anchor. so he cant go instead of xyp I think. Also, I think that es3tag´s buyout will be expensive.
2021-04-13 12:08
4 replies
You're right about anchor thing but sometimes there are sacrafices like this Astralis all-role roster actually which worked back at EPL S12
2021-04-13 12:11
es3tag was anchoring on b train, no? I remember him getting many multi kills on ramp.
2021-04-13 19:56
1 reply
#160
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Czech Republic JameS_19
oh sorry, u are right. I rewatched it, and you are right. I remember this "es3tag isnt anchor" from elmapuddy´s video "gla1ve is back, adapting to new role". And he was playing b on train, but it was because they were playing with bubzkji, not with es3tag. so es3tag was playing ramp on nuke, b on train. but still, buyout will be damn expensive.
2021-04-13 21:54
True, C9 will never give up es3tag for cheap and Astralis cant wait forever. Major incoming + other big events. They are screwed with only having bubzkji to play around with....
2021-04-13 20:16
he played 10 maps . maybe try to commit and play 100 ?
2021-04-13 11:56
its stupid trying him to fit into xyp roles...
2021-04-13 20:00
2 replies
Well yeah, but what option do they have? Es3tag could be a great support player, but he's under contract with C9.
2021-04-13 20:19
1 reply
I mean bubzkji could be an awesome addition alongside es3tag but not in xyp roles
2021-04-13 20:29
Would be stupid to kick him during the online era, should keep him on the bench.
2021-04-13 11:55
Plz no😞😞😞
2021-04-13 11:56
maybe he can replace rain on faze
2021-04-13 11:56
1 reply
that's gonna fuck over cold and broky even more than karrigan did.
2021-04-13 12:11
They should definitely move players around a bit but kicking him would be a bad move. Let him stay until Lans come, if he doesn't step up... he's free to leave. But then again, I'm not Zonic or Nikolaj.
2021-04-13 11:56
finally back to fnatic if so
2021-04-13 12:04
4 times top 20 player*
2021-04-13 12:06
#19
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Japan Peine
People call him the clutch minister but the real clutch god remain shox
2021-04-13 12:09
1 reply
flusha*
2021-04-14 10:11
-ecovice +es3tag
2021-04-13 12:12
I find it interesting that Astralis could, if the opportunity rises, to change the team more than just 1 player so it doesnt become the sk, nip and faze problem with the 5th man being changed. I think Astralis has a unique opportunity to do this: -xyp9x +bubzkji -magisk +estagg Magisk hasnt played poorly by any means but i just feel like if they had to make room for more changes then i think maybe this would be it. I feel like glave, device and dupreeh compliment each other very well while implementing 2 new players to a 5 man roster.
2021-04-13 12:15
13 replies
Magisk is one of the best players in the world at his role.. Even other players from other teams say that. Sure he has not been doing well, but that can be said for Astralis in general.. Magisk is not one to remove.
2021-04-13 12:39
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I literally said in the text that he "hasnt played poorly by any means". Is is a suggestion to make room to change the mindset and make the roster more fresh. By reading the article that was posted recently you found out that estagg enabled dupreeh to perform better as well. I wouldnt be against that instead of removing Magisk it would be glave or dupreeh, which would mean Magisk take over as igl or remain as is. I just felt the trio of device, glave and dupreeh is more stable for an implementation of 2 new players for the next 5-man roster. If they were to rebuild. I personally dont want to see the 5th man being tossed around like other teams in the past.
2021-04-13 19:38
Actually what I've thought about is this. -gla1ve ( he retires and focuses on his newborn ) + es3tag ( magisk becomes IGL) -xyp9yx +bubs to main roster. Magisk Bubs Device Dupreeh Esetag Won't be God tier like we've seen them before, but could possibly stay a top contender for a long time ( top 5 to 10 team consistently)
2021-04-13 14:24
3 replies
Ye sure this works as well and i can see happening.
