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Russia DlMlTRl 
I don't understand why many people own a car. When I look at all my friends almost everyone owns a car and they are not doing great financially. Like what do you even use a car for ? Going out ? You have an Uber/taxi/bus/metro/bike/tramway for that. Travelling somewhere ? Take a plane/bus/train. Going to work ? choose between Uber/bus/metro/bike/tramway. So why do you even need a car ? why many people go in debt just to get a car, is this a status/bragging thing ? don't forget that the car engine doesn't only work to move you but also to move the whole car (which is a big waste of energy and a major cause of pollution).
2021-05-04 08:44
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2021-05-04 08:44
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Oh yah
2021-05-04 13:59
Ofc car is a waste of money, i actually prefer T90-M, or kind of Abrams, Mercava is good but too expenisve
2021-05-04 08:45
12 replies
flag checks out
2021-05-04 08:52
Leopard is much better
2021-05-04 10:04
kkkkkk flag
2021-05-04 10:56
1 reply
lul
2021-05-04 11:01
To be honest if I could drive a tank on the road I would.
2021-05-04 11:27
1 reply
everyone would)
2021-05-04 11:31
Send us some t90`s our puppet president is buying junk from america at 300% the price xDDD
2021-05-04 11:31
3 replies
I don't know you, but you still managed to disappoint me
2021-05-04 11:34
2 replies
Explain ?
2021-05-04 11:35
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Romania is using more or less the same kind of weaponry as many european states and the US. If that was all "junk", everyone would've have stopped buying it before Romania did.
2021-05-04 11:39
merkava kinda sucks good tech but poor design
2021-05-04 12:26
#283
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Portugal cyn1cal
I like kamaz
2021-05-04 12:44
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Estonia cyanize
Nice try Ted Kaczynski.
2021-05-04 08:46
3 replies
:DDDD
2021-05-04 08:48
#212
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Indonesia segopecel
yes, why we even need internet?
2021-05-04 11:05
#325
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Germany N4ime
+1111111111111111111
2021-05-05 15:17
I mean if you just got a decent job, its most likely not that close to your home. You prob live in in the middle of some big city idk
2021-05-04 08:46
9 replies
The best thing for me is "You have an Uber/taxi/bus/metro/bike/tramway for that" Ah yeh cos that wouldnt be ridiculously expensive over a period of time
2021-05-04 10:35
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France Poloqua
uber taxi would be but the rest is so cheap u know ?
2021-05-04 10:45
7 replies
Yeh but unless you can get a rail ticket you will pay so much for train/bus/tram
2021-05-04 10:46
6 replies
Here not .... the taxi is like 0.40/50 E per Km in my city atleast ... in the capital is who much the driver is asking u =))
2021-05-04 11:32
5 replies
A taxi home from the club cost me £10 which is 2 miles
2021-05-04 11:49
4 replies
scared of 2 miles? cringe
2021-05-04 21:30
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My point was if you worked arount 5 miles away which isnt uncommon then youre paying around £25 each way so £50 a day. A week thats £250 so it soon adds up
2021-05-04 21:47
2 replies
its unlikely that someone would rather that over sharing a car or taking a bus
2021-05-05 02:16
1 reply
At that point just get your own car... problem solved
2021-05-05 12:14
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Austria eights
Required for work. But if it wasn't I'd probably get rid of it.
2021-05-04 08:48
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Estonia crunchyroll
I have a lego ferrari
2021-05-04 08:49
agreed tho,
2021-05-04 08:50
2 replies
Porsche, ferrari, lambo, all are waste of money, volvo is the only choice
2021-05-04 09:16
1 reply
+1 really smart mens))
2021-05-04 09:19
Bicycle superior mode of transport
2021-05-04 08:50
8 replies
especially when equipped with an electric motor
2021-05-04 08:52
5 replies
Especially when it rains outside
2021-05-04 09:32
4 replies
waterproof raincoat :)
2021-05-04 09:36
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Albania HLTV_God
I like nonwaterproof raincoats
2021-05-04 10:18
2 replies
good one :D i was wondering whether i should put "waterproof" in there or not
2021-05-04 10:21
gottem
2021-05-04 11:30
+1
2021-05-04 08:53
+1
2021-05-04 13:01
true! just walk like me man
2021-05-04 08:50
americans dont have that, trains are slower than cars there, bike lanes are rare, obv not planes, many areas dont have uber or the metro
2021-05-04 08:51
23 replies
yes because the car industry and oil lobby stops every attempt to set up decent bike infrastructure or public transport lol
2021-05-04 08:53
18 replies
It has nothing to do with it. USA is sparsely populated than Europe. Everything is too far apart. Having a car there is a must. Also using your own car is much better. You can go anywhere you want. You dont have to waste time waiting at stops. Using bike or some other means from time to time is nice but having a car is having a car.
2021-05-04 11:31
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right but now imagine if those people somehow collectively, as a community, took action to change that. if they stopped investing in cars and started investing in public transport that will take anyone anywhere without having to waste time. they like elon musk right? why doesnt he do something useful about that problem, instead of making electric cars and jerking off to hyperloop designs and crashing rockets.
2021-05-04 11:34
6 replies
Isnt like one of the features of starship to hop between places like planes do and thus shorten time from flying 20+ hours to 30m? Building public transport is not as easy as you think it is. There is a lot of problems with that. Cars will always be more convieniet, especially if you need to get to places where public transport is not possible in sustainable mannor. Big cities with public transport sure, anything else nope.
2021-05-04 11:37
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but cars and roads also cost a lot of money. like there arent a lot of places in europe where it isnt worth it to have public transport instead of cars. maybe some very unpopulated areas like some regions in northern france and central spain. basically the entire coastline of europe could be one public transport network because there are towns and cities every other kilometer, and then there are lines through central europe as well. the EU is spending billions every year already to develop this network. railways, canals, roads. and the goal is to offload as much transport of goods and people from the congested roads to alternate forms of travel where there is unused capacity, primarily the inland canals and railways. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-European_Tra.. this will be applied not just to cargo transport but also to public transport of people, and eventually in more and more places it will become a waste of money to have a car to get around because you dont need it. it will be easier to have stuff delivered to your house via this network, or travel on it.
