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are germans supposed to have national pride
Germany idontevencare 
its kinda weird that so many people are not proud being german, neither am i, for things we dont even really remember outside of documentaries, history books and some stories form our grand parents. i wonder if there will ever be any german flags hanging outside because besides the wm 2006 i barely ever saw anyone putting a german flag anywhere ,but everytime i visit another country, i.e. france, i find it quite cool seeing all the flags hanging outside. Im curious if that will ever be the normal case in germany aswell.
2021-04-16 10:49
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Serbia LtN))
Ok
2021-04-16 10:50
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welcome Mr. I have so many comments thanks for your valuable input
2021-04-16 10:55
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welcome mr Jermen thanks for not speaking your terrible language
2021-04-16 11:03
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2021-04-16 11:30
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Oh sorry. Didnt realize im supposed to be grateful for Jonathan E and his rules and not for Jermens speaking english
2021-04-16 11:58
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Austria LaPollon
why do you use the EU flag when you're just beeing rude to the - economicaly - most important country in the EU?
2021-04-16 13:58
nobody cares and neither should you
2021-04-16 10:51
no, germans shouldn't have national pride
2021-04-16 10:52
I think that people who argue Germans shouldn't be proud of their country are naive about the atrocities their ancestors in their own country carried out in the past.
2021-04-16 10:54
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I have never seen a proud Brit, Russian or Turk argue that Germans shouldn`t have any national pride, only those who don`t love heir own country argue that way.
2021-04-16 11:36
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Yes but I mean that some people who ARE proud of their country argue that Germans shouldn't be because of the atrocities against the jews and the wars but seem to forget that every country has committed evil acts throughout history, even their own.
2021-04-16 11:48
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If you say that that`s the case, then I believe you, I was just stating that I had never heard of anyone who is proud of his own country being demeaning towards the pride of other countries.
2021-04-16 11:49
my turkish friend is very proud to be german idk
2021-04-16 10:54
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kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-04-16 11:33
axaxax
2021-04-16 11:38
Unironically that`s a good thing, he is supposed to be German instead of Turkish, after his family has lived here for 3 generations.
2021-04-16 11:41
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+1
2021-04-16 13:42
Turkmany new swedistan
2021-04-16 13:23
Don't let anyone guilt trip you over something as important as your heritage.
2021-04-16 10:55
yes? if ur country isn't shit then be proud of it no matter the history
2021-04-16 10:56
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What do you consider shit, 3rd world?
2021-04-16 13:55
I'm a proud german and no one can anything about it. Greatest country in the world.
2021-04-16 10:57
I am glad to live in germany, I dont know if that counts as pride. But I don't take pride in stuff that I didnt achieve, I got lucky in being born here.
2021-04-16 10:58
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Lucky being born in Germany?
2021-04-16 11:48
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Correct.
2021-04-16 11:50
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You baiting or something?
2021-04-16 11:54
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You'd rather be born in Jermany or in Somalia?
2021-04-16 12:12
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Somalia.
2021-04-16 12:14
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wow look at dot at the end you so edgy you so cool mens)))) pls give me tactic how to be this alpha male))))
2021-04-16 13:37
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No.
2021-04-16 13:38
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wow bro 300 girls fell in love with you rn
2021-04-16 13:40
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ITS EVERYDAY BRO.
2021-04-16 13:43
Jewmany lol
2021-04-16 13:03
why would he
2021-04-16 13:17
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Cus Germans are cringe af.
2021-04-16 13:38
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doesnt really make sense but whatever
2021-04-16 13:41
#144
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Belgium lil_vodka
germany > usa
2021-04-16 13:46
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Germany sterzik
agreed
2021-04-16 14:13
The question isn't "should you be proud of being German?" but rather "what about being German makes you proud?" and "what does your pride entail?" It is better to be proud of 70 years of German peace and reconciliation than it is to be proud of 300 years of British Imperial dominance
2021-04-16 10:59
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Germany reGiis
u very smart mens
2021-04-16 13:32
Not gonna lie, british imperium gives me goosebumps in a good way. Oh how both of us have fallen
2021-04-16 13:45
#162
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Germany sterzik
+1
2021-04-16 14:14
u definitely should have national pride as one of the greatest nation in history, but yeah, imo u jermens do everything to discredit urself as a nation past few decades
2021-04-16 11:00
We should put German flags everywhere and be proud of being German.
