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why are people crying about this map? every time they add a new map, people say its dogshit. Overpass was a horrible map, but now its one of the best. Do you think crying about it on Twitter and HLTV is going to make the CS devs go "oh ahah it was just a joke lol! we are actually bringing cobblestone back!". No its probably not. 99.99% of you guys crying about it dont even get paid to play the game, and never will, so why does it matter to you? Just dont play the map :D
2021-05-04 11:42
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#1
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Finland JmNn1
why so angry?
2021-05-04 11:42
4 replies
im so mad! im shaking a crying and i dont know what to do
2021-05-04 11:43
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#8
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Finland JmNn1
damn feel bad for you
2021-05-04 11:44
#32
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Russia inejxx
blyat same brother #TeamAncient
2021-05-04 16:20
#47
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United States 3manu3l
100t disbanded get outahere
2021-05-04 16:38
People are afraid of changes, easy as that.
2021-05-04 11:43
3 replies
+1 makes it so hard to actually add new maps
2021-05-04 16:24
No we are not. We are afraid of bad changes!
2021-05-04 18:07
1 reply
name checks out
2021-05-04 20:18
#4
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Italy I_like_csgo
I think they need to add the maps to the pool so that players actually play them which gives them data to make appropiate changes
2021-05-04 11:43
1 reply
+1 in scrimmage the balancing problems the map has wont really show
2021-05-04 18:05
Overpass is still dogshit
2021-05-04 11:44
6 replies
no?
2021-05-04 11:54
#37
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Canada free_ropz
gold nova dust2 and mirage main player spotted
2021-05-04 16:25
4 replies
Overpass worst map on the pool at the moment with mirage and dust2
2021-05-04 16:26
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#50
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Denmark lilbitmaw
no not at all lol
2021-05-04 16:41
+1
2021-05-04 18:00
nt i am LE and i didnt play a game on dust2 for a year i often play train , mirage , inferno , nuke and vertigo it`s my opinion that overpass and dust2 are dogshit for matchmaking you have to respect that lulquid fan
2021-05-04 17:59
Cause gaming community is overwhelmingly autistic
2021-05-04 11:44
4 replies
No, bcuz it's a boring map to play and watch
2021-05-04 16:21
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#45
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Brazil Rafaking
the map hasn't even been played competitively and you already saying that it is boring to watch lmao
2021-05-04 16:35
2 replies
his imagination is strong, how else can he get a girlfriend
2021-05-04 17:47
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#67
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Brazil Rafaking
lmao +1
2021-05-04 18:24
Overpass is still the worst map in cs for me
2021-05-04 11:44
5 replies
how come
2021-05-04 11:55
3 replies
Because it's slow-paced and boring. Rotate times between site A and B for Terrorists are long af where CT can get from A to B in seconds. As a CT you are basically forced to stay on your spawn, because any attept at holding mid/toilets ends with getting gangbanged by 5 terrorist from 3 different angles.
2021-05-04 11:59
2 replies
Get a teammate/friend and play aggressive A setups long, party, toilets, con. Problem solved:)
2021-05-04 18:07
#71
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South Africa BuddhapawN
You're clearly just bad. Best spawn peek mid with awp, one hold long however he wants, one lowers/connector, 2 b problem solved
2021-05-04 20:19
Yeah Old ovp was the best map ever
2021-05-05 09:21
I think Ancient is gonna be a good map to watch. Excited to see how it plays out
2021-05-04 11:44
+1 finally something new and unexpected
2021-05-04 11:45
it was just added on esportal aswell gyazo.com/f0a37b25ef44db7a03175d4d5b81d0.. this guy play it rn twitch.tv/professor_galen/ <-- he won vs brollan peppzor and jackinho easy x6.60 odds btw
2021-05-04 11:45
2 replies
twitch.tv/professor_galen something is wrong with your link
2021-05-04 11:48
1 reply
its the / probably xd
2021-05-04 11:53
pros are pussies. They want new maps, but whenever a new map is introduced they cry about it. OVP was dogshit. Vertigo was dogshit. Funny thing is that people are tired of old maps, but then suggest even older maps like russka, contra and tuscan. Ancient might be dogshit, but will be fine in like 4-6 months. Same shit with OVP and Vertigo before. I actually think that ancient has potential. Just need some changes here and there. E: I mixed up ancient with anubis. Anubis has a lot of potential. Ancient... Never liked it personally. Also only played it for the trash missions but imo anubis is way way better.
