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Console wars settled
Viking | 
Sweden Barbarozza 
Xbox Series X: Backwards compatibility all generations (60-120 FPS) Xbox Game Pass Better hardware More robust console and controller Controller more comfortable Quiet, sounds smooth Cheaper PS5: Backwards compatibilty for limited amount of games (PS4 only) Worse hardware Console is ugly, too plastic Controller extremely poor quality, uncomfortable (has better triggers) Very loud, makes bad sounds. Has more exclusives More expensive PS5 = Rip-off
2021-05-04 01:47
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PC > both Settled
2021-05-04 01:48
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True, but *3-4 the price for similar performance.
2021-05-04 01:50
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True but consoles are selling under market value so it's not really a scam to buy a pc
2021-05-04 01:57
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Games are cheaper on PC, that is where consoles earn their money. I personally have $1,200 PC and Xbox Series X but console is more worth it with less budget imo.
2021-05-04 01:59
thats a hard cap
2021-05-04 10:29
+1
2021-05-04 01:48
ratchet and clank > console
2021-05-04 01:48
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Ratchet and Clank now on Xbox))
2021-05-04 01:49
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United States Phamous3k
Lol... No way.
2021-05-04 02:39
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Yeah, N. Sane Trilogy have all games remastered and the newer ones are also on there.
2021-05-04 09:42
console wars settled pc is better than all of them
2021-05-04 01:50
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2021-05-04 01:50
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at reduced resolution and graphical settings you might achieve the same FPS as a PC
2021-05-04 01:53
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CoD: BOCW = 120 FPS, 4K, RayTracing, Ultra Settings, HDR10+ Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla = 60 FPS, 4K, RayTracing coming soon, Ultra Graphics, HDR10+. Are you stuck in 2012?
2021-05-04 01:57
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cod engine you can play on potatoes with good fps let alone anything, valhalla is the epitome of patches for 8 months to increase framerate, even a 3090 wasn't getting 60 fps on launch, ur stuck in 1932
2021-05-04 02:06
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Fact resistance. I won’t stop you, but you’re wrong. Series X IS equivalent to RTX 2070. That is simply how it is.
2021-05-04 02:12
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And you're still payin about 600$ if you're lucky, At retail prices you can build a 2070 rig doin some of the same shit you kno but now we have gpu shortages most likely till the end of 2022, and everybody is sad, cause for starters xbox series x wasn't able to do any of this shit when it first released
2021-05-04 02:14
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If you buy 2070 with other shitty parts, bottleneck from hell... According to my calculations, $600 is a lot less than $2,000.
2021-05-04 02:16
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lol, for 2000 you can easily buy a 2080ti rig a few years back, i don't know what you're on about
2021-05-04 02:17
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I’m referring to Swedish market.
2021-05-04 02:18
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That sounds like an important thing to mention does it not
2021-05-04 02:19
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Obvioudly, because it seems you can get a 2080 Ti rig for <2,000 when i can’t get a 2070 rig for same price. It’s very expensive here.
2021-05-04 02:20
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Then consoles make more sense for you, before the massive GPU shortage in america we could make do with 1000 and have a very nice computer, but now it's harder
2021-05-04 02:21
true, but PC > consoles consoles are indeed very well optimized, thats why theyre much cheaper/better quality for the price, but with a PC you could pay +200 but save that and more on games, you get literally an unlimited amount of games and other things to do. also, consoles are for mouthbreather kids, nothing to argue about there
2021-05-04 02:21
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This is just wrong. I own a PS5 as well as a PC, and 80% of the time the console version of a game I want is cheaper. Not only that but I can actually sell my games. Which saves me tons of money and allows me to buy them at launch rather than have to wait months for a sale.
2021-05-04 02:50
KFConsole is the far superior STFU
2021-05-04 01:52
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Sorry i missed this one. Far more superior than all platforms.
2021-05-04 01:52
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Say it. I n c l u d i n g P C .
2021-05-04 01:53
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Yes sir, including PC and NASA computer.
2021-05-04 01:56
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*Full Palpatine mode* Goooooood-ah.
2021-05-04 01:58
The senate will decide your fate
2021-05-04 10:31
#9
nitr0 | 
United States Zake_
PS2 Backwards compat. with PS1 games best selling console of all time GOAT games PS2=GOAT
2021-05-04 01:52
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XBox > PS1, PS2 Xbox 360 > PS3 PS4 > Xbox One Xbox One X > PS4 Pro Xbox Series X > PS5 /closed
2021-05-04 01:54
Who needs an Xbox when you can play all on PC with game pass. Go with PC and PS5
2021-05-04 01:53
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#6 If not, they will lag.
2021-05-04 01:57
who cares they all cost 7000 reais, like 1200 dollars, thats 7 minimum wages but at least xbox has the series s which is around 2700 reais btw FUCK TAXES HOLY SHIT
2021-05-04 01:59
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WTF is going on in Brazil i wonder??? In Sweden, Series X cost me $650 and we have high taxes.
2021-05-04 02:01
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at least in sweden the governament do a great job with taxes , in brazil they stole like 50%
2021-05-04 02:06
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But i thought Bolsonaro hate taxes? Wtf men...
2021-05-04 02:09
#23
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Canada JC_123
only point to buy a console is its exclusive games, beyond that PC is the only reasonable place to buy a game.
2021-05-04 02:04
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2021-05-04 02:05
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#27
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Canada JC_123
I mean yeah for 1 year and then we'll have new hardware at non-insane prices. Admittedly even if shit were at msrp the consoles would represent a good value until about a year from now. You would basically need an RTX 2080 or RTX 3060 to match a PS5, both of those are not cheap (yet).
2021-05-04 02:09
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Yeah but the GPU itself is much more expensive than the whole console. You also need CPU and RAM. I don’t think you’ll get a similar PC for any less than $1,5k in the next few years.
2021-05-04 02:11
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Canada JC_123
that's what I said mens. It will be about a year before PC will be the better value again (disregarding everything except hardware performance for the money). As it stands, (assuming MSRP), an equivalent PC here would cost like >$300 CAD more! Crazy times.
2021-05-04 02:15
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I don’t know about Canada, but in Sweden a 2070 right now costs >$600. We have very expensive parts here.
2021-05-04 02:18
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Be thankful for that price, here the cheapest USED one costs about ~900$ :) If I were to get a brand new 2060!! from a store, it'd be around 1100$.
2021-05-04 03:03
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Canada JC_123
yeah again see "(assuming msrp)". I'm basically estimating a decent RTX 3060 build here.
2021-05-04 16:50
#30
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Chile jaestar
ps5 will also have discord, which in the future it might be a big reason why people get it
2021-05-04 02:11
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The whole meaning of Discord on PS5 is to talk cross-platform. If it isn’t on Xbox, might as well use PS5 party chat.
2021-05-04 02:13
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#35
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Chile jaestar
pc and mobile also exist
2021-05-04 02:16
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ah yes lets play csgo with my console and mobile buddy
2021-05-04 10:34
Like comparing garbage to trash.
2021-05-04 02:17
PS2 > all
2021-05-04 02:18
It was never a war. MS was officially too far gone as soon as they showcased that 2014 looking halo infinite that still isn’t even out lmfao. The PS5 will have 4 next-gen system sellers by the end of 2021, where as the Xbox will still have 0. It’s over. Sony will dominate the generation like always but clearly this time even more.
2021-05-04 02:53
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What are you smoking my dude? PS fans want to make the generation about games and games only. That is literally the one thing that PS did better, everything else that matters they totally fucked up with. PS5 will sell more because of popularity but y’all are getting ripped off. And tbh i don’t think Sony makes better games. They make more games, but so many of them no one cares about and half of them are like movies where you just press a button now and then. Halo, Gears of War, Forza, Hellblade are all very good games, what did PS5 have, Spider-Man?
2021-05-04 09:49
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What kind of cope was that? Jesus Christ. We both know Sony exclusives win GOTY every year. Games literally make up a platform, which is reflected In sales. Imagine bringing up washed up poop franchises like gears of war and fucking forza against the massive and continuing lineup of critically acclaimed Sony masterpieces lmfao.
2021-05-04 17:16
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That’s your take. In my world, these titles are very relevant, probably same for all Xbox users. Meanwhile, i couldn’t give a shit about these ”critically acclaimed Sony masterpieces” that you refer to. What are they called btw? And no, PS games are not awarded GOTY every year, far from it. PS exclusives have been awarded only a small fraction of GOTY awards since 1998. And it depends on who you ask, maybe they all won the Sony GOTY Award. Xbox has been getting a lot of PS exclusives recently, PS has got 0 Xbox exclusives on their platform. In the future PS might be utrerly useless.
2021-05-04 17:31
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No one buys an Xbox for the “exclusives”. People buy them to play fortnite and cod. Those who want to experience the highest rated games of the generation will obviously go for a PlayStation, and it has always been that way. If you enjoy mediocre garbage like Gears of war and hellblade then that’s fine. Your subjective low standards are irrelevant in an argument though.
2021-05-04 17:40
PS5 good games Xbox trash games If I were to buy a console I'd rather play Bloodborne and about 5 more interesting exclusives than whatever xbox has, about 20 car games?
2021-05-04 09:52
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Halo Gears of War Forza Hellblade ...and more These series hold a much better quality than whatever PS has, Little Big Planet and movies where u can press some buttons?
2021-05-04 10:15
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Some of these are avaible on PC bruh
2021-05-04 10:37
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Do you play your PC games on a 4K HDR10+ TV? Do you think everyone can afford a PC equivalent to the Series X or PS5?
2021-05-04 10:42
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If you can have a kickass TV and newest console, you can have a decent PC aswell. Which is obviously more useful and superior. So Xbox exclusives are not even exlusive at all. It's all opinion, but they only reason I'd but a console is for exclusives which are far superior on PS
2021-05-04 11:18
The fact you can emulate any old console with premium optimization is pret-ty good.
2021-05-04 09:57
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I can’t be the only one who wants to re-play my old games from time to time. Xbox gives most game full support and enhance them with 4K and 60 FPS. This works for many Xbox 360 and Xbox One games. You can also play almost all XBox, Xbox 360 and Xbox One games on the Series X, on PS5 only a select few un-enhanced PS4 games can be played.
2021-05-04 10:17
the differnce is, most people in eu play on ps, All my friends have or had ps. Much larger player base on most games
2021-05-04 10:20
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That is also a problem, and i don’t know why. People are too lazy to research and actually get an objective opinion on which one is better. But i guess if you bought a PS4, which was better at the time then it probably makes more sense to buy a PS5 even though it is not the better console this generation.
2021-05-04 10:24
cs or die
2021-05-04 10:24
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+1 lol
2021-05-04 10:36
Have a hard time believing Xbox is more robust or better hardware in the long run, not sure Microsoft has ever made hardware that didn't slow down into a piece of shit after a couple of years, think you've been fooled by the fact it's early days!
2021-05-04 10:28
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I think you should look up the specs. They are identical except the Xbox has a better GPU specifically created for it, 12 Teraflops vs Playstations ~10. The controller feels very solid, no sounds come from it when you try to twist it and it feels like such great quality. The console is stable and has the same feeling. Playstation 5 on the other hand, the sticks start to malfunction after a few hours of usage, it’s ugly and uncomfortable and not nearly as solid as the Xbox controller. I’ve actually tried it. The one thing better about the PS5 controller are the triggers. The console also makes weird sounds when reading disks or loading games. Look it up on YouTube. Xbox is always quiet and very, very smooth. No weird sounds.
2021-05-04 10:39
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I'm not talking about specs out of the box, what I'm talking about is their hardware, which regardless of spec, *tends* to turns to shit over time, for reasons I do not know, but I've see it too many times, whether an xbox, zune or a surface. For example my current Xbox One takes literally about 2+ minutes to turn on (literally, timed it) - it's a longer time than you'd think when you're sat waiting! My PS4 (they're both as old) turns on as quickly as the day I first got it more or less - that's not me championing PS in general, just the facts of my existing consoles. Better hardware on paper isn't always better (look at Macs; historically often a lower spec than the same money could buy of a windows laptop however they *tend* to last far longer).
2021-05-04 10:48
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Yeah the Xbox One was a big flop. Mine also went like that, but the specs in the Xbox One was radically different from the PS4. I don't think the hardware will be the problem this time, for example the PS5 and Xbox Series X have literally the same CPU, The Xbox 360 wasn't radically different from the PS3, so this was a new thing with the Xbox One. I think it was a one-time failure. I guess we'll see, but the Xbox Series X does have an advantage in games with more stable frame rates because of the hardware.
2021-05-04 10:52
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Was just checking out a review of both hardware, and this is just an extraction of course but I couldn't help but notice this: "First: Sony’s ambitious claims about the PS5’s load times aren’t exaggerated, as far as I can tell. Assassin’s Creed Valhalla went from the main menu into the game in less than a minute; fast travel took less than 10 seconds from point to point. However, while the Xbox Series X took longer to load the game initially (almost a minute), fast travel time was exactly the same. Gameplay-wise, if you handed me an ambiguous controller and put either the PS5 or Xbox Series X version of Assassin’s Creed Valhalla on a screen in front of me, I honestly wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. Both systems ran the game at 4K at 60 frames per second (although I understand that the 4K is probably upscaled in both cases), and neither one seemed to have any major difference in animation fluidity, lighting, etc." According to this chap, on this game at least there's no discernible difference in the visuals or performance of the game despite Xbox's better hardware, however PS5 has quicker load times despite being on lesser hardware - so already that's raising red flags for me, those slower load times are going to get worse to the point of being annoyingly slow load times in a couple of years no doubt if history is anything to go by.
2021-05-04 10:57
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The only thing better about the PS5 is the SSD, which is NVMe, hence the loading times. On paper, Xbox Series X does deliver better frames but ofc this is marginal. Where the PS5 would drop to 100 FPS in Black Ops because of an explosion etc, the Xbox stays at 120 pretty strong.
2021-05-04 10:58
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Yeh, at those rates though I'm guessing that's nothing more than a number, and generally not noticeable - plus developers very rarely take full advantage of console hardware in it's entirety, so I imagine any games playable on both will just be a similar experience, so I'll take those load times!
2021-05-04 11:07
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You are free to do so, still so many other things that makes the Series X superior like Game Pass, Backwards Compatibility, Game Enhancing etc.
2021-05-04 11:11
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To be perfectly honest I'm not in a rush to buy either right now having said all that! I just liked to play devil's advocate mainly :D.
2021-05-04 11:13
Most people(myself included) would buy a console just for the exclusives, so more exclusives is a big point in ps5's favor
2021-05-04 10:36
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If you grew up with Halo then those exclusives would appeal to you. Anyway, the exclusives are a small fraction of the games, i’d rather be able to play non-exclusives on cross-platform and get better performance.
2021-05-04 10:40
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The non exclusives I can play on pc so I don't care for those tbh
2021-05-04 10:41
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I don’t think everyone has a $2,000 PC and a PS5.
2021-05-04 10:44
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Well Im talking about my own experience
2021-05-04 10:45
#76
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United States Americah!
Sega dreamcast >>>>> gaystation 5 and xbOMEGALULx series x
2021-05-04 10:59
both are ripoffs because theyre basically just pcs in boxes with gimped operating systems. the last real console generation was the x360 / ps3
2021-05-04 10:59
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A casual gamer will not buy a PC equivalent because it’s more expensive. This is literally 50% of the comments on this post, i don’t think we need to hear it one more time.
2021-05-04 11:02
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its not though, i can build a pc with basically similar performance for similar money. some games will run better, some a bit worse. dont forget these consoles today struggle to keep 60fps in most games.
2021-05-04 11:04
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No man. The current console can be compred to a RTX 2070 build, the GPU alone is more than both consoles. It sounds like you are stuck in 2013 tbh. The consoles easily play the games in 4K with HDR10+ and RayTracing stable at 60 FPS.
2021-05-04 11:08
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in what world can current console gen hold a candle to an rtx2070 lmao they cant even run console games on 60fps
2021-05-04 11:07
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They can though lmao. Why are you arguing if you have 0 knowledge about either console.
2021-05-04 11:08
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show me one occasion where these consoles outperform an rtx2070 in a cross platform game that is decently optimized on pc oh and make sure they didnt cheat by lowering the draw distance etc on console. same settings.
2021-05-04 11:13
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CoD: BOCW - 120 FPS, 4K, HDR10+, RayTracing, Ultra Graphics AC: Valhalla - 60 FPS, 4K, HDR10+, RayTracing to come, Ultra Graphics Now compare to RTX 2070 on same resolution, with HDR10+ and RayTracing on with highest settings.
2021-05-04 11:14
obviously if devs make lazy console ports and dont put any effort in then yeah console can run certain games better but thats a different discussion than the hardware
2021-05-04 11:11
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This level of coping is truly pathetic.
2021-05-04 21:06
#78
Zeus | 
Ukraine Najara
XsX - no games PS5 ez winner PC only for low IQ, cheaters and poor people
2021-05-04 11:02
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Go take IQ test
2021-05-04 11:02
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#92
Zeus | 
Ukraine Najara
I have 200 IQ I am Mensa member
2021-05-04 13:30
ps3 was the best, controller was the best ever. nowadays consoles look more like entertainment futuristic boxes (they aren't pure consoles anymore anyway) ps3 + bf3.. good times
2021-05-04 17:44
sexbox>anything sony could dream of creating
2021-05-04 17:45
Do people seriously still care about which console the superior one is? Jesus
2021-05-04 21:08
Literally posts majority opinions and says the issue is settled. Nice argument 👌
2021-05-04 21:52
PC + PS5 are the only platforms worth owning. + a switch for on the go. Xbox has 0 place in the ecosystem.
2021-05-04 21:59
#103
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Yugoslavia Khmzbg
I own only a PC for gaming but if in the future if I had to buy one I would buy a Xbox, only because i had xbox 360 when i was younger and it was an amazing experience.
2021-05-04 22:04
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