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2021-04-28 00:28
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Sadge 😢
2021-04-28 00:28
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Astralis too much boring.
2021-04-28 02:00
Nah thankfully they are finally gone
2021-04-28 00:28
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+1
2021-04-28 01:51
+1
2021-04-28 05:25
#98
Aleksib | 
Europe Pts
+1
2021-04-28 10:11
still mad about the major final Atlanta 2017? I drink ur tears
2021-04-28 10:17
#3
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Italy steven513
Astralis is down bad xaxa
2021-04-28 00:29
With all due respect, Astralis can go f*ck themselves, I'm happy not to have to watch their dreary "tactical" playstyle. Lets go NaVi!
2021-04-28 00:29
70 replies
why every1 so rude
2021-04-28 00:29
46 replies
ok im sorry
2021-04-28 00:30
Because nobody enjoys watching Astralis except their supporters. Even normal spectators are all sleeping through the games.
2021-04-28 00:30
44 replies
i disagree, i always liked to watch them play insane cs
2021-04-28 00:31
2 replies
haters gonna hate anyway.
2021-04-28 00:32
1 reply
+1
2021-04-28 00:32
"nobody" xd
2021-04-28 00:32
12 replies
only ex-astralis fans replying with a tiny tinge of sympathy left for their old team
2021-04-28 00:34
11 replies
#50
device | 
Denmark JKTP
Not really, many agreed that they didn't support the team but still liked to watch them. There will never be quite a feeling like when Ence beat astralis in blast and ruined the what 0-37 streak on nuke. The same thing happened to VP before Astralis
2021-04-28 01:06
10 replies
Well, there will always be a happy moment when a team beats Astralis, it means that these tactics are not going to control the future of high tier csgo, which i thank god it is, even though i'm atheist. Maybe I'm being too harsh, but I seriously got bored of watching Astralis no matter who they played. I can't even remember a great entry play or aggressive play from a player from Astralis, probably because they didn't need to. I wish I could enjoy that playstyle, but I couldn't.
2021-04-28 01:13
9 replies
#72
device | 
Denmark JKTP
Clearly you are overhyping their use of utility, sure they aren't S1mple but they had plenty of good rounds like the Dupreeh eco deagle ace on Overpass. That had nothing to do with util. youtube.com/watch?v=fcCF1js_LAI&ab_chann.. Astralis has changed the meta from being a pug style deathmatch to a hybrid of raw skill and tactics where it's at it's best. These tactics are echoed through every team after them, gambit is notable for being absurdly similar to Astralis but simple Indivudally mutch stronger. Everyone just copied what Astralis did. And even if you hate the team you have to give them credit for increasing the professional level and making it more competetitive. Now every team follows the astralis "Healthy Living" mentality and they have sports psychologists, top tier coaches and gym trainers.
2021-04-28 01:28
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Yes, I remember the dupreeh eco ace, it was a very good ace. I'm not saying Astralis didn't basically recreate the meta tactically. They were an insane team with very good players. I give them all the credit for that. But I couldn't enjoy what I was watching, cs wise, unfortunately. Their dominance was so great it was boring, I'm sure you can understand that. Especially where their players, as previously mentioned, did not take many risks. There didn't seem to be much personality from the players themselves. No outrageous knives or BM or general entertainment which many other teams are better known for. CS wise, they were incredible. Entertainment wise, they were meh. That's my opinion.
2021-04-28 01:35
7 replies
#96
device | 
Denmark JKTP
And you have a right to that opinion, but yeah honestly i didn't watch that mutch cs in 2018-29 so ehhhhh I guess im hypocrytical
2021-04-28 10:09
#96
device | 
Denmark JKTP
How did i end up sending the same message twice what
2021-04-28 10:10
You are so delutional into hating Astralis that you dont see how many flashy and sick plays they made throughout the years. For the top of my head: -dupreeh's: awp clutch on mirage. His deagle ace on overpass -device: clutch on Train with USP. His 2 knife kills on overpass plus many many more. -Xypex: Where do I even start? There are soo many. I guess I could make the list much much longer if I spend just 10 min on research. Astralis combined a new strategy no one had ever seen before with sick individual skill level. They made so many agressive plays with popflashes on CT side, they made so many welltimed nade kills that made them win the rounds. In my book this is just as spectacular and flashy as someone peeking corners with AWP.