2021-05-04 11:44
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We own a property that is few kilometres away from my place. If I want to ge there I could go with public transport and it wouldnt be a problem but bus stop is very far away from where I want to go. Sometimes I also need things I need to use there and transporting these is not possible through public tranport or it would be very inconvenient. Or when I want to go with my grandmother to a doctor I don't see how I would get her there through public transport because she has problems with her legs. Sure if I want to move inside city to get to work or when I went to school. I would just walk or take a bus because its alright. Maybe a taxi during night hours. But outside of cities I dont see transportation being good enough to not have a need to own a car.
2021-05-04 12:06
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public transport should be handicap accessible, modern standards in netherlands have the train floors at equal height to the platform so wheelchairs or people who have trouble walking can get in easily. thats actually another advantage of public transport, its more accessible for all kinds of disabled people than cars are. if you are blind or deaf or have one leg its hard to drive but you can take public transport. the issue is the chicken and egg issue; if public transport isnt widely available and convenient to use, people wont use it and there wont be demand for it. if a bus stopped closer to where you wanted to go, or there were buses that pick people up and drop them off at their destination instead of having fixed routes, maybe you would take it.
2021-05-04 12:09
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Problem is not getting into bus itself. Problem is getting to a bus station. Its not that far for normal person but when she barely walks and cant walk long distances its a problem. Yes you can take taxi but its several times more expensive. And if you dont have fixed routes then you have a problem with getting your bus where he needs to be on exact time. You cant fix these problems unless you have a global system where you can track all your cars. In this systempeople wouldnt even have to own a car. Just say when you want to go somewhere and when you want to leave and you would get a car come to you when you want it. This way gevernment would be able to track you.
2021-05-04 12:23
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but the idea of bus station is oldfashioned. with gps and a dense public transport network, wherever you are can be a bus station.
2021-05-04 13:48
they could set up a network of self driving buses and minivans or use some form of car sharing, have it run as a non profit.
2021-05-04 11:36
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I dont think self driving is possible unless all cars are part of the global system that can handle all cars where they can all be tracked so there are no unexpected events that would result in accidents (like when tesla car crashed because it didnt expect crashed car on the road). Global system would also really improve traffic since it could plan routes according to other traffic. But system like this is way into the future.
2021-05-04 11:42
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they dont need to be tracked. easier to use swarm intelligence. like birds. equip every car with technology to maintain distance from the cars around it, then you can already automate all the travel on the higways with a couple laser sensors and a very basic computer system that costs a couple bucks and can be installed on any car. this would eliminate most traffic jams because it would allow all the cars to pull up at the same time. off the highways its a bit more complicated because you have pedestrians crossing roads etc and road signs so you need some AI but those systems are already at the point where they cause less accidents than human drivers so they can be implemented on large scale with current state of technology and it would save lives.
2021-05-04 11:47
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I dont think swarm intelligence is enough. If you are going fast doesnt matter what you have around when you cant brake fast enough if something unexpected happens on the road. Also you need to track where you going. Global system would make sure you have exact place where you want to stop. It would eliminate traffic jams because it could plan every single move that car will have to make. Maybe on the small scale its possible but if you want it on very large scale you need everyone to have it. You wouldnt also need that much police because if all cars are controlled then it would be almost impossible for car accidents to occur.
2021-05-04 11:58
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if the car in front sees some obstacle, it can signal the car behind and they can propagate the signal. that would cause less accidents than current system of human drivers who can only see the 2-3 cars in front of them. the road can have some simple indicators, a radio signal that says where the next exit is and which lane to sort into. all the car has to do is stay in the right lane and avoid hitting things. a global system would create a lot of problems, like privacy issues, tracking by governments and private companies. also, what if the chinese hack it using their huawei backdoors in all the wireless systems, and shut down all our cars? for me as a computer programmer such a system sounds like a dystopian nightmare, like something from science fiction. you dont need such a system to have safe selfdriving cars.
2021-05-04 12:02
of course governments are going to say we need this kind of system because of criminals or terrorists or safety etc but from a technical point of view its completely unnecessary, they just want to be able to track everyone.
2021-05-04 12:04
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I also hate government tracking people but this can be fixed easilly. There would be only tracking license plates. You wouldnt know ho is inside the car. You would only know owner of it like you do now.
2021-05-04 12:10
and the cars already have gps with route planning so they already have the computer system to know where to go, all you would need to do is enter a destination in the gps like you do already
2021-05-04 12:05
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Construction works or changed traffic for some other reason dont account for this everytime. Global system would also track this.
2021-05-04 12:08
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current gps systems already get updates about traffic jams and construction
2021-05-04 12:14
i agree, they have their reasons! but for the rest of us in the other countries we have far better options
2021-05-04 08:56
Do you guys have any idea of how big the states are? Its bigger than whole europe. I have to drive 134 km to get to my job. No bus does that under an hour and a half. I could take the train, cus i'm lucky enough to have a train close enough, but i still need the car to get there, pay for the parking, then get into the train, then take the metro then take the bus. It cost way much more. Not everyone lives in big cities and all of them are at a minimum of 200km appart. I totally agree with you that if you live in the city or close to one, having a car is mostly useless. Also having a car helps you with moving out or go camping or travel accross the country which is something we americans like to do a lot. Pickup trucks for heavy loads and construction equipment needed for our wooden houses ;) One thing is sure thought, there are too much car and too many people that dont properly know how to drive.
2021-05-04 09:15
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164 commute seems a bit long, considered moving? or changing job?
2021-05-04 11:31
my whole country is 200km at best and there are plenty of people with similar commutes to yours lol. especially if you take traffic into account. unless you live in LA, its probably worse here. its just a matter of time before traffic in the usa also becomes congested to the point that public transport becomes a viable alternative.
2021-05-04 11:50
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Europe robo1234
Volvo would not approve this thread!
2021-05-04 08:51
because, the car industry brainwashed them with car ads on television and cool posters, when they were about 3-5 years old, and impressionable. so they will gladly work the rest of their lives to pay the car industry. they are slaves and they dont even realize it
2021-05-04 08:53
2 replies
+1
2021-05-04 08:58
true, and thats probably accurate for most products ngl
2021-05-04 21:32
1 word confort
2021-05-04 08:52
its good to go around randomly and explore shit its good for doing shit, moving things etc probably some other stuff too
2021-05-04 08:53
50 replies
never got why americans like road trips in their cars so much. you sit still and press gas pedal. go for a bike ride or a walk, its healthier and youre interacting with your environment more
2021-05-04 08:59
49 replies
well I'm like you but it's good to go see some valley or sunset every now and then
2021-05-04 09:04
1 reply
i just listen to kyuss when i feel like that
2021-05-04 09:07
Bike ride? How can you even compare those two? With a car few of you can get to another city 200km away in 2 hrs full of energy to explore it by foot, with your spare clothes and stuff brought with you. On the other hand, after having cycled 100km on hilly terrain the only thing you'd like to explore is the nearest bed. Not counting literal pain in the ass if the roads aren't great.