2021-04-16 11:00
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Problem is that we can`t even have the cool flag with the eagle in the middle, because that`s a government flag :/
2021-04-16 11:35
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There are many more better German flags to use
2021-04-16 11:39
I personally feel like national pride has never been that strong in germany historically. At least not compared to other nations. You have to remember that germany used to be scattering of hundreds of small areas, with many cultural differences. The only thing similar was the language. The whole identity part of the unified germany thing was mostly fabricated. I personally don't feel more connected to people from eastern germany or the Ruhr-area than I would feel to other europeans.
2021-04-16 11:01
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It was very strong in the 19th Century, people fought revolutions to have an united germany, both during Napoleonic times and in 1948. Also germs are the only Barbarians who successfully stopped Rome and ofc Goths and Vandals even sacked it. (though there is no reason to be proud about that part of our history.)
2021-04-16 11:34
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Europe kief_cheef
+1 i feel like germans are more "patriotic" for their federal state/city/region
2021-04-16 12:00
during periods it was strong, but mainly for the wrong reasons
2021-04-16 13:20
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Austria eights
I don't really get the "proud of your country" thing. I mean I am proud of things I acchieved. But why shouldI feel pride for the fact that I am born in a certain country? That's hardly anything I worked for.
2021-04-16 11:08
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one minute too late. totally agree with you brother!
2021-04-16 11:10
+1
2021-04-16 11:12
+1, its usually for people that dont have anything else to be proud of lol
2021-04-16 11:37
+1 exactly spot on
2021-04-16 11:45
+1 national pride is so weird to me and i feel that people who are proud of their country are kinda dumb in a sense that they have nothing else to be proud of (?) ..
2021-04-16 11:51
lol
2021-04-16 11:57
+1 national proud is a dumb thing, nobody should care
2021-04-16 12:12
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Mongolia Tuffixx
+1 good reasononing!
2021-04-16 13:17
+1
2021-04-16 13:25
+1 smart answer, we need more people like you
2021-04-16 13:42
#163
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Germany sterzik
+1 lets just get rid of nationalities al together, they get in the way of so many things anyway
2021-04-16 14:15
never got the point of being overly proud for where I live and where I'm from. Its not an accomplishment/achievement to be born in a country, it's a random factor you couldn't decide. For me being a german doesn't mean anything at all to me.
2021-04-16 11:09
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Austria eights
+1 my man :)
2021-04-16 11:11
sounds more like the people are ashamed instead of not proud lol
2021-04-16 11:39
I mean, that's a fair point but on the other hand, I'm proud of my parents even tho I had absolutely nothing to do with what they've achieved... Not being proud of who you are doesn't make sense to me
2021-04-16 12:38
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yeah I'm also proud of my Mom. But as a person, not for being a German. She could also be polish, turkish, whatever. I live close to the border of Netherlands and anytime I cross it I think about 'if I was born 20km near here I would be Dutch'. I can go there by bike and it would've changed my nationality. It's hard to discribe it, but you get what I want to say? It's completely irrelevant to me :D
2021-04-16 13:01
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Yeah I get it. The main difference bettween us is that for you, you are german because you were born in a territory called Germany. You don't believe in the concept of the Nation, the concept of the german/germanic people. As I, not only was born in the territory called Portugal, but I belong to the portuguese people, portuguese Nation. I would be a completly different person if I was born in Japan. Because my society, my Nation molded my individuality. That's why that I have proud in my parents and in my Nation (people) and therefore my country (made by my people) It's differents points of view I guess :) (Both valid of course)
2021-04-16 13:10
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Germany reGiis
I had the same thinking when i was younger. But i think its not about the history or something but its more about feeling connected with other german people and going through the same things in the country, a. e. the `lockdown`. Furthermore you go cheer together in sports and feel connected there. I think ´proud´ is just the wrong word, because its smth you archieved by yourself.
