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-MIRAGE IS DUMB
EddezeNNN | 
Iceland EddezeNNN 
people that think -mirage are incredibly ignorant twitter.com/Nors3/status/138940795398429.. why remove the map 30% of games take place on? The map that everyone picks because they feel comfortable on it? If all comfortable maps are removed = game will die made sense to remvoe train when nobody played it, even cache has more people playing lmao imo -ancient -vertigo +cache +cobble to shift people from valorant to cs again
2021-05-04 23:25
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#2
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Denmark KalasYoP
D2 and Mir are best maps!
2021-05-04 23:26
6 replies
agreed that is why people play them the most (43% combined play rate)
2021-05-04 23:27
Being the easiest PUG maps and the maps that has the lowest skill ceiling for executes and tactics, it makes total sense that they are the most played maps. But PUG / MM is not = how the game should be played on a Pro level.. Imagine pugs doing set smoke executes on Train.. wont happen. Even if those 2 maps were out of active, they wouldstill Be played due to their easy access for PUGs..
2021-05-04 23:31
3 replies
only a small minority of people are playing pro lol. It makes sense to keep maps like mirage and d2 for the majority of people playing the game but also keep maps like nuke for pros and delusional 5 queues
2021-05-04 23:33
2 replies
I understand your POV and i agree with you to a degree. But you do not need to be a pro to play with a team or play "competitive" or in a league. D2 and Mirage are rather dull maps in those regards. You do not need to remove D2 and Mirage from the game, but simply take them out of the competitive map pool. The maps would still be available. Even on faceit, cache is currently also available despite not being in the map pool, and the same would apply to matchmaking.
2021-05-05 09:44
1 reply
+1 nuke is also an underrated pug map since 90 percent of the time people has no clue what they are doing so its just aim duels
2021-05-05 10:00
+1
2021-05-05 09:47
#4
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Poland Zadymek
-DUST2 i cant play this map. is so old and boring
2021-05-04 23:27
2 replies
#19
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Portugal 3dent
facts 8/8 +1111111111111111
2021-05-04 23:33
1 reply
+1
2021-05-05 09:47
cache is a garbage map. worse version of mirage. new cbble is dogshit. vertigo is fun to play but shit to watch. ancient can be fixed. remove d2 everyone knows mirage and they can still play d2 on the non active duty map pool.
2021-05-04 23:27
6 replies
people disagree with u based on these play rates. Even the disgusting green cache with the awful new mid window is better than train honestly cobble is better than ancient and vertigo will ever be. And how is new cobble dogshit lol, I see so many people make this argument but nobody ever explains why. I've played it a few times and I enjoyed it. Imo dust 2 is better than vertigo that 2% of people play
2021-05-04 23:29
From all maps overpass needs to go first imo. D2 only needs to fix that paper double dours
2021-05-04 23:37
4 replies
overpass is the last map that should be removed. great tactical map for pro play. stop balancing for mm and balance for pro play. D2 need to fix Long bullshit and double doors
2021-05-04 23:37
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I am worried what map they will add instead of Train Because If it will be Cache or Cobble map pool will be even worse
2021-05-04 23:44
2 replies
nah I dont think they ever add cbble or cache in their current states.
2021-05-04 23:50
#77
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Lithuania Ufasas
its better be cobble, to trash gold novas that want to be globals, fricken trashcans
2021-05-05 11:10
#7
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Denmark pebblez
Edd, Because we want it to be removed from the Competitive Pro Map Pool? Not MM so the game won't "die" mate and Vertigo has become a really good map while Cache is a very boring map that would be very T-sided.
2021-05-04 23:29
#8
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United States NABOT
"why remove the map 30% of games take place on? The map that everyone picks because they feel comfortable on it?" the WHOLE point is to switch it up so the game doesn't become stale. people will adapt, they always have. and while many people feel "comfortable" many people are getting really fucking bored of it (like me)
2021-05-04 23:28
13 replies
if you think that way you are just bad at the game honestly, you care only about "switching things up" when people that are good care about winning. I think there should be a mix of maps that people know how to play (mirage, inferno, d2) and maps that are more complex for pro games (nuke, inferno also), but removing a map because lots of people love to play it is the worst thing a company trying to attract people to playing their game can do
2021-05-04 23:31
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#15
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United States NABOT
People leave because the game is stale, switching it up is the best thing you can do. Let people learn new maps instead of clinging to old ones forever.
2021-05-04 23:32
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#17
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United States NABOT
New content attracts new players too.
2021-05-04 23:33
0 iq response lol, people are only playing the game because they feel comfortable on it. If valve changes everything there is no reason to stay on cs when valorant will provide those changes in a better way people playing the game for 5000 hours arent playing because they want changes
2021-05-04 23:36
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#27
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United States NABOT
It'll be worth all the new players even if we lose some of the current ones. Which we won't, people stay for shooting mechanics and general feel of the game (valorant mechanics are shit).
2021-05-04 23:36
3 replies
new people wont start playing the game just because valve removes mirage, nor will people come back from valorant because valve removed mirage lol. People didn't leave because mirage was in the map pool, people left because they preferred the game mechanics to cs. If the majority of remaining players are playing mirage, even valve realizes that removing mirage is an awful idea
2021-05-04 23:38
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#35
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United States NABOT
Now you're just lying about why people left. People left because it was a breath of fresh air from cs. It's some different, not better or worse.
