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ENCE disband?
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Finland Habalabachoochoo 
Im not feeling this team anymore, they cant play consistent, they lose to shit teams in open quals, always 2 players doesnt join the server (a.k.a 5-21 stats, mostly spinx, i like spinx tho), allu never above 1 rating, dychaa plays like its fpl, snappi stuck in tier 2 for 10 years why would he become tier 1 suddenly? Then u have dotoo whos ok support but doesnt really bring any impact in the game, hard stuck tier 2-3 team who cant outaim teams ever, so when ur opponent has good strats and aim what happens to ence? 16-0. ENCE should have signed Gorillazzz for real... Im still gonna watch ence games but i said it here, they wont make hltv top 10 ever and will make roster moves or disband within 3 months already. Imagine if ence just kicked allu instead of aleksib, aerial, sergej, xseven... made sergej main awp and bring sunny for allu, man fuck ence fuck natu fuck them all.
2021-04-14 21:34
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please put +1 even if u dont read, gives me confidence.
2021-04-14 21:35
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#2
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Russia Kalacia
-1
2021-04-14 21:35
5 replies
no, u read it wrong, put +1
2021-04-14 21:35
4 replies
-1
2021-04-14 21:41
3 replies
... 0iq
2021-04-14 21:45
2 replies
-10
2021-04-14 21:48
-1
2021-04-15 15:21
-1
2021-04-14 21:37
1 reply
+1
2021-04-14 21:40
-3000
2021-04-14 21:45
1 reply
? Reply needs to have actual content
2021-04-14 21:46
+1 There you go :) Confidence is key, and a very important element for self acceptance :)
2021-04-14 21:48
2 replies
+1 thanks
2021-04-14 22:01
name checks out
2021-04-15 11:09
#40
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Serbia LtN))
-1
2021-04-14 21:58
+1
2021-04-14 21:59
-1111
2021-04-14 22:09
8 replies
-fallen from liquid and they are better.
2021-04-14 22:10
7 replies
Yes and +allu to IGL and AWP
2021-04-14 22:10
6 replies
in finnish
2021-04-14 22:10
no.
2021-04-14 22:10
4 replies
who tf is natu?
2021-04-14 22:12
3 replies
a retardo, reason why ence is downfall
2021-04-14 22:14
2 replies
thanks for explanation very understandable xd
2021-04-14 22:14
1 reply
np
2021-04-14 22:15
-1
2021-04-14 22:13
#83
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Finland kihisbob
+1
2021-04-15 09:46
#84
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France Il_padrino
+1
2021-04-15 09:49
+1
2021-04-15 09:56
interwebs likes gives confidence :D
2021-04-15 10:50
how many matches? flair and flag checks out
2021-04-14 21:36
3 replies
what, i dont understand
2021-04-14 21:40
#102
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Greenland L_S_R
+1
2021-04-15 13:53
What
2021-04-18 18:28
#6
Dosia | 
Poland iOFF
i give u -1 because u only blame them because they lost to vp to this lucky rats 15-3 xD
2021-04-14 21:36
2 replies
vp lost was cherry on top, they can never recover from that.
2021-04-14 21:38
1 reply
#13
Dosia | 
Poland iOFF
we will see /closed
2021-04-14 21:40
Idk SKADE didnt used to be that shameful of a team to lose to in a qual idk if they got any worse or something though At this ENCE rosters creation it was pretty clear it was just another international mess with no actual chance of getting properly into the top15 just because of the simple fact there are so many better callers and awpers than Snappi/Allu above the top20
2021-04-14 21:37
2 replies
+1 Skade lost im not even mad, normal ence. But in open quals they barely beat level 9 mix team, like how is that possible?
2021-04-14 21:40
1 reply
Goes to show how imoortant work saw does. If the team they are facing has no demos to study, it is gg. But against vitality for example, they were almost all the time one step ahead
2021-04-14 21:46
-1 braindead thread
2021-04-14 21:38
1 reply
explain.