2021-05-04 09:13
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why would i want to drive 200km? thats 2 hours of my life sitting in a car looking at a straight highway ahead of me. i will never get time back. instead, i can get on my bike right now and cycle 100km, in the 4 hours it would take you to drive those 200km back and forth, and have half a day left to do other stuff. btw the pain in the ass goes away if you cycle every day for about a week
2021-05-04 09:15
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Because humanity haven't discovered teleportation yet, so the only way to explore new places is moving your ass over great distances.
2021-05-04 09:21
36 replies
no its not, you have a fucking internet connection. youre using it right now. you can use it to travel at about 2/3 of lightspeed. 200.000km/s
2021-05-04 09:22
35 replies
And wanking is a great sex replacement. Yeah.
2021-05-04 09:23
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yes, thats generally why one does it. whats your point here buddy? because if your point is that you need to burn 25 liters of gasoline to go to a slightly different foresty bit of transsylvania to feel alive, my argument would be that youre better off doing something to improve your life instead of spending hours sitting in cars trying to get away from the place you live.
2021-05-04 09:25
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I wrote about some new city, not forestry. If i wanted to leave the city for some time in the woods why would i travel 200 km?
2021-05-04 09:27
31 replies
who the fuck cares about city trips, are you a girl
2021-05-04 09:29
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Who cars about the forests? Greta Thunberg, is that you?
2021-05-04 09:30
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im autistic and angry and i care about the environment so yeah basically
2021-05-04 09:31
28 replies
Well, you live in the Netherlands, so it's not that bad either.
2021-05-04 09:32
27 replies
wdym?
2021-05-04 09:32
26 replies
It's a developed country with a decent economy. So you take many things for granted meanwhile people in other countries struggle to afford them.
2021-05-04 09:34
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trust me, we have struggled, and achieved, the struggle is the fun part. after that its just a bunch of entitled rich kids who forget the ways of their fathers.
2021-05-04 09:35
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If the average salary is 100 bucks it's not a struggle, it's an endless misery. You don't know what you're talking about (thank god).
2021-05-04 09:41
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i work in IT so i could make a lot of money working remote for foreign companies and profit from your much lower cost of living. there are a lot of people in ukraine doing this. russians, western expats. the average salary will go up in ukraine. in netherlands, adjusted for cost of living, its going down since 40 years. this is not a country with real growth for working people. the growth is only for the capitalists who own everything.
2021-05-04 09:50
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I'm not talking about Ukraine. We could be making it better, but we're far far away from misery.
2021-05-04 09:53
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what are you talking about then
2021-05-04 09:54
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I'm saying that living in a developed country is an advantage. You instead started arguing that advantage is not really an advantage, and developed is not really developed. Honestly, you sound like a typical "bored and spoiled by welfare" person.
2021-05-04 10:26
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well im living here but its no fun, everybody is mindless materialist consumerist soulless husk of a person, they work and then they party and get drunk and buy more crap on amazon. nothing interesting ever happens. its not really living.
2021-05-04 10:37
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why would you care about others? don't like consumerism? please, establish a dog shelter or volunteer as a nurse at a hospice. as i said the majority of the westerners are spoiled and bored because of their wealthiness, so they start inventing problems where they don't exist. and the next day they'll wanna try socialism because you know: "we're so soulless and materialistic". as if something is holding them by force from starting doing something useful.
2021-05-04 10:46
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i would like to have some more socialism yeah, we had a lot of socialist policies in the 60s and 70s and they were removed at the same time when all the public utilities were privatised and big money got into politics. this is symptom of corruption.
2021-05-04 10:48
but youre right, i am bored with sitting here and being wealthy. that doesnt mean im inventing problems. i simply have the means and the security to worry about more than my own immediate survival.
2021-05-04 10:49
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still you're whining and doing nothing so it barely matters.
2021-05-04 10:50
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what do you want me to do, get on a soapbox and go preach to my countrymen about their wicked ways and tell them to repent and live good lives in harmony with nature and each other instead of acting like fucking parasites? they dont wanna hear it lol. some guy tried that shit 2000 years ago and they crucified him you know.
2021-05-04 10:51
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lmao, no stop whining, get your shit together and start changing world for the better by your work, not "preaching". because 99,9% of preachers are charlatans and spongers by themselves.
2021-05-04 10:54
8 replies
there is no meaningful change i can create by myself surrounded by 18 million people who dont give a shit about anything except themselves.
2021-05-04 10:55
anything i try to do will either result in A) failure or B) me becoming part of the capitalist machine that i oppose so yeah thanks for the advice but i'll just sit here and whine.
2021-05-04 10:57
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yeah, caring about an abandoned animal will make you a part of a capitalist machine. and 18 million people that care only about themselves is a nice excuse for sitting on your ass doing nothing. can't even think of more miserable view on life.
2021-05-04 11:03
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lol theres an animal shelter in my town. i adopted a cat from there. but i cant adopt every animal. and people will keep leaving them there. the shelter is always in need of more money. the municipality doesnt give a fuck. people dont give a fuck. i can fight symptoms but i cant fix humanity my dude. i cant make everybody get their cats neutered.
2021-05-04 11:05
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changing humanity is the most stupid idea that could ever come to anyone's mind. if the municipality doesn't give a fuck start donating regularly by yourself. because all you say sound more and more like an excuse for doing nothing. instead of lighting one candle you keep cursing the darkness with absolutely zero impact.
2021-05-04 11:10
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donating money just puts me at a disadvantage compared to the antisocial retards who dont give a fuck
2021-05-04 11:11
and it doesnt fix the problem either
2021-05-04 11:12
1 reply
you're worthless
2021-05-04 11:13
100$ salary but the cost of living is also low
2021-05-04 09:54
2 replies
not true, since the absolute majority of goods are imported. and if your wage covers only food and shelter that's exactly what misery is by the standards of 21st century.
