Ofc car is a waste of money, i actually prefer T90-M, or kind of Abrams, Mercava is good but too expenisve
I mean if you just got a decent job, its most likely not that close to your home.
You prob live in in the middle of some big city idk
Required for work. But if it wasn't I'd probably get rid of it.
Bicycle superior mode of transport
true! just walk like me man
americans dont have that, trains are slower than cars there, bike lanes are rare, obv not planes, many areas dont have uber or the metro
Volvo would not approve this thread!
because, the car industry brainwashed them with car ads on television and cool posters, when they were about 3-5 years old, and impressionable. so they will gladly work the rest of their lives to pay the car industry. they are slaves and they dont even realize it
its good to go around randomly and explore shit
its good for doing shit, moving things etc
probably some other stuff too
who tf wants to take a Uber/taxi/bus/metro/bike/tramway to get somewhere
agree, people drink the kool-aid on cars so hard
it's pretty useful if you live in a village/small city without public transport
I have a company car so I'm not paying for any of that shit but even if I didn't I'd still buy a car because of how easy it is to get everywhere on your own time without relying on others.
i need a car for my hobby :)
Good for shopping, going out of the city/traveling, settling your things when you need to be in a few places quickly + it's a must have if you have kids. Otherwise it's pretty useless.
I lost thousands of euros on repairs and shit... if cars doesnt make any profit, its waste of money. The worse thing is that I need car every day
I agree if you live in a city
2nd hand cheap one is ok.
Main thing is that buying cars brand new is stupid and renting should be done more. But yes poor people owning cars makes 0 sense.
totally depends on where you live.
I don't have much of a choice.
I have a luxury suv but I don't use it during workdays. I bought it just to go out on weekends with my family. Even two days in a week, still I need a car for my family.
If u have a family then u kinda need a car but if you live alone and live close to your job then no reason to have one I guess
And people are a waste of oxygen, yet we're still here.
Obviosly its waste of money, but human mind is made like, (i have to have a car,family, blabla ) some own car because he needs to be a cool guy, depends of person
get a car, you will undestand
my car has costed me 30,96 euro according to the todays google conversion rates, im fine
I never got a driver's license and will never drive a car. Forces me to live in a city but that's the way I like it. I don't want to pollute and destroy nature anymore than I have to.
Ofc it's waste for people who don't need it or enjoy it. I enjoy driving, and look forward to buy one when I can afford it.
I'm not the type who will pay monthly instalments for 5 years or more on a new car.
Because public transportation don't go everywhere I want to go or distance is so long that I don't want to cycle there and there's always loud idiots in public transport alongside the fact that it's slower
Conclusion only poor and crazy people use public transport alongside smelly elders
flag checks out. Im living in Germany and bought a new car last year. The car will be paid in 2 years so it depends where you live mens. I know i russia you have to work 20 years for a new car.
required for work and its also comfortable, however i dont own my car. company does.
Agree and disagree. You can get a car for very very cheap and be okay financially. With this car you can do stuff like visiting other places (plus driving is fun) or you need it to drive to work. Problem i have and many others is buying a too expensive car. My Audi A5 was 27k which was too much for me.
Imagine still using cars when you can save lots of money using E-bikes lmfao
I guess depends on where and how you live. Doesn't make sense in a small city, where shops and work are easy to get to. But the bigger the distances the more important car becomes.
p.s. also car gives you complete freedom to go wherever you want whenever you want. Something that opens so many more opportunities.
Living in rural areas you just need a car. Work, groceries, doctor, etc. literally nothing within a few kilometers.
is this a status/bragging thing? -Yes, partly
You actually need to own a car to understand.
The feeling of freedom a car gives you is amazing. You can go anywhere you want, any time you want.
Also, having some private space, especially during covid makes your life easier.
I live in America with shit ghetto ass public transportation
Plus I have money
It's an investment in more freedom and timesaving
Time=money - so save time and you save money
car one of must dumb purchase you can make, it loses half value in first year with most cars, as a kid i thought cars are cool now i only look at it as waste of money.
I'm living in Canada rn, I literally can't go anywhere without a car. Also, I have enough money for a car. (Or, my parents do lmao)
because i can go get mcdonalds whenver i want. umad kid?
its a bit of a status symbol although practically its different. You dont need a car when you live in London but probably need it if you live in the suburbs or something
If you live in the countryside cars become mandatory in a big city they can be a financial burden that isn’t worth it
Idk man, i only use flying mats or bike.