2021-04-14 21:39
We've moved up 14 places in the rankings, which is the most of any team in the top 30. You can't say "Disband" when the team has only been together for a few months and are still getting used to playing together. Also, you say Spinx has stats like 5-21 but he has easily been the 2nd best player for us since he joined the team (just behind Dycha who has been insane). Just give the team some time. They've hardly been together long enough to call a disband
2021-04-14 21:40
16 replies
Dycha hasnt performed in single tier 1 game btw, spinx has really good games and been playing better but hes not consistent at all, he can have 1.60 rating next game 0.22 rating and throws games, and if team wants to be top 10, u cant afford that. Why does teams need time so much? Havu is already top 15 beating everyone after couple months, plenty of teams just gets it going instantly. Allu is the biggest bag of shit in this team, main awp who should be that 1.25 rating player always bottom 3 fragger. Also we already saw snappis capable of calling (dust 2 against vp), thats unacceptable by "tier 1" caller. Shouldnt be possible. Also i think one of the biggest reasons why ence won those games, well vitality shit form, mouse shit team and form, g2 was good win BUT, none of those teams had anything on ence, that was basically ence debut, they didnt see single ence demo how they play. Imagine when teams have all ences data how they play and ence cant out aim, result? 16-0. /closed
2021-04-14 21:44
15 replies
snappis first dust 2 game in 5 years is the reason unluko
2021-04-14 21:58
#48
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Argentina macrigato
"Dycha hasnt performed in single tier 1 game btw" ??????????
2021-04-14 22:01
12 replies
gyazo.com/3ffa599dd357da18e8f1bfaca21d4b.. 1 good series was against vp, which ence lost anyway so doesnt matter. Also im not sure if it was even "good" since they lost 15-3 lead
2021-04-14 22:03
10 replies
#52
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Argentina macrigato
You said that dycha hasn't performed in a single tier1 match, and that's false. Unless you do not consider VP tier1 lol
2021-04-14 22:04
9 replies
I do consider them tier 1, but its not good series if u lose 15-3 lead lmao, like if u perform, u should solo handed get 2-3 kill round and win the game no?
2021-04-14 22:05
8 replies
#60
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Argentina macrigato
He performed, he killed 33 in d2 lmao. How much more do you want from him? Second highest ADR in the bo3, if that's not having a good match for you then maybe you should look up good in the dictionary.
2021-04-14 22:11
5 replies
33 kills, and lose 15-3 lead, he got like 6 kills on that vp comeback, if he had good performance, he would have won that map alone at that point. But stop ignoring the photo and talk about 1 map when 25 maps is bad.
2021-04-14 22:12
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#65
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Argentina macrigato
You know that a bo3 has 3 maps, right? I'm not ignoring the "photo", you said that dycha hasn't performed in a single tier1 match and that's just false,period.
2021-04-14 22:14
3 replies
If u lose 15-3 lead, you didnt perform well, doesnt matter what ur stats are. If i remember correctly, dycha had like 30 kills at 15-3, then nothing.
2021-04-14 22:15
2 replies
#70
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Argentina macrigato
LMAO you can't be this retarded dude, seriously.
2021-04-14 22:16
#80
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Finland J0rm
Have to admit, even though you are finnish and all, you are dumb... If you get 33 kills in a map, you can't consider it being NOT good. They weren't even exit frags aka Sh1ro style frags
2021-04-15 09:40
have you tought about the fact that Virtus Pro is one of the best if not the best ct sided team on dust2? ence was ranked about 28 and had been toghether for less than 2 months while vp has been toghether for a super long time, even getting that close was insanely good for ence
2021-04-18 18:21
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You sound like it wasnt a total fuck up to lose 12 rounds in a row on dust t side lol Like 2k elo team would have gotten a round
2021-04-18 18:22
#101
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Finland farkly1
Use your brains finnish friend, they have been playing together back in time many many times (not all together) but you got my point. Thats why they dont need that much time like ence needs. Simple as that.