2021-04-13 19:30
This is what will happen most probably
2021-04-13 19:32
a) device es3tag dupreeh magisk xyp b) device es3tag dupreeh magisk glaive c) device es3tag dupreeh magisk bubzkji d) device es3tag dupreeh bubzkji glaive
2021-04-13 20:03
a) device es3tag dupreeh magisk xyp b) device es3tag dupreeh magisk glaive c) device es3tag dupreeh magisk bubzkji d) device es3tag dupreeh bubzkji glaive
2021-04-13 20:06
2 replies
Any of them except for option A. I would prefer C or D.
2021-04-13 20:22
they get a title with B
2021-04-13 21:07
#186
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Denmark kraesen
in that case it would be -xyp9x for es3tag, and -magisk for bubzkji not opposit
2021-04-14 10:55
3 replies
well yes this is what it would be if you were to slot them in like that role wise.
2021-04-14 12:38
2 replies
#195
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Denmark kraesen
yeah either they wait for next lan/the major, with the orginial five and hope they are better on lan. Or they make changes soon
2021-04-14 14:38
1 reply
Ye i think they have a difficult decision to make here. If it werent for the possibility of a major coming up then i think they would have already made changes.
2021-04-14 16:33
yep
2021-04-13 12:18
nah hes been on the FPL grind hes good fam
2021-04-13 12:22
Only if he wants it. Its up to him, he is one of the best and most respected players of all time. Even if he leaves Astralis, like is a normal thing, teams change in sport, its needed to grow. He can get an other team if he wants. But maybe he would like to do something else. maybe take on a different role in Astralis, talent work. coach of some kind. Point is, its 100% up to Xyp himself.
2021-04-13 12:38
hes been top 20 4 time right?
2021-04-13 12:38
I guess he's gonna take a position in Astralis behind the scenes, why are all you 14 y/o dumb fucks straight up saying it's over, clownfietsa on HLTV nowadays.
2021-04-13 12:42
1 reply
doesnt he have a lot of shit to say about the org? like rumors they do not get along with management
2021-04-13 19:05
#41
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Poland f3nce
i'm gonna miss him so much D:
2021-04-13 12:59
he can definitely find a spot in a top 10-15 team
2021-04-13 13:13
Sad news, but may be he will get more motivation after going to bench, lets hope.
2021-04-13 13:25
don't be stupid. he'll be a great addition to a lot of top teams.
2021-04-13 13:29
#72
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France PqSxd
-Lucas1 +Xypx9 O Plano ez top1
2021-04-13 13:59
2 replies
#127
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Brazil angryyyy
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-04-13 20:01
1 reply
#199
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France PqSxd
you can laugh little brazilian
2021-04-14 16:03
That's what we all said about GeT_RiGhT
2021-04-13 14:01
He doesnt need to retire. His stonks are still very high imo. Should have plenty of decent offers then :)
2021-04-13 14:08
#89
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United Kingdom pookis
Mcdonalds
2021-04-13 17:26
why would it end based on poor performance on online shitty era ? LMAO
2021-04-13 19:39
2 replies
Kind of agree here. Most of their losses in the past were online so nothing new here, but their lack of individual performance is visible.
2021-04-13 20:18
1 reply
win 4 majors to kick him because online era lul
2021-04-13 20:19
Two times ahahaha.
2021-04-13 19:42
"Will we really see the career of such a legend, end in such a sad note?" well the possibility exists. sure. why "shouldn't" it? I mean there is such thing as retiring on time. some players decay sooner, others later. some more abruptly, some less. this roster laster how many years, come on. it's nature at work. they won't stay at the top forever, there IS a limit, there IS a last day, and that day just might be soon.
2021-04-13 19:44
i dont think roster changes will make astralis play better, they were special because they were motivated and passionate even after winning everything they could some chess world champion once said being the best isnt a good feeling because you can only go down and have nothing to gain, I think majors were what kept them going and since they are gone they lost motivation also 1 new player will never ignite the fire in the 4 others
2021-04-13 19:50
clickbait title, reported
2021-04-13 20:04
this doesn't make sense at all. I agree that Xyp is underperforming but I could say that about gla1ve, magisk and even dupreeh sometimes. Their struggle comes mostly in individual performance, 1v1 duels, and trading at all. Somehow even the communication doesn't go well.