2021-05-04 10:28
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that's life i guess, nobody is equal and it always have been like this (even way worse). millions have died in the hands of some crazies trying to create 'equality' that doesn't exist, the best thing governments can do (like in developed countries) is afford real equal opportunities for all people and hold responsible corrupt politicians, there will always be poor people for different reasons.
2021-05-04 11:29
the only thing our developed economy does these days is shuffle money back and forth between a couple accounts owned by a couple rich people. a country like yours with actual growing purchase power for working people is much more pleasant to live in. if there wasnt a war on, i wouldnt mind moving to ukraine. fuck at this point id rather live in china than in netherlands. corrupt shit country.
2021-05-04 09:37
+1
2021-05-04 11:32
netherlands highways stronk and very naice B) always wanna travel on them!
2021-05-04 21:35
traveling to a place far away doesnt automatically make that place more interesting than whichever place you were already at, you know.
2021-05-04 09:16
driving is fun and relaxing driving a bicycle is not
2021-05-04 10:06
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yes it is? you get to breathe the fresh air, feel some wind, sun on your face, you get some exercise, it makes you feel good. sitting in a car makes me feel bored and they usually smell bad.
2021-05-04 10:08
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driving a bicycle is basically torture and cars dont usually smell bad lol
2021-05-04 10:09
2 replies
sounds like ur just lazy, i thought bikes were popular in finland and you have a healthy body and mindset
2021-05-04 10:16
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idk how popular bikes are in finland but i used to drive a bike to school every day and i never liked it and probably never will
2021-05-04 10:18
biking is so relaxing! if it can be in a country like NL then it should definitely also be relaxing in Finland with way more nature. I have had so many great trips! and only in a limited part of the country! i can have so many more...
2021-05-04 21:37
who tf wants to take a Uber/taxi/bus/metro/bike/tramway to get somewhere
2021-05-04 08:55
38 replies
dutch people?
2021-05-04 09:31
3 replies
so non dutch people have to take Uber/taxi/bus/metro/bike/tramway too?
2021-05-04 09:50
2 replies
yes
2021-05-04 09:51
1 reply
ok time to sell my car
2021-05-04 10:04
people who like saving money? with the money i save by not owning a car, i can pay for a lot of bus rides. also convenient, you dont need to remember your car keys, you can get drunk whenever you want, theres always someone ready to pick you up, you never have to travel alone.
2021-05-04 09:34
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then take the bus, and others can take whatever they want
2021-05-04 09:52
16 replies
if climate change didnt exist i would agree with you
2021-05-04 09:54
15 replies
Have you seen The % of CO2 that comes from personal cars on the big chart?
2021-05-04 09:56
12 replies
yes. its a lot more than is used by heating our houses. and yet governments in europe are putting billions into transitioning off fossil fuels for that, while they are continuing to subsidize production of petrol cars and electric cars, which are still bad for the environment. electric car only saves about half the emissions of a petrol car if you take into account the production and transport of the vehicle and the batteries that need to be replaced every 10 years or so. it would save way more co2, to stop using personal cars and make public transport (trains running on green electricity, hydrogen powered buses, etc) freely available for everyone in europe, instead of doing the things we are currently doing to reduce co2 emissions.
2021-05-04 10:03
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Making public transport free is expensive and will not get a majority of people to switch as its a pain in the ass and alot of work places would require you to walk several kilometers from the bus stop.
2021-05-04 10:26
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well if everybody takes the bus then there can be more bus routes and more bus stops or the bus can simply drop everyone off at work in the morning
2021-05-04 10:27
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If everyone takes the bus for free then the gov would have to pay for the busses with tax money, not only that but to probably increase the amounts of busses by X5 or something. All that while no longer getting money through fuel tax. I dont know man... Seems like pretty extreme measures to lower the worlds pollution by like 0.001% or whatever finlands contribution is
2021-05-04 10:34
besides that the other obvious thing to do is to invest in making the industry in third world countries less polluting by just giving them the carbon filters etc that they need, for free, and installing those on their factories.
2021-05-04 10:04
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Dude its gona be real hard to get the third world to stop polluting. They got bigger problems, like starvation. How toi gona tell some kid in africa not to throw trash in the sea
2021-05-04 10:17
2 replies
we can stop sending all our plastic garbage to burn pits in africa, that would be a start. then, when we cant get rid of our trash, we will find a way to actually recycle or biodegrade it, or even better, stop producing it.
2021-05-04 10:18
1 reply
Agree
2021-05-04 10:35
The biggest pollutors dont seem to give a shit, india and china will probably never do. Therefor i shall not either.
2021-05-04 10:18
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india and china will eventually do it simply because its a political advantage to be self sustainable in terms of energy production and the only way to get that is to produce sustainable energy. and we will do it for the same reason. no more russian gas after 2050.
2021-05-04 10:19
and also invest a lot of money into buying up land for reforestation, for carbon capture and increasing biodiversity. its cheaper to plant a tree than to reduce co2 output
2021-05-04 10:06
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I guess you mean in general and not Finland specifically since Finland is like 73% forrrest, which is one of the biggest percentages in the world already
2021-05-04 10:37
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Finland DTeeVee
what if you own an electric car
2021-05-04 12:21
1 reply
saves about half the co2 emissions compared to petrol, not as good as using public transport with 100% renewable energy and co2 compensation for the co2 output from production and maintenance of the vehicles.
2021-05-04 13:47
Having your own car is a lot more convinient in every case expect when youre drunk. Taxis are expensive af too and nobody wants to use a buss or a train.
2021-05-04 10:08
15 replies
maybe its different in finland but i dont get why "nobody wants to use bus or train". a good public transport network can get more people around faster for less money than a road network with a bunch of people sitting alone in 4 person vehicles stuck in traffic.
2021-05-04 10:09
2 replies
Only in like Helsinki is this possible. Rest are Limited to few trips/day etc
2021-05-04 10:28
We have good transportation network where I live but it will never compare to car. Wasting time to get to stations or stops and waiting for connections is just waste of time.
2021-05-04 11:33
Seems like there is bigger problem in Finnish mentality not in public transport.