2021-04-28 10:37
4 replies
And in my book, it isn't as spectacular or flashy. Device clutch in Train was quite recent wasn't it? They were basically dropping off at that point already, no? I already said Xyp9x was the guy who did the most plays in a diff post. Still not a lot.
2021-04-28 11:25
3 replies
As I said, I can name many more flashy plays, even from Magisk and glaive. You think Astralis won by holding angles, you ain't gonna win much from that alone. device have had numorous plas just ake a look at his farewel video from Astralis,. The only reason why it was boring was because they would dominate everyone with such ease.
2021-04-28 12:29
2 replies
Competitiveness keeps the entertainment in the game and keeps viewers hooked. If you weren't an Astralis fan you were essentially shrugging your shoulders and saying "the other team will lose". device rarely made entry kills and out of all the top tier awpers in my opinion he was the most boring one. Even if I said I agree with you, which I don't, they were not good for viewership of the esport because absolute dominance is actually really boring to watch unless you support that dominating team. So yeah I agree with that part.
2021-04-28 14:16
1 reply
I agree dominans is boring, but many people really liked how Astralis invented the new meta and basicly made CSGO what it is today.
2021-04-28 18:02
Low iq
2021-04-28 00:34
#23
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Denmark Yikesslol
Think anyone who has some knowledge about the game appreciated what they did for the game.
2021-04-28 00:35
16 replies
yes, they turned it into a snooze fest with their "era" where literally everyone expected them to win and there were barely any flashy plays to show for it. a very sad and boring way to leave a legacy.
2021-04-28 00:36
15 replies
#27
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Denmark Yikesslol
awww, was it boring to watch ur teams getting fucked? Feel sorry.
2021-04-28 00:41
14 replies
I don't just watch NaVi games. I like watching other games of teams I don't necessarily support, a prime example is ES vs BIG recently. But I have to say every Liquid vs Astralis matchup and the like it was not at all entertaining as a viewer.
2021-04-28 00:43
10 replies
#33
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Denmark Yikesslol
It's not Astralis fault other teams cant keep up and make it entertaining to watch, surely that's the others team fault if they get 16-5 etc...
2021-04-28 00:44
9 replies
It wasn't just that other teams couldn't keep up, but Astralis' star player was a passive awper who rarely took any risks nor did any of their other players make risks. A very good all round team that hardly made star plays and never took more risks than they needed to. Xyp9x was the most entertaining player because of his clutches, and that was it. All of these things made Astralis boring to watch at their peak, and you can't deny that.
2021-04-28 00:49
8 replies
Doesn’t matter if their playstyle was boring, they still won
2021-04-28 00:52
7 replies
Well fuck me, that wasn't the point I was making, was it? I was saying they weren't entertaining. I didn't say they were bad at all. At no point did I suggest they didn't win games or weren't good.
2021-04-28 00:53
6 replies
I know that, but people are disliking Astralis for their slow and boring ass playstyle Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
2021-04-28 00:56
#46
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Denmark Yikesslol
You said they could go fuck themselves for being calculated and not taking many risks. That is just fucking cringe.
2021-04-28 00:57
4 replies
I said that because they were boring to watch. Holy shit do you not understand this basic concept? THEY WERE BORING TO WATCH EVEN AT THEIR ERA'S PEAK. End of my whole point on this discussion. "uh uh you can't dislike them because they're so good!!1111" Before I give myself a mf'in aneurysm, being good does not equate to entertainment. That is what I'm pointing out and you should have realised that all the way back to post #7 .
2021-04-28 01:02
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#49
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Denmark Yikesslol
The thing is no one fucking cares :D
2021-04-28 01:05
2 replies
Everyone who isn't a supporter of Asstralis and tried to watch the matches from that (frankly oversaturated with csgo tournaments) era respectfully disagrees
2021-04-28 01:07
1 reply
People with IQ really liked the strategic aspect of how Astralis played, the strategic dominans could be flashy itself. But yet again, 16yrs old braindead fans just want S1mple look alike players to make noscopes.
2021-04-28 10:22
Astralis hater nothing new, cant give respect for what they give to the game.