2021-04-15 13:50
#25
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Finland V1lske
Maybe use ur brain more. It doesnt mean shit if ence lose 1 map against no name team. And that "they should have signed gorillazzz" is nonesense cuz they have only won some faceit lvl 8 teams
2021-04-14 21:45
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gorillazzz 100times better team on paper, also flusha seems to be great igller since he has been wanting to igl for years for his own team. Sunny aim has been crisp after he left ence and sergej got away from toxic allu so hes back to hltv top 20 easily, calyx looks like a beast too Also u shouldnt lose to skade 2-0 if ur good team lmao, just tells how bad the aim is in the team. Also doesnt help when u have 2 30 year olds in the team, others awping and other is tier 3 igl... We will see but this post is legit and im right, u will see
2021-04-14 21:58
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#76
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Finland V1lske
and also ence needed team for epl so....
2021-04-15 08:56
so you are saying snappi wont become t1, if you expect this team to reach tier1 then you are delusional
2021-04-14 21:45
1 reply
+1
2021-04-14 21:46
#33
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Finland Cucumber))
+1 for 1st and 4th part
2021-04-14 21:48
#36
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Luxembourg TheBudi34
-1 but havu top1 finlad anyway
2021-04-14 21:53
1 reply
-1 for ur -1
2021-04-14 22:00
#38
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Nigeria STFU_M8
you thought this ence would worK? ONLINE CS is so boring even valorant is better (lol), havent watched game in months. I just watch some scores. allu is decent at the max. spinx/dycha pug players no team experience snappi t3 IGL sadly doto good support for t3.
2021-04-14 21:55
1 reply
#68
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Argentina macrigato
0/8
2021-04-14 22:15
#41
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Serbia LtN))
flair checks out
2021-04-14 21:58
1 reply
flag too, im still ence fan and i watch their games, im not hater i just see what u will see in year.
2021-04-14 21:59
+1
2021-04-14 21:58
2 replies
Blunt official ence hater :DD
2021-04-15 10:22
1 reply
I wouldn't care that much if I hated ence but nt
2021-04-15 13:41
Ence disband ffs
2021-04-14 22:00
spinx and dycha honestly the only ones delivering
2021-04-14 22:02
-1 Just let it go and be a fan boy of Aleksib and teams that are in a win streak. Just think Ence a foreign team so it helps you with the emotional growth. btw. True fans sticks with the team in ups and downs.
2021-04-14 22:05
fan of HAVU talking about ENCE disband.. HLTV.org nowadays hahah
2021-04-14 22:16
ZOREE>Allu sergej is better rifler
2021-04-14 22:18
#73
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Canada zizzle21
who tf is Gorillazzz
2021-04-14 22:19
2 replies
2021-04-15 09:43
1 reply
Oh my god
2021-04-15 09:57
this one is another failed project because the only people who perform is spinx dycha and for real snappi cant get this team to t1 i can see natu's face when his "golden boy ence" isn't doing that well after aleksi kicking. you can see his bitterness when aleksi wins something he doesn't care but follows scene actively ence's gm squad needs to be changed
2021-04-14 22:25
4 replies
yes ence management needs change and bring back aleksib
2021-04-17 20:58
3 replies
Wouldnt even be suprised if ence COULDNT afford to bring aleksi back, and OG looks super promising with niko and Flamez, no reason to leave. + ENCE management fucked him over, making him sign new contract with massive buyouts then kicking him few months later, making a decision to kick him behind his back. I dont think he will ever join ence again
2021-04-18 18:18
2 replies
Thats why the management would be gone aleksib > ence management
2021-04-18 18:20
1 reply
Oh yes, i misread )
2021-04-18 18:21
#75
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CIS Runtz
I think -doto -snappi, dycha and spinx usually frag well, allu is a hit and miss. They need a better IGL and another tier1 fragger
2021-04-14 22:35
#78
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Denmark dR_JaCkPoT
ENCE not supposed to be a tier one team
2021-04-15 09:35
+911
2021-04-15 09:36
#81
Twista | 
Finland SWGi
+1
2021-04-15 09:41
Everybody should go with own direction imo: ENCE: allu (IGL/AWP) zehN ottoNd (AWP) jOELZ juho Snappi as IGL in Tricked or Astralis Talent doto i have no idea maybe back to HAVU instead of jemi Dycha and Spinx in new international team
2021-04-15 10:03
6 replies
#103
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Hungary Pitsa31
Actually not bad idea if Ence disband. Allu is definetly not tier1 anymore, Snappi could have use in Denmark, Doto>Jemi atm, Dycha and Spinx could easily get another team.
