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United States Phamous3k 
2021-04-28 23:40
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Change to: VALORANT hit NA CS harder than we thought or want to admit
2021-04-28 23:41
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#121
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Brazil yalamix
+1
2021-04-29 01:04
*VALORANT hit gold digging NA CS harder than we thought or want to admit
2021-04-29 01:58
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+1 just majority washed t2/t3 players stealing paychecks to get smacked by EU in Iceland.
2021-04-29 04:16
#179
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India sid76820
i dont wanna say that the Indian scene was big to begin with. however with the ban of PUBG Mobile content creators are flocking towards valorant. and there are actually some of the largest tournies in Indian esports history happening for valorant when we could have done the same for CSGO.
2021-04-29 06:07
Just NA players farming money
2021-04-28 23:42
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#81
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Sri Lanka w7tv
they will all go back when the game flops and floppy will come back
2021-04-29 00:37
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#99
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United States Phamous3k
We gotta live in reality. Game isn’t going to flop. Just off NA & Asia alone.
2021-04-29 00:52
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#101
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Sri Lanka w7tv
ow yeah, won't flop like ovewatch wouldnt, like pubg wasnt going to, and like fortnite was going to destroy cs
2021-04-29 00:53
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#112
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United States Phamous3k
Well, I’ll let you believe whatever lol. OW had a 20 million dollar buyin but hey. If Val looks like OW to you then so be it lol. It’s not dying no time soon.
2021-04-29 00:58
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#124
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Sri Lanka w7tv
yes, children love cartoonish games and magic, kids will play till then die
2021-04-29 01:08
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#129
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United States Phamous3k
Of course lol
2021-04-29 01:13
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#130
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Sri Lanka w7tv
of course, game sustained by kids, aka minecraft/fortinite, won't reach the pro scenario as CSGO/LOL/DOTA did
2021-04-29 01:16
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#132
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United States Phamous3k
Dude, what kind of troll is this lol. Believe whatever you like bro.
2021-04-29 01:18
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#134
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Sri Lanka w7tv
wait two more years, the movement inside game and the gunfire is ridiculous, cs years light ahead of them
2021-04-29 01:19
He would be trolling if he didn't actually believe what he was saying. He's just deluded.
2021-04-29 02:43
not wrong, majority of the NA Val scene is just washed t2/t3 players lol.
2021-04-29 04:26
The only surprise for me was the tier1 NA players who got taken like autimatic (ik gen.g wasnt tier1 even in NA during online but he's major winner) or Ethan or floppy or xeppaa
2021-04-28 23:43
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#6
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United States Phamous3k
nitr0???
2021-04-28 23:43
7 replies
yeah sorry forgot about him
2021-04-28 23:45
#54
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North America joeS
nitr0 was a bot at the time tho man he fell off really hard. its sad he left but he was going to get cut soon anyway he was just bad
2021-04-29 00:20
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Who cares he’s better at valorant now and he’s getting 35k a month lul
2021-04-29 00:22
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#58
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North America joeS
okay but he was still a bot in CS what does money have to do with being a bot...? lmao simp much?
2021-04-29 00:23
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I’m saying who cares I don’t think anybody does, even if he was washed now at cs he’s living the life while you’re baiting users in hltv.org 😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜
2021-04-29 02:37
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#147
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North America joeS
how do you know im not living the life while baiting users in hltv.org?
2021-04-29 02:48
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Cuz ur in hltv Studies show in 2021 that hltv users have a 0% chance of having a good life outside of the internet.
2021-04-29 03:21
the only reason you think that floppy or xeppa are t1 players, is that NA has no tier 1 players apart of Twistzz Naf and Elige.
2021-04-28 23:46
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perhaps
2021-04-28 23:47
brehze is tier1 player
2021-04-28 23:54
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for the same reasons as others...
2021-04-28 23:56
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#37
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United States Phamous3k
Lol he’s not tier2. He’s just NA so, hltv puts everyone in NA at tier2/3.
2021-04-29 00:03
because they really aren't tier 1 players, in reality, but y'know. Who cars
2021-04-29 00:09
#25
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
+1
2021-04-28 23:53
#5
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Reunion Esquinox
idk if nitro and ethan are t1 players
2021-04-28 23:43
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#71
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North America 007DBR9
ethan was playing like n00b playr at the end of his time on EG
2021-04-29 00:32
Idk if xeppaa is T1 player ethan and nitro are, but you can consider they're bad T1 players I don't think so
2021-04-29 03:28
i think that no one gives a fuck about na bots leaving cs for valulrant. that's what i think
2021-04-28 23:43
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#16
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United States Phamous3k
=[ Ok. Well, enjoy our game.