2021-04-28 00:44
2 replies
#34
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Denmark Yikesslol
yeah, he's so delusional :DDD
2021-04-28 00:45
1 reply
Expected from woro2k fan
2021-04-28 00:46
#28
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United States poL_aris
flair, flag and name check out ROFL
2021-04-28 00:42
#52
vsm | 
Brazil kwdds
lmao you cheer for woro2bot
2021-04-28 01:11
8 replies
Your point is.. what? At least woro is more of an aggressive sniper than device will ever be.
2021-04-28 01:13
7 replies
#57
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Brazil kwdds
and what is your point??? woro is accused of cheat every five minutes, and dev won 4 fucking majors, being in top 5-3 for 5 years straight, you dont even dare compare them.
2021-04-28 01:16
5 replies
Only braindeads accuse woro + woro more entertaining than device, end of story. If woro had 4 other players carrying him like device, he would probably win even more majors.
2021-04-28 01:18
4 replies
#68
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Brazil kwdds
of course only braindeads he is bad as fuck, and honestly I prefer to watch astralis than tier 3, with his retarded play stile he will never win anything, and what part of dev has been top 5-3 for 5 straight years you didnt undertand? how the fuck he would be carried been there, I honestly just think you're retard
2021-04-28 01:24
3 replies
It's much easier to perform at the top when you have 4 other better players than you. You don't even need to push anything, just hold an angle and click once then run away. He will flop hard in NiP if his team can't suck his dick and give him free kills. Difference is Woro needs to carry his team because the players around him aren't better than him. Like I said, if they were, Woro would probably be top 3.
2021-04-28 01:28
2 replies
#74
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Brazil kwdds
i wont loose more timing discussing this with you im sure you dont know anything about cs
2021-04-28 01:32
1 reply
i like woro, but still +1
2021-04-28 08:22
and woro will never accomplish anything close to device's
2021-04-28 01:19
navi gameplan isnt entertaining either.
2021-04-28 00:31
4 replies
s1mple more fun to watch than entire astralis lineup..
2021-04-28 00:32
2 replies
yes s1mple is fun to watch but navi isnt lol
2021-04-28 00:33
10 seconds left rush any site strat hoping that s1mple or electronic get a frag entertaining :DDDDDDDD
2021-04-28 00:34
wait and bait until it's too late.
2021-04-28 05:18
navi is the most boring cs out of any team, its literally just waiting for over a minute then exec
2021-04-28 00:33
12 replies
#19
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Denmark Derige
I came to say exactly this. +1
2021-04-28 00:33
#29
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United States poL_aris
+1 not only is their playstyle boring and predictable, but also stupid
2021-04-28 00:42
I genuinely hope they change their tactics in the future, cut B1ad3 out because he's doing fuck all for the team and everyone knows it.
2021-04-28 01:03
+1 and s1mple baiting everyone
2021-04-28 01:12
7 replies
yes because almost every single russian loves navi, also s1mple brings in a ton of people because a lot of new players just heard of s1mple and want to see him play (and overall people like to watch the best player in the world) same with mibr, only top3 because brazil loves them
2021-04-28 01:24
6 replies
so the ru community the only reason of that? how about the rest of the world? there are almost no new players in cs
2021-04-28 01:26
5 replies
people love s1mple, russian community is huge, those are my 2 biggest reasons for navi viewership and also cs has a lot of new players steamdb.info/app/730/graphs/
2021-04-28 01:30
4 replies
most likely smurfs/banned players as well with the other teams like ence, scandinavian people and worst song ever those are my 2 biggest reasons for ence viewership
2021-04-28 01:33
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nope, quarantine and csgo getting more popular slowly why are you talking about ence anyway, they dont even have a big viewership lmao
2021-04-28 01:40
I genuinely can't believe that there are that many "new players". Have you seen the amount of non prime bots farming xp in MM and other gamemodes? It's absolutely insane, to the point the Watch tab often has 2 bot games at the bottom when it's morning in EU. If you play non-prime MM, you actually rarely get truly new players, it is absolutely full of smurfs and cheaters. And non-prime MM is where all these new players are gonna start playing, they won't spend their money instantly for prime. In conclusion, I think this is bull except for the influx of Asian, specifically Chinese players, which is very real.
