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Spain Sneakers 
Actually GJ.. thanks for not listening to the loud forum/socialmedia keyboard warriors. Train - 7/7 as the least played map in pro scene - twitter.com/vooCSGO/status/1389353921550.. 5/7 of the least played map in competitive pool, not counting cache in that chart twitter.com/Nors3/status/138940795398429.. Community was asking for something NEW and FRESH to the pool, pro scene as well. Valve does it. Community, also pros*, why train? Valve: stats are clear. Less played map goes out. -Ancient has a lot of potential, with feedback and thats what they do. Because u know what? NOBODY PLAYS THE MAPS THAT GET ADDED INTO CASUAL POOL. -Tuscan: not finished map, so everyone who says add tuscan, chill. It needs 6 months at the least. -Cbble: boring map, had same treatment, was one of the least played maps, stale and repetitive, nostalgia wont change, and if they re-added it in 2 months we would become the most boring esport game. -Cache: few people liked that rework, and it didnt change anything that needed to be changed, just the same map.
2021-05-04 13:28
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Although i completely agree with you, saying Cobble is boring is 2iq It made even Big vs Immortals exciting and VPs nades were always amazing to watch. Olof lurking out long and then the crazy fights that would happen on mid, Snax knife on long. Its a great map with a sick history
2021-05-04 13:30
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Ireland JesuSenia
Comparing old cobble to new cobble XDDDDD
2021-05-04 13:31
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True but i'd hope they do some improvements before releasing again
2021-05-04 17:19
had VP vs SK, and a few other great matches. Other than that, it was not that exciting of a map.
2021-05-04 13:35
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
The map isn't boring, it was stale, wich made ir boring to watch. Same with mirage and D2, not Boring, just stale
2021-05-04 23:15
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Italy I_like_csgo
Yeah it makes sense to remove Train from Valve's standpoint
2021-05-04 13:30
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they always check data, and people dont realize that. It doesnt matter what a few loud people say behind the keyboard that if the other says different, then they wont "care"
2021-05-04 13:35
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and thats why Dust 2 and Mirage will never be removed
2021-05-04 14:18
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dust2 was removed tbh, and mirage just waiting for a highly popular demand map comes in, could be tuscan. I mean we saying they "removed" but only thing is they not in active duty pool (which does a lot.. yeah), but u can still play train xD
2021-05-04 14:19
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I know, but the point is, they are using data, if they use data in the next map change aswell, i doubt dust 2 or ever mirage will be on ice
2021-05-04 14:20
Yeah
2021-05-04 14:53
i miss cache tho
2021-05-04 13:31
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cache doesnt seem like it will return, even FMPONE doesnt care about it cuz he is passionate about making HL:A mods, which look amazing btw. He is always talking great stuff about Source2
2021-05-04 13:37
actually +1 idk why i love the odd maps new nuke/vertigo and now this one
2021-05-04 13:31
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Indonesia woooi15
vertigo is cool, i dont know why everyone hates it
2021-05-04 13:32
yes, but why did they add ancient and not cobble or cache? I don't like your reasoning, honestly everyone wanted cobble back and if you dont like the greeny stuff on cache maybe they can play on the older version because there is no gameplay changes
2021-05-04 13:31
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Ireland JesuSenia
Nobody likes new cobble
2021-05-04 13:32
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Indonesia woooi15
only boomers want cbble, nostalgia, its like vertigo but more boring
2021-05-04 13:34
cuz they want to have new maps over old ones. Its pretty clear, with vertigo, ancient, likely new tuscan after Major, and so on. And thats imo the right thing to do. I dont want to become a WoW 2.0 but for shooters.
2021-05-04 14:11
nobody would have played the new cobble, they don't even play it in casual/dm so why would they play it in comp
2021-05-04 14:40
cobblestone is a failed map in valve's book. It wasn't ever played by pros or casuals, the rework was despised. they are not going to add it back. Cache is the same as mirage and dust2 as well. Same style of of play, anyways. The new one has been widely disliked, nobody plays it even though it's already in the game. Cache was never realistically coming back
2021-05-04 15:18
valve doesnt care about the game it just destroys the game. ez4volvo
2021-05-04 13:32
it was a good move if they can rework train and make it fresh again and then -mirage
2021-05-04 13:32
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likely +new tuscan. Valve is watching, so if new tuscan is actually good they will add it. New train idk if its coming back ever again, unless Source 2 port, and they remake it with hammer 2, which would be massive
2021-05-04 14:13
-mirage will never happen, since valve took out train according to data, I very much doubt one of the most played maps will ever be removed soon
2021-05-04 14:19
Yes I am excited mensssss But manyyyyyy bugs will have to be fixed probably: twitter.com/s1mpleO/status/1389537081320.. will it already be in the major this year? or still train?
2021-05-04 13:33
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Same im really hyped to see a fresh new map. It is for sure going to be in the Major. And likely IEM summer too as the first tournament as its tradition to change the maps Valve does. First RMRs still with train tho as they in the middle of the tournaments
2021-05-04 14:15
yes, that's why they add it!
2021-05-04 22:06
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Nice, I love you!
2021-05-04 23:08
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Wut 🤔😳
2021-05-04 23:28
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Ik hou van u!