2021-04-28 23:49
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but for real, the only not washed player that quitted cs were nitro and maybe autimatic even though he had no team. perhaps ethan too. it's still a pitty for na cs, but cummon
2021-04-28 23:51
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#60
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North America 007DBR9
autimatic was definately washed
2021-04-29 00:25
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super washed for years, ever since he decided to stay in c9 and rebuild 3 times while chilling in LA and getting stoned all day. could've easily joined Liquid or EG at some point.
2021-04-29 01:11
pretty sure those bots are 10 times better then u will ever be in both games.
2021-04-28 23:59
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#34
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Reunion Esquinox
doesn't make them better tho
2021-04-29 00:01
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pretty sure those bots are "10 times better then u will ever be in both games"
2021-04-29 00:02
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who cares? they are stilll worse than eu tier 2 players
2021-04-29 00:56
#61
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North America 007DBR9
you sound a little salty bro
2021-04-29 00:26
EU players are a 100 times better who cars 10 time better XD
2021-04-29 01:16
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-1
2021-04-29 01:54
still better than mixwell
2021-04-29 00:46
Dont click that its a bitcoin miner bot
2021-04-28 23:45
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#13
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United States Phamous3k
Lol. Probably right.
2021-04-28 23:48
#15
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Canada sad_face
+1
2021-04-28 23:49
thx you saved us from chinese miners
2021-04-28 23:50
#26
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
thank you so much, i almost clicked it
2021-04-28 23:54
#87
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Slovakia Daev0n
It's a minor you say? ;)
2021-04-29 00:43
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wtf Jovik
2021-04-29 01:19
other than nitro we didn't really lose anyone else relevant imo
2021-04-28 23:46
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#22
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Reunion Esquinox
nitr0 was not in top20 despite Liquid's achievements I don't consider gim tier1 (but he was relevant for a good time, more than the average player)
2021-04-28 23:51
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Valid point, I just consider nitro as the biggest loss because he was part of TL's success back then in 2019ish
2021-04-29 00:07
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#48
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Reunion Esquinox
yeah it's easy to underrate him because his teammates went high in top20
2021-04-29 00:09
The only thing that suffered is the NA scene and even that is probably a short-term issue. Just need to wait until new NA players come into the scene along with new orgs when LANs return.
2021-04-28 23:49
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#18
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Canada sad_face
same hope as trump in 2024
2021-04-28 23:49
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trump was a garbage president.
2021-04-29 01:54
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you're delusional
2021-04-29 03:51
4 replies
Not really..
2021-04-29 04:02
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definitely are lol. its ok
2021-04-29 04:03
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Says the guy shit posting on hltv..hop off my nuts already.
2021-04-29 04:08
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Really can't fix stupid can you?
2021-04-29 04:17
"valorant hit cs harder than we thought..." *tier2 irrelevant players as headline* lmaoooo valorant ain't done shit to cs or just only good cos it made several teams better or ended their suffering -floppy -> ex-c9 core could finally achieve something in Extra Salt actually I can't think of any other moves that were somewhat "relevant" because nobody ever cared about players like tenz or wardell, not even mixwell nitr0 was already washed and holding TL back by the time he switched steel had no future cos of Valve ex-Chaos... let's be real they weren't going anywhere
2021-04-28 23:50
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#20
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Canada sad_face
> lmaoooo valorant ain't done shit to cs by hltv experts, meanwhile valorant overpassed csgo in NA by a mile already
2021-04-28 23:51
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explain what harm did it cause to counter strike global offensive " valorant overpassed csgo in NA by a mile already" yeah but NA was forever irrelevant in csgo
2021-04-28 23:51
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#32
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United States Phamous3k
Extra Salt literally just got 2nd place I mean... We not that irrelevant lol. Also, the EU v NA rivalry is legendary in any sport. I’ll say this... Losing an entire continent especially a very wealthy one isn’t good for nobody. NA Orgs bring investors who bring $$$ which brings in sponsors etc etc. It’s not like the CSGO Albanian scene is dying we actually provide a ton of support to any scene.