2021-05-04 11:50
8 replies
exactly
2021-05-04 11:49
1 reply
I had to edit. I mixed up ancient with anubis. I don't like ancient and think it's trash. Anubis has a lot of potential and just needs some changes. Ancient... needs A LOT of changes.
2021-05-04 11:51
#43
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United States PP_Bizon
I actually see quite a few pros being positive about this change, it's just the community who is still living in cache & cobble being bitches
2021-05-04 16:35
Issue is - it's not a guarantee they will make Ancient into a good map... While they made OVP into the best map IMO, Vertigo is still just as bad as when it was first added. After playing around on Ancient I can safely say I have the same feeling about it as on Vertigo. Also the people who were saying Train was removed because "it was the most CT sided map", Ancient looks more CT sided than 2016 Nuke...
2021-05-04 16:35
4 replies
Train was mostly likely removed cause it's the least played map. Nuke and Vertigo won't be replaced cause they have been remade already / were "recently" added Vertigo is way better than in the beginning. At the moment it's a very boring, but not a bad map. In the beginning it was just completely trash. Can't even find that amount of trash in naples.
2021-05-04 17:49
1 reply
Unfortunate, but probably the truth :/ I still think Vertigo is awful, it's probably better than it was but it's still hot garbage.
2021-05-04 20:07
If the open up the skybox above A tunnels more, make the hill above it smaller and tweak some bombsites, angles, obstacles and T entrances i think the map will be balanced
2021-05-04 18:09
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TL;DR - if they change the whole map, it will be balanced yes)
2021-05-04 23:21
I want something clarified, train will only be removed from the pros active duty map pool right? Nothing changes for us with our maps in mm-faceit-esportalen etc? If so, what does it matter for us? Why would people be crying then? Me personally would definitely have prefered if they removed mirage just so that they could make a new version of it for us as I feel that it has been played to death, a face lift and some changes would be fantastic. As for ancient, I have played it. Think its meh.. Nothing special about it, mediocre map. Surely prefer vertigo over it for the difference in gameplay we got from vertigo.
2021-05-04 11:49
7 replies
esportal added ancient already. I guess faceit will add it as well. Question is if they will remove train. They also still have cache in.... I also don't like ancient. It's ugly and plays weird. Would have prefered Anubis.
2021-05-04 11:52
6 replies
I realise that we get the change of having ancient in our map pool on these various sites, what I meant was: Train wont be removed for us on these sites right?" But then again, even if it gets removed on faceit-esportalen etc most people wont even se it as a change as 99% of the boring playerbase are to afraid of playing train anyways.. This is 9 out of 10 map pick/bans I remove mirage They remove train I remove dust2 They remove nuke/ vertigo I remove cache They remove vertigo/nuke I chose overpass or inferno. 9/10 times I promise. If im not the leader then its still train gone instantly, nuke and vertigo follows. All gets banned until its mirage and another map left but it doesnt matter what that map is because its gonna be mirage either way.. There are legit players in le-suprime who cant play train..
