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Poland SebastjenKnerc 
I just remembered that FL1T could have entered NaVi in 2020 instead of Perfecto. hltv.org/player/12732/fl1t - stats But he didn't want to leave Forze for some reason. Do you think something would have changed had he joined NaVi?
2021-05-06 10:36
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#1
GuardiaN | 
Finland eIe
Was it FL1T not wanting or the org not letting him by having an insane buyout price? I remember Qikert refused an offer
2021-05-06 10:37
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#3
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Norway Norvegiya2k
forze supposedly wanted 1.5 million dollars for him XD
2021-05-06 10:38
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#4
GuardiaN | 
Finland eIe
Yeah, but I dont think it was revealed whether FL1T wanted to join or not
2021-05-06 10:39
I still recall FL1T not wanting to join NaVi for some reason
2021-05-06 10:39
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#7
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Norway Norvegiya2k
well im glad perfecto joined
2021-05-06 10:40
9 replies
+1 he's great
2021-05-06 10:41
he bot tho why u glad
2021-05-06 15:40
5 replies
he's talking about perfecto, not about device
2021-05-06 16:30
3 replies
yeah, perfecto is dog
2021-05-06 17:08
1 reply
#86
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Lithuania dozzah
device =/= perfecto? dog =/= god?
2021-05-06 19:57
Say whatever makes you feel good mate, i don't care
2021-05-06 19:55
+1
2021-05-06 16:30
+1 Perfecto is clearly an amazing pickup
2021-05-06 19:01
why would anyone join a team just to be s1mples dog
2021-05-06 10:47
25 replies
#23
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Denmark Yikesslol
to be carried?
2021-05-06 10:55
16 replies
carried to 8th place?
2021-05-06 11:07
15 replies
#28
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Denmark Yikesslol
carried in every match they play
2021-05-06 11:09
14 replies
doesnt matter if you get carried if you lose every match tho
2021-05-06 13:26
13 replies
#44
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Denmark Yikesslol
If you get carried, you get carried. It's not the guy carrying you's fault you lose. And navi isnt losing every match, nearly every match but yeah :)
2021-05-06 13:54
9 replies
It is his fault when the entire system of the team depends on setting one person up for success, and the outcome of the game resting solely on one person
2021-05-06 16:29
8 replies
#61
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Bangladesh Santho
How are they setting him up more than other star role players? Everyone else in his team is just bad. When electronic was in form, consistent 1.15/20+ rating they were solid top 3, even top 1 team. Now his form is worse and perfecto with burger and bit cant shoot too.
2021-05-06 16:34
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You need to watch their games if you don't think he gets set up more than other teams. Their main problem resides with boombl4 though. He's not a fragger, and his IGLing certainly doesn't make up for it
2021-05-06 16:41
#74
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Denmark Yikesslol
Stop using the excuse "he is getting set up" lol. This is not 2018 navi, they are a team nowadays, and s1mple is a monster.
2021-05-06 16:53
5 replies
they definitely are not a team lol, it's s1mple and co.
2021-05-06 16:59
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#83
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Denmark Yikesslol
that's what I'm saying?
2021-05-06 18:55
3 replies
"... they are a team nowadays," ?????
2021-05-06 20:05
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#90
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Denmark Yikesslol
Yes, in the sense that they actually are a team. Not setting s1mple up like 2018... did you even read my comment lol?
2021-05-06 20:20
1 reply
s1mple decides what goes and what doesn't in that team, like I said: "It's s1mple and co." they're not a team
2021-05-06 20:21
I saw you with astralis flair Now turned to nip after device moves to nip Keep your opinions to yourself You can never support professional cs plastic fan
2021-05-06 16:49
2 replies
because it's the end of the astralis era, and I used to support NiP back in the f0rest and GTR days, however now their squad is quite likeable again with REZ, Plopski and dev1ce also, you've never seen me with an astralis flair, cus I've never had it and also never been a fan of theirs outside of me also being from Denmark, so nt
2021-05-06 17:01
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Nip are yet to play a match I hope them to succeed but its such a toss Obv they will succeed but i believe that will happen somewhere in August astralis have been doing well with bubjski this tourney
2021-05-07 08:56
when you watch what forze play for and then what watch what navi plays for...
