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France homer1337 
Wrong
2021-04-13 14:22
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ikr hes averagin 14.8 kills per map last 3 months
2021-04-13 14:24
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kills per map? what kind of shitty stat is that?
2021-04-13 15:24
49 replies
Probably the best single stat when it comes to invidual performance.
2021-04-13 15:26
34 replies
xDD wtf would you consider 25 kills per map better than 20 kills per map?
2021-04-13 15:27
30 replies
Obiviously?
2021-04-13 15:28
25 replies
Here come the plot twist. 25 kills per map, when you play 30 rounds -> 0.83 kills per round 20 kills per map, when you play 20 rounds -> 1 kill per round Why is 25 considered better?
2021-04-13 15:29
24 replies
after he answers, you say that? its the same as asking , do you prefer to sit on a cake or sit on a chair? but after he answers you say "but on the chair , theres a dildo that you have to sit on" LUL
2021-04-13 15:31
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#90
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Finland Nollegee
+1
2021-04-13 15:33
nope your analogy is actual trash I used his point of kills per map and showed that the stat is flawed not by changing the stat, but providing an example/case.
2021-04-13 15:34
11 replies
You only started talking about kdr on your second statement , ask all of the questions from the begging instead of trying to bait someone to look smart. Ofc KDR , and Impact , are way more important than avg kills.
2021-04-13 15:36
9 replies
True, could've done it differently. Think this was sufficient enough though, I don't need to explain my whole argument when I can show that his sucks with 4 sentences. Glad we agree then.
2021-04-13 15:41
4 replies
hes right
2021-04-13 17:41
#151
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Poland Ryunar
hes right
2021-04-13 18:26
you are right
2021-04-13 20:17
you are the rightest, expected from german IQ
2021-04-14 07:19
#126
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United States Azaqa
Kills per round and overall KDR and impact all better stats than kills per map KEKW
2021-04-13 16:36
3 replies
Thats what i said , read again lmao
2021-04-13 16:41
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#141
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United States Azaqa
you didnt mention kpr though.. but replied to wrong person anyways
2021-04-13 17:19
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"Ofc KDR , and Impact , are way more important than avg kills." thats what i said, xd but ok , you replied to the wrong person
2021-04-13 20:34
Your use of the stat was flawed.
2021-04-13 17:25
What a garbage analogy...
2021-04-13 15:42
#114
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North America 007DBR9
top 10 most braindead analogys #1 this
2021-04-13 15:51
+1
2021-04-13 16:42
But then you sit on a dildo, not chair.
2021-04-13 19:00
0/8
2021-04-13 19:14
you baited him good respect
2021-04-13 15:31
I was wondering the same thing aha surely Kills Per Round (KPR) is a better stat to go with
2021-04-13 15:31
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#103
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Finland DTeeVee
But is kills per map a 'shitty' stat?
2021-04-13 15:43
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Yes if a game is 16-0 then youre not gonna have as many kills as if it goes into over time. Also when displaying kills per map imagine if you have a position on CT side where they just ignore you and try to play different sites ect its gonna ruin the stat. Kills per round is better but even that needs context
2021-04-13 15:54
You showed why average kills per map does not work when comparing players performance in two single maps played. This is correct as the KPM (kills per map) stats can't be used for this purpose. It only works when taking multiple maps and counting the average value from those maps. This is why the original discussion was about "averaging kills per map". FUTHER DISCUSSION OF THE KPM STAT: 1. Correct use of the KPM stat (as opposed to #78) If we take the same scenario as in #78 but isntead of comparing the two maps to each other, we take the average from them. 25 kills per map, when you play 30 rounds -> 0.83 kills per round 20 kills per map, when you play 20 rounds -> 1 kill per round -> 22,2 kills per map, 0.915 kills per round Both of these values represent the players performance well, but the difference is in the format the information is displayed. 2. Relationship between KPM and KPR Notice that KPM can be easily converted to KPR and vice versa. Conversion can be done using the formula: KPM / Avrg. rounds = KPR KPR x Avrg. rounds = KPM When the number of maps is high enough the average rounds value becomes a near constant. This means the conversion can be done same way the conversion (for example) between celsius and farenheit can be done. In that case the constants are 1.8 and 32. Both of the measurement units measure the same thing and the same can be said for KPM and KPR. (Note: If you try to calculate these with the example data the results will be slightly off due to rounding errors in the data) 3. Why is KPM better than KPR? We have now determined that both of the stats (when used in the manner described) contain the same information about the players performance. So why do I think KPM is better? In the end it comes to personal preference but my resoning's for favoring KPM is as follows. With KPR you always have to think how many kills per game (map) would the given value be? For example, with KPR 0.8 I would do the math and find out that in a 30 round game, the player would get 24 kills. Whereas KPM would give the the value I want without any math having to be involved. Therefore, KPM is a more descriptive stat. TLDR: The average kills per map and average kills per round contain essentially the same information but in a different format. Average kills per map is a more descriptive stats and thus is better (this is subjective). edit: grammar
2021-04-13 16:52
what is even that question? lmao
2021-04-13 15:29
1 reply
#78 clarifying his position to pose another question
2021-04-13 15:30
#82
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Finland DTeeVee
Obviously?