2021-04-13 20:16
TBH I don't think Xyp is the problem, he had bad performance sometimes and has been a bottom fragger sometimes but he is a good support player and also saved the team many times, too. Winning clutches is good but it kinda depends on luck. Astralis should work harder on their communication and co-operation. There are so many mistakes that should not have happened in Dust2. It is not fair to ascribe all failures to Xyp9x, who actually have a similar rating with dupreeh today. Making 1 to 2 roster changes has no help for current inconsistent Astralis.
2021-04-13 20:25
#149
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Canada roylin
work at lab cure covid19 and destroy everyone at lan
2021-04-13 20:57
I don’t think so. Bubz aggressive playstyle doesn’t fit into Xyp passive support roles which include holding for ct aggression on t side and being an anchor trying to stay alive as long as possible on ct side. For those who suggest bringing back es3tag: He has been underperforming since joining cloud9, so it’s not guaranteed that he will perform at the level when he was in astralis last year. He recently became main AWPer before cloud9 disbanded. When he was in astralis: hltv.org/stats/players/8611/es3tag?start.. After joining cloud9 in 2020: hltv.org/stats/players/8611/es3tag?start.. 2021 before he became main AWPer: hltv.org/stats/players/8611/es3tag?start.. 2021 after he became main AWPer: hltv.org/stats/players/8611/es3tag?start..
2021-04-13 21:05
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#157
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France Haibara
EXACTLY!!! If he can't perform in Cloud9, he can't perform in Astralis
2021-04-13 21:23
the greatest support player of all time has to get booted now because of the online era full of nutty boys who will choke like a dog on lan; the exact type of player that he outbrains on big tourneys all day long. sad way to go
2021-04-13 21:22
Xyp9x will join COL or new aizy team or new cajunb team or OG or flusha team or heroic orrrrr dignitas orrr apeks orrrrrrrr NIP orrrrrr yeah.
2021-04-13 21:21
#156
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France Haibara
Bye bye Xyp9x Online ruins careeer
2021-04-13 21:23
#158
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Russia Rapu
Yesterday I watched FPL games and Xyp9x looked very good - he is calm, makes good decisions in clutches, makes good calls. So he can easily find a team if he wants to.
2021-04-13 21:28
he'll go to the home of retired pros - VALULRANT
2021-04-13 21:33
es3tag would be a solid support player. wouldn't be surprised if he came back.
2021-04-13 21:55
1 reply
i mean xyp9x was clutch minister(when needed) so maybe es3tag is fragging minister(when needed).
2021-04-13 23:35
hes washed up, might aswell just join dignitas lol
2021-04-13 22:01
i would say put Bubzkji in as he's already in the Org instead of having to buy out a very expensive contract
2021-04-13 23:51
would be sad to see him go since Xyp, Dev1ce, and Dupreeh have been playing together since the beginning of global offensive.
2021-04-14 01:25
Xyp9x to Isurus Gaming clearly
2021-04-14 01:31
#173
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United States julianwb
stop sucking his dick
2021-04-14 09:49
imo just wait until the end of the year. let's see if their form comes back. Navi in 2020 lost to fuccing t2 and t3 cis teams and came back at the end of the year albeit not winning many of the tournaments but reaching very very deep in them (finals)
2021-04-14 10:02
Even friberg is still playing, so i guess xyp will find a new home. Probably gonna be some international roster.
2021-04-14 10:10
#193
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Australia Caveman_
Honestly I think Xyp9x has had a good career, 4 majors, 3 are back to back, been given a name to him by the community, one of the most famous and high earning players in Csgo, seeing him retire is just matter of time in my opinion.
2021-04-14 12:01
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#197
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France Haibara
Bye bye xyp9x The next get_rught
2021-04-14 15:20
#200
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Portugal cyn1cal
Xyp has low stats because xyp does the dirty work.
2021-04-14 16:07
#204
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United States ekwi
xypnix to liquid! replace grim
2021-04-14 16:35
When a player only known for clutching can no longer clutch... Full respect to the guy, but IMO kicking xyp9x would be better for the team, as well as for the player himself...
2021-04-14 16:53
#209
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France Haibara
Good bye legend
2021-04-19 23:53
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