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CIS ERA = RIP CS GO
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Brazil wetdark 
As much as there are many CIS viewers, I think that CS GO cannot sustain the audience only with teams like Heroic, Gambit and Spirit reaching the finals of the championships. Therefore, if the other regions do not dominate again, I think that CS GO may have started its demise. If at that time any BR, Navi, Liquid, FaZe and other teams were playing, the audience would be extremely higher.
2021-04-18 17:06
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#1
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Russia VelsVivard
Other teams will have to get their crap together and contest again then? It's not the best teams' fault that they are the best, am I right??
2021-04-18 17:06
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#5
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Czech Republic T18^
Yes, you're right.
2021-04-18 17:08
#7
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Brazil wetdark
It is okay to be the best now, but the marketing is weak. For CS GO to thrive, it needs an audience, so we will have many sponsorships at the events. CIS is unable to bring in these sponsorships that the West does, it is the only problem.
2021-04-18 17:08
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#15
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Poland Santho
What? Actually when NaVi is playing you sometimes have more people on russian stream than in all other streams combined Actually it's the best for CS:GO if one of two region have their team in top3/5 - CIS and BR
2021-04-18 17:13
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#24
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Brazil wetdark
Navi is a different case. It has many fans besides CIS, it has BR fans and other regions, a lot due to S1mple. But when it comes to Heroic, Spirit, Gambit, VP, things get more difficult.
2021-04-18 17:14
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#66
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United Kingdom Triturn
Prolonged success is how a fan base starts. If these teams stay at the top they will develop large fanbases
2021-04-18 17:43
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+1, just look at Manchester City.
2021-04-19 09:17
+1 I’m a NAVI fan since 1.6 when they bad markeGOD Edit: HAD***
2021-04-19 10:41
#71
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
Why is Heroic in that list? They're danish...
2021-04-18 17:52
The best teams attract people with marketing anyway. A lot of folk are going to continue watching the big events and especially the finals. It's not their fault that they're the best, and they're not going to kill CS:GO by being the best. That's a stupid way to phrase it that takes away from their achievement and blames them for something they didn't do.
2021-04-18 17:13
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#29
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Brazil wetdark
They are not the best teams that attract marketing, they are the most successful teams and fans. It is not enough to win a tournament, it has to be admired by many fans. It all comes down to money. If I have a company, I want it to be advertised on the shirt of the most beloved team and with the largest fan base, because I want to earn money and not raise trophies to fill a closet. It is not the CIS teams that will be able to do this. with the exception of navi
2021-04-18 17:17
Oh you are Holy and incredibly wrong Most CIS teams are rich af idk how
2021-04-18 17:14
This question is about everyone’s opinion, I guess. In my opinion, I dont care who is in the top because i’m not huge fan of anyone, I like to watch every team in top 20 and of course top teams facing each other is interesting, doesn’t matter for me if it’s either NaVi, Liquid or Gambit.
2021-04-19 09:05
#2
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United Kingdom JackINF_
I kinda agree. I do wanna watch CS again but I have 0 interest in watching Gambit, Spirit, Heroic ETC. Can't fault them for playing well though, but I do wanna see the bigger teams compete in the latter stages of events
2021-04-18 17:07
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#12
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Brazil wetdark
Exactly.
2021-04-18 17:11
#30
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United Kingdom sashat77
Problem is that right now, and for the last few months, they are and have been the "big teams". I'd put money on gambit and heroic and vp doing better than astralis vitality and liquid at any upcoming event. That kinda makes them the big teams in my eyes
2021-04-18 17:17
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#49
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Brazil wetdark
The only issue to be debated here is that CIS CS players need to participate more and come here to see them. There is no point in raising a lot of trophies and the audience for the semi-final and final are lower than G2 x Nip.
2021-04-18 17:32
#57
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United Kingdom JackINF_
I mean "bigger teams" in terms of influence and money. That's probably the reason that these "smaller" teams aren't a bigger draw since they don't invest as much into marketing and behind the scenes stuff that some of the other orgs have been doing in the past years. Also these CIS players ain't got much of a "personality" perhaps due to the language barriers but all in all there is just no draw for me to actually support these teams outside of the fact that they are actually playing well as a team comparative to the fan favourites.