2021-04-13 15:30
1 reply
#78 average kills is an indicator kpr is a more precise stat
2021-04-13 15:42
Source? Also, blameF? FalleN? nafany? cadiaN? Jame?
2021-04-13 19:13
2 replies
Did you reply to the wrong person?
2021-04-14 07:13
1 reply
Yes sir I did. lmfao
2021-04-15 01:18
An informative one? It's the same as kills per round but in this case it's per map?
2021-04-13 15:28
5 replies
What if you always play longer matches?
2021-04-13 15:29
1 reply
Mens stop being reasonable, it's hltv after all. Good point tho
2021-04-13 15:40
30 kills in 100 round map isnt as good as 10 kills in 16 round map
2021-04-13 15:38
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#104
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Finland DTeeVee
How many maps go 100 rounds?
2021-04-13 15:43
1 reply
not many but its just an example
2021-04-13 15:45
the bast stats when it comes to fragging ability id say
2021-04-13 15:30
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2021-04-13 15:31
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after he answers, you say that? its the same as asking , do you prefer to sit on a cake or sit on a chair? but after he answers you say "but on the chair , theres a dildo that you have to sit on" LUL
2021-04-13 16:08
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max
2021-04-13 16:55
1 reply
Peter
2021-04-13 19:25
It’s not brother. Just add some context and then it’s alright as you did in #78. Added context and everyone sees what’s up
2021-04-13 15:46
2 replies
kpr/adr are way better stats measuring individual perfomances than kills per map
2021-04-13 15:52
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Yeah ik but still a stat to look for. Not saying that it is better than kpr/adr
2021-04-13 17:14
that title was 2-3 years ago lol, at astralis peak
2021-04-13 14:24
6 replies
+1
2021-04-13 14:29
+1
2021-04-13 14:30
#23
NiKo | 
Montenegro G1EX
+1
2021-04-13 14:33
and was carried by danish hltv users for more 2 years
2021-04-13 14:57
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#74
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Norway BijeaN
+1 LOL
2021-04-13 15:28
+1
2021-04-13 15:20
#3
fl0m | 
Norway MarsPi
not anymore, but he sure as hell was in 2017 - end of 2019
2021-04-13 14:24
9 replies
Wait for LANs
2021-04-13 14:25
1 reply
#9
fl0m | 
Norway MarsPi
I still don't think he will frag as well as he did then, but it's probably gonna get a lot better than what it is now.
2021-04-13 14:27
2016-2017 it was fallen, but 2018-2019 was glave but i dont remember others
2021-04-13 14:31
4 replies
fllane doesnt count, hes an awp abuser
2021-04-13 14:32
2 replies
ok czech
2021-04-13 14:34
1 reply
ok brazil
2021-04-13 14:35
#31
fl0m | 
Norway MarsPi
I agree with you about 2016 but imo Gla1ve was the better fragging IGL in 2017 for what he did for his team, when you bring in his impact aswell. Not to say fallen was bad in 2017, he definitely wasn't
2021-04-13 14:43
He probably still is if we're saying "all time" in cs
2021-04-13 15:23
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yeah, just meant like atm he doesn't look as strong as he did back in the 2018 era
2021-04-13 18:55
He was on Lan. And yes based on the currnt form you can criticize him for not being good online. But you cannot change the history. He is the best on lan
2021-04-13 14:25
2 replies
Another online complain
2021-04-13 16:41
1 reply
I am not complaining. I am jjust saying glave is not good online. No need to take negative assumption about all the comment. Read first
2021-04-13 17:18
best fragging igl must be CadiaN right now.
2021-04-13 14:26
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jame
2021-04-13 14:28
14 replies
blameF?
2021-04-13 14:29
13 replies
I don't really rate him as a good fragger as much because the frags are way less impactful. He's good fragger but jame is the better fragger for me just because of impact
2021-04-13 14:31
12 replies
Blamef’s impact is higher than Jame.