2021-05-04 10:14
11 replies
Dont think people in other countries prefer to take the bud If they dont have too
2021-05-04 10:29
10 replies
it depends on infrastracture. No one cares in bigger (1 mil+) cities unless you are from village and see something bad on going with public trans
2021-05-04 10:37
9 replies
We have one city in Finland with 1mil+ people... Even them probably dont like it but bare with it cuz their traffic is really shitty so getting by with car is a pain in the ass
2021-05-04 10:39
8 replies
yeah, i get it, i lived in different countries, people would really love to drive their 0,5k usd car and paid over 200usd for gas/month than just buy fucking transport ticket for a month.. And spent some money every second month in service. my point is if you cant afford it just go by public transport, its nothing to be ashamed of. Better to go by bus than just throwing your money away like this.
2021-05-04 10:46
7 replies
If its an option. I personally work 35km from my apartment. Nearest bus stop is 1km from my apartment and nearest bus stop to work is 2.5km away. Just a big cba for me when i can drive there in 30 mins instead of doing that shit which would end up taking like 1.5hrs prob
2021-05-04 10:50
6 replies
yeah i get it man x) i used to go shopping for 3,5km :D because no car or bus around. So the question should be would you drive a bus if the bus station is to 200m from your place and another one 500m from your work?
2021-05-04 10:53
5 replies
I probably wouldnt drive to work no,. But keep my car and drive to other places if needed (work is like 70-80% of my driving)
2021-05-04 10:54
Also the times would have to match, i wouldnt wanna wait a long time for the bus everyday
2021-05-04 10:56
3 replies
but you can do other things during your waiting. Also you can read/write while you go by a bus, things you cannot do when you drive x)
2021-05-04 10:58
2 replies
Its true, but still would wanna wait max like 30 mins. And preferably like 15, i did take the bus alot to my ex gf, but she lived on the country side and the bus only went by her place to mine like 3-4 Times/day so you kinda had to plan according to that, which kinda sucked :/
2021-05-04 11:02
1 reply
yyeah, you can bang her meanwhile for example xd
2021-05-04 11:03
agree, people drink the kool-aid on cars so hard
2021-05-04 08:55
it's pretty useful if you live in a village/small city without public transport 0/8
2021-05-04 08:56
#26
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Luxembourg fowkingell
I have a company car so I'm not paying for any of that shit but even if I didn't I'd still buy a car because of how easy it is to get everywhere on your own time without relying on others.
2021-05-04 09:01
I depends where you live
2021-05-04 09:04
i need a car for my hobby :)
2021-05-04 09:06
Good for shopping, going out of the city/traveling, settling your things when you need to be in a few places quickly + it's a must have if you have kids. Otherwise it's pretty useless.
2021-05-04 09:06
I lost thousands of euros on repairs and shit... if cars doesnt make any profit, its waste of money. The worse thing is that I need car every day
2021-05-04 09:08
15 replies
Do you drive an alpha romeo or some old French car ? How the fuck did you manage to spend that much ?
2021-05-04 09:51
14 replies
Prolly 15 yo bmw.. Like most young wannabe tough slovaks
2021-05-04 10:15
12 replies
audi a4, skoda superb, opel astra GTC turbo Nt kid
2021-05-04 10:18
11 replies
thanks for proving my point
2021-05-04 10:24
10 replies
your point is delusional just like ur life. I bet u r not older than 20y cause u too dumb
2021-05-04 10:25
9 replies
thank for proving my point once again.
2021-05-04 10:37
8 replies
wannabe intellectual. I guess Laos is full of them
2021-05-04 10:41
7 replies
yes, many of clever people live down there
2021-05-04 10:47
6 replies
fakeflagging omegalul. You must be truly desperate
2021-05-04 10:51
5 replies
xddddd desperate, laughing on you how easily you got baited, kok*tko
2021-05-04 10:54
4 replies
Neviem čo ďalej povedať = you got baited, kok*tko. 0iq Individuals like you are shame of our country
2021-05-04 10:58
3 replies
yeah, just look at you, you dont know how to offend me anymore so you desperately use my flag against me just to trigger me. With fakeflag you can just see how desperate people can be. And again, thank you for proving my point, enjoy your day x)
2021-05-04 11:02
2 replies
Thanks for proving my point You were first who used my flag against me and now u tryna use that as an argument against me :D . So hypocritical. But expected from young mannerless online hero. When you grow up, you will understand how wrong you were.
2021-05-04 11:07
1 reply
Good comeback, i really did that. X) anyway i am not slovakian. Have a nice day
2021-05-04 11:08
One car crashed, then repaired, then sold cause I went to other country... that was loss about 8k then Opel Astra GTC turbo - repairs about 4-6k, it broke down again, transmission out of warranty, then rod bearings fucked up, then height adjustable suspension broke down.. etc... :)
2021-05-04 10:21
I agree if you live in a city 2nd hand cheap one is ok. Main thing is that buying cars brand new is stupid and renting should be done more. But yes poor people owning cars makes 0 sense.
2021-05-04 09:10
#36
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Sweden Kasidro
totally depends on where you live.
2021-05-04 09:15
I don't have much of a choice.
2021-05-04 09:17
+1
2021-05-04 09:22
I have a luxury suv but I don't use it during workdays. I bought it just to go out on weekends with my family. Even two days in a week, still I need a car for my family.
2021-05-04 09:22
2 replies
#107
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Romania Pooknezeu
Are you the guy with a Lexus RX? If so, nice car.
2021-05-04 10:00
1 reply
+1
2021-05-04 10:26
If u have a family then u kinda need a car but if you live alone and live close to your job then no reason to have one I guess
2021-05-04 09:26
1 reply
Still a reason to have one almost anywhere in the US, even if you live close to your job uber/lyft/taxis are super expensive and that adds up after time if you want to go anywhere else other than your job. You can get a decent used car for 3k, without one you could spend that much on transportation in a year anyway. Also majority of the people on this thread must be kids, because any adult would know from experience how much use a car has for errands that come up from day to day week to week.
2021-05-04 10:42
And people are a waste of oxygen, yet we're still here.
2021-05-04 09:28
Obviosly its waste of money, but human mind is made like, (i have to have a car,family, blabla ) some own car because he needs to be a cool guy, depends of person
2021-05-04 09:31
4 replies
Not a waste, in the long run it's WAY cheaper. At least in the US.
