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SAW needs roster change
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Portugal MufT4r 
I think saw has potential to estabilish themselves has a strong t2 team and being able to make t1 teams getting a hard time while facing them, but they allways seem to be unbalanced. Almost every game there is one player that isn't playing his best, mainly on important matches. Roles on SAW are a bit fucked up and they tend to forget the principles for the T and CT side, allways overthinking, playing 1v1's all the time with no trades and having a trash economy strat, 1 player needs to go out so that we can have a player that can provide impact with awp. Stadodo can play riffle better than anyone on this team. I dont think mut is the problem because he is a good igl. rmn is the glue of the team and makes it work perfectly. When rmn is having a bad day probably saw will lose. Either JUST or Arki needs to leave just because they needed to have more impact on their roles So it leaves us with arki who plays a "lurky or supportish" role (trash role tbh) and fails to do it properly, picking up kills on trades/mistakes and not so good at using his spam to help the team. Even so he can go entry kill for sure and already proved it before. JUST is the cluch boi but inconsistent as f*ck. You never know if he is going to be able to hold sites because in one round he can be popping heads like s1mple or fail every shot like a silver. Who should go? who slould replace? Roles to be fixed? Give me your opinion pls
2021-04-19 10:43
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-arki +jw
2021-04-19 10:44
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#3
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Portugal MufT4r
that way you would have to make it hybrid in language so i dont think the answer is coms in english
2021-04-19 11:36
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#46
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Europe lil_bard
Jespinho Wecksellinho bestest portugal awp
2021-04-19 13:01
-arki +pr
2021-04-19 11:41
+fox ez major
2021-04-19 11:41
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#10
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Portugal Felders
suprises me why u dont say +jks
2021-04-19 12:09
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well thats cause saw cant afford god jks ofc
2021-04-19 14:03
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#91
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Portugal Felders
axaxaxaxaa ye true
2021-04-19 14:15
#9
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Germany flufluflu1
Tier 2??? Never
2021-04-19 12:07
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#47
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Portugal MufT4r
wdym? lol
2021-04-19 13:17
-arki +SunPayus stadodo riffler or -arki +pr full pt language
2021-04-19 12:10
just is most definitely better than arki
2021-04-19 12:11
arki is the best in the team, always give everything in the important matches, problem = portuguese
2021-04-19 12:13
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#48
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Portugal MufT4r
true he tends to step up on big matches but consistently he sucks
2021-04-19 13:18
-arki +danoco perhaps?
2021-04-19 12:14
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lul arki better
2021-04-19 12:15
2021-04-19 12:16
21 replies
kills doesn't matter
2021-04-19 12:17
12 replies
so what matters and why kick him?
2021-04-19 12:18
11 replies
maybe fix roles and in terms of skill arki is the worst.
2021-04-19 12:19
9 replies
arki have the hardest role and less skill and he makes more kills? stadodo should make 80k at least in the bo5, arki is not the problem lol
2021-04-19 12:21
8 replies
Since when is being the lurker the hardest role?
2021-04-19 12:39
Obviously he is not the problem but in terms of skill he is the worst and he will have to be crucified. SAW have 3 players untouchables, JUST, MUTiRiS and stadodo. Bring SunPayus is the best choice imo, stadodo riffler and rmn to support role, he has been support in the past.
2021-04-19 12:42
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#51
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Portugal MufT4r
rmn is better than just lol wdym with just being untouchable?
2021-04-19 13:19
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no he is not lol.
2021-04-19 13:29
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#70
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Portugal MufT4r
indeed he is. you are only looking at stats and scoreboards instead of whatching what rmn does. i mean the guy never fails to trade or support. just because he is not the cluchmeister on the team it doesn't mean he is worse than just.... lol.
2021-04-19 13:32
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it's not about stats but the consistency. rmn is the most inconsistent player in the team. JUST is better individually and makes better decisions in-game and is a fundamental anchor and a key player in the team.