2021-04-29 00:01
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ok but we lost irrelevant players not orgs yeah technically we lost orgs but it's their fault that they made shitty investments, buying trash players and expecting top 2 finishes at S-tier events they would've left csgo anyway (c9 best example) NA didn't really have much talent anyway and the ones that deserved recognition have already ended up on decent teams if you're playing CS in NA you are better off becoming a content creator instead of grinding in shitty leagues filled with cheaters
2021-04-29 00:05
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#46
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United States Phamous3k
“ok but we lost irrelevant players not orgs yeah technically we lost orgs...” Lol... Great way to start off the convo. But yeah, I just think losing NA could only hurt the esport.... And I know the rest of the world think NA trash lol.
2021-04-29 00:08
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most orgs almost never have players from the same country as the one they operate in so who cares really?
2021-04-29 00:16
What is going to happen down the road if Na can't manage to stay near the top of valorant?
2021-04-29 00:27
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#73
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North America 007DBR9
NA will cri
2021-04-29 00:33
#65
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North America 007DBR9
not in csgo NA is actually less healthy than south america in csgo lmfao
2021-04-29 00:28
Yeah just like C9 and EG beating EU team right? ES success signify less about 'NA can beat EU' but more about smaller orgs with hungry players will outperform giant orgs with unmotivated star players. It's not too different with story of VP winning Flashpoint or ex-Winstrike beating EG or Triumph beating Liquid. CS is competitive right now that big fat orgs is the last thing I'm waiting for. I would rather see Triumph or BNB competing with other EU team rather than C9 making another juggernaut but losing against T3 EU and CIS team.
2021-04-29 00:28
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#123
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Brazil yalamix
+1
2021-04-29 01:08
Sadge but true
2021-04-28 23:58
True, most csgo players are chinese probably, its DED
2021-04-29 00:02
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#75
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North America 007DBR9
china only has around 20% of the player base in mm
2021-04-29 00:35
#64
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Argentina cheapdeed
valorant hit NA csgo hard than we thought or want to admit*
2021-04-29 00:28
lmao valve brought this on themselves. csgo is basically 60% cheaters rn, even people with tons of skins and thousands of hours cheat, this game is dead af, valve does nothing to stop it, not to mention they care more about skins update than actual game experience related ones. i was against valorant but tbh im switching.
2021-04-29 00:29
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how dumb are you?
2021-04-29 03:45
#79
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Sri Lanka w7tv
fake news as fake org of your flags
2021-04-29 00:37
well also we didnt know a large amount of the NA scene was match fixing plus Valve would make no major updates
2021-04-29 00:38
It hit harder in NA than in EU, CSGO in EU is still as strong as ever.
2021-04-29 00:38
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#90
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United States Phamous3k
Well, it hit hard to whatever was left of the Asian scene. China & Mongolia still holding CS down though.
2021-04-29 00:47
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#126
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Brazil yalamix
True, especially in Korea and Japan
2021-04-29 01:10
#171
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North America 007DBR9
tbh there was no korean or japanese cs anyways, they got the game late so never actually invested time into it ngl most asian countries are awful at fps's
2021-04-29 04:42
#86
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Sweden st4rkiNNgo
valve needs to bring a serously new ranksystem of elo, such an bullshit in faceit lvl 5 plays like gold nova 4 in mm... there cant be something normal...
2021-04-29 00:40
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#172
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North America 007DBR9
Yeah the mm system is fucked unironically novas are worse than lots of high silvers are least in NA
2021-04-29 04:42
lol name at least 1 relevant cs player that switched to valorant, you literally cant cuz its all tier3 NA bots or washed up rejects
2021-04-29 00:45
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nitr0 floppy xeppaa steel autimatic skadoodle
2021-04-29 00:47
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i said relevant nitr0 = lol dead since 2019 floppy = OMEGALUL never even reached tier1 xeppa = OMEGALUL never even reached tier1 steel = dirty matchfixer
2021-04-29 00:48
HAHAHHA AUTIMATIC AND SKADOODLE i mean not that i expected anything better from kobruh_top1_2021, but this is next level delusion. enjoy recon5 disband btw
2021-04-29 00:49
4 replies
2/8
2021-04-29 00:56
3 replies
skadoodle was relevant when? maybe 2017-2018
2021-04-29 00:56
2 replies
you said RELEVANT so i gave you relevant players
2021-04-29 00:57
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but he isnt relevant, nor are the other ones u mentioned
2021-04-29 00:58
#173
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North America 007DBR9
nitr0 washed floppy slightly above na average xeppaa lmao steel matchfixer and washed, did good stuff in the lower level of na but still not relevant autimatic washed af skadoodle washed af
2021-04-29 04:44
#93
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United States Phamous3k
Outside of NA???? Jamppi.
