Thread has been deleted
Last comment
"In March 2020, Hole's mother contacted the FBI and local authorities and warned them about her son's intent to die by suicide by cop, prompting a preliminary investigation to be opened. Hole was placed in an "immediate detention mental health temporary hold" by the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department. They seized a shotgun from him, and in April 2020, the FBI questioned Hole about unspecified items found in his bedroom. Several months after the March 2020 shotgun seizure, in July and September 2020, Hole legally bought two semi-automatic rifles which he used in the FedEx attack."
2021-04-18 23:02
Topics are hidden when running Sport mode.
gun laws don't work in america to begin with, there's your first mistake
2021-04-18 23:03
35 replies
#11
 | 
United States heakalele
yeah ur right so lets just not bother trying anything anyway
2021-04-18 23:16
30 replies
they have tried, do you not know of our country's history? ARE YOU NOT AN AMERICAN?
2021-04-18 23:17
29 replies
He’s a fake flagger
2021-04-18 23:24
4 replies
agreed
2021-04-18 23:25
3 replies
#35
 | 
France SickJDMyo
So many retards in our country just believe whatever the media tells them
2021-04-19 00:10
2 replies
At least half of the people on this planet are mentally retarded, because I refuse to believe so much dumb shit can happen without the populace also being just as stupid as the leaders.
2021-04-19 01:31
#70
 | 
United States weaboo
based frenchman
2021-04-19 02:59
#20
 | 
United States heakalele
and in the 10 years the ban was implimented shootings from semi auto rifles went down 17%? This was 17 years ago.. do you know how many millions of semi auto rifles would have been produced and sold since then? In the long term that ban would have been very effective.
2021-04-18 23:24
23 replies
When half of the country is human trash then it doesn't matter what laws you impose, they'll find ways to get a gun if they want it, criminals don't need permission or care about legality in this regard, and if they don't use guns, they'll use knives, they'll use home-made bombs instead. Suicidal people won't not become suicidal, the problem starts at the top and works it way down
2021-04-18 23:27
22 replies
#28
 | 
United States heakalele
Yeah id rather a criminal or maniac buy their outdated poorly maintained rifle from the black market at an insanely high price than a brand new rifle over the counter at a store -_- . if they don't use guns, they'll use knives, they'll use home-made bombs instead Fine dude, leave them with knives, good luck mowing down a crowd of people with moms bread knife. Bombs? Seriously dude, what does this have to do with anything?
2021-04-18 23:34
11 replies
It's reality, I'm guessing you haven't seen the recent stabbings that killed multiple people either, the people are the problem, not the guns. Weird how you haven't noticed that yet.
2021-04-18 23:49
10 replies
#31
 | 
United States heakalele
Yeah i understand but id prefer the people stab each other than shoot, its reality, not that hard to understand
2021-04-19 00:03
7 replies
Yeah well that's not gonna happen, clearly. The normal 2 killings and suicide will be around 10 now, sounds good right?
2021-04-19 01:23
6 replies
#44
 | 
United States heakalele
Jesus christ you are a moron
2021-04-19 01:55
5 replies
Putting a band-aid on exposed bone isn't my style. Stop being ignorant for once and think to solve problems at the root so that it prevents future problems from occurring. But y'know, single minded people who pretend like "banning guns = problem solved ez" isn't how it works in this country.
2021-04-19 02:09
4 replies
#59
 | 
United States heakalele
lmao your "style" is "do nothing" because apparently criminals being left to butter knives is a shit outcome. "solve problems at the root to prevent future problems". Yeah dude Bill Clinton had the nuts to do that in 94, to prevent future problems. Shootings from semi autos dropped 17% during the ban. Approx. 10 million guns are produced and sold in the US every year since 2004 when the ban was lifted. Whats that, like 160,000,000 guns? How many of those were semi automatic rifles? How many were used in a mass shooting post 2004?
2021-04-19 02:50
3 replies
I don't recall where I said the solution was "do nothing" but please quote that for me. And since I can go further into detail, we need basic healthcare for starters available to all, so they can get more mental healthchecks done, improved qualities of life so that even retail workers can make somewhat of a living, more training for police officers and anybody who wants to own a gun so they're more responsible, which in general is a consensus on making everybody happier, which in turn not only creates less situations of homicides, and crime in general, but resolves more of the problem at the root than just imposing a gun ban and calling it a fuckin day, because guess what the leaders we have now are retarded greedy fucks and they won't do anything to fix anything, and guess who keeps voting for these people? the same retards who want a better life and to have healthcare and all of these things, it's a lose-lose situation, nobody is winning, laws alone won't fix anything.
2021-04-19 02:52
2 replies
#65
 | 
United States heakalele
"When half of the country is human trash then it doesn't matter what laws you impose, they'll find ways to get a gun if they want it, criminals don't need permission or care about legality in this regard, and if they don't use guns, they'll use knives, they'll use home-made bombs instead. Suicidal people won't not become suicidal, the problem starts at the top and works it way down" translation: do nothing, knives.