2021-04-28 01:42
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you could be correct, but im 100% sure there are new players because of quarantine but i also really want to see the viewership for the stockholm major to see if its higher/lower than past majors :D
2021-04-28 01:57
LOL Astralis isn't gone and beside if they was it wouldn't change that there isn't any decent UK teams.
2021-04-28 01:37
2 replies
They will dip. Mark my words. Quite a comical jab at my flag, but you never know, Astralis may fall off so hard even Endpoint is better :)
2021-04-28 01:39
1 reply
They might dip, sure. But gone as some suggest I do not see that happening, that is like suggesting Man. U. will retire. As for Endpoint, let me just say I had to go look to find out who they are :-)
2021-04-29 00:30
Liking or disliking something is subjective. Don't put words in others mouths... there's a lot of people who love Astralis' style of play. Just because you dislike it, doesn't mean everyone else does too.
2021-04-28 10:16
#104
Farlig | 
Denmark AdF
Lol navi, They are so inconsisten And just generally allways dissapoint
2021-04-28 10:43
#8
ropz | 
Finland kurtits
its sad but im kind of glad its finally over, im ready for gambit era B)
2021-04-28 00:31
1 reply
+1 no doubt
2021-04-28 00:33
#9
ZywOo | 
France Jaune
lol fuck astralis, im over the stars that their dynasty finally over
2021-04-28 00:31
11 replies
flag and flair
2021-04-28 00:38
2 replies
#36
ZywOo | 
France Jaune
flag and flair
2021-04-28 00:49
1 reply
2021-04-28 01:21
#31
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United States poL_aris
xDDDDDDD fan of french cs talking
2021-04-28 00:43
1 reply
#37
ZywOo | 
France Jaune
flag
2021-04-28 00:49
Zwho fan talking, French CS with no tier 1 teams right now.
2021-04-28 00:51
3 replies
+1 astralis in a slump would crush vitality without stream sniping KEKW not a coincidence that vitality started slumping after being exposed for stream sniping
2021-04-28 01:22
1 reply
+1
2021-04-28 01:37
#87
ZywOo | 
France Jaune
flair LUL
2021-04-28 05:09
NT baguette
2021-04-28 00:53
+1
2021-04-28 01:41
well.....maybe...
2021-04-28 00:38
astralis fans are knowing what Sk fans feels
2021-04-28 00:53
3 replies
yeah, now they cant write toxic s**t everywhere without any arguments and logic finally
2021-04-28 01:23
2 replies
2 majors stfu
2021-04-28 01:48
1 reply
banana
2021-04-28 08:43
Been gone for some time, you can’t expect players to keep motivation for that long + The org fucked their players so much Dev1ce left If Dev1ce really enjoyed being in Astralis, he would’ve made it work, most likely the only reason he stayed for so long was because of the others. They could come back as a #1 contender with a good AWP, but i reckon atleast Gla1ve and Xyp9x are tired of playing, so motivation will never be the same
2021-04-28 00:59
how long have they been at the top? its normal for them to lose motivation. Glaive is a dad, Dupreeh had his tragedy, Dev1ce probably thinking about marrying in the near future, magisk find a gf, xyp9x same...
2021-04-28 01:14
1 reply
who cars?
2021-04-28 01:24
online era is so unpredictable
2021-04-28 01:17
2 replies
its very predictable if u have brain
2021-04-28 01:24
1 reply
"if you have brain" new hltv meme lets go
2021-04-28 01:27
#88
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Russia Kalacia
I, in all honestly, hated astralis and liked to see them lose. However the change still hit me hard and even though dev1ce will still be playing, it won't feel the same anymore
2021-04-28 05:11
Regardless of what happens next and even if they all retire or move teams it was a wonderful time seeing the core 3 ride all the way from DIG to TSM to their own org. Every kingdom falls one day. Only a few get to experience the glory of the top and be hated by everyone that wants to be in their shoes. One bright spot is I won't stress anymore watching them play. It is what it is.
2021-04-28 05:37
1 reply
+1
2021-04-28 08:16
na im glad devve is gone
2021-04-28 10:25
+konfig or +acor
2021-04-29 00:38
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