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8REASONS FOR UNDESERVED - Train
Iran GodS1mple 
Train deserved to stay in map pool .. REASONS : 1- Ct side economy is shit enough , and it was the only map that made the match balanced , t side had so much better economy and better guns and ct side had advatages in positions and entries .. 2- Train was really amazing to play and also watch ..Train matches in proscene was close matches , and even in non closed matches we could see amazing highlights and crazy moments ... i can remember atleast 10 heroic and iconic moments in train 3- imo it was popular in cs communuty and more than 70 % of people was able to play train easily and without any problems 4. In 2021 most of the teams started to practice train again .. Even G2 and Big practiced this map and stopped banning train train was permaban of only 2 teams ( vita and liquid ) ... but look at dust2 perma bans : heroic , furia , fnatic , nip ... or look at the vertigo permabans : navi , og , spirit , faze .. and also overpass was perma ban of g2 , mouz , faze ( ban against teams which they permaban vertigo ) 5. Overpass is the most hated map in tier 1 players opinion .. i can give source if anyone wants it .. 6. Dust 2 and mirage is the most hated and the most overplayed maps in cs community 7. Vertigo is in map pool for 2 years but still no one like this shit map , and most of the teams are banning this map 8- Top teams like Gambit , Navi , Heroic , Spirit , Astrallis , VP , Furia ,Faze and etc ... can play rain really good :) AND ALSO +ANCIENT DOESNT MAKES SENSE ! WHY NOT CACHE OR CBBLE OR TUSCAN ????? ancient is an ugly map with lower fps and its a dark map ..
2021-05-04 11:04
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Denmark pebblez
Train sucks and Vertigo is godlike, welcome Ancient!
2021-05-04 11:06
6 replies
0/8
2021-05-04 11:08
0/8
2021-05-04 11:20
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Finland JmNn1
expected from a dane
2021-05-04 11:57
#37
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Poland malymaly
No, yes, no
2021-05-04 11:59
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United Kingdom Triturn
0/8
2021-05-04 12:02
#50
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Ukraine Dert_
0/8 kids prevail btw
2021-05-04 12:05
i am happy they took out train...its the most boring map ever !
2021-05-04 11:07
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D2 is way more boring
2021-05-04 12:15
Agreed
2021-05-04 11:07
no... pretty much every other map is more balanced than train
2021-05-04 11:10
5 replies
bro , train is a ct sided map in positions and plant situations and entries .. but the economy of t side and t sided guns made this map balanced .. thats why train had a lot of close matches
2021-05-04 11:14
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Ofc close matches were a thing cuz both teams that played had insane ct halfs with 9+ rounds. 11-4 ct half than the other team makes a comeback second half ct side. It's ct sided, not balanced at all. G2, fucking g2 who had 30% winrate on train, beat gambit, but lost to fpx on train. It's unbalanced.
2021-05-04 11:20
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Serbia XD___
well tbh g2 won both halfs
2021-05-04 12:07
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Finland okxD
But its still more unbalanced than other maps
2021-05-04 11:21
1 reply
True
2021-05-04 11:56
"it was the only map that made the match balanced" - stopped reading after this. Train was the least balanced map in the map pool.
2021-05-04 11:11
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2021-05-04 11:14
3 replies
What the fuck are you talking about. 12-3 half every time = balanced map??
2021-05-04 11:37
2 replies
Check stats and you will see its not fucking 12.3 every time You should use your braincells
2021-05-04 11:55
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Serbia XD___
let him be, he doesn't know what he is talking about
2021-05-04 11:59
At least half of your points are not true.
2021-05-04 11:11
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Australia B_Tannen
It might be the most unbalanced map but it’s not broken. Train wasn’t the map to go, especially for ancient which is a total joke map.
2021-05-04 11:11
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2021-05-04 11:14
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Australia B_Tannen
You’re right, it isn’t unbalanced and train is very good in the pro scene. But it’s still the most unbalanced map because the others are so even, regardless of being unbalanced or not.
2021-05-04 11:19
1 reply
True
2021-05-04 11:54
The only argument that actually matters to Valve: Train is the least popular map in MM. 10+ min queue for train all the time while dust and mirage have 2-3 minutes.
2021-05-04 11:16
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#14
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Australia B_Tannen
No thoughts on how it affects thing competitively.
2021-05-04 11:19
3 replies
When has valve ever cared about pro scene?
2021-05-04 11:21
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Australia B_Tannen
Outside of the stickers and majors, never.
2021-05-04 11:23
1 reply
+111111
2021-05-04 11:57
I've never seen Train have more than 3 minutes wait time, this could of course be based on what regional servers are closest to you.
2021-05-04 11:30
1 reply
+1 , 3- 5minutes for me
2021-05-04 11:57
wtf where u live in europe max 4 min queue mostly 3
2021-05-04 12:01
8/8 thread
2021-05-04 11:21
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United Kingdom julz!
soft.
2021-05-04 11:21
#21
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CIS roye
train is too one sided map, also i think new different style of play is required for this, like its lurking non stop and awp other style players cant do anything on it. Also its not only one sided map, but its also power sided, like as if you have better economy i think its low chance to stop good weapons.
2021-05-04 11:22
4 replies
#9 :)
2021-05-04 11:58
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CIS roye
we have close matches because teams switch sides after mid, also not equal teams play, if noob team plays on better side we will see close game, close game = / = balanced map.
2021-05-04 11:59
2 replies
Its unbalanced than other maps , but its not that unbalanced .. because eavh side has own advantage ( t side has economy and gun advantages , and ct has positioning and retake advantage ... ) thats why we can see close matches in train Also imo nuke is more ct sided than train
2021-05-04 12:03
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CIS roye
you talk about map balance as if it is same as guns balance my man you are gold nova your record i think
2021-05-04 12:05
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Germany Die_Linke
Would have wished -Dust2 even though BIG was pretty good at it but it is always the same tactics. Nothing new anymore only the team who wins all the aim duels wins the map....So boring to both watch and play
2021-05-04 11:22
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D2 should be passed to scrimmage queue for all eternity, no need to rework it, it just needs to go from the active duty pool.
2021-05-04 11:31
+1 bro Dust 2 is the best map of navi , but still i hate it .. bcz its boring
2021-05-04 11:59
Yeah ! we just want cobble back or may b tuscan. :(
2021-05-04 11:26
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Norway Dogebro42
Train worst map
2021-05-04 11:39
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Sweden axelious
Yea, I pretty much agree. Overpass for sure isn't the most hated map though, Vertigo is. Overpass is pretty much loved by all.
2021-05-04 11:57
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I didntsaid ovp is the mist hated map , i said in pro players opinion its not a good map .. i can give you source bro
2021-05-04 12:00
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Sweden axelious
Well, I don't think tier 1 players agree. Give source if you wish. However it for sure is Vertigo :P
2021-05-04 12:01
+Cache would've been so epic. I loved to watch comp games on that map. But wellp. Volvo thinks fucking Ancient is better than Cache, what a shitshow. It's like they're just trying how far they can go before the community actually goes into cancelmode.
2021-05-04 12:02
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Sweden axelious
Agreee
2021-05-04 12:04
I dont like new cache , but 100% its better than fucking acient with 90 fps
2021-05-04 12:06
1 reply
Let's keep it s0mple and say that everything (LITERALLY ANYTHING) is better than Ancient in the fucking comp pool. Like WTF, were they high on shrooms or smth? (sometimes, based on their decisionmaking, I would say they are) Moral of the story, Valve once again fucks up bigtime.
2021-05-04 12:09
+1
2021-05-04 12:02
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