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BNB and O PLANO
Slugy | 
United States HUSTLENOMICS 
BNB: -Grinded hard for months without an org -Established themselves as the 2nd best tier 2 NA team without an org, could potentially be world wide tier 2-1.5 like Extra Salt -Got an EPL spot -Asks for a meager salary of 1.5k a month -Clean players -Still no org O PLANO: -Didn’t play at all the past 5 months -True skill level unknown since we never saw them play -only value is that they got Brazilian fans -prob asks for exorbitant salaries for 7+ people which along with a previously vac banned player is why they never got picked up yet -KNG involved in controversy (homophobia and death threats) -somehow manage to get picked up
2021-04-22 19:42
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life is unfair
2021-04-22 19:43
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yes, but its funny, that someone is willing to take a risk for bunch of players which are leaving, not really representing their orgs. And i would guess that they will left their org again in a year or less
2021-04-22 21:02
BnB: old washed up and neglected players with no potential, playing exclusively against tier 3-4 NA teams. O PLANO: 4 players with a lot of experience in tier1-2, one player with insane talent and was held back by a vac ban, and 1 player with not as much experience but still decent. Almost beat astralis 2-0 when they were in form
2021-04-23 11:09
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#89
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
what how are bnb washed? their average age without ptr is 21 lol
2021-04-23 11:22
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ptr and jonji are the 2 best players in that team. That should tell you enough about how terrible the rest are rofl
2021-04-23 11:27
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#94
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
whatever people like you are better off just talking into a mirror than everyone having to hear your useless opinion
2021-04-23 11:28
lol you should think about all the marketing a brazilian team gives
2021-04-22 19:43
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That’s why I mentioned the Brazilian fans
2021-04-22 19:44
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o plano got a org bcs they are better
2021-04-22 19:58
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Only virgins omega boys call KNG homophobic
2021-04-23 00:24
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+1
2021-04-23 11:45
#61
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United Kingdom OllieUK
Tier 1 team from Brazil or Tier 3 Team from NA wouldnt be as worthwhile. Also if O Plano played in NA cups online they would literally win alot of them most likely
2021-04-22 20:59
0 plano is a lot better than bnb
2021-04-22 19:43
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we dont actually know that since they havent played in 5 months
2021-04-22 19:44
You forgot the key detail: BNB literally have zero tier 1 experience ever.
2021-04-22 19:44
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Still better than a team whose biggest feat was almost beating an unprepared Astralis and then not playing a since map shortly after
2021-04-22 19:45
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#56
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Argentina macrigato
?????? They even play another tournament after Astralis match.
2021-04-22 20:27
#17
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
Jonji played against furia, liquid, EG thats deffinetly some t1 XP
2021-04-22 19:46
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yeah one player cool and the other four?
2021-04-22 19:46
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#19
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
So you agree that what you wrote in #4 is incorrect?
2021-04-22 19:47
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yeah i do, i stand corrected. My new statement: You forgot the key detail: BNB literally have 20% (not even including collective team xp) tier 1 experience ever.
2021-04-22 19:49
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#44
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
Still wrong. not to mention PTR has been pro for like 7 years and he was in some t1 tournaments.
2021-04-22 20:08
Ptr one of the most experienced pros in NA
2021-04-22 19:47
ptr lots of t1 experience
2021-04-22 19:51
ptr???
2021-04-22 20:59
of course o plano would trash bnb after 1 week of practice
2021-04-22 19:44
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also 3 guys of the team were major runners-up
2021-04-22 19:45
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+1
2021-04-23 00:34
#88
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Europe Moon_young
key word ''were'', they might as well be terrible right now
2021-04-23 11:18
#91
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
pronax top 1?
