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currently there are 4 asian teams in the top 10, three of whom are in the top 5. we have seen the rise of these cis teams during the online era and they are all still performing even after months of being at the top. so my question is do you guys think they will be able to keep this going even at lan? asia already has one major, and even though europe has won the last 3, european cs is currently very stagnant and very few up and coming players and teams are showing up and even the tier 2-3 scene is dominated by alot of cis/asian teams. in my opinion i think NA'VI and one other team will be able to keep their form up for lan and im pretty sure its between VP and spirit, gambit is playing good, but they have little lan experience and they are a very young team, but who knows. discuss
2021-04-16 18:12
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Only navi and vp , little to no chance Gambit and spirit will perform the same. LAN is different.
2021-04-16 18:14
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maybe so, spirit has a lot of experience though, just not on lan
2021-04-16 18:15
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nah spirit 7man roster bro when LAN comes they are done
2021-04-16 18:18
8 replies
what do you mean? they only have 5 players
2021-04-16 18:21
7 replies
nt Spirit Academy
2021-04-16 18:22
6 replies
i doubt they'd use any of those players if that was what you are alluding to
2021-04-16 18:24
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meh whatever though it's mostly unlikely that they would play good on LAN , maybe they become confortable on LAN , mb after 3-4 weeks they would actually perform if they got the chance
2021-04-16 18:26
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#42
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CIS TheBigSAM
You literally have no argument. This are ex-Vega players, most of them are veterans and were considered second best CIS team for the longest time. Spirit and Gambit are not going to fall off, they are too good
2021-04-16 18:39
3 replies
u sure?
2021-04-16 18:41
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#58
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CIS TheBigSAM
Ehh... Yeah
2021-04-16 18:48
This this dude’s just dumb and mad that CIS numba wan
2021-04-17 16:35
by asians u mean hobbit, sanji, qikert etc? in cs:go they are still cis gambit are slightly overrated in terms of "gAmBiT eRa" but nonetheless im sure they will be able to keep top-10 and win tournaments consistently navi are relying on individuals which inevitably makes them very moody team. they've been back and forth around top-15 since the very beginning of cs:go and i don't expect anything to change soon spirit is kinda undiscovered material, hard to say will they keep up with gambit or just bomb out of top-15 within 2-3 months. i believe in something middle of these 2 vp? idk, they are kinda losing grip, it looks dangerously similar to their slow dying after the major final
2021-04-16 20:10
Gambit has Hobbit, who will probably be able to hype them up just the same as he hyped them up when they were playing top teams for the first time.
2021-04-16 19:21
are you saying gambit and spirit are too poor to travel to LAN?
2021-04-16 19:26
I think that Gambit and Spirit would stay at the top and VirtusPro and Navi drop down the world rankings a bit. The reason I think VirtusPro will drop down because their slow starts are getting read, an example of this is the CoL vs VP game. But judging from their firepower I doubt they would stay down for long. Navi does not have the best starts compared to most of the Cis teams. However they are making roster changes (-Flamie +B1t), but the one thing Navi does need is an experienced coach/IGL. Boombl4 is a great fragger, but they need better starts and that's why getting a better IGL and coach would help them out.
2021-04-16 20:06
#152
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Serbia LtN))
+1
2021-04-17 15:39
asian ? wtf ?
2021-04-16 18:15
"asian"
2021-04-16 18:16
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KEKW
2021-04-16 18:25
#41
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Russia iamidiot
asian
2021-04-16 18:39
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#73
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Europe Daudy
VP is asian at best. Navi is Russian Gambit is Russian Spirit is Russian
2021-04-16 18:58
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#92
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Finland mmiikkaa
depends on are the player from west or east from ural mountains the border of europe
2021-04-16 19:27
27 replies
Navi: Perfecto - Omsk Boomich - Moscow Flamie - dont know birthplace but if i remember correctly he lived in Moscow before joining navi Electronic - dont know but i think he lives in moscow now. That would make Navi European team with simple being from Kiev From quick google searches i couldnt find anything on gambit From spirit i could only find that SDY is from Kiev
2021-04-16 19:53
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#103
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Finland mmiikkaa
so navi is obviously europe/cis not asian but on vp and gambit we can debate
2021-04-16 19:56
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Well I said VP is basically asian since Most of kazakh population is in asia and Sanji is turkmenistan i have not argued about VP. But when you consider how much of russian population lives in european part i think with pretty high probability we can claim that Spirit is European too since SDY is 100% European so you would need 2 more and 2 out of 4 makes is really likely that they are european (by majority of 3) gambit might actually be asian but since i didnt find anything right away and this doesnt change the fact that they are still all considered CIS i dont think its really important. They have their own style of CS and they speak russian I dont think it matters that much if they were born west of Urals or East. But you are correct it is debatable.