2021-05-04 10:43
3 replies
Might be, USA is big and a lot depends wher u live, my country have like 2mill people and you can easly travel everywher without car, plus country likes to put taxes on faking everything, so hare is definently cheaper
2021-05-04 11:27
#294
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Europe Vallon4
Lmao, a car is in no way cheaper than public transport, no idea what the fuck you're on about. You first have to shell out at least 5 grand for a semi-decent used car, then you start paying for gas every trip (which is AT LEAST as much as a PT ticket would cost), then you start paying for regular maintenance and insurance, then you start praying you don't crash or a part doesn't break, because if a vital part goes out, replacing it will cost like 70%-80% of your car's entire worth. Happened to a friend of mine, guy just had to give up on the car since he didn't have that much money. Cars were never meant to be cheaper than public transport anyway - you're meant to trade financial ease for convenience. That's that.
2021-05-04 15:10
1 reply
In America there is no public transport in like 80% of places, only uber/lyft. Which is WAY more expensive to use daily then a car in the long term. I don't know how it is where you're from, but I stated that its cheaper in the US. You can get a decent car for 3k in the US with minimum effort. Regular maintenance is no more than 400$ a year if you do it yourself and your not a moron, you can spend that much in a month on uber/lyft. Who cares what they were meant to be, cars were invented over 100 years ago, there current state in relation to financial capability is completely unrelated to their original purpose. I'm middle class, I own TWO cars and pay for insurance, gas and maintenance on both and I still pay less than I would not owning a vehicle. I know, because I used to not own one.
2021-05-04 21:28
#59
f0rest | 
Czech Republic Iram
get a car, you will undestand my car has costed me 30,96 euro according to the todays google conversion rates, im fine
2021-05-04 09:34
I never got a driver's license and will never drive a car. Forces me to live in a city but that's the way I like it. I don't want to pollute and destroy nature anymore than I have to.
2021-05-04 09:33
8 replies
#63
f0rest | 
Czech Republic Iram
live in a cave then never fly, ty
2021-05-04 09:34
3 replies
Nice reduction skills, you done your math homework.
2021-05-04 09:35
2 replies
#70
f0rest | 
Czech Republic Iram
you wrote a complete bullshit, maybe you will realise one day maybe look on the data, who are the pollutors, how much personal transport contributes to overall emissions, maybe calculate how much emissions you "save" using public transport etc
2021-05-04 09:37
1 reply
You both kind of have a point. Alltho imo you have the better one.
2021-05-04 09:50
Are you currently working :)?
2021-05-04 09:49
3 replies
You wanna talk about life?
2021-05-04 09:55
2 replies
Sure
2021-05-04 09:59
1 reply
So go ahead. I'm all ears.
2021-05-04 10:01
Ofc it's waste for people who don't need it or enjoy it. I enjoy driving, and look forward to buy one when I can afford it. I'm not the type who will pay monthly instalments for 5 years or more on a new car.
2021-05-04 09:34
Because public transportation don't go everywhere I want to go or distance is so long that I don't want to cycle there and there's always loud idiots in public transport alongside the fact that it's slower Conclusion only poor and crazy people use public transport alongside smelly elders
2021-05-04 09:36
flag checks out. Im living in Germany and bought a new car last year. The car will be paid in 2 years so it depends where you live mens. I know i russia you have to work 20 years for a new car.
2021-05-04 09:37
2 replies
What car?
2021-05-04 09:41
1 reply
i paid 30k euro
2021-05-04 10:51
required for work and its also comfortable, however i dont own my car. company does.
2021-05-04 09:40
2 replies
depends on where you live i guess
2021-05-04 09:44
1 reply
actually live in sweden l0l
2021-05-04 09:47
Agree and disagree. You can get a car for very very cheap and be okay financially. With this car you can do stuff like visiting other places (plus driving is fun) or you need it to drive to work. Problem i have and many others is buying a too expensive car. My Audi A5 was 27k which was too much for me.
2021-05-04 09:43
1 reply
#110
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Romania Pooknezeu
Did you purchase it with down payment from dealer or do you include the overall costs of maintenance, licensing etc.?
2021-05-04 10:02
#81
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Saudi Arabia Xpicyy
Imagine still using cars when you can save lots of money using E-bikes lmfao
2021-05-04 09:45
I guess depends on where and how you live. Doesn't make sense in a small city, where shops and work are easy to get to. But the bigger the distances the more important car becomes. p.s. also car gives you complete freedom to go wherever you want whenever you want. Something that opens so many more opportunities.
2021-05-04 10:05
Living in rural areas you just need a car. Work, groceries, doctor, etc. literally nothing within a few kilometers.
2021-05-04 10:04
is this a status/bragging thing? -Yes, partly
2021-05-04 10:10
You actually need to own a car to understand. The feeling of freedom a car gives you is amazing. You can go anywhere you want, any time you want. Also, having some private space, especially during covid makes your life easier.
2021-05-04 10:10
who's cars?
2021-05-04 10:11
#136
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United States NABOT
I live in America with shit ghetto ass public transportation Plus I have money
2021-05-04 10:12
It's an investment in more freedom and timesaving Time=money - so save time and you save money
2021-05-04 10:14
1 reply
#142
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United States NABOT
This
2021-05-04 10:16
#139
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Kuwait roye
car one of must dumb purchase you can make, it loses half value in first year with most cars, as a kid i thought cars are cool now i only look at it as waste of money.
2021-05-04 10:15
Because it's fun!
2021-05-04 10:15
I'm living in Canada rn, I literally can't go anywhere without a car. Also, I have enough money for a car. (Or, my parents do lmao)
2021-05-04 10:16
#155
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
because i can go get mcdonalds whenver i want. umad kid?
2021-05-04 10:23
#156
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Lebanon Dogman69
its a bit of a status symbol although practically its different. You dont need a car when you live in London but probably need it if you live in the suburbs or something
2021-05-04 10:23
If you live in the countryside cars become mandatory in a big city they can be a financial burden that isn’t worth it
2021-05-04 10:28
Bicycle > everything
2021-05-04 10:31
#167
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Finland SunMutsi
Idk man, i only use flying mats or bike.
2021-05-04 10:34
I have to travel 20 km to attend school. 2 buses go by each day. We don't have uber in finland. Taxis are expensive for daily basis. I live in countryside there is no metro or railway. Yes I need my car. I don't need expensive car I just need car that can move me from place A to B. That's why.
2021-05-04 10:34
in USA you pretty much need a car, even extremely poor people have cars, albeit bad ones exceptions are areas with good public transport systems like NYC or D.C., but they are few and far between
2021-05-04 10:38
because when u drive a good car it feels 1000x times much better than if u are staying in the overcrowded sweaty bus in 6am?