2021-04-16 13:42
Nowadays beside the history there's not much to be proud of except strong economy and maybe football
2021-04-16 11:09
Germans are smart
2021-04-16 11:13
There always are people putting flags out or on their car during the WC, the Greens are furious each time, but that`s part of the charm
2021-04-16 11:32
Lol be proud to be a german fuck the left donkeys that think otherwise. Am i supposed to be sorry for fucking slavery (some people and party's actually are lmao)
2021-04-16 11:38
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? ? ? we're talking about germany bro I would be proud to be german, but of course regretful about the past. German culture is very nice though, and I don't think german pride is a problem. But you're talking bs man...
2021-04-16 11:40
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i was giving an example about my own country, we had a lot of slavery
2021-04-16 11:44
leftists logic lack some brain >you can't be proud of the achievements of your nation >you should feel bad about everything evil your nation did in the past
2021-04-16 11:45
I think national pride is stupid regardless of your country. You didn't choose to be born in your country, maybe you had a lucky spawn, so be it, but don't boast with it.
2021-04-16 11:46
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Cool now pay war reperation
2021-04-16 13:40
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cool but pay us full price and we will leave the union as fast as we can so you wont pay us more
2021-04-16 13:45
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No we won't.
2021-04-16 13:45
well you have some good engineering stuff, you can be proud of that. still volvo cars bestest
2021-04-16 11:45
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Porsche>>
2021-04-16 12:28
idk just embrace the prussian flag back
2021-04-16 11:49
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Finland siloquez
It's because of the Nazis and the "whatever-agenda-ideology", but remember every Finn will never forget Germany's help @ WW2 ;) soundcloud.com/siloquez/goatrippy
2021-04-16 11:51
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
Germany is a great country, you should be proud of being German despite every bad thing. I doubt that people just hang out flags randomly in other countries. Never seen it here. A true fan supports something through high and low. Be proud of your heritage. Viva la Republik!
2021-04-16 11:51
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Europe Moon_young
It's not your fault someone 70-100 years ago did some attrocities, I think it's retarded to take responsibility for any of that.
2021-04-16 11:54
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Finland mmiikkaa
if you think your country is achieving now great things then feel proud if its not then just simply don`t feel proud. Don`t let history make your decisions about whats happening now. Being aware of what happened in history is good but it no longer matters because in this case it hardly leads to repeating mistakes.
2021-04-16 11:55
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Russia Syonamaru
Don't worry, m8, in Russia we are not proud of our country either. Patriotism is dead, and the bulk of the so-called 'Ura-patrioty' are just a bunch of brainwashed people who don't want to see the obvious.
2021-04-16 11:57
idontevencare
2021-04-16 11:58
u actually went downhilll big time. from strongest and most feared warriors in the old age, now u become hipster without any respect for the self. only few have germanic genes , its sad
2021-04-16 12:01
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You forgot soyboys
2021-04-16 12:10
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beer has more estrogen than soy, explains why u became a weak place in germany.
2021-04-16 12:17
National pride is for idiots, no matter where you are from.
2021-04-16 12:02
theres no pride here, at least where i live germans dont stick together. have a fight with 1 turk, rus or refugee and there will be 100 in front of your house in no time but have a fight with a german and he either wont show up or be alone. also people often confuse national pride or patriotism with racism here. i dont know who brainwashed us germans but they did a good job. most likely the media so smth like 1939 never happens again
2021-04-16 12:08
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"i dont know who brainwashed us germans but they did a good job",i know who did it and the same people who are doing this are still controlling mostly white countries,also this people promote: BLM,Communism/Marxism,Multiculturalism,Abortion,Race mixing etc... If you are interested i can PM you on HLTV.
2021-04-16 12:46
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i already know the answer i just couldnt type it out because muhh racism and i would get banned again
2021-04-16 14:01
Im proud of the German Wehrmacht
2021-04-16 12:10
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same real chriswow who cheated on lan in cod4?