2021-05-04 12:01
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+1. Maybe it will be removed. It won't matter too much tho. People are too afraid to lose, or get flamed cause they picked ancient. It will be banned 90+% of the time. I just checked my faceit (2.4k+ matches, soloQ since 2012 and almost never captain) totally played 183 matches on train. 183! since 2012! out of 24xx! And I can tell you that every one of those matches was miserable cause even at 2.3k+ elo people at max. knew sandwich smoke. I liked train since cs 1.5, but it was horrible to play in cs:go cause no one knew how to play it and everyone just cries 24/7. Gonna be the same shit with ancient. Have fun never playing it. Fun fact: I played cbble 82 times and nuke 84 times. I like nuke and never really liked cbble. 4-5 years not in the pool and played as often as nuke :D
2021-05-04 16:14
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Fun fact, people say they wont play train because they dont know every position callout or smoke lineups. My answer, I can show you the map callouts and watch some youtube video for smoke lineups? Their answer, nah.. Him: I would really like a pizza but only if they had put mushrooms on it.. Me: I actually have some mushrooms in my frigde, you want me to put some on the pizza then you can join me? Him: Nah.. My stats on faceit are about the same % wise, and I never ever ban nuke or train.. And even if by some miracle my opponent leader decides to float nuke or train because he thinks I wont pick it, then I do it gladly, guess what? They wont join.. Yes they are afraid to lose, but fail to realise the upside.. Me: Since most people are like you, they dont know train. If you would learn it, you would have a big advantage and actually get basically free wins on it.. Him: Nah.
2021-05-04 16:25
I think removing mirage completely while they "rework" it or whatever would be the best thing that could happen for the community. It would force everyone to play other maps and maybe realise that hey nuke/vertigo etc is not that bad, who knew?
2021-05-04 16:30
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The moment it was clear we won't have lans in 2020 (last year june or so) they should have removed mirage + train and added two new maps. But that would mean they'd have to put more ressources into cs:go and we know that valve doesn't want that. Anway, fuck ancient man. Shit is ugly af. Not even talking about how it's played. It's just not a map that is appealing to the eye.
2021-05-04 17:51
I actually hope they do -cache +train on faceit. Now thats a mappool where i will like any map.
2021-05-04 18:10
instead of adding tuscan, they add ancient.
2021-05-04 11:55
4 replies
Let's remove an old map to introduce an even older map. Great idea. As much as I enjoyed playing them fuck mill, russka, tuscan, contra and whatever they were called. Put some new shit in. Yeah, ancient sucks dick and is ugly af. Would have prefered anubis. Actually has some potential with a couple of changes, or something completely different.
2021-05-04 16:16
1 reply
tuscan seems to be old, but wtf man, ppl didnt play it for years. spend some money for completing it and add it to the pool. still better than ancient. even aztec is more fun than ancient
2021-05-04 17:16
#46
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United States PP_Bizon
tuscan isn't even complete
2021-05-04 16:35
#68
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Finland tonzka_hoo
tuscan rework isn't ready yet
2021-05-04 18:52
#23
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Estonia Artsa
I think ancient is good map. new things get time to get used to, so people will always hate new things.
2021-05-04 12:00
because ancient right now is awful and it gets thrust in. it wont be played during hte near RMR tournaments but might be played during the major. make it a smooth transition, because right now the map is horribly ct sided
2021-05-04 12:03
#26
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Netherlands Yourii
Idk about ancient its more train being removed for me
2021-05-04 12:04
6 replies
I have 183 matches on train in faceit after 24xx total matches. I was almost never captain and played soloQ 90+% of the time. No one fucking liked train. And if it was played, no one knew how to play it. Even at lvl10. Ffs I remember 2600+ elo people saying "Idk this map. I only play mirage, d2, inf and ovp"
2021-05-04 16:19
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Weird... as someone who just hit 1.8k matches on Faceit (90+% of it is also soloQ, just like in your case), I can't share the same experience... I too, was most of the time NOT the captain. I've been 3k+ elo for well over a year now and these are my current map stats: imgur.com/a/YIQkttj From this you can figure that Vertigo IS still THE least played map, Nuke is the second least played map ALTHOUGH I think Nuke is a great map.
2021-05-04 16:41
4 replies
I don't think Vertigo is the least played map. Keep in mind that Nuke is in the mappool since WAAAAYYYY longer than Vertigo. So divided by time in the pool, Vertigo has probably more playtime on average. Interesting that you played more train than overpass. You also only have 5 cbble matches. That explains why cache is so low on your list as well. Probably started playing way later than me. In the beginning it was 24/7 cache simulator. E: taking a second look you play a lot of fucking mirage. Roughly 1k matches less than me, but only 50 matches less on mirage. That's an insane amount of mirage.