2021-05-06 11:27
because they're the biggest org in cis? lmao
2021-05-06 13:27
You either have no idea what you're talking about, or you're trying to trigger fanboys xD. I think it's the latter, since you are a fellow Dane.
2021-05-06 14:05
5 replies
explain to me then, since I don't know what I'm talking about, what I'm so wrong about
2021-05-06 15:35
4 replies
1) Navi has been a Top10 contending team for 12 years in a row, and are still going strong, regardless of the players. Forze is literally a joke compared to that, and I think you know it. 2) Navi is a default partner team of *every* big TO, and thus the players have the opportunity to *always* compete in big tournaments with big prize-pools, because of free invites. This means more money, more exposure, more sponsors for the individual players as well. 3) Navi makes it to the playoffs of literally *every* single big tournament. They have been doing that since the past several years in a row now, with a few exceptions. Forze has to keep playing Tier3 qualifiers for 1000 dollars, while Navi plays million dollar tournaments with 500K+ viewers. This also automatically means, Navi players have much higher salary than Forze players. 4) I'm pretty sure s1mple isn't as toxic as he was in 2016. Simply because, I am no longer the aggressive hyperactive teenager, that I was 6 years ago. I've changed and so can other people. Now you tell me, why would a player from a team like Forze, who never had any of the above things, not want to go to Navi and have those things? Because some people said that s1mple is toxic? Are you actually serious?
2021-05-06 16:31
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s1mple wants to win a major, he hasn't ever won one, why do you think that is?
2021-05-06 16:36
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Don't you see the obvious point? Don't you understand the difference (in terms of social, economical, career, etc) between being a player from a mediocre Tier2/Tier3 org, and a Top Tier1 org? Even if s1mple never wins a major for whatever reason, how is being a Forze player better for his career than being a Navi player? He has far lesser salary, far lesser opportunities, far lesser brand endorsements, far lesser fans and viewership, and on and on, being a Forze player. In CIS region, the difference in brand value is as big as that between Astralis and Mad Lions. You can't compare the two orgs.
2021-05-06 16:43
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#93
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Ukraine GluckFM
Forze was on a rise back then, approaching top5, if im not mistaken, while Navi just changed IGL and kucked Edward. He made a gamble and he lost. No one said anything about high buyout.
2021-05-06 20:35
twitlonger.com/show/n_1sr4d3i ***Of course we took our time to speak with FL1T and it was clear for all of us - he decided to stay with us, to stay in forZe eSports. So that’s the whole story, guys.***
2021-05-06 10:41
10 replies
I see
2021-05-06 10:41
idk why he even stayed in forze, maybe had high expectations?
2021-05-06 10:42
8 replies
#38
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Russia CYETA
well forze will be better than navi eventually, much stronger roster
2021-05-06 13:27
7 replies
XD
2021-05-06 13:51
6 replies
#41
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Russia CYETA
XD if you think boombl4 and perfecto can match the firepower of forze
2021-05-06 13:52
5 replies
bro just stop saying stupid things
2021-05-06 13:52
4 replies
#43
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Russia CYETA
see you in CIS RMR when navi will lose to gambit, forze, spirit, epg simply because of having 0 firepower lmao
2021-05-06 13:53
3 replies
hahaha okey man, believe whatever you want.
2021-05-06 13:54
2 replies
#48
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Russia CYETA
forze already won vp, col, spirit and furia while having zorte with 38 temperature and flu, and kensi whos playing with 15% loss, you're delusional one if you think they wont have any chances against navi considering they all will be on bootcamp too
2021-05-06 13:56
1 reply
we will see
2021-05-06 13:58
NA'VI did the same thing, they overpriced s1mple and flamie so they'd not go to MIBR. Understandable by ForZe
2021-05-06 11:02
Perfecto > spinbot
2021-05-06 10:38
#8
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Ukraine Najara
nothing changed
2021-05-06 10:40
forZe asked $1.5kk for him. For example EG bought NRG lineup for $3kk (and it's when they were on their prime). It doesn't matter how good FL1T is/was good in forZe, he doesn't worth so much.
2021-05-06 10:44
3 replies
"kk" wtf is that? Why not just say "m"
2021-05-06 17:09
2 replies
but 1kkk is cooler than 1b.