2021-04-16 12:24
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I cheated in basically any game back in the days. Battlefield 1 was one of them :'D
2021-04-16 13:33
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then u arent the real chriswow/kayos my friend. the guy im talking about is a cheat legend, he cheated on lan and got caught, coded his own cheats for faceit, was in close contact with supex0 etc. hes insane but i think he is/was in jail for scamming amazon
2021-04-16 14:03
based
2021-04-16 12:30
National pride in Germany is somethig that historically wasnt very strong expect 1813. There has never been a founding myth like in France or GB which resulted in a lack of national pride throughout decades. In the Reich (1873-1918) they searched and found a way to show their pride by having a militarized standard of living. In the Third Reich they defined their national pride by nationallism and antisemitism bc it was something most of the prople shared. But personally iam really proud of my country culture and especially of people in music and literature in the past. And I think almost everyone should be proud of that
2021-04-16 12:12
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Italy NotNew
2021-04-16 12:12
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that kinda looks for every white country,Israel has right to be Jewish,Japan for Japanese,India for Indians,Saudi Arabia for Arabs but Europe is for every one :)
2021-04-16 12:15
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Italy NotNew
we are talking about pride not immigration
2021-04-16 12:16
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but every white european country has the same problem about being nationalistic and being called racist by mainstream medias,it's not only Germany bro
2021-04-16 12:23
Meanwhile some countries can commit war crimes but no one talks about it (ehem usa)
2021-04-16 12:25
Germans have a lot to be proud of, but of course your countrys history is an issue, which is why people are apprehensive of showing "too much" national pride.
2021-04-16 12:18
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I think it will return after some time. I mean there are so many countries that have commited war crimes (either don‘t talk about it, or it is just a long time ago) but they still have pride.
2021-04-16 12:24
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USA, GB, Belgium, Spain, France, Portugal, NL and list go and on. And yet we didn't leave Europe yet. People tend to see only German war crimes lol
2021-04-16 12:38
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The problem is that it was "THE" war crime. One of the worst, USA what they do in the Middle East is little compared to it, still bad, but yeah...
2021-04-16 12:56
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But it‘s what they are doing right now. Germany has learned from their mistakes and seeks conversation rather than confrontation. While the usa continues bombing what they want.
2021-04-16 13:09
UK and probably other colonial countries killed way more people, but in longer time span.
2021-04-16 14:09
What does this have to do with leaving the eu?
2021-04-16 13:10
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You didn't understand. I was pointing the countries with war crimes from europe. By leaving the europe I was meaning that asian and african countries comitted war crimes as well, not only european countries.
2021-04-16 14:07
germans used to be feared alpha males tbh, won so many wars. now all there is left is immigrants, lgbts and soyboys.
2021-04-16 12:25
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Look at all the genius scientists/inventors of the 19th century. Half of them are german. The technology we use we owe to germans.
2021-04-16 13:44
Schnauze
2021-04-16 12:25
probably to scared of being called nazi's if they act like proud germans. if u look most right wing or neo nazi's there is a lot of proud in them when it comes to their country
2021-04-16 12:28
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Brazil logzera
Germans are too smart too even care about this these days.
2021-04-16 12:32
i stopped thinking about this at some point and now im not really proud of being german, cause you always get hated for that. i started calling my self a proud bavarian and nobody EVER had a problem with that so....
2021-04-16 12:34
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Indonesia segopecel
as if nation is still relevant in eu
2021-04-16 12:35
Dont you have a national day or smth?
2021-04-16 12:36
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South Africa bonkaz
Why should I care or be proud of being German or any other nationality? I can be proud of things I do and achieve. Being born in a rich and safe country is just lucky. It's what we all do with the headstart that matters in the end. Same goes for the bad parts of Germany's history. Can't do anything about it but try to help shit like that never happens again.
2021-04-16 12:42
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Nation states and idea of our own country being something ”special” is a made up thing, starting in 19th century. The irony is that every country ”needs” to be unique, in trying to do that all countries are actually doing the same thing...
2021-04-16 12:46
+1 nobody should be proud or ashamed of their nationality
2021-04-16 12:53
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sorry but you should be ashamed of being german and im proud that im from great polska. i mean thats how world works
2021-04-16 13:42
I recommend you watch anime called Attack on Titan. Crimes done by previous generations is a big theme there.