2021-04-19 02:55
1 reply
"the problem starts at the top and works it way down" means that doing nothing resolves the issue. And then I explained everything more in detail in #63, then you just promptly ignored it. Congratulations. You've wasted my time. 🤡
2021-04-19 03:01
GL trying to kill 10+ people with a knife. Its easy with an AR15 tho. Remember this retard who tried to shoot up a mosque in germany? He couldn't get his hands on real guns and had to use self-made ones. The guns jammed multiple times and he only killed 2 people instead of dozens.
2021-04-19 00:06
1 reply
That's not the point I was making, people are still being murdered regardless of the action chosen here. Maybe we need a different change?
2021-04-19 01:26
No matter what laws there are people are still going to take illicit drugs, going by your logic all drugs should therefor just be legal since they can’t stop the problem anyway. In countries with gun control in place gun related crime is lower then those without it, that can only be seen as a positive
2021-04-19 01:33
9 replies
America's imposed gun laws before and It helped little, most people just don't give a shit, like they do now. Laws are interpreted as such a lot of the time, ignored and abused. But go ahead and stick your hand up my ass and move my mouth like a puppet saying "SINCE LAWS DON'T WORK THEN MAKE EVERYTHING LEGAL, MAKE RAPE LEGAL, MAKE DRUGS LEGAL, MAKE GUNS LEGAL, MAKE EVERYTHING LEGAL, THE PURGE HAS BEGUN". Other places have better control of gun related crime because they actually ENFORCE the laws. There's a big difference. SO . . . . Stfu
2021-04-19 01:38
8 replies
even if it helped little it still helped, if gun related deaths drop from 1000 to 900 then its a success because 100 people haven't died from gun related violence. also gun control doesn't mean remove guns and make them all illegal, we have gun control here in Australia but I still own guns, I just need to have a license and register them like I would a car and that system works perfectly fine. its 10x harder and more expensive to illegally buy a gun then it is to buy one from a shop and with gun laws in place meaning needing a license and background checks before being able to buy a gun will force the price of guns on the black market to go up significantly as it has in countries with gun laws making it even harder to get your hands on guns unlicensed.
2021-04-19 01:52
7 replies
America won't do that #1, they just won't, Get rid of maybe 90% of the authority figures and then it might happen. Secondly, 900 dying instead of 1000 is still a fat loss, nobody is winning here, that's insane to think that way. You're insane, 900 people just lost their lives and we're happy about it. We need people to get more mental health checks and we need better healthcare for that, you need to realize that once you fix the most basic issues then everything gets better, not just homicides.
2021-04-19 02:34
6 replies
I agree, why enact any gun control if it saves any amount of lives? What's 100 lives anyways???
2021-04-19 02:57
5 replies
DONT TOUCH MY FUCKING GUNS- I AM NOT A MAN WITHOUT THEM!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
2021-04-19 02:58
Yeah, ignore my opening statement, my ending statement and then pretend like I said something egregious, good one. gtfo
2021-04-19 02:58
3 replies
No, no I heard you. Guns are precious!!!!
2021-04-19 02:59
2 replies
lmao, cretin
2021-04-19 03:02
1 reply
Ouch, your new vocab word hurt me!
2021-04-19 03:27
#48
 | 
United States flipfone
They should have social credit score and if your social credit score is too low you can't buy any guns and if your credit is high enough you can get anything like machine guns or tanks
2021-04-19 02:23
3 replies
The recent case where a guy at fedex shot and killed 8 was a known guy dealing with suicidal tendencies and they had confiscated a shotgun from his prior and he had a mental evaluation done on him. Then he went and legally purchased 2 assault rifles easy peasy. Sometimes it's not about laws but just common sense, this country is braindead
2021-04-19 02:31
2 replies
#56
 | 
United States flipfone
His social credit score would not be very high then! Maybe China is doing something right after all!
2021-04-19 02:40
1 reply
China is doing nothing right at the moment, actually.
2021-04-19 02:40
Guns are regulated!
2021-04-18 23:04
Mentally ill guy can legally buy murder weapons? No surprise they have mass shooting every day!
2021-04-18 23:05
they've been trying gun laws for over 100 years
2021-04-18 23:05
14 replies
they tried prohibition too, look how that went. CRIMINALS DON'T CARE IF IT'S LEGAL OR NOT, THEY FIND A WAY. and, it's too late anyways, the amount of guns circulated in this country is mind fucking
2021-04-18 23:14
13 replies
Sure they do, but when it's harder to get your hands on a weapon or you have to compromise for a shitier weapon guess what happens?
2021-04-19 02:34
7 replies
less people die, which means the problem isn't fixed but the fat band-aid i put on it is looking nice
2021-04-19 02:35
6 replies
It will indeed looks nice if life are saved.
2021-04-19 02:37
5 replies
the problem needs to be fixed from the root, basic healthcare needs to be available to all, mental health check ups, more advanced training to people who take own a gun and more steps to get one. Because reality is, when you realize how braindead half of the country is, if you make their lives easier and not full of shit like it is now, then there's a much less likely chance of them committing a mass shooting.