2021-04-16 20:01
Gambit Europe too. 4 Russians, dude.
2021-04-16 20:31
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#92 did you just skip the whole point of the convo or what?
2021-04-17 15:04
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Shiro, Nafany, Interz and Axiel all from European part of Russia
2021-04-17 15:18
1 reply
Thats more specific atleast.
2021-04-17 15:52
just for information, elec is from Kazan
2021-04-17 15:03
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So elec + boomich + simple makes navi deffinetly european team.
2021-04-17 15:04
#143
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Russia TRAV1SZ
flamie Moscow, elec Kazan' - tatarin ?
2021-04-17 15:06
17 replies
Kazan is west of Ural - Europe
2021-04-17 15:09
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#155
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Russia TRAV1SZ
capital of republic Tatarstan, Russia
2021-04-17 15:59
#167
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Kazakhstan Avantc7
He is probably originally tatar(turkic, asian nation) cuz his surname Sharip is pure tatarian/muslim name
2021-04-17 16:33
11 replies
Well i guess refrezh doesnt count as European than...
2021-04-17 16:34
10 replies
he was probably born in denmark so he is europeans
2021-04-17 20:00
9 replies
Nobody cares about your opinion mr shit baits
2021-04-17 20:00
8 replies
its not an opinion its facts
2021-04-17 20:02
7 replies
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia "European Russia is home to roughly 80% of Russia's total population" By your logic Denmark isnt European en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark Total area of Greenland 2,166,086 km2 Total area of European Denmark 42,933 km2 I hope you get permabanned
2021-04-17 20:06
6 replies
greenland isnt denmark, its a autonomous area under the kingdom of denmark. denmark is entirely in europe
2021-04-17 20:08
5 replies
You just said Greenland is Denmark
2021-04-17 20:09
4 replies
greenland isnt denmark, denmark is denmark
2021-04-17 20:13
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Greenland is autonomous part of Denmark. Greenland is Denmark. Denmark is North American /clsoed
2021-04-17 20:18
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ok but russia is still not european
2021-04-17 20:43
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"European Russia is home to roughly 80% of Russia's total population" But their population is and we are talking about people here. Dude i know you are baiting but jesus fucking christ are those baits weak af
2021-04-17 20:44
no
2021-04-17 15:32
Elec is russian you genius. 52 percents of people living in Tatarstan - Russians
2021-04-17 15:48
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#165
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Kazakhstan Avantc7
Sharipov is pure Slavic name xaxax Lemmi explain it for you, the name Sharip is tatarian/muslim name, derived from Arabian language
2021-04-17 16:27
+1 NA EDU KEKW
2021-04-17 23:01
The only team you can remotely call asian is VP
2021-04-16 18:18
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russia is in asia
2021-04-16 18:18
3 replies
0/8
2021-04-17 23:03
Russia stretches out across half the globe lol, it is both in Europe and Asia
2021-04-18 15:15
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No its mainly in northern and central asia. It has nothing to do with europe
2021-04-18 16:15
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Russia penelopa228
why do u alws bait with that "asian" word
2021-04-16 18:18
22 replies
how is it a bait? cis isnt a continent. when i refer to people from certain parts of cis i use asian
2021-04-16 18:20
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I doubt Spirit,Navi and Gambit players live in the Asian part of CIS
2021-04-16 18:21
20 replies
they live in russia which is historically an asian country
2021-04-16 18:22
19 replies
xD ok buddy
2021-04-16 18:23
16 replies
do you really think russia is european?
2021-04-16 18:25
15 replies
keep baiting ur good at it
2021-04-16 18:26
13 replies
so you're not even gonna be answering my questions?