2021-05-05 00:23
Dust2 got removed when it was still played a lot because it was stale and needed a remake. Same applies to mirage
2021-05-04 13:35
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yeah there is 2 sides actually, sometimes its because it becomes too stale and the other is because its too little played map. So it did surprise me a bit it wasnt mirage, but i do think it will be removed (after the Major). Its been 2 years tho, cuz of pandemic, so i do also expect more map pool changes faster now. As it was tradition by Valve too. Just returning back to their basics
2021-05-04 14:25
+1, can't agree more
2021-05-04 13:37
Exactly people just like to complain
2021-05-04 13:37
They could have atl fixed the bugs and fps drops on it and make it less ct sided before doing it
2021-05-04 13:40
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North America 007DBR9
bit hypocritical of you saying "something fresh" and "new" even though they didn't remove the most overplayed and stale map
2021-05-04 13:44
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they were just unable to fix train to make it balanced so they change the maps, ez
2021-05-04 14:13
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North America 007DBR9
the maps don't need to be balanced, you play on both sides, there needs to be a variety of options on either side
2021-05-04 14:22
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That's why they balanced nuke, it was so fun when you were getting 14-1'd on T side
2021-05-04 14:38
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Cambodia CyBeRv!
i think it's not that much of being balanced but from ppl actually learning to counter-strat things. Liquid also got 14-1'd t side against not other than Dignitas (with all due respect), they also got stomped by faze 16-3 i think even on the ct side, so yeah, it's all about countering what other team does
2021-05-04 15:22
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No. You don't understand. I'm talking about the former Nuke, the one where it was impossible to win on T-Side.
2021-05-04 15:53
cbble and cache need to be back, tuscan would be great as well. dunno about this new map, never seen/played it.
2021-05-04 14:16
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at least u admit u never seen or played it, and didnt comment on it being trash xD (like everyone does smfh) But there is a pattern at Valve i notice, they want new maps and not return to the past. and i respect that
2021-05-04 14:27
Cobble has been out of the pool for so long, and now has that huge fast B route for Ts cut off, giving the CTs a lot more room over on B. That, coupled with how long it's been out should make it exciting for awhile, since there are a lot of new teams and players in the scene and there's room for a lot more innovation now. If Ancient never takes off in the pro scene, then I'd like to see Cobble back before or Tuscan.
2021-05-04 14:16
When are they gonna rework mirage tho? So tired of that map
2021-05-04 14:20
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Next map pool change could be, in about 6 months after the Major, thats my take.
2021-05-04 15:48
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Serbia eliiiiii_
thanks for finally bringing some intelligent life into this community
2021-05-04 14:26
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lol this guy is baiting, he always creates threads where he praises valve for their dumb decisions xD just check his account
2021-05-04 15:02
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#44
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Serbia eliiiiii_
doesn't matter, I agreed to what he typed
2021-05-04 15:13
-over +tuscan perfect... Mirage,inferno,d2,nuke,ancient,vertigo and tuscan good map pool
2021-05-04 14:51
+1
2021-05-04 14:57
+1. But, what's the reason behind Anubis not being added and totally removed from the game?
2021-05-04 14:57
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Cambodia CyBeRv!
i guess it wasn't popular among the community, and if you ask why they added ancient above every other map they could've added, it's because it's valves map and they don't care about anything - they like it - they implement it...
2021-05-04 17:16
props to Valve, currently playing vs 3 spinbotters, only 1 spinbotter on my team
2021-05-04 15:00
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Germany Droidd
they should do event with hostage maps only it'd be funny af
2021-05-04 15:41
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#49
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Dominican Republic NNNumb
-mirage or d2 +hostage map will be nice
2021-05-04 15:45
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#50
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Germany Droidd
Nah hostage aint that good for actual serious events I was just thinking for like a showmatch or a small event
2021-05-04 15:48
#53
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Yesssss. You Said it all bro, you absolute God.
2021-05-04 16:12
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France Yougz
100% agree with you, I don't know why so much people are crying rn
2021-05-04 16:18
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Always on the side of critical thinking and not emotional side talk. None of what the furious angry CS players (that only queue mirage nonstop) help. train might just return in a few years, with a fresh new facelift. In fact, if in 5 years CS map pool we have now looks completely different, i would even say thats even better, cuz that means CS is evolving. And not staying back.
2021-05-05 00:02
I don't really care, but ancient is just awful tbh
2021-05-04 22:04
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Finland nexustron
It is not tbh, it is flawed but it will be changed a lot over the coming months based on the data Valve collect. This is way healthier for CS to release a map 6 months before a Major unlike was done with Cbble and Overpass back in the day.
2021-05-04 22:07
+1 thanks for putting it all in one thread
2021-05-04 22:04
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Finland nexustron
+1 This was a good move by Valve in my opinion.
2021-05-04 22:07
It is stupid because when you kick comfort zone maps like an inferno, then pro players have actually to work hard to perform well. The consequences would be they would play more train.
2021-05-04 23:11
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Portugal hpn-
That's it. And ancient is far from being finished. Every single map Valve added they worked after community reported bugs and provided some feedback. Just take the example of overpass, how it was and now, for me, one of the best maps to watch and play. The only way they could make a map improve is by forcing the players to play it, otherwise no one would ever play ancient. Next -mirage + tuscan pls.
2021-05-04 23:14
CSGO community not complaining about anything for 1 day challenge (imposibble)
2021-05-04 23:30
I agree
2021-05-05 00:04
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