2021-05-04 17:47
3 replies
Fair enough, but I think that's explained by the fact that Nuke is too hard for most pug players. I started playing in late 2016, so yeah that explains it.
2021-05-04 23:24
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That's the thing. You said you were at 3k elo. I was at 2.4k and in both instances nuke was rarely played cause people don't know how to play it. Isn't that fucking sad? You are like in the top 0,01% of the playerbase on faceit and people don't know how to play a map that is 20+ years old. Last rework was 2016 (when you started playing). I was still calling pugstrats from 2006 on it. For pugs you need to know 3-4 smokes, maybe a mollo and a flash (which you can throw on the fly anyway) and be able to use your brain. But yeah, people still don't know how to rotate on ct-side in 2021. Too hard... if taking 15minutes to learn some util. and thinking about rotations and stuff to do is hard then it explains why we have 15 yr olds who are better than people who play for years. I am so glad I stopped playing this game. Just thinking about it, makes me mad.
2021-05-05 09:17
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I mean, it for sure is, I think Nuke is truly a masterpiece, it's sad that most people can't be bothered learning it. Really, it's a shame as it's a very unique map too. At least where I'm playing right now, most people can play Nuke at a decent level, so it's not as bad, but when I used to play free 5v5 soloQ, oh boy, were people lost on that map... And about the amount of mirage games I have played, well that's just Faceit being Faceit nowadays. Mirage is THE map to play on Faceit, at least it was in free 5v5. As I was usually not the captain, I didn't really have a choice, but I definitely wouldn't have played this much mirage. But on the flipside, where I'm playing now, mirage isn't the only map being spammed. Whenever I'm the captain I like banning mirage as anyone can have a lifegame on it against me. Hence my mere 51% winrate on it. I like taking it to other, more exotic maps such as Overpass, Train, Nuke and Inferno... hell even Dust2. I still hate Vertigo (Dust2 too... but at least I can play very well there and it's really just an aim map so...)
2021-05-05 09:35
#28
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Poland kaspr02
eggzacklee
2021-05-04 16:15
ancient is probably the map that was released on the best state out of all the new csgo maps, not as shit as overpass or vertigo were imo, ofc there are some changes to be made but not drastic ones like the two I mentioned
2021-05-04 16:16
#34
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Germany F0kussi3rt
ppl 1 Day ago: FUCK VOLVO THEY NEVER CHANGE ANYTHING Today: FUCK VOLVO THEY ALWAYS CHANGE EVERYTHING
2021-05-04 16:22
1 reply
+1 community is not worth it. they would play with the 7 maps forever for 8 years in a row without changing anything, and then they would complain why is my game dying.
2021-05-04 18:02
+1
2021-05-04 16:25
Dude I get 140 fps on other maps and 65 on ancient. Why shouldn't I hate it(at least for now)?
2021-05-04 16:40
#51
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Finland Eestu
I'm fine with the addition of new maps, but with the little experience that I have with Ancient - I just don't like it. A map like Tuscan would've been great and there probably would've been less backlash as well. I guess it's more about the map that's being added and about the map that's being removed from the map pool. For example a lot of people have been complaining about Mirage, Dust 2, Vertigo and Overpass and then Valve decides to remove Train? And also from day one, I heard mostly negative feedback about Ancient, so I don't necessarily think it was the best possible addition to the map pool. Although I don't like Ancient too much, it's what we have now and it's what we have to work with moving forward. :) Hopefully it'll get better with new updates and features!
2021-05-04 16:44
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#73
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Latvia CVJMZ
Agree on what you saying, im just really mad about it because they removed train instead of dust, mirage. Train in my eyes should be in map pool whatever it costs because of that specific map layout. Played once Ancient, didnt like for sure, chaotic layout. Tuscan would be op if they can make similar to 1.6 layout.
2021-05-04 20:38
I hate that jungle theme. So messy and layout is't that great. But I still wait to see some pro games played on Ancient :D
2021-05-04 18:19
coz ancient ugly af
2021-05-04 20:23
+1
2021-05-05 09:15
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