2021-04-15 14:09
5 replies
you mean Jemi>Doto?
2021-04-15 14:17
4 replies
#108
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Hungary Pitsa31
Nah, Doto have good game sense and his aim is pretty good plus he have played better against top30 than Jemi. Doto and Jemi are both also supports Edit: nvm, both have played like shit against top30 according Hltv stats
2021-04-15 14:27
3 replies
xD
2021-04-15 15:19
Jamppi is unbanned so -otto +jambbo in my potential team
2021-04-15 23:46
1 reply
If he wants to join ))
2021-04-18 18:19
"Dycha hasn't performed in a single Tier 1 match". Idk what teams you like to consider as 'Tier 1' but if you go through his stats since joining Ence, a majority of them are in the green and the ones that are in red are by low numbers like -3 or -6 with just a couple of outliers where he's been negative by 10+ but everyone has those games. Also, about the thing about teams needing time. 3/5 players in Ence have been in the team for 2 months whereas everyone in Havu has been in for longer than that. Aerial has only been there for 3 months so thats understandable. Jemi, only 4 months but thats still DOUBLE the time that Spinx, Snappi AND Dycha have been in Ence for. Especially ZOREE and sLowi who have nearly been in the team for 3 years so they obviously work together very well. Allu is the only player in Ence who has been there for a long time so even he doesn't have that much experience with the updated roster. In regards to Snappi's calling, you talk about Dust 2 where, bearing in mind we were winning 15-3. Yes, we choked the lead but I think that's just because of individual performances not being up to scratch for the remainder of that game. Snappi's calling has been fine and again, he's been in the team for 2 months so everyone is getting used to how he plays as an IGL. I agree with you in that we were somewhat lucky winning the games against Vitality and Mous in that they were in bad form but I do also believe we played well against those teams and that it wasn't all just luck. G2 was a good win yes and again, we played very well against them.
2021-04-15 10:44
2 replies
didnt read btw
2021-04-17 20:57
+1
2021-04-15 10:46
>lose few games >Im not feeling this team anymore hello plastic fan and welcome back when ence wins some big games
2021-04-15 10:49
1 reply
lose the games instantly after enemy has ur demos lol, its not coincidence, go lose to young ninjas, apeks and skade lol
2021-04-16 23:24
I feel that this team would be good on lan.
2021-04-15 10:50
#96
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Czech Republic BlastTM
they are still together like 2,5 months, i think they will become better eventually, also epl playoffs are achievement after being together with that long
2021-04-15 11:03
2 replies
#107
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Germany Droidd
+1 They play better against better teams
2021-04-15 14:23
#146
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Finland draXzb
+1
2021-04-18 18:32
mostly spinx lol he is only one playing with dycha
2021-04-15 11:06
#98
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Europe letqpena
It worked at first, but the honeymoon period has ended.
2021-04-15 11:08
1 reply
+1 teams have demos of ence now.
2021-04-16 23:24
#105
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United States VShadow
This roster was cheap. That why they got it.
2021-04-15 14:19
#106
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Germany Droidd
they play better vs better teams tbh they just need -allu +a good awper like ottoNd or ZOREE
2021-04-15 14:22
4 replies
ottond hasnt been relevant in years and zoree cant even perform in tier 2 lol
2021-04-16 23:24
3 replies
#121
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Germany Droidd
flair and flag doesn't check out
2021-04-16 23:24
2 replies
im not biased finn, i know what im talking about.