2021-04-18 17:38
the 'big teams' didn't become big overnight. even if they were able to instantly field a star studded line up by only being a piggy bank, they have started out in a different game and garnered their success there.. it's healthy for the scene to have more competition
2021-04-18 17:36
#3
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Brazil wetdark
In fact, CIS fans do not give as much support to their teams as other regions. CIS cannot sustain CS GO, unfortunately.
2021-04-18 17:07
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Wat? From my point of view, Liquid fans don't support their team enough. You know why? I don't follow western liquid fan pages. This particular argument is garbage
2021-04-18 17:13
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#91
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Germany yannxbr
Watch the any naffers spam in a Liquid Game
2021-04-19 08:10
#26
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Russia Karamazov
How was it measured? Do teams disclose info about support from each region?
2021-04-18 17:15
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#34
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Brazil wetdark
CIS has a lot of players, when you look at the spectators of the finals, you notice that they are not important to the teams. The little audience they get is due to the public from all over the world added. America and part of Europe.
2021-04-18 17:19
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There are literally 30000 russian speaking viewers watching this blast showdown finals rn. On Russian stream alone
2021-04-18 17:21
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Is this that much?
2021-04-18 18:30
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Considering english stream numbers - yes
2021-04-18 18:33
#40
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Russia Karamazov
So you actually mean that there aren't many fans of these teams with younger stacks. I thought you meant support per fan in terms of money or views or whatever.
2021-04-18 17:23
#4
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Russia Syonamaru
0/8
2021-04-18 17:07
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#8
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Brazil wetdark
Look at the viewers, if they supported, things would be better. We have 3 teams in the finals and no one comes to watch them.
2021-04-18 17:09
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yeah cuz who wants to see what they hate. Nobody wants to play with Russians.
2021-04-18 17:12
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#21
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Russia Syonamaru
Cry then
2021-04-18 17:13
#18
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Russia Syonamaru
A couple more tournaments and people will have to start respecting them. It gives me pleasure to watch a good, thoughtful, smart cs. Previously, it was shown by Astralis, G2, FaZe, Liquid but now these are such teams as Spirit, Heroic, Gambit. Competition is what a cs is. There is no eternal leader, and in two or three years everything will probably change - but now it is.
2021-04-18 17:13
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#50
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Brazil wetdark
Yes, but you may be watching and feeling good about the games, but the rest of the CIS also needs to enjoy the games as you do. If they don't come to give an audience, things get complicated. There they will depend on the audience of the other regions.
2021-04-18 17:33
+1
2021-04-18 17:08
another daily 0iq post
2021-04-18 17:10
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#17
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Brazil wetdark
I think you're the 0iq here. See the audience online now watching this semi final. We have 3 CIS teams competing in the finals and their people don't come to see them. The consequence of this is that the sponsors start to leave, because there is no audience for marketing. Just use your child brain.
2021-04-18 17:12
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u are the one childish here, CSGO bigger than ever and growing all the time and u cry here because your circle jerking big orgs cant compete in high level ;:ASD:ASD:: u cant buy skill. There is zero proof that sponsors are leaving csgo just because there is less viewers in streams. Once lans come back every lan will be sold out.
2021-04-18 17:16
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#51
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Brazil wetdark
I hope you're right. If the CS declines, we will all lose, but if it is growing as you say, everything is fine.
2021-04-18 17:34
Do you know why they dont come, because they all watch russian translation LOLOLOLOLOLO
2021-04-18 17:22
then rest of teams should move to CIS and play from there. They have the fastest internet connections there
2021-04-18 17:10
who cares. its one of the weakest times for CS:GO. let the russians have some online fun. they gonna vanish back to where they belong when we get back to Lans
2021-04-18 17:10
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#13
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Russia VelsVivard
Chumane, sell that salt you got and become a millionaire overnight, so much of it will make your skin dry.
2021-04-18 17:12
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truth hurts hard
2021-04-18 17:12
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#20
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Russia VelsVivard
The only truth is that CIS is on the horse right now, whether you like it or not, and the best team at the moment is from CIS, which isn't even Na'Vi. So there's that, the rest is your consolation point.