2021-04-19 13:36
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#75
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Portugal MufT4r
wdym about consistency? have you seen the impact? plus he is better now on 2021 than 2020 and you cant say the same about our dear justino da purificação
2021-04-19 13:38
#30
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Portugal Fre1tasj
lurker hardest role pick one
2021-04-19 12:43
#53
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Portugal MufT4r
10-15% impact rounds and failing to succede at his role?
2021-04-19 13:21
#49
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Portugal MufT4r
why do you base your opion on 1 match?
2021-04-19 13:18
7 replies
"most important match in pt history" as you the portuguese said, and the spanish top fragger, obviously he is the problem
2021-04-19 13:22
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#56
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Portugal MufT4r
dude listen to me... just because he top fragged on this match it doesn't make him better than the others. this is not the problem. not 1 match. sunpayus would be gr8 on saw since stadodo could have more freedom to frag
2021-04-19 13:23
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so if saw had won would you throw him out too?
2021-04-19 13:25
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#59
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Portugal MufT4r
ive been saying this for ages
2021-04-19 13:26
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#61
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Portugal MufT4r
not the first time im pushing either arki or just from the team
2021-04-19 13:26
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its not going to change anything, saw get to the final w this team and fail only in the final, it will happen again if players like stadodo, mutiris, roman underperform in important matches but GL
2021-04-19 13:29
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#71
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Portugal MufT4r
yup, their midset cant fail but they need an upgrade if they want to stepup to the big guns
2021-04-19 13:33
Just is way too consistent to get kicked, even fox said in that interview that he was the best pt player right now, if anyone needs to be kicked its either rmn or arki. When you look at arki's rating its easy to pick him out but I think saw's biggest problem is rmn's inconsistency, I don't think this team is going anywhere when you have someone as inconsistent as rmn. Imo -rmn -arki and get some players from the Br scene.
2021-04-19 12:32
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#62
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Portugal MufT4r
consistent? fds
2021-04-19 13:27
#72
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Portugal MufT4r
you cant take rmn out. your igl will go crazy because you dpnt have a better supporter than rmn in iberian scene. br supports usually do brainless plays oversteping the limit of discipline
2021-04-19 13:35
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The numbers Rmn puts up sometimes are horrible, against heroic he had a fucking 0.38 rating. sure his role may be important but you can't have a player put up numbers like that if you want to succeed as a team There are a lot of gems in the Br scene id be more surprised if you couldn't find a better player than roman there
2021-04-19 15:58
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#96
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Portugal MufT4r
"against heroic" that alone should be a reason to not look at the stats. we are not aiming to be a top10 team because there is no potential for it. Look at impact in this season rmn is putting so far in 2021 and compare it to just impact.
2021-04-19 16:03
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just impact 1.02 rmn impact 1.04 now look at everything else
2021-04-19 16:11
But I doubt they will change anything
2021-04-19 12:37
WAIT WTF I THOUGHT ARKI WAS THE IGL LOL, how tf is he still on the team if he is not the IGL?????????
2021-04-19 12:40
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Magic
2021-04-19 12:42
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fr tho, he is BY FAR the worst player on the team, I'm seriously stunned by the fact that he is not the IGL with those stats...
2021-04-19 12:43
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yeah but despite his dogshit stats he is sometimes useful.
2021-04-19 12:44
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I guess I'll just have to believe you since I don't watch SAW matches that often.
2021-04-19 12:55
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Switzerland x676
he is doing everything that others don't want to do, he is the full support and is doing all the nasty roles :) before benching him rmn should be benched since he is pure rifler and has 0,98 average rating during whole 2021
2021-04-19 12:52
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From what I've seen arki is the lurker so I'm not sure about him being the "full support" but if you say so...
2021-04-19 12:56
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#63
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Portugal MufT4r
talking about ct sided support saw tends to play with rmn and arki suporting leaving the heavy duty to just, stadodo and mut
2021-04-19 13:28
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Yeah I guess that's possible, but then they have 2 support players...