2021-04-23 11:23
#8
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Brazil batcompany
O Plano = solid top 10/NA puggers = top 30 max
2021-04-22 19:44
ok but BNB should go to T1 first don't you think that? both are good teams but you know what i'm talking about
2021-04-22 19:45
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How do you expect them to go to Europe with no org support
2021-04-22 19:57
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tbh, the only way is a small/medium org to sign them, atm idk who could possibly sign them, but who knows
2021-04-22 20:01
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Yeah idk the point of this thread they qualified for pro league somebody is going to pick them up it’s just a question of who
2021-04-22 20:24
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+1, maybe a org that we never seen in CS
2021-04-22 20:25
"-KNG involved in controversy (homophobia and death threats)" Prove it.
2021-04-22 19:45
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Or
2021-04-22 19:58
Do you actually not know? KNG, Lucas, HEN1 and two other guys were picked up by 100 Thieves in late 2017 but 100T dropped the roster before they played a single map because KNG made homophobic remarks against Thorin on twitter.
2021-04-23 11:35
#12
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Brazil Anarchybr
BNB: - played on tier 5 NA scene - no one cares O PLANO: - played against tier 1/2 EU in the same level - instantly give your org at least 80k+ viewers on any match > choose one
2021-04-22 19:45
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Fluke matches don’t count
2021-04-22 19:46
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hahahahha cry
2021-04-22 20:02
ex Winstrike too :(
2021-04-22 19:46
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The ex winstrike situation even more retarded At least bnb still unproven but ex winstrike dominating tier 2 EU rn
2021-04-22 19:47
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#45
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Ukraine Mykolkaa
Nobody wants to sign a team with 2 ruski cheaters
2021-04-22 20:09
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Flag checks out
2021-04-23 11:46
O PLANO was great.
2021-04-22 19:46
#21
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Brazil rehbobina
BNB reality: suffers to beat the paiN who until last semester played in Brazil
2021-04-22 19:47
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#23
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Brazil rehbobina
But still, they deserve an good organization
2021-04-22 19:48
#22
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
BNB good currency, made good profits from it. O PLANO haven't heard of it, does it have potential?
2021-04-22 19:47
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hahaha thought about the same. but i traded it in for safemoon
2021-04-23 00:20
bnb , whats that?
2021-04-22 19:48
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Bad News Bears
2021-04-22 19:52
#26
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Denmark Erkin1
I think orgs are scared to touch the NA scene atm, especially considering the fact that we have no idea whether their results in NA will translate to EU. Also, don't underestimate the value of the brazilian fanbase. There's a reason practically every org has started to pander to them on social media.
2021-04-22 19:49
end of the day bnb > no plano
2021-04-22 19:51
im happy and more excited about O PLANO, not gonna lie
2021-04-22 19:52
#32
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Estonia babzkL
ez4 bnb coin
2021-04-22 19:52
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ez4 safemoon
2021-04-23 00:32
#33
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Brazil tdurante
+1
2021-04-22 19:55
#34
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Mexico rauni90001
None of Bad News Bear players [with the exception of Mr. Peetah] are as experienced or achieved anything similar as to O PLANO. O PLANO are also one of the pioneers of brazilian CS and have been grinding for much longer than BNB could even exist, not to mention, they showed much more promising results on their last run and are expected to reach top 10 in the near future as well.
2021-04-22 19:59
NA in eu= tier 4
2021-04-22 19:59
and thats why the NA scene is fucked up cause it has fans like you
2021-04-22 20:02
#43
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Germany Droidd
I agree with everything you've said except the fact we've never seen O PLano play We've seen them play in flashpoint 2 and blast premier
2021-04-22 20:08
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They haven’t played for 5 months, they could’ve fallen off hard for all we know
2021-04-22 20:13
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#49
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Germany Droidd
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised but we still have seen them before
2021-04-22 20:15
Nobody would be able to consistently beat tier 2 CIS teams consistently atm anyway xD
2021-04-22 20:16
Hoes mad.