2021-05-04 10:41
there isn't great public transport a lot of places so then having a car makes a lot of sense, there might legit be no way to get your work place with public transport without using way too much time, we already have not enough freetime so I'd surely get a car was I wasting way too much for travel only for not having one. I gotta say though, if u live in big city with good public transport, you do not really need one yes. I guess people just like to drive rather than take public transport and car can be status symbol like watch on your wrist xd.
2021-05-04 10:54
I are agree, i live in center of big city, i wouldnt want a car even for free lol
2021-05-04 10:52
Firstly, you should not consider the car only as a vehicle.This, for example, affects your communication with girls sometimes. Secondly, you should not extrapolate your understanding of "more comfortable" to all people. Perhaps this is 1000 times more comfortable to drive their own car for them, thus completely covering the inconvenience of paying debts. Third, they can follow tradition. If 3 generations of family traveled by personal transport, then let it be 4.
2021-05-04 11:12
Heard that if u dont have a car in us, ure probably a handicap
2021-05-04 11:16
i am living in upper silesian agglomeration, 3,5km away from work, bus every 10 minutes, but it's impossible to live without car for me,i cant imagine myself going by bus there, also it is literally the best way to relax, night rides in a fast car and loud music are the best thing imo.
2021-05-04 11:18
Idependency Hey wanna meet right now? Yeah sure ok ill pick you up instead of waiting for a bus and meetin in the middle of nowhere You can also get girls on cars and fuck in a car too, very practical! Obviously people who get first car they dont have money for instead of saving them are dumb and its their fault, but if you work hard and get money and buy car afterwards when you can afford it, whats the problem?
2021-05-04 11:33
1 reply
(the example with pickin up a mate was said bcs I live somewhat in the subbubrs and the city centre is far and the buses are lowkey shit and imo expensive for what it is) I can go and pick up my mate who lives 30 mins away by car in 30 mins instead of both of us going down to a meeting point for 1-2hrs
2021-05-04 11:35
#243
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Portugal kubZ
ok, i live 15km from my work, as chef barman in an hotel i go 2x a day to work, i have a 2years old daughter, need to put and get her at babysister and i have no transports where i live... solutions ?
2021-05-04 11:46
Uber is not financially viable in western countries for middle class. Not even upper middle class. 20 minute drive or so will cost you 30€+
2021-05-04 11:48
Because I like cars & driving, not because I absolutely need it. Otherwise I would spend my money elsewhere.
2021-05-04 11:48
1 reply
cars are the most expensive hobby . you lose money every single day but it feels so good
2021-05-04 12:38
privacy, emergency and comfort. its enough
2021-05-04 11:49
0/8 Did you ever consider that there are people living outside of the city?
2021-05-04 11:50
#251
perk  | 
Finland eIe
I like driving Its easier Its more comfortable Its private
2021-05-04 11:52
What about Electric car recharging with Solar panels? that's my plan! :D I hope to get the electric volvo xc40 (coming soon to us) or maybe bmw i3 ( we don't have many options here in South Africa) PS: Hope everyone reading has a great week further! <3
2021-05-04 11:54
2 replies
How are the electric cars doing in Africa ? I do not want to be mean or anything but majority of people there are poor af . Also I dont think its the most friendly continent for electric cars , I cant imagine traveling from South Africa to Tanzania lets say in an electric car
2021-05-04 12:43
1 reply
Oh yeah no worries haha, South Africa really isn't great at all for electric cars our government has yet to subsidize for purchasing of them so they're all quite expensive and we have hardly any infrastructure with regards to a charging network, only about +-200 charging points around SA, So yeah probably not possible for that long of a trip although those type of trips are unlikely anyways I think. A few car manufactures here are trying to get into talks with government about import tax etc but who knows how long that will take :( but hope in the coming years we get closer! hope that helped, have a lovely day xx
2021-05-04 17:49
brother some people just love cars their are theyre passion
2021-05-04 12:02
When you grow up and get kids then you will understand
2021-05-04 12:12
get a car firstly
2021-05-04 12:14
wouldnt generalize it. theres a lot of people who are in need of a car nbe it that public transport sucks in their area or whatnot.. the main problem is that too many people own cars but use them barely. and they take a lot of space. people should make their cars more accesible for other in their neighborhood. like a private car sharing. i sure do so with mine. works like a charm. and i get a bit on the side for repairs and shit.
2021-05-04 12:20
4 replies
#267
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Finland DTeeVee
Do you get paid for it ?
2021-05-04 12:20
3 replies
its on a donation basis. its a self-built camper van convertible up to 9 seats, so obv if someone uses it to have a weekend vacation they are expected to pay more than if someone just wants to transport a couch from one end of town to the other, etc
2021-05-04 12:22
2 replies
#271
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Finland DTeeVee
Do people usually pay?
2021-05-04 12:23
1 reply
yes. it works very well. well enough, so if people who have really little money available can borrow it for gas only or no money at all. our neighbourhood is doing a lot of shared community stuff in general. like food saving, exchanging not wanted/needed stuff from their household, helping ppl with power tools they temporarily need, and (diy) work etc. i can only recommend to start something like that - its a telegram group where we organize the communication - in your area.
2021-05-04 12:38
in USA if u dont have car u will find yourself in hard situation because the closest grocery shop is far from your home,work is far etc.In most US cities there is NO sidewalk people to use! In EU city network is perfectly made for pedestrians you can have a short walk and go to the grocery shop,work etc.We have perfect local transport system so we can take bus/at least/ if we want.In big cities we have perfect metropoliten system.We have sidewalks people can use. To summarize : USA u need a car in EU u dont need a car
2021-05-04 12:20
1 reply
#293
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United States PP_Bizon
+1
2021-05-04 14:15
#272
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Russia M1shV4T
who cars
2021-05-04 12:24
4 replies
#273
vsm | 
Brazil mafe^
i car vrooom vrooooom
2021-05-04 12:25
3 replies
#277
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Russia M1shV4T
imma go ron don don on my vw golf
2021-05-04 12:27
2 replies
#279
vsm | 
Brazil mafe^
me no brun brun me no car me poor
2021-05-04 12:29
1 reply
#284
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Russia M1shV4T
old car can brun brun old car is cheap
2021-05-04 12:59
Cus nothing else compares with driving your own car. It's also a man's pleasure. Taxi? Expensive. Public transport? Too slow & too many people around. Bike? Kinda slow too, doesn't feel as comfortable and gets you tired.