2021-04-29 00:48
16 replies
nt cheater
2021-04-29 00:48
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#97
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United States Phamous3k
Lol. Ohh the troll haha. If Jamppi switches back hltv will have a full on celebration. Stop it. Btw, he’s in the EMEA finals in Valorant & Riots anticheat caught nothing lol. No word.exe for Jamppi.
2021-04-29 00:51
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what troll? hes literally a cheater > If Jamppi switches back hltv will have a full on celebration yeah cuz hltv is full of ppl who are like kobruh_top1_2021 thinking nitro or xeppa are relevant players, or supporting cheaters lmao what a thing to be proud of
2021-04-29 00:52
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#103
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United States Phamous3k
Lol the troll. Valve said he can play so, I’m not going shit on the kid for life for something he may or may not have done at age 14. Good try though.
2021-04-29 00:56
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yes valve said he can play cuz they lifted off old vacs, not because he wasnt cheating. keep crying, whats next ur gonna say kqly wasnt cheating?
2021-04-29 00:57
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#115
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United States Phamous3k
Haha Jamppi is a great player. Deal with it kid.
2021-04-29 01:00
2 replies
doesnt change a fact hes a cheater
2021-04-29 01:00
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#119
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United States Phamous3k
Jamppi >>>>>
2021-04-29 01:01
ye ofc they caught nothing why would he cheat in valorant after being a known cheater in cs? wtf are u even talking about lol
2021-04-29 00:53
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#106
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United States Phamous3k
Dude your trolling is shit lol. Do better
2021-04-29 00:57
6 replies
no just ur level of common sense is below 0
2021-04-29 00:57
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#114
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United States Phamous3k
Haha ohhh trolls getting dumber by the minute on here.
2021-04-29 00:59
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is calling any message "a troll" ur defense mechanism or smth? typical from someone who has nothing to say, also flag lol
2021-04-29 01:00
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#118
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United States Phamous3k
Haha you’re a troll from Nepal. End of story. I’m guessing your next move is to have the last word huh lol.
2021-04-29 01:01
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sad that u dont have enough imagination for coming up with smth better
2021-04-29 01:04
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#122
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United States Phamous3k
Ok troll. Thanks for playing lol.
2021-04-29 01:04
floppy
2021-04-29 00:58
1 reply
but floppy is tier3 player who couldnt achieve anything with c9 cuz it was dead project before they even got together
2021-04-29 00:59
#125
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Netherlands kibitz-
only in NA, thats must be underlined
2021-04-29 01:09
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#144
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Poland yanzie
+1
2021-04-29 02:00
NA players milking money from orgs that are only in it because of Riot
2021-04-29 01:11
No, Corona hit CSGO harder than Valorant
2021-04-29 01:22
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#174
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North America 007DBR9
+1111
2021-04-29 04:45
+1337
2021-04-29 06:08
Just wait until Astralis disbands and moves to Valorant
2021-04-29 01:33
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#138
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United States Phamous3k
Lol. No. They might get a Val team when leagues start but, I can’t see the CSGO disband. It’ll be one crazzzzyyy day if that happens though. Hltv meltdown.
2021-04-29 01:54
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appetently they are losing money so eventually they will have to leave
2021-04-29 01:45
written by a silver 1 that probably doesn't know what a "major" is
2021-04-29 04:18
4 replies
Been to every single NA Major and one outside of the states. Made FPLC. Coached MDL. Sorry to burst that bubble.
2021-04-29 04:28
#175
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North America 007DBR9
wtf my friends in silver 1 know what a major is
2021-04-29 04:45
2 replies
Well they're better than the reporter already
2021-04-29 04:56
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Should I repeat that the "reporter" has been to every single NA Major and one outside of the states. Made FPLC. Coached MDL. Commentated ECS, MDL, and DreamHack?
2021-04-29 04:58
Oh noooo, NA scene is gone from CS... Wait that's something good
2021-04-29 04:35
Csgo is kinda repetitive. I dont see any reason some tier1 player not moving to valorant
2021-04-29 05:56
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