2021-04-18 17:13
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Nobody in Europe likes you we would all gladly pay to never have to play with you again So again. Enjoy your 5minutes of CS Fame. it wont last. it never lasts
2021-04-18 17:16
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#32
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Russia VelsVivard
Who cares about you and a couple of your friends, not even questioning about how the topic shifted into playing with people from CIS in general but alright. It already lasts for a several months, wherever you're from, you can try praying, maybe it will help.
2021-04-18 17:18
it really does for you
2021-04-18 17:14
strongest time in the CSGO history actually. Online makes the playing field more even and fair, thats why so many new teams pop off. LAN invites is a gatekeeping mechanism preventing new smaller teams to gain LAN experience and confidence and prioritizing big orgs with large following. CIS always was one of the strongest region in CS. Its just now the teams made good roster changes and online helped them to rise. When LANs will return and if CIS teams will get invites they will still maintain their current level.
2021-04-18 17:51
magixx so sexy damn
2021-04-18 17:18
#33
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Russia reguix
xDDDDDD
2021-04-18 17:18
#35
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Russia mshkoda
ok, seriously speaking, it will be possible to talk about the real CIS era if such results continue on LAN. Secondly, when fnatic or astralis or even luminosity/sk dominated, team from one country, the game didn't die. Generally disagree. And now our teams are simply the best, and you are mad)
2021-04-18 17:21
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#39
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Brazil wetdark
The game did not die for a good reason, SK / LG brought Brazil and Latin America to CS GO with an audience that did not exist before. Gaules was born on Twitch in 2018 only to enjoy everything that this line up has built in terms of audience. But this is because the BR accompanies the teams when they are playing major tournaments. CIS has many players, but they are not here to see Spirit win G2 and probably few will be to see Gambit vs. heroic. Much of the audience is the result of other regions of the world.
2021-04-18 17:24
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#44
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Russia mshkoda
This is semifinal on qualification tournament to blast next stage. And now it is 60k+ on blast twitch stream, 27k on blast youtube channel, 30k gaules, 30k russian stream. Is it so little?
2021-04-18 17:28
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#54
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Brazil wetdark
As I said before, there are many people from other regions, we need the CIS public to come and see it. They cannot depend on the public of Gaules, the Americans, FaZe fans, etc. They need the CIS audience to bring in the necessary audience. Don't you agree with that part?
2021-04-18 17:36
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#63
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Russia mshkoda
I think yes, I understand your line of thought, but I want to add that for a tournament of this level (qualification) 30 thousand is not so little, keeping in mind that spirit is probably the fourth most popular cs-team in our country (maybe I'm wrong)
2021-04-18 17:41
#42
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Brazil wetdark
But don't get me wrong thinking that they are feeling bad for seeing these teams at the top. I'm just looking at it from another perspective, that CIS players need to participate more in order for the game to continue well. If not all the teams we support can lose with this.
2021-04-18 17:26
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#47
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Russia mshkoda
I agree in general that for the development of the world stage there must be tier-1 teams in all regions. in this regard, Valve probably dreams of a superteam from China or the Arab world. But we have what we have.
2021-04-18 17:30
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#55
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Brazil wetdark
That is true.
2021-04-18 17:37
bro, check chess stats. CIS dominates in chess decades and it`s still actuall
2021-04-18 17:21
I'm sick of CIS online flukes. CSGO became boring to watch.
2021-04-18 17:24
The more tournaments these teams win the more fans they get, making the viewership go up later.
2021-04-18 17:26
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#46
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Brazil wetdark
It's possible.
2021-04-18 17:29
i like watching cis teams
2021-04-18 17:28
Wenn Astralis was on top the same shit everyone how csgo is dead because one team is winning....now the same bullshit again ?? CSGO will NEVER die !!!! Wenn COVID and ONLINE era is over then we will see the best CSGO again....
2021-04-18 17:32
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#58
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Brazil wetdark
This is a good observation.
2021-04-18 17:38
don't worry g2 is getting rid of spirit and heroic will clean up gambit.
2021-04-18 17:35
#56
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France SickJDMyo
Heroic CIS?????? Hello?????
2021-04-18 17:38
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#59
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Brazil wetdark
Yeah, I was wrong, but you get the point.
2021-04-18 17:38
das
2021-04-18 17:40
Well the CIS fans are more wise, cool and enthusiastic than Brazilian or SA fans.