2021-04-16 18:36
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Russia AlexFrutis
The border between the parts of the world Europe and Asia is most often drawn along the eastern foot of the Ural Mountains and Mugodzhar, the Embe River, along the northern coast of the Caspian Sea
2021-04-16 19:09
#79
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Russia AlexFrutis
try to google omfg uneducated
2021-04-16 19:09
10 replies
so? most of russia is still in asia
2021-04-16 19:10
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#81
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Russia AlexFrutis
ok most Danes are uneducated alcoholics
2021-04-16 19:14
7 replies
i guess we would have something in common then
2021-04-16 19:17
3 replies
part of something =/= 100% you're just another kid who can't think critically
2021-04-16 20:07
The area of the European part of Russia is about 3.5 million km² (this is about 35% of the entire territory of Europe, stupid kid) try to learn geography beyond your country
2021-04-16 20:10
42 933 km² - this is the square of your country omfg
2021-04-16 20:11
Historically, Russia was part of the Golden Horde and its Ulus, why u get mad when someone says that russia is part of asia, or its people are technically asians. there is no shame to be black, russian or asian. say no to racism
2021-04-17 20:54
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Thats not racism. This guy claims that all of Russia is Asia. How can you even compare a part of a continent and a golden horde? da fuk???? Really the eastern part of russia is asia. We 're talking about the continent here omg. Not about the race. Why is there any tolerance lol
2021-04-18 15:13
Asians in Russia are the most common thing. Rather, when you look like European and come to Asian countries as a tourist, you will be looked at as an alien.
2021-04-18 15:18
nobody saying its not, its europe/asia, part/part. Is that satisfactory for you? with your geography knowledge, don't talk about it man..
2021-04-16 19:51
yes it is you dummy.
2021-04-17 01:06
#75
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Russia AlexFrutis
kekw I don't know something about geography
2021-04-16 19:00
NA and SA were connected prior to the Panama canal and still they were considered as separate continents. Being practical is better than just blindly following some rules.
2021-04-16 19:29
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Denmark Jonasnhj
Russian isnt asian. Just to let you know since your brain didnt go to school
2021-04-16 18:20
5 replies
check his profile biography
2021-04-16 18:23
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#24
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Denmark Jonasnhj
Jesus, thank you. Imma get the hell outta here brudda. See you on the other side
2021-04-16 18:25
#50
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Russia iamidiot
fuck capitalism #ACAB #BLM #stopasianhate fuck trump and all republicans _____________________#Fa _____________________#FaZe _____________________#FaZeDo _____________________#FaZeDown _____________________#FaZeDown #Down ________________#FaZeDown Fa ___________#FaZeDown #FaZeDown ____________________#FaZeDown _____#FaZeDown #FaZeDown #FaZeDown #FaZeDown #FaZeDown #FaZeDown #FaZeDown
2021-04-16 18:44
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CIS TheBigSAM
Thank you for pointing this out. I won't waste my time now
2021-04-16 18:52
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#66
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Russia iamidiot
np
2021-04-16 18:53
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North America 007DBR9
they're not asian they're cis, most are majority russian
2021-04-16 18:25
2 replies
his joke being, cis = asia
2021-04-16 18:27
cis isnt a continent
2021-04-16 18:28
#39
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France IRVINGx9
cis = asia = oceania = SA = NA NA CS is back boys !
2021-04-16 18:39
#43
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Kazakhstan Trapptrapp
after trashy online era of Coronavirus, all tier1 teams will be top again... NAVI, Astralis, Vitality etc trashy n00bs from Vp, GamBOT will learn their place (top20-30) again
2021-04-16 18:40
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#59
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Russia iamidiot
XDDDDDDD I am 100% sure that Gambit and VP will remain in the top 10 at least
2021-04-16 18:50
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#61
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Kazakhstan Trapptrapp
top9-10 at best (5% chance)
2021-04-16 18:51
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#63
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Russia iamidiot
u will see gambit and wp will be in semis on the major
2021-04-16 18:52
you keep making prophecies buddy
2021-04-16 19:19
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#84
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Kazakhstan Trapptrapp
history says so, no me
2021-04-16 19:20
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history already occured, what you are doing is prophetizing about the return of LAN because it hasn't happened yet, fantasizing because the way things are standing right now, aren't favoring your favorite team. and truth is, you dont fucking know. nobody does. nobody cares about history. we watching the games NOW because we want to enjoy the games we have NOW. not cry about the shifting of power.
2021-04-16 19:22
The good LAN teams will improve, but these teams will still be threatening. Everyone who thinks these teams are "online only" and not here to stay aren't very smart.