2021-04-19 13:42
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#81
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Portugal MufT4r
exactly that is why they need a roster change to get a decent awper and give stadodo more freedom has rifler. he is better with a rifle than awping. roles on saw are messed up, even though they work most of the times. but against t2/t3 teams they need more firepower. a natural awper on t side and more freedom for stadodo
2021-04-19 13:55
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+1
2021-04-19 14:00
He is super important for the team, he has the worst roles and he is a really smart player, he is without a dout the worst on the team skillwise but he is far better than stats suggest, underrated imo
2021-04-19 17:34
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2021-04-19 17:35
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when he lurks it is usually a more passive style, he isn't trying to open up bombsites alone when the team is on the other side of the map, he is making sure he gets info and that the opponents don't rotate from behind
2021-04-19 17:44
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2021-04-19 17:45
saw needs disband
2021-04-19 12:42
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Colombia talking
2021-04-19 12:45
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me being from columbia doesnt change the fact saw needs disband
2021-04-19 12:46
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#65
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Portugal MufT4r
why would they disband? they have been around 1y and 4months and almost got qualified for esl pro league
2021-04-19 13:29
#32
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Portugal Fre1tasj
-arki - rmn +pr +nopeej
2021-04-19 12:43
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I don't think Nopeej wants to leave offset but if that happened it would be coisa linda
2021-04-19 12:45
#67
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Portugal MufT4r
not - rmn the guy is the glue of the team
2021-04-19 13:29
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sausol | 
Switzerland x676
As for Iberia these are their options: +dav1g (impossible, he is in Caronte) +sunpayus (impossible, he is in Caronte) +nopeej (impossible, he is in OFFSET) +kst (the most doable since Velox is trash) <----- +sausol (totally impossible, he will never go out of MAD Lions unless it is Riders or t2+) +pr he has a bad reputation afaik last option would be +slaxx but it is also impossible since he is in Caronte. Basically Caronte is not gonna break for sAw since they have really strong projection and 21 y/o average as a team, meanwhile sAw is 28 y/o average. ------ So their best option is to get people from south america; brazilian players or players like malbs, dav1d, try, meyern, luken, nikom, max, etc
2021-04-19 12:50
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SunPayus already deserves an opportunity in a good team has a lot of potential and is an awp with a good map pool. i don't think SA players come to Europe for play in tier 2/3 cs.
2021-04-19 12:53
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#42
sausol | 
Switzerland x676
why not? Premier team who is always around top30 hltv is way better than a team that is doing absolutely nothing in SA... if they come to sAw they will play higher cs than there and will be around hltv non stop. And yeah, sunpayus desevers the same opporunity stadodo had with sAw.. he almost was signed by Riders last summer, but I doubt sAw would want to move stadodo to rifler at this point.
2021-04-19 12:56
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Of course, it would be beneficial for evolution as CS players, but there are always personal issues, changes of country, few South American players have emigrated to Europe. stadodo was always a hybrid player only when it came to SAW that it became main awp.
2021-04-19 12:59
#74
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Portugal MufT4r
well if they dont want to make stadodo rifler again i think they will disband soon because they urgently need an awper
2021-04-19 13:37
#69
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Portugal MufT4r
maybe if yel gets pissed of in mibr we could get him
2021-04-19 13:30
if Caronte could replace slaxx and dav1g with Kst and Pr we could seriously see another iberian top team
2021-04-19 16:18
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wtf? xD slaxx and dav1g are 10 times better than kst and pr
2021-04-19 16:51
Take your meds please
2021-04-19 13:01
for me only players who can improve saw in iberia are mopoz and sausol and maybe alex or sunpayus
2021-04-19 13:29
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#82
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Portugal MufT4r
sunpayus is a good choice. he is allways kicking ass in ther server
2021-04-19 13:56
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he is very good and he is improving all the time
2021-04-19 14:08
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#93
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Portugal MufT4r
also he is agressive with awp and saw needs one
2021-04-19 14:17
#76
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Portugal Felders
-arki, + sunpayus -roman, + some latino like meyern (who would have a good oportunity to improve) or some portuguese like kst (idk if pr would be good, but could be a possibility)
2021-04-19 13:39
Everyone has a different opinion on who is the worst player and who should be added to the team. The reality is only they know if roster changes are needed and I bet we won't see that for a long time.