I have to travel 20 km to attend school. 2 buses go by each day. We don't have uber in finland. Taxis are expensive for daily basis. I live in countryside there is no metro or railway. Yes I need my car. I don't need expensive car I just need car that can move me from place A to B. That's why.
in USA you pretty much need a car, even extremely poor people have cars, albeit bad ones
exceptions are areas with good public transport systems like NYC or D.C., but they are few and far between
because when u drive a good car it feels 1000x times much better than if u are staying in the overcrowded sweaty bus in 6am?
there isn't great public transport a lot of places so then having a car makes a lot of sense, there might legit be no way to get your work place with public transport without using way too much time, we already have not enough freetime so I'd surely get a car was I wasting way too much for travel only for not having one. I gotta say though, if u live in big city with good public transport, you do not really need one yes. I guess people just like to drive rather than take public transport and car can be status symbol like watch on your wrist xd.
I are agree, i live in center of big city, i wouldnt want a car even for free lol
Firstly, you should not consider the car only as a vehicle.This, for example, affects your communication with girls sometimes.
Secondly, you should not extrapolate your understanding of "more comfortable" to all people. Perhaps this is 1000 times more comfortable to drive their own car for them, thus completely covering the inconvenience of paying debts.
Third, they can follow tradition. If 3 generations of family traveled by personal transport, then let it be 4.
Heard that if u dont have a car in us, ure probably a handicap
i am living in upper silesian agglomeration, 3,5km away from work, bus every 10 minutes, but it's impossible to live without car for me,i cant imagine myself going by bus there, also it is literally the best way to relax, night rides in a fast car and loud music are the best thing imo.
Hey wanna meet right now? Yeah sure
ok ill pick you up instead of waiting for a bus and meetin in the middle of nowhere
You can also get girls on cars and fuck in a car too, very practical! Obviously people who get first car they dont have money for instead of saving them are dumb and its their fault, but if you work hard and get money and buy car afterwards when you can afford it, whats the problem?
i live 15km from my work, as chef barman in an hotel i go 2x a day to work, i have a 2years old daughter, need to put and get her at babysister and i have no transports where i live... solutions ?
Uber is not financially viable in western countries for middle class. Not even upper middle class. 20 minute drive or so will cost you 30€+
Because I like cars & driving, not because I absolutely need it. Otherwise I would spend my money elsewhere.
privacy, emergency and comfort. its enough
Did you ever consider that there are people living outside of the city?
I like driving
Its more comfortable
What about Electric car recharging with Solar panels? that's my plan! :D
I hope to get the electric volvo xc40 (coming soon to us) or maybe bmw i3 ( we don't have many options here in South Africa)
PS: Hope everyone reading has a great week further! <3
brother some people just love cars their are theyre passion
When you grow up and get kids then you will understand
wouldnt generalize it. theres a lot of people who are in need of a car nbe it that public transport sucks in their area or whatnot..
the main problem is that too many people own cars but use them barely. and they take a lot of space.
people should make their cars more accesible for other in their neighborhood. like a private car sharing. i sure do so with mine. works like a charm. and i get a bit on the side for repairs and shit.
in USA if u dont have car u will find yourself in hard situation because the closest grocery shop is far from your home,work is far etc.In most US cities there is NO sidewalk people to use!
In EU city network is perfectly made for pedestrians you can have a short walk and go to the grocery shop,work etc.We have perfect local transport system so we can take bus/at least/ if we want.In big cities we have perfect metropoliten system.We have sidewalks people can use.
To summarize : USA u need a car
in EU u dont need a car
Cus nothing else compares with driving your own car. It's also a man's pleasure. Taxi? Expensive. Public transport? Too slow & too many people around. Bike? Kinda slow too, doesn't feel as comfortable and gets you tired.