2021-05-06 22:26
1 reply
Oh ok. In spanish 1B is actually more than that, so instead we use "1 thousand millions" for 1B.
2021-05-06 22:53
#13
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Russia M1shV4T
-elec + fl1t
2021-05-06 10:42
2 replies
#32
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Korea ramza72
You want remove Right hand of s1mple one of God rifle top 5 2018 2020
2021-05-06 11:22
1 reply
jebaited
2021-05-07 05:05
#15
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Greece m3s0v
Yes lets +every russian player to Navi until they can be top1. No. /close
2021-05-06 10:44
Perfecto has never been the problem in navi, hes one of the reasons they were succesful in the first place
2021-05-06 10:45
4 replies
+1
2021-05-06 10:47
#20
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Blade is the problem not giving Boomich the room and independence to work with is the problem running the same strats of attacking the site at last second since Zeus days , thats the problem.
2021-05-06 10:49
#21
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Ukraine yoloflaper
+1 cis clutch minister
2021-05-06 10:49
1 reply
#51
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Russia Thfthf
Some players switch to a super hero mode and start playing 150% when left alone. Sad it couldnt be said about flamie, he started playing 50%...
2021-05-06 13:58
#19
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Germany Constikdw
Perfecto is a very good player in his roles. He is less of a problem atm than electronic, boombl4 and b1t/flamie
2021-05-06 10:48
1 reply
yeah sad to see electronic dropping off
2021-05-06 10:55
perfecto also had good stats on syman vs similar opponents as fl1t on forze, it's just hard to perform as well when s1mple is baiting so hard
2021-05-06 11:00
1 reply
Perfecto is playing a different role, also it's obvious that going from tier3 to tier1 your stats are going to drop
2021-05-06 11:16
He wanted to join NAVI but ForZe didn't sell him
2021-05-06 11:09
1 reply
#33
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Korea ramza72
Yeah flit and s1mple always play togehter in fpl too
2021-05-06 11:23
#36
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Spain kE01
its all about roles -.-
2021-05-06 11:42
#45
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Russia Thfthf
It could be: Fl1t B1t S1mple Electron1c Boom1ch
2021-05-06 13:54
#47
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Russia inejxx
forZe > NAVI
2021-05-06 13:55
3 replies
-8/8
2021-05-06 16:43
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#81
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Russia inejxx
That's just true. Not any reason for a forZe player to leave for NAVI.
2021-05-06 17:22
1 reply
#95
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Russia CYETA
+1 imagine leaving god zorte for baiter s1mple
2021-05-06 22:20
#49
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Spain Nepomu
Perfecto is great as support, I wouldn’t replace him
2021-05-06 13:57
1.5 mil never forget
2021-05-06 15:00
I think they asked for 1.5 million, and obviously no one would pay for that. And they also say that he did not want to go, if he was like that, he is just a mediocre player
2021-05-06 15:39
1 reply
biggest price, but 1.5m for future top 1-3 is normal. as in any transfer, this is a risk, but it can be justified fl1t has best perfomance today, like a s1mple or electronic in their best times
2021-05-06 20:03
#65
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United States breasts
perfecto>fl0t
2021-05-06 16:43
i remember that you're another russian fakeflagger
2021-05-06 16:44
I think that both Jerry got a offer and Fl1t from Na'vi but both rejected it? Thinking that their team is gonna be better. Or they had massive buyouts which is common in the CIS region.
2021-05-06 16:45
2 replies
Fl1T didn't reject, his org did. Jerry is just dumb so he rejected
2021-05-06 16:48
1 reply
lmao jerry
2021-05-06 16:50
fl1t joins na'vi = rating magically drops to 0.99
2021-05-06 16:49
3 replies
yeah it is easy to keep rating when you play online vs tier4 bots
2021-05-06 16:50
1 reply
i remember same words about s1mple and electronic a long times ago
2021-05-06 20:08
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-05-06 16:56
probably navi would lose kato 2020 hahaha
2021-05-06 16:56
#82
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United States GameZ_iwnl
it was him not wanting to leave (since ForZe were on a huge rise) and he had a stupidly high buyout
2021-05-06 17:34
Forze didnt wanna give him up and put a fcking huge buyout
2021-05-06 20:23
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