2021-04-13 15:03
11 replies
flag checks out, definately not. 80% of blamef kills are anti eco or lurking and getting an impactless kill
2021-04-13 15:20
10 replies
I’m talking about the impact stat sauna boy. A stat that isn’t based on your opinion or feelings.
2021-04-13 16:14
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Haha you're actually delusional if you think blamef has higher impact on the game than jame. Maybe you should watch the games instead of just blindly looking at flawed stats. As I said flag checks out. Also last 3 months jame has higher impact stat by 0.01 but before that blamef has higher.
2021-04-13 18:24
8 replies
impact doesn't care about exits or eco's. An eco ace will be more valuable than a 2 kill round that destroys enemy economy in an important round and wins you the game
2021-04-13 18:26
Funny how you’re talking about being delusional when everything talks against you. Blamef is constantly top fragging for CoL and often carrying them, meanwhile YEKINDAR is the player that is carrying VP not Jame. Of course Blamef has a higher impact than Jame. Watch the games don’t let your ignorance cloud your judgment. Not sure why I bother discussing CS with no scene clowns like you though.
2021-04-13 19:08
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Your only argument is that he top frags for col and that my country has no scene, yet I'm way more knowledgeable and most likely better at cs than you are.
2021-04-13 19:12
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My argument is: better impact stats, blamef is often carrying his team to victory (if that doesn’t count for impact I don’t know what does) You argument: ehh watch the games man, I tHiNk Jame is more impactful. Yeah you totally got me in the argument department.
2021-04-13 19:15
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impact consists of kills, 1vX, entries, multikills, adr, assits, kast + might be forgetting something. It's obviously a flawed stat since the stat can't calculate alot of the stuff in a cs match. Seriously if you think he has more impact I suggest watching some demos. Yes, he's carrying col a lot of the time. But at what cost? they might lose 16-12 and he has 32 kills, but what if it took 2 teammates to bait for him for most of the kills. On the matchpage stats it might look like he's doing great, and he is somewhat, but in reality he got all of the resources. At epl he didn't even hardcarry them like he usually does, he barely had more rating than poizon. in their playoff run you could easily argue that poizon was their best and most important player as in the match against nip blamef was 2nd bottom, poizon was top. In their match against navi he topfragged but they all farmed except for k0nfig and he didn't topfrag in either of the maps, just the series. poizon was tied 2nd. But in their last match I think he carried somewhat, but poizon had a better t-side when they had their comeback. impact is a broken stat and jame obviously has better impact ingame. Yeah, blamef is often carrying but so is jame. And poizon had atleast an equal tournament to blamef at epl. And I'm pretty sure if you remove the match against renegades (tier 72) poizon had a better rating for the whole tournament. Didn't check thought so could be wrong. You can't argue my points. I can argue yours.
2021-04-13 19:28
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I never said he carries Col in ALL their games, no player does that, of course there will be games or even tournaments where someone like k0nfig or poizon have played better. But you can't deny Blamef is the most consistent of all the Col players. The only way for you to argue my points is: iMpAcT iS bROkeN. How convenient. And your only argument is to watch demos which I have and is why I disagree with you in the first place.
2021-04-13 20:17
And my point was that his frags aren't as impactful as jame's are.
2021-04-13 19:12
How does everything talk against me? I agree that blamef is a good fragging IGL. I just think jame is a BETTER fragger. He might not have as many frags but he's a better fragger. Maybe you can watch a blamef demo to see the amount of impact he has, if you don't pick it up from the observing of the streams?
2021-04-13 19:15
blameF easily I still think but Cadian doing great as well
2021-04-13 14:29
Yes.. 2 years ago. Times change lol
2021-04-13 14:26
Niko is the best fraging igl
2021-04-13 14:26
3 replies
When Niko joins HLTV. You will be kicked
2021-04-13 14:29
not an igl
2021-04-13 14:29
+1
2021-04-13 14:45
#10
fnx | 
Brazil Moglao
FalleN (on his prime)
2021-04-13 14:27
Not rn during their peak ofc
2021-04-13 14:29
That title is two years old, friend.
2021-04-13 14:32
#26
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Europe Pts
There was an update on VAC few months ago haven't you heard? He's just at his natural skill nowadays
2021-04-13 14:36
Yes he was in 2018..... (TOP 8 BTW)
2021-04-13 14:38
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how does this change that gla1ve was the best fragging igl in 2018?
2021-04-13 14:58
Literally #41 You're making a fool of yourself
2021-04-13 15:22
#28
cyx | 
Denmark VojenZ
Things change. Who has said that last few months? - None.
