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Andorra hdz` 
hey guys i'm new to watching F1, going to watch the spanish GP qualifiers today. any cars to watch besides hamilton and verstappen? also anything else you might enlighten me with could help me get hyped into watching more? let me know menns))))))))))))))))
2021-05-08 14:17
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Watch me drive my Lamborghini Diablo VT there
2021-05-08 14:18
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do you stream NFS 4 bro
2021-05-08 14:57
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#75
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Brazil Gudrum
Loved it at ps1. Good fucking times.
2021-05-08 16:37
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I lost my PC copy but found a downloable version 2 weeks ago actually Still such a great game, was good to hear the police radio again haha
2021-05-08 17:01
perez, norris, leclerc, sainz,
2021-05-08 14:19
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perez lmao 1sec slower than verstappen
2021-05-08 16:39
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well what do you want me to say then? hamilton and verstappen are just way faster than everyone
2021-05-09 13:24
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lol sorry. Hltv habit, can't engage in a proper conversation. Maybe, in time, he will perform well but right now he can't help max against Mercedes. He is a good driver but that 2nd red bull seat is very hard to perform, I guess. So, that's why I don't think he is fun to watch rn
2021-05-09 17:47
You are many years too late, F1 stopped being worth watching around 2013 and then just became pointless in 2014.
2021-05-08 14:20
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Serbia hltvmens
0/8
2021-05-08 14:21
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Same result every race, same team every race, why watch a race that isn't really a race. The last season where 2 drivers from different teams were actually close was 2012, 2017 was not close, Hamilton won by like 50 points, the best thing you can do is watch a small scrap between 3 people for 4th, great, that means no real drama, go look at 2010, something like 4 people who could have won at the last race, 5 different winners and multiple changes in the title lead, 2012 8 different winners, title was contested between 2 people only but only 3 points apart and from different teams.
2021-05-08 15:04
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Serbia hltvmens
There is a title fight in the current season..
2021-05-08 16:14
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Its the 4th race. If you take that gap and make it consistent across the season in terms of results, Hamilton will win by something like 61 points.
2021-05-08 16:25
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if Verstappen didn't pass Hamilton outside of the circuit in Bahrain it would be a 1 point gap, bad argument
2021-05-08 16:48
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So you are saying if verstappen didnt cheat then he would be closer, its 3 races, in 2019 there was the same gap between bottas and Hamilton at this point in the season, Hamilton then won but 90 points or so, you are looking at such a small sample size that it means nothing what you can see is 2 of the 3 races had the leader win by over 20 seconds.
2021-05-08 16:53
well you haen't watched a race this season that's for sure
2021-05-08 16:19
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Only the first race was close, the last 2 the winner has won by over 20 seconds, and its only the 4th race.
2021-05-08 16:20
I agree, same everything every race, I know because I watch them. nowadays as an f1 fan you just accept there's a default order that will repeat itself every single race, just hoping you'll get a different race this time. sometimes, something cool happens. but most of the times it will mean nothing because at the end it's always HAM BOT VER no matter what.
2021-05-08 16:25
+1
2021-05-08 16:31
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Portugal OwnedBro
0/8
2021-05-08 14:22
things might change next year with the new gen
2021-05-08 14:23
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Sounds like the same things Ive heard every single year.
2021-05-08 15:04
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hmm i doubt that, new gen usually means big changes
2021-05-08 15:48
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Ok but heres the issue, the largest gains during new regs often come early as you have the most to gain and then over time it gets harder to gain more, new regs tend to suit teams with more money and resources better, so expect a large gap from one team to the rest of the field next year.
2021-05-08 16:35
You heard that because the new gen was pushed back one year cuz of covid. you really sound like a big casual
2021-05-08 16:37
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Yeah its in 2022, I know this it was meant to be this year but its next year, I know that but in 2009 they made huge changes and the racing didnt change really, the other issue is when new regs get applied it tends to harm the lower teams more and help the bigger teams as they have more resources meaning they tend to pull ahead really fast early on and the other team dont really start to catch for a good few years, it was banned in like 83 as far I know. I actually think its silly how its taking so long we know ground effect is better for racing, all you really need to do is make the wings smaller and more simplistic by limiting elements and then just allow the teams more area under the car and more freedom under the car, none of this new technology we mastered ground effect 4 decades ago.
2021-05-08 16:42
Also another issue I forgot about the weight and size of the cars they are so much bigger and heavier than they used to be go watch the mid 2000s cars and you'll see how agile and live they look and are.
2021-05-08 17:30
+1
2021-05-08 14:24
-1
2021-05-08 14:47
10/8
2021-05-08 14:47
he is right tho v6 era just sucks
2021-05-08 14:49
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Why'd they switch from v8 engines?
2021-05-08 15:11
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Because Mercedes wanted it and to be more "road relevant", basically they want to make F1 more popular with shareholders I guess by pushing fuel efficiency to be more "green". Makes me fucking sick. From this. youtube.com/watch?v=crWyLglBSTY Enough to make my ears cum to this. youtube.com/watch?v=zvtnqW3_tzk Like even the sound of the traction control fighting the engine is awesome.
2021-05-08 15:40
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no.. maybe Mercedes also wanted that, but what really happened is f1HAD to go green because basically everything kinda has to. do you imagine a show of the size of f1, not having one small bit of propaganda? they also use f1 to convey their message.
2021-05-08 16:53
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That's not correct, the amount fuel F1 burns racing is actually tiny, most of it is moving it around so no thats not valid, they burn far more in travel than even the most fuel hungry V10s did and by a massive margin. Also hybrids arent the future, so even if you do buy the climate shit you know that the technology used is not what cars will go to, so that doesn't fit either. And no not everything has to go green, if they really wanted to go green they would switch to bio fuels or something like that.
2021-05-08 16:58
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of course it is tiny, but my point is they want you to know it's still "green" regardless no, hybrids ARE the future, as a transition step before full electric. you might argue that climate change isn't real (far from the truth), but even in that case, oil will be over one day. there's a reason why eco/sustainable/green is so cool these days: the change is already happening so that we get used to not depending on oil.
2021-05-08 16:58
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No they are not the future at all they have been around for ages and have never really taken off, battery powered are also not the future either, there's a real issue with batteries, they have a really low upper limit, they are something like 100 times less energy dense than fossil fuels, we've tried making them more energy dense the results are pretty bad, they mostly just catch fire, or flat out explode, the real future cars is most likely hydrogen fuel cells that will be game changer, batteries are just not up to the task and based in rates of progression still wont be for every day people for a long time. As for climate change sure it exists but thats obvious, the climate of earth varies wildly over time, right now Co2 is 420ppm, you need over 180ppm or plants die, back when the dinosaurs existed it was around 2400ppm and the highest we know of is 9000ppm, we also know of a multiple hundred million year period where the earth had no ice caps and life persisted through all of that at higher temperatures than today, we also know that during these higher Co2 peaks more of the earth was covered in plant matter, according to ice isotope studies temperatures now are not out of the standard deviation of the earths climate. "there's a reason why eco/sustainable/green is so cool these days", its actually not cool though, there is no proof of this hence in general people are not adopting electric cars or hybrids and there's not really a massive demand for them, most people by seconds hand petrol or diesel if eco was so cool people would flock to these cars they dont, and actually the entire image around green is if anything very uncool thanks to the