2021-04-19 13:44
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#83
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Portugal MufT4r
i think that they need to consider this and trial some stuff
2021-04-19 13:56
#79
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Portugal MGL257
-arki +fer ez major winner hahahaa jokes aside, the best would be: -arki +nopeeJ - They're both lurkers and nopeeJ can frag more and brings more fire power to the team.
2021-04-19 13:47
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#84
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Portugal MufT4r
but we need an awper so -arki -just +nopeej +yel? it would be a nice team
2021-04-19 13:57
#80
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Spain N0Love
I like how all portuguese people are saying -arki while he's the only one who steps up in those big games you talk about which are what is keeping SAW from achieving consistent t2 status. Defenitively not biased or anything
2021-04-19 13:55
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#85
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Portugal MufT4r
i get what you mean. they get too nervous on this kind of games instead of being hungry for more. (pt problms) but that is not the only problem here
2021-04-19 13:58
i dont think arki is the problem, he was the guy who performed better in the final, and support players like him are huge for the team. i wouldnt make roster changes in saw, was pretty unlucky the final
2021-04-19 14:00
-just fixing cheater
2021-04-19 14:08
-stadodo +fox
2021-04-19 14:16
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#97
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Portugal MufT4r
lol why would you remove the best rifler from saw? stadodo is the best raw aimer at the team
2021-04-19 16:03
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fox best player from Portugal
2021-04-19 16:10
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stadodo >>>>> fox
2021-04-19 16:14
#104
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Portugal H3NR
Not anymore. Plus, and it's a big plus, SAW was created because the ex-Giants core (Mut, rmn, arki) didn't want to play with fox. Surprise, surprise!
2021-04-19 16:15
#109
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Portugal MufT4r
not anymore he is the godfather of iberian cs for sure
2021-04-19 17:09
#94
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Russia inejxx
They’re not going anywhere with arki within the team.
2021-04-19 14:18
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#98
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Portugal MufT4r
idk what options they have but for sure something has to happen
2021-04-19 16:04
Give sunpayus a chanceeeee he deserves it so much
2021-04-19 16:11
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true sunpayus is fucking amazing slept on prodigy
2021-04-19 16:14
#105
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Brazil GKing
-arki +Fer
2021-04-19 16:15
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didn't fer retire ? Edit: but fer would be a perfect fit in SAW
2021-04-19 17:38
#106
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Portugal H3NR
-arki/rmn +kst It's our best option right now. But I don't think we'll make roster changes until 2022 tbh.
2021-04-19 16:16
the numbers that rmn and stadodo have shown against teams from the top 20 or higher, this year, have been ABSOLUTELY EMBARRASSING
2021-04-19 17:27
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True. I love sta but he's been a Nassional shame recently, I hope he gets good again, still remember him dropping 30 vs Faze.
2021-04-19 17:37
The team is fine like this players wise, they need to respect the opponents more, I lose count of how many rounds they lose to pistols or weak force buys every game They are struggling a bit on consistency though and I believe that rmn is one of the worst in this department, imo rmn loses man advantage and or map control too many times for free, I don't think that they need to replace him, I just think he needs to work on it
2021-04-19 17:39
this roster obviously isn't going anywhere, they've hit their ceiling long ago. they need 1 or 2 younger talents to break through
2021-04-19 17:44
rmn , if anyone.
2021-04-19 17:54
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