2021-04-13 14:41
Your country is wrong , don't @ me
2021-04-13 14:41
#32
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
You're a little out of date, friend.
2021-04-13 14:45
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#35
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United Kingdom tardbard
I will report him for you jonty!
2021-04-13 14:53
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#38
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
You don't have to report this particular thread, friend.
2021-04-13 14:55
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#40
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United Kingdom tardbard
Im confused! What should i do here!
2021-04-13 14:58
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#44
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
You should trust in your instincts, friend. :) Sure, the thread is bait but do you feel that this thread is report-worthy? If you do, report away. You shouldn't feel the need to report just because I disagree with the opinions.
2021-04-13 15:03
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#121
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United Kingdom tardbard
I want to do what you say!
2021-04-13 16:06
+1
2021-04-13 15:20
4 majors
2021-04-13 14:47
You dont have gla1ve in team to frag out anyway, he is supposed to be the best tactical IGL in the world. Other players can have the role of fragging just fine.
2021-04-13 15:04
#49
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Germany i_dont_car
yea like 3 years ago
2021-04-13 15:18
not in 2021. some time earlier, sure
2021-04-13 15:20
Times change bro. Move on.
2021-04-13 15:20
Right now it's between Jame, nafany, and cadiaN
2021-04-13 15:23
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#77
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Australia Caveman_
I thought Hobbit was IGL? Edit: I guess not lol
2021-04-13 15:30
5 replies
he gives secondary calls from time to time
2021-04-13 15:35
4 replies
#94
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Australia Caveman_
Yeah, I thought it would of been reasonable to presume that Hobbit, someone with more experience and knowledge, and prior experience with the IGL role would of taken it over. I guess that's also why Hobbit performs so well on the server.
2021-04-13 15:37
3 replies
#HobbitDIDNOTHINGWRONG
2021-04-13 15:38
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#125
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Australia Caveman_
What do you mean?
2021-04-13 16:34
1 reply
Hobbit did nothing wrong, literally. His decision to join Gambit, I mean
2021-04-13 16:38
#75
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Australia Caveman_
All IGL's don't frag out as much in Europe, take for example Dexter, he was in Australia and he was performing better than his team and then as soon as he goes to Europe, he averages 0.97 or something like that in the past 3 months. So I guess its not that they are a good fragger compared to other players, they are just better than other IGL's at fragging.
2021-04-13 15:29
blameF is
2021-04-13 15:31
atm moment he isnt, but you have to realize in 2018 he was A TOP 10 PLAYER. Not top ten fragging igl but one of the best players in the whole game.
2021-04-13 15:41
Taking something that was commonly said from 2018 and applying it to 2021 to further your agenda of hating on a player you don't like. Clear sign of mental illness.
2021-04-13 15:48
6 replies
are you a doctor
2021-04-13 15:50
5 replies
A psychologist
2021-04-13 15:50
4 replies
ok nice can i have a diagnose
2021-04-13 15:51
3 replies
Tell me something about yourself
2021-04-13 15:52
2 replies
what do you want to know
2021-04-13 15:52
1 reply
This is the point where you write a paragraph about your struggles and joys and I pry into your mind with my infinite knowledge of the human brain
2021-04-13 15:58
It's their worst period ever wtf did u expect. hahaha
2021-04-13 15:51
his form is pretty bad right now but doesn't change the fact back in their prime he was basically fragging as well as most teams starplayers while being IGL. His rifling is pretty damn strong when hes on point. Though hes really off now, but maybe its not only him but entire team looks really bad. They need new blood
2021-04-13 16:09
no on ever said that
2021-04-13 16:39
no, blameF is
2021-04-13 16:43
#137
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Poland v1ctorex
yeah but its the quote from 2018
2021-04-13 16:57
#143
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Germany suriel666
yeah he struggles getting into double digits lol .. always like 5-17 or 8-23
2021-04-13 17:27
BlameF can frag, AleksiB, Jame, Navalni.
2021-04-13 17:48
1 reply
as aleksib0b fan, aleksi doesn't frag compared to nexa / baitF / Jame
2021-04-13 19:13
It's a busy time in his life tbf
2021-04-13 19:19
#165
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United States MDMOS
apart from those who baits, Fallen
2021-04-13 19:32
He obviously isn`t now, but he used to be one of the best fragging IGL`s. Nobody is arguing that he is now, so I don`t understand why you even made this thread.
2021-04-13 20:17
In 2018 , yes for sure the best fragging igl.
2021-04-14 07:17
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