2021-04-19 02:39
4 replies
Nothing is going to be fixed anyway, we both knows the Nra isn't going to let that happens with their cosntant lobying. Your option is the most sensible and the one that makes the most sense of course. Sadly without the other extreme counterpoint i have no idea how a compromise could be made. What a shit situation :x
2021-04-19 02:44
3 replies
There really is nothing that can be done about it, because the authority figures are the ones who don't give a shit and are greedy assholes, and the morons who want a better life are the ones voting for them!!! Unfortunately dumb people sometimes play a much worse role than they should
2021-04-19 02:48
2 replies
The older I get, the more depressed this shit makes me. Still well said.
2021-04-19 02:49
1 reply
I stopped caring because frankly speaking I don't have the power to do anything. If people can't even throw away their own trash when they're at a store and just leave it on the floor, how do I expect them to vote responsibly for leaders to improve their future and the generation thereafter. Sometimes it's just common sense, yet at least for my country we don't have that. Instead Jake Paul and Shroud are our younger generations idols, lazy people who do nothing and have achieved nothing in life except knowing how to make easy money off of neanderthals that don't know how what to do with their free time. (and money).
2021-04-19 02:57
This is this biggest problem with gun legislation in the USA. There's already too fucking many, and no amount of mass arms seizures is gonna change that -- putting aside the legality of something like that. Better to go after the underlying problems in society (drug war, poverty, mental health) than it is to cry about guns. It would be easier too. there definitely are some cases where people who should never have been able to get a gun got one anyways , these *can* be legislatively addressed.
2021-04-19 03:10
4 replies
ya, that's what I said in #55, what problems could you have if you got rid of the underlying causes of a lot of it, people are stressed out, poverty levels are high, healthcare is a JoKe, I'm sure it gets to get a lot of people mentally and they take it out on others, as unfortunate as that sounds.
2021-04-19 03:21
3 replies
Mental healthcare in the US especially is a joke. I've met people who were more traumatized by their experiences receiving "treatment" than they were by the events that actually put them there. It's tragic how bad we are at taking care of our own people
2021-04-19 03:23
2 replies
It all starts at the top, and works all the way down. Essentially, if your authority figures are braindead greedy trash, then your country will subsequently burn for it. It's been like this for a long time.
2021-04-19 03:26
1 reply
Very true. Though, I operate under the assumption that government tends to maximize the amount of greedy people in power, so a good system should be able to mitigate individuals can do. While there are certainly worse systems, the current american government is not very good at that
2021-04-19 03:30
#5
 | 
United States Phamous3k
I got a glock-19 & mossberg 930 tactical..... We like guns.
2021-04-18 23:07
6 replies
i bet you can't wait to use them
2021-04-18 23:14
1 reply
#29
 | 
United States Phamous3k
Dude, I’m got damn surgical w/ the glock. The 930 is just home defense. No birdshot though lol. I got buck & slugs.
2021-04-18 23:35
For what
2021-04-18 23:15
2 replies
#15
 | 
Europe letqpena
2021-04-18 23:17
1 reply
Glock-19 for duck hunting, ok
2021-04-18 23:18
glocks are fun asf too
2021-04-19 03:13
Hole... hehehe
2021-04-18 23:18
in america gun laws will help, but wont fix much, they have already thousend of guns from smaller pistols to fricking flame thrower, its not like poland that we never had guns and we probably never have
2021-04-18 23:30
Did he complete mental health treatment and was cleared?
2021-04-19 00:09
just NA things.
2021-04-19 01:45
1 reply
+1
2021-04-19 01:54
#45
 | 
United States tictok
so if assault rifles were illegal, he woulda just used pistols... bombs and/or knives or another weapon.. or obtained assault rifles illegally.. easily... no point to ban them
2021-04-19 02:05
3 replies
prob not bombs/knives maybe pistols, but he should've been banned from all guns
2021-04-19 02:11
Ban people with mental issue from getting their hands on them. It's harder to kill multiple people with knives seriously. And let's stop pretending all criminals can get their hands on weapon ez pz if they have a criminal past and are forbidden to do so. It would deters a lot of murders.
2021-04-19 02:48
Adding to this: Pistols are more dangerous. They're easier to hide, carry, are cheaper, and are just as capable as long rifles in most situations unless your targets are longer range/armored. The people who exclusively go after "assault rifles" really are just doing so because they're scary far
2021-04-19 03:17
Which is why we NEED universal healthcare with extensive mental health facilities.
2021-04-19 02:35
BuT wE nEeD oUr GuNs To FiGhT aGaInSt A tYrAnIcal gOvErnMeNt WiTh HuNdReD oF mIsSiLes TaNks aNd FiGhtEr JeTs.
2021-04-19 02:52
2 replies
Myanmar needed that shit
2021-04-19 03:04
The Viets rekt the US Army, and so did the Afghanis. Guerilla warfare makes all those tanks and planes useless.
2021-04-19 03:15
Login or register to add your comment to the discussion.