2021-04-22 20:11
yea
2021-04-22 20:11
O Plano did a great show for a team that people expected nothing on Flashpoint and Blast Premier. They have major finalists and experienced t1 players, HEN1 and KnG. They also have a huge hype among BR community which is known to bring massive viewership.
2021-04-22 20:15
respect the history of the guys on O Plano mate.
2021-04-22 20:27
8/8 Good bait my friend.
2021-04-22 20:28
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LMAO
2021-04-22 20:50
#59
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Argentina fxzo
nt o plano >>>>> bnb all day
2021-04-22 20:55
lol impressive how ez it is to bait brazilians bnb isnt even comparable to o plano, na scene is trash
2021-04-22 20:58
#64
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Portugal MGL257
some things are wrong and some things are right. In BNB you forgot to say that they're free agent, so it's ez for an org to sign them. Then for THE PLAN you said some things wrong. V$M got unbanned by Valve so he can play majors now. The other thing is that they played like 5 tournaments in the end of 2020 so you can see that they have potential to be a tier 1 team (They defeated Furia and FaZe, and almost defeated Astralis). With this, they're true skill isn't unknown at all.
2021-04-22 21:16
#65
vsm | 
Brazil kwdds
before talking shit on the internet at least search about it, o plano has been practicing every day with this line since they got out of mibr, but they're playing in brazil and how the fuck did you not see them play??? I think you should buy eyes and it's you guys that say us brazillian should stop living in the past and stop talking about the majors we won, so just forget about it
2021-04-22 21:19
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No match on hltv since December but k
2021-04-23 00:14
lmao hen1 #16 on last year top 20 alone is more valuable then all bnb players combined
2021-04-22 21:45
#68
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Europe samotzz
BNB?
2021-04-23 00:17
nice bait
2021-04-23 00:17
#71
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United States hellokappa
+1 if extra salt can beat teams like big and dignitas and bnb beat extra salt, then bnb top 5 with org
2021-04-23 00:20
#73
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Brazil AleMasox
stop cry xota fan, envyUS now is brazil
2021-04-23 00:24
Major Krakow 2017??????? Are you new in csgo bro? And if you want blame someone, blame orgs, not players, it's not their fault that any org wanted them
2021-04-23 00:28
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#79
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Australia Sify
its 2021 mate
2021-04-23 00:52
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They already prove themself on lan, something that a bunch of puggers didn't
2021-04-23 03:47
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#83
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Australia Sify
years ago yes
2021-04-23 09:06
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And last year beating astralis nuke and almost winning vertigo, but they threw, and beat faze /closed
2021-04-23 17:57
That's obviously because of HEN1. Imagine Vitality and Gambit suddenly disband their rosters. Gambit is obviously better, but Vitality will find better organisation just because of ZywOo.
2021-04-23 00:28
#78
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United States Festive_
+1
2021-04-23 00:49
0/8 don't be shitty, both teams are excellent.
2021-04-23 03:47
#82
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South Africa CRMN1
O PLANO has tier 1 experience and major finalists in their lineup. Can't recall any BNB player ever stepping on a big stage + the sponsorship from the Brazilian teams is huge and would make infinitely more money.
2021-04-23 04:00
#84
vsm | 
United Kingdom h4m
So true dude. Feel like they're only picking up KNGs squad for the fan base anyway
2021-04-23 09:23
wTf is BNB? :DDD LMAOxD
2021-04-23 09:26
Some small org will probably sign them, they have a EPL spot!
2021-04-23 11:23
yeah i mean i see where you come from but BNB is playing against shit opposition and o plano at least proved their potential somewhat in EU. also o plano has way more fans and that means more sold merch $$$ i'm sure a smaller org will sign BNB anyway, everything else would be dumb as they have an EPL spot now
2021-04-23 11:26
which org picked up O Plano? but they realistically are much better than BNB!
2021-04-23 11:31
You forgot ex- Winstrike ?
2021-04-23 11:32
Who cars, I like the name Bad News Bears anyway
2021-04-23 11:51
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