2021-05-04 23:39
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how am i lying lol, how can there be only one reason for why people leave the game? All I can say for certain is that 30% of people play mirage for a reason, not because they're bored of the map
2021-05-04 23:41
#22
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United States NABOT
I want to win, I just get bored after winning on the same map so many times.
2021-05-04 23:34
4 replies
u arent winning at all bro i think its obvious if you hate the easiest map to win on XD
2021-05-04 23:35
3 replies
#29
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United States NABOT
interesting logic...........
2021-05-04 23:36
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#48
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United States B0OMER
if u want to play new maps every 3 months then go play rainbow six siege
2021-05-04 23:47
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#56
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United States NABOT
when did I say every 3 months? remind me how long mirage has been in the map pool for?
2021-05-04 23:52
Lol, they just added Vertigo and have been constantly working on it, obviously it wont be removed any time soon. If they removed it, they would have done all the work for basically nothing.
2021-05-04 23:29
2 replies
valve didnt seem to care about the work done on cache or cobble though lol
2021-05-04 23:31
1 reply
Because Valve did not make those maps. Valve loves their own shit and try to push it on everyone.
2021-05-04 23:33
#21
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Europe Nomarosa
-train was the best decision
2021-05-04 23:33
1 reply
true
2021-05-04 23:36
Yeah don't remove mirage. Remove Dust 2. EZ map pool with ancient, bring back train.
2021-05-04 23:38
2 replies
id still rather have dust 2 than train , these statistics affirm that since x2 people play d2 over train although with only 2.9% of people playing vertigo im surprised valve aren't removing it too lol
2021-05-04 23:39
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Dust 2 is being played since forever the exact same amount (a lot). The argument is that the map just saturated, either remove and bring it back in a very different way, or remove it from the map pool, people will keep playing it in MM and faceit anyway.
2021-05-04 23:41
Personally I'd prefer rotation system so the oldest map in the pool is swapped out, irrelevant of popularity so not the same maps stays forever in the pool. Even the most popular maps gets boring watching over and over again. Also I don't like Valve being the dictator, would rather see a democtratic voting process, say every major one member of every Top-30 team for example gets to cast a vote and the most voted map gets added to the pool and played in the next major. I only talk from a spectator point of view myself as I don't play the game but watch pretty much any tournament with some T1 teams participating.
2021-05-04 23:52
Guys lets be real. Alot of players dont even smoke jungle proparly. How come people knows timings smokes etc on train. When you play train in lower ranks you get eye cancer and get lost in the map. People dont even know the call outs. So for casual players mirage is good just like dust 2 in 1.6. But for pro scene we need fresh maps and new tactics.
2021-05-04 23:42
4 replies
even on my smurf people know ct stairs and jungle smokes perfectly xd
2021-05-04 23:43
3 replies
Stairs smoke is the easy but jungle is always missed or not smoked. i dont know what you talk about
2021-05-04 23:46
2 replies
do you mean bench (the area that covers connector) or deep jungle?
2021-05-04 23:47
1 reply
between stairs and the wall. youtube.com/watch?v=Bd3jmQ3gyUI
2021-05-05 11:02
Mirage and dust 2 is higher probably because those are the only maps where good portion of people get stable fps with a potato pc xD
2021-05-04 23:43
2 replies
all the more reason to keep the maps in the game
2021-05-04 23:44
#57
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Pakistan LoOuU2
a guy i know plays Mirage only for that exact same reason , got a potato laptop.
2021-05-05 00:00
mono mirage spotted
2021-05-04 23:44
YOU CAN REMOVE MIRAGE FROM THE PRO PLAY MAP POOL WITHOUT REMOVING IT FROM MATCHMAKING/FACEIT
2021-05-04 23:46
1 reply
that assumes faceit will keep it (when they didnt keep cobble and just removed cache)
2021-05-04 23:48
I mean just because they remove a map from the pro circuit rotation doesn't mean we can't play it. Cache hasn't been played professionally in a while but we can still play cache in mm.
2021-05-04 23:49
4 replies
2021-05-05 00:09
3 replies
most people dont place faceit who cares
2021-05-05 04:00
2 replies
your opinion has lost all credibility LOL
2021-05-05 04:00
1 reply
I bet 90% of the 400,000+ people playing right now have never used faceit and half of them have probably never even heard of it
2021-05-05 05:10
It’s for the pro map rotation tho right? Train will still be in map pool. Trains fun to watch but IMO awful to play it feels like an aim map and too awp dominated.
2021-05-04 23:49
Eddezenn i dont understand man. You have 1.4k matches of mirage arent you tired of the same old map?
2021-05-05 04:03
Why are you mentioning Valorant in a map pool change, CS is not dying...
2021-05-05 04:46
-Vertigo -Ancient +Cache +Train
2021-05-05 05:17
#71
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Finland Ninjamaa
Why would anyone not want pro matches not be played on more strategical, harder to play maps And Face-It is just wannabe pro's so it makes sense for them to change
2021-05-05 09:49
#72
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Denmark |Metric|
Jesus Christ cobble and cache?? Seriously?? Like why tf so many people just wanna play those same old maps over and over? Good lord that valve doesn't listens to this community. Let us have new maps you idiots, let us have NEW NEW MAPS NOT THE OLD MAPS OVER AND OVER AGAIN
2021-05-05 09:54
-dust or -overpass
2021-05-05 09:55
so many bots cry go look to get gold nova first and then speak omg
2021-05-05 11:21
cache is valulrant map
2021-05-05 11:23
i'm waiting for tuscan
2021-05-05 11:26
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