2021-04-18 17:40
Rather watch heroic win than any teams you mentioned lol.
2021-04-18 17:41
"I think that CS GO cannot sustain the audience only with teams like Heroic, Gambit and Spirit reaching the finals of the championships." Then how tf did CS survive Astralis winning almost everything for 3 years straight?
2021-04-18 17:42
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#83
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Brazil wetdark
I believe the reason for this is because the other popular teams were at a good level and were also coming to an final, although for the most part Astralis won, they were there and the fans were watching and cheering. But in the CIS finals, spectators are missing, many are from other regions, with the exception of the Navi games. I'm not saying that CIS shouldn't be there, I'm just saying that people have to follow them too, otherwise all teams will lose.
2021-04-19 06:15
#67
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Serbia Belgrade
rofl only 70k viewers in a Sunday... and twitch banned millions of bots days ago
2021-04-18 17:45
Thing is CIS viewers don't watch non Navi games.
2021-04-18 17:46
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#84
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Brazil wetdark
Exactly.
2021-04-19 06:15
So many CIS users crying here but OP is kinds true. Katowice final had much less viewers than for example liquid vs navi in the same tournament. Katowice final in general had poor viewership when comaperd to other finals of big tournaments. Conclusion is simple, people do not watch the best teams, cuz they prefer watching teams they like. Will it kill csgo? I doubt it but im pretty sure tournament organisers noticed it. CIS users can cry as much as they want, but statistics check out
2021-04-18 17:51
#72
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Russia coldmint1
AHHAHAHAHAHA train more pussy
2021-04-18 18:23
Don't worry, LAN will be back soon and Faze will be top 1.
2021-04-18 18:31
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Hope so.
2021-04-18 18:36
online era has been going for more than a year, but all the crying started when CIS teams beat their favorite old teams, lol. bunch of crying kids.
2021-04-18 18:35
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AHAHHA all the CIS kids were crying last year when BIG and Heroic did well. I wonder why they are so quiet now...
2021-04-18 18:38
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no, they were not. stop lying. but when I visit hltv I see a new thread about cis online era, it's not even funny anymore.
2021-04-18 18:40
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Seems like you haven't been on hltv last year.
2021-04-18 18:41
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not my first account.
2021-04-18 18:43
#78
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Brazil Gudrum
Everyone's cheating their asses off. Disgusted by this online bullshit.
2021-04-18 18:37
1 reply
proof or didnt happen
2021-04-19 06:17
blaming teams for playing good? then why your shit teams cant play good and win?
2021-04-19 06:18
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true! Inconsistency is just above so many! Gambit plays good yes, but Astralis and other "top" teams just play like shit
2021-04-19 09:12
this is a computer war game, it's the boys fault they let the ruskis get the upper hand on them time for the boys to shit or get off the pot
2021-04-19 06:20
so you will stop watching cs because your fav team is not winning...you must be 14. 0/8 thread you're actually braindead
2021-04-19 08:04
#89
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Turkey wsmby
look at this, stupid monkey talks again wow
2021-04-19 08:05
#90
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Lebanon Dogman69
goddam muscovites, ruining my csgo
2021-04-19 08:08
everybody is fucking inconsistent! The chances are high, that in two months gambit is back to top 20 and for example Astralis or Navi, maybe Vitaity back on top. It changes so fast, that this is most likely one more of many! THink about how many top 1 we had in online era Fnatic Navi Astralis Big Heroic Gambit Vitality it has just been a year... i hope you see my point
2021-04-19 09:11
#95
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Germany Booya
Nationalist nonsense, start thinking outside of fictional borders ... a brasil might could sheer for a non brasil team *WHAAAAAAAAAAAT*
2021-04-19 09:15
NA/EU/Asia CS is dying, no roster updates, no young talents, switches to Valorant.
2021-04-19 09:16
#97
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United States notawaffle
matchfix to save the scene :D
2021-04-19 09:16
How to bring CS back to life: Only NIP exists
2021-04-19 10:11
It's not like the other teams were born with those high audiences tho, they won the public by simply being best and winning a lot. Why does the same thing cannot happen to this teams you mentioned?
2021-04-19 10:47
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