2021-04-16 12:44
No, after 2014 incident everyone should be ashamed
2021-04-16 12:46
I've never seen people usually hanging their flag in other countries either
2021-04-16 12:48
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Lmaoo not true Even in porn I can see American flag kekw
2021-04-16 13:44
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But USA dumb, ans I'm talking about countries I've visited
2021-04-16 13:45
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Personal experiences are not facts I guess
2021-04-16 13:49
Wtf hahahahahaha but it's true , nationalist mia
2021-04-16 13:52
Be a proud citizen of planet Earth :)
2021-04-16 12:50
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thx buddy. Nice to see that some people think outside of 'boarders' lol. I live like 20km right next to the Netherlands and I don't feel any different when I go there f.e.
2021-04-16 13:17
Aside from the US and a few other dumb countries/people "national pride" isn't really a thing.. you were born in that country? Wohoo... good for you...
2021-04-16 13:04
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Cuck take
2021-04-16 13:53
Well, nationalism is dangerous. You should be proud of your country of course, if you feel that way. Personally, I think that in 21st century we shouldn't really have tribal feelings anymore. I don't care if someone is English, Bulgarian or Russian, people is people. Countries have their purpose to serve citizens who return something in taxes and other obligations, it's contract. Countries also dangerous tool in geopolitical battle for resources fought by individuals and multi companies, not countries. Citizens who have national pride are far more prone to go in battle for other interests then others, thinking that they are defending national pride, borders, etc. All in all, every war is fought for some individuals to be richer. I think we should be smarter then that.
2021-04-16 13:05
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Ukraine W1ldHunt
Then split to little regions as it was before forming Germany
2021-04-16 13:12
i mean cmon russians did holodomor, turks did armenian genocide 1915, belgians did congo genocide, china is doing uyghur genocide right as i type. The reason why many germans have guilt is because they lost a war meanwhile doing that. The countries that i mentioned didn't lose wars meanwhile doing that (ok maybe turkey did). History is written by the winners.
2021-04-16 13:21
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turkey won a tougher war several years later to compensate
2021-04-16 13:39
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Russia Karamazov
don't equate Soviet government led by Stalin with Russians
2021-04-16 13:55
more cuz its world wide in history classes. while the other genocides are not even thought by the own country and still denied by many in power of that country.
2021-04-16 14:04
no, the world already has experienced ur national pride 2 times in 1914 and 1939, fuck off jermans
2021-04-16 13:29
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Europe dontrax
no one should be proud of being part of a nation everyone should be proud of the nation's achievements tho /close
2021-04-16 13:30
Yes
2021-04-16 13:40
We lost 2 wars, commit genocide and were rebuild by the Americans so not too much to have pride in
2021-04-16 13:44
There was a man born in 1889 April 20. You should be proud of him. Or ashamed, depending on your views xddd
2021-04-16 13:44
mayb to scared of being called nazis? like already being nationalist or proud of your country makes u a nazi and rightwing person.
2021-04-16 13:52
The thing I dont understand is why germans dont have pride in their heritage before the 1900's. Surely enough, in WW2 the nazis commited unspokable atrocities, but so did every other country. With that logic, the nazi flag should be treated with the same hatred as the soviet flag and the chinese communist flag but it sure is not... All and all, yeah you shouldnt be proud of WW1-WW2 history besides a few specific things (advances in science for instance.) But theres no reason to not be proud of germany before the 1900's.
2021-04-16 13:53
You jermens once in 20 century had a big dream and you could have done it, but instead you made a terrible mistake and started a war with russians, so no more pride for you sorry especially now when your country not so german anymore with that "wonderful" migration policy from your government, sad that in couple of generations Europe will become Ethiopia
2021-04-16 13:55
#152
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Europe Pflatzi
national pride just 4 peopple who can't be proud about their own achievements
2021-04-16 13:55
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Finland HARD4ENCE
It will all be forgotten after WW3. Then Russia will be the main culprit.
2021-04-16 14:13
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