2021-04-16 23:25
1 reply
#125
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Germany Droidd
smort
2021-04-17 03:12
nt b8
2021-04-15 14:32
#111
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Finland Porro
losing apeks bro
2021-04-15 15:20
1 reply
exactly... team can be top 10 1 day then tier 60 other day, not gonna make it.
2021-04-16 23:23
#113
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India V1R33X
spinx is good mens ;)
2021-04-15 15:22
1 reply
yes but inconsistent
2021-04-16 23:23
+1!!! Hope it keeps you motivated! I know how it feels to not have any so there you go
2021-04-15 23:49
1 reply
thannks mens
2021-04-16 23:23
#124
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Turkey Bbaris
yep. They've ruined my x1000 bet f*cking idiot team vs Young Ninjas. 50$ to 50000$ just one f*cking game.
2021-04-16 23:26
1 reply
yes ur addicted
2021-04-17 20:57
believe me already? losing to dbl pony, like who?
2021-04-17 20:57
how many times i need to bump this
2021-04-18 18:07
like its so clear im so right, please comment im right...
2021-04-18 18:08
If all of the matches wouldn´t be online and ENCE would have participated on LANs I would even partly agree. Still look at these results in the past weeks 9z winning against Vitality, Havu getting smashed by team they shouldn´t. Online cs is too random, and considering the fact that one bo3 between top 50 teams is almost the same than putting a #25 vs #15. Only top 5 teams in the world are quite "solid" Imo the difference between tiers is so small nowadays, that is why we are seeing these upsets quite often, even against good teams.
2021-04-18 18:14
4 replies
You cant use online cs as excuse when its been online for year. If you keep losing to nip academy team and 2-0 to these random tier 3 teams its clear its not working. Also Snappi never played in tier 1 team good so why would he suddenly bring ence to the top?
2021-04-18 18:21
3 replies
But Vitality havent lost against Y Ninjas or Nordavind, still 9z did pull one of the biggest upsets for a long time. You have to admit that it is more random, but of course there are many factors which are affecting on the gameplay. And what I have been looking at ENCE´s games, some of those T rounds are just really questionable, pushes without anything and dying. There is something going on but also the fact is that they haven´t played together for that long, still Allu´s and Snappi´s experience should have even some kind of affect. But as said, usually these situations are outcome of many different things.
2021-04-18 18:25
"Also Snappi never played in tier 1 team good so why would he suddenly bring ence to the top?" this hurts my brain because had aleksib been playing tier 1 csgo before he joined ence? No he hadn't. Did Gla1ve play tier 1 csgo before he joined astralis? No. Had Jame and Nafany? No Boombla? no, Cadian? No. Snappi has the experience from earlier teams that he can bring them to the top
2021-04-18 18:25
1 reply
All of those IGL's you mentioned was young and was starting their career when they get to the tier1. Snappi is 30 years old, so i arent think that he suddenly became tier1 IGL in that age.
2021-04-18 18:36
I really want ENCE to perform, but they keep losing to snow sweet snow level teams, which is unacceptable if you ever dream of being a real contender or even a top 15 team. it takes time and shit but they should have more firepower than NORDAVIND or young ninjas
2021-04-18 18:23
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#149
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Europe Gleff
I mean that's to risk of going to tier 2 tournaments. Alot of tier one teams are not gambling upsets in tier 2 tournaments since teams like anonomyno can upset etc etc. Sprout can have good days against Astralis. DBL can roll over mousesports easily.
2021-04-28 00:28
They are still making money, for example having Dycha on the roster brings more polish fans and having paid EPL spot, will grant them to stay in 30 for most of the time, which means invites to some tournaments which means more money from sponsors. It is not about the results completely, with that complex they can still make money
2021-04-28 00:24
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