2021-04-16 18:45
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yeah, anyway its not like they never played online or they dont wanna play online.. it's just not possible to play LAN right now so naturally the best online teams will rise to the top.. and once they are at the top of LAN they will learn to shift meta.. all these guys are incredibly young and adaptable
2021-04-16 19:37
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its not even "online teams", if you've noticed its a lot of players who haven't won many LANs, it's harder for the veterans to stay motivated in this time and it's easy for the young players to be motivated. For many, they understand the LAN experience, and that invigorates them, but for others, these online matches are the biggest matches they've ever played, and that gives them drive. tl;dr these new teams have more motivation and work harder than the older, more experienced teams
2021-04-16 19:41
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"that gives them drive" yes this exactly that's why I don't think it'll be so straightforward for the traditional LAN teams to rise to the top once again when LAN comes back. you just don't know what kind of drive these new guns will have, and how the odds are in their favour instead once that the tables are turned. they just won't "unfigure out" the top teams that easily. and indeed, these new/online players grind like nobody else - inevitably this will result in a meta shift.
2021-04-16 20:42
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eh the LAN teams will get more motivated when they travel to their LANs, but I get what you're saying
2021-04-16 21:33
Complexity CIS killer, EZ4COL
2021-04-16 18:52
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2021-04-16 18:55
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#147
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Russia TRAV1SZ
im with u bro. i like to trust in nobs too
2021-04-17 15:19
#85
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
CIS and Asia depends on the area specifically. 77% of Russia is in Asia but depends on the political situation of Russia obviously. Personally I don't think referring to them as Asian teams is correct here, it's Russian/CIS, not Asian. That aside, I think any "eras" are entirely possible. :)
2021-04-16 19:20
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nice to see you still posting jonty :)
2021-04-16 22:26
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Thank you. :D I try and post as often as I can and every day, if possible. :) It's good to see you posting as well, friend. :) Glad to see you're okay.
2021-04-16 22:49
European Russia is home to roughly 80% of Russia's total population. why would u compare the territory ? no one lives there
2021-04-17 01:02
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I was just overall generalising. When it comes to CIS, you don't really mention Asia at all... Just because 77% of it is in Asia doesn't mean that those living their are Asian, they are still Russian.
2021-04-17 01:12
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Europe Vallon4
Unrelated to thread, but SK never had an era.
2021-04-16 20:13
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Not unless you count 2003.
2021-04-17 01:13
Russia is Europe too, bruh. Our Asian lands - what we coquered. Original Russia - Moscow, Novgorod and etc. Cities located in Europe. We are slavs like Polish, Ukranians and etc.
2021-04-16 20:33
1 reply
moscow is not "original russia"
2021-04-17 16:31
asian. danish education is such a joke
2021-04-16 22:58
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Not their education at fault, just another baiter
2021-04-17 16:10
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Russia Desstar
I travel to Asia every year. Has already been to Singapore, Korea, Kuala Lumpur, Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, China and Mongolia. Culturally, Russia has nothing in common with Asia. Historically, Russia has interacted more with European countries. Napoleonic wars, World War I, World War II, etc. 80% of the population lives in Europe.
2021-04-16 23:39
makes no sense that russia is not europe, norway goes more east than st.petersburg and we are definently not asians
2021-04-17 01:08
NaVi #1 in CIS and #1 in the world.
2021-04-17 07:32
#145
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Russia TRAV1SZ
education in Denmark... gl with that, boys
2021-04-17 15:11
Gambit new top2(heroic top1 duh) for sure GOAT team. Sprit fucking insane team top5, no question about it. YEKINDAR alone makes VP a top5 team no doubt. NAVI, meh top10.
2021-04-17 15:30
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spirit seems so stacked but it feels likey they have been pretty quiet recently
2021-04-17 19:53
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Yeah, but they will reach the finals of blast here, and before that they got smashed by GAMBIT, that just counter-strat the SHIT outta them, it was insane from gambinos.
2021-04-17 19:55
I did not know that in Denmark it is so bad with the knowledge of geography
2021-04-17 15:38
1 reply
I talked to one of those "Russia is Asian" type guys before, literally no concern for Russian culture or the continental border
2021-04-17 16:12
CIS has the fastest internet connections
2021-04-17 20:06
1 reply
confrimed and very cheap
2021-04-17 20:10
So Astralis, Heroic is NA teams. The 2 130 800 km of Denmark is in Amurica.
2021-04-17 20:10
Calling CIS an Asian is dumb. It might be Asian geographically, but not culturally.
2021-04-17 20:57
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