2021-05-04 12:25
The main reason why i have a car - independence. I decide for myself from where and when i move out and do it with comfort with a speed that i chose, with no sweaty mens)) and crazy old womens 2nd reason - i earn about 40% of my salary for using my own car and don't spend money on gasoline 3rd reason - i live alone with no bf\gf, cats, dogs etc. and my car is member of my family, i don't regret to spend money to car maintenance and to make it more comfortable 4th reason - i just like to drive
2021-05-04 12:25
People who have cars but cannot afford to maintain them are idiots . However , if you have the money and saving cars are the best things . You do not buy a car to invest because every km you lose money , you buy them because they are fun af ( rainy night drive is the best sensation in the world ) and for a lot of people are part of their family . I own 2 cars right now and my goal is to own at least 100
2021-05-04 12:30
A car is always a bad investment but a needed one
2021-05-04 14:03
#290
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Greece RedWinter
yes, it's a sign of low iq generally when you see middle or low class people waste all of their money on expensive cars instead of investing them. I'd much rather have a 2k euro used car than a 15k brand new one, it'll have the same functions for me
2021-05-04 14:07
I live roughly about a 3-4 hr walk, or 40 min bike ride from the nearest actual town. I only have a nearby party store, and no public transportation. That's why I own a car. Edit: We also have no Uber/Lyft and the nearest taxi service would cost nearly 200 just to get it to come to my house
2021-05-04 14:09
#292
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United States PP_Bizon
I see a lot of Europeans not understanding why the U.S uses so many cars in this thread, and from my experience it is generally because they don't understand the size difference between European countries and the US. The size makes it logistically extremely difficult especially in non coastal areas. Everything is so spread out and shops/supermarkets are all spread out and located in areas that are highly inconvenient for pedestrians.
2021-05-04 14:14
2 replies
i noticed America (from my experience of just florida) has much less sidewalks for pedestrians than i was used too in europe, it makes walking somewhere much harder and you need transport instead, that is part of the inconvenience even my shitty rural village in england has a path for 2 miles to the next village, but i could hardly go from shop to shop in parts of florida
2021-05-04 15:14
1 reply
#299
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United States PP_Bizon
yeah, 87% of the US needs to figure out what a sidewalk is
2021-05-04 15:58
would be nice to pick up over 60kg of different tools into bus every morning
2021-05-04 15:14
Matchfixer's trophy
2021-05-04 15:16
nt poorski
2021-05-04 15:21
My poor car is gathering dust since March 2020 FeelsBadMan
2021-05-04 17:52
I feel like there are a lot of points to be made here and thus i will make some. A lot of people need their car for everyday stuff like getting groceries and going to work, some areas and cities lack proper public transportation which basically means that these people have no choice but to get a car. You also have the fact that having a car is a great freedom, you can go wherever whenever and you don't have to worry about your train being late or waiting 20 minutes in the cold for the next bus to come. It is also important to note that not everything that loses value is a waste of money. In my opinion, if something makes you happy then the waste is justified since happiness and being happy is so important for one's well being. As a car enthusiast I might be biased but spending money on cars is something that I will always do and yeah, finacially I would probably be better of buying stocks or something but the thing is that stocks lack the roar of a V8.
2021-05-04 18:09
If they didn't have a car, you wouldn't have Uber.
2021-05-04 21:33
ok and i want to waste my money on a car. anyone got problems with that?
2021-05-04 21:34
Not everyone lives in the city. Also uber 1. is your avg car owner driving people around 2. Costs more than the gas cost if you have your own car. And if you have to drive to work everyday it costs less and is 100000x more reliable than hoping a user can drive you 30 minutes to your job at the right times.
2021-05-04 21:35
I usually hang on the back of a bus when i go to school. I dont have to buy a ticket and its fun
2021-05-04 21:38
Life is hell in the US without a car. In the flyover states you basically need one.
2021-05-04 21:39
Depends on your city ofc. My city is not too big and its quite easy to bike here. However we have a shit ton of snow here like half a year so its hell to bike, but i do it anyways. But i understand ppl that take the car instead.
2021-05-04 21:41
I live in a pretty sparsely populated area. No public transportation besides the school bus that didn't even go to the same school as me. If you want to do anything here, you need a car.
2021-05-04 21:43
1 reply
+1 kinda same situation
2021-05-04 21:59
depends where u live mens
2021-05-04 21:45
Modern cars are designed by marketologists to look cool and attract people not to be reliable. Even new car will always have some issues and you need to invest tons of money to repair this things
2021-05-04 21:47
it's less about a car being a waste of money than people thinking they can afford the car when they can't maintenance cost can be expensive indeed but yeah in many european cities a car is useless
2021-05-04 21:47
1 reply
Most men buy expensive cars to look more prestigious than others. It's like golden watch - has same qualities like a plastic one but you can flex on others how rich are you
2021-05-04 21:56
Hltv humiliating itself once more.....
2021-05-05 14:10
I live in a City and the distance to my workplace is 16km. If i use Public Transport it takes 1 hour. So 2 Hours every day. If i drive with a car it takes me 12 minutes, so ~30 minutes per day if you take bad weather or traffic jams into consideration. Thats 7,5 hours a week, 30 hours a month of travel time i save. Those are the 30 hours i can use to go to the gym, play games, meet people or work on my home etc. I have an old Volvo V70, when i break down those 30 hours + cost of a monthly ticket for Public Transport vs the cost of the car(petro, tax, insurance, etc.) i pay maybe 5€ extra per hour of free time i get from it. I gladly do that and enjoy my life instead of sitting in a tram all day. It depends heavily on where you work wether or not public transport is viable or not, even in a city . And in my case its really bad(change trams 2x with distance between stations, use a bike to get from tram station to actual work place 2km). If its a 5 station distance ofcourse a car makes no sense. You also have the freedom to move stuff(yourself, others, things) whenever, wherever you want for a low cost. The car itself is not the problem, the mentally of having to "Show off" "the best, the newest, the coolest" car or whatever is a problem. same with phones or other "useful" stuff, it has to match the intended use for the lowest cost in as many regards as possible.
2021-05-05 14:32
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