The main reason why i have a car - independence. I decide for myself from where and when i move out and do it with comfort with a speed that i chose, with no sweaty mens)) and crazy old womens
2nd reason - i earn about 40% of my salary for using my own car and don't spend money on gasoline
3rd reason - i live alone with no bf\gf, cats, dogs etc. and my car is member of my family, i don't regret to spend money to car maintenance and to make it more comfortable
4th reason - i just like to drive
People who have cars but cannot afford to maintain them are idiots . However , if you have the money and saving cars are the best things . You do not buy a car to invest because every km you lose money , you buy them because they are fun af ( rainy night drive is the best sensation in the world ) and for a lot of people are part of their family . I own 2 cars right now and my goal is to own at least 100
A car is always a bad investment but a needed one
yes, it's a sign of low iq generally when you see middle or low class people waste all of their money on expensive cars instead of investing them. I'd much rather have a 2k euro used car than a 15k brand new one, it'll have the same functions for me
I live roughly about a 3-4 hr walk, or 40 min bike ride from the nearest actual town. I only have a nearby party store, and no public transportation. That's why I own a car.
Edit: We also have no Uber/Lyft and the nearest taxi service would cost nearly 200 just to get it to come to my house
I see a lot of Europeans not understanding why the U.S uses so many cars in this thread, and from my experience it is generally because they don't understand the size difference between European countries and the US. The size makes it logistically extremely difficult especially in non coastal areas. Everything is so spread out and shops/supermarkets are all spread out and located in areas that are highly inconvenient for pedestrians.
would be nice to pick up over 60kg of different tools into bus every morning
My poor car is gathering dust since March 2020
I feel like there are a lot of points to be made here and thus i will make some. A lot of people need their car for everyday stuff like getting groceries and going to work, some areas and cities lack proper public transportation which basically means that these people have no choice but to get a car. You also have the fact that having a car is a great freedom, you can go wherever whenever and you don't have to worry about your train being late or waiting 20 minutes in the cold for the next bus to come. It is also important to note that not everything that loses value is a waste of money. In my opinion, if something makes you happy then the waste is justified since happiness and being happy is so important for one's well being. As a car enthusiast I might be biased but spending money on cars is something that I will always do and yeah, finacially I would probably be better of buying stocks or something but the thing is that stocks lack the roar of a V8.
If they didn't have a car, you wouldn't have Uber.
ok and i want to waste my money on a car. anyone got problems with that?
Not everyone lives in the city. Also uber
1. is your avg car owner driving people around
2. Costs more than the gas cost if you have your own car. And if you have to drive to work everyday it costs less and is 100000x more reliable than hoping a user can drive you 30 minutes to your job at the right times.
I usually hang on the back of a bus when i go to school. I dont have to buy a ticket and its fun
Life is hell in the US without a car. In the flyover states you basically need one.
Depends on your city ofc. My city is not too big and its quite easy to bike here. However we have a shit ton of snow here like half a year so its hell to bike, but i do it anyways. But i understand ppl that take the car instead.
I live in a pretty sparsely populated area. No public transportation besides the school bus that didn't even go to the same school as me. If you want to do anything here, you need a car.
depends where u live mens
Modern cars are designed by marketologists to look cool and attract people not to be reliable. Even new car will always have some issues and you need to invest tons of money to repair this things
it's less about a car being a waste of money than people thinking they can afford the car when they can't
maintenance cost can be expensive indeed
but yeah in many european cities a car is useless
Hltv humiliating itself once more.....
I live in a City and the distance to my workplace is 16km. If i use Public Transport it takes 1 hour. So 2 Hours every day. If i drive with a car it takes me 12 minutes, so ~30 minutes per day if you take bad weather or traffic jams into consideration.
Thats 7,5 hours a week, 30 hours a month of travel time i save. Those are the 30 hours i can use to go to the gym, play games, meet people or work on my home etc.
I have an old Volvo V70, when i break down those 30 hours + cost of a monthly ticket for Public Transport vs the cost of the car(petro, tax, insurance, etc.) i pay maybe 5€ extra per hour of free time i get from it. I gladly do that and enjoy my life instead of sitting in a tram all day.
It depends heavily on where you work wether or not public transport is viable or not, even in a city . And in my case its really bad(change trams 2x with distance between stations, use a bike to get from tram station to actual work place 2km). If its a 5 station distance ofcourse a car makes no sense.
You also have the freedom to move stuff(yourself, others, things) whenever, wherever you want for a low cost. The car itself is not the problem, the mentally of having to "Show off" "the best, the newest, the coolest" car or whatever is a problem. same with phones or other "useful" stuff, it has to match the intended use for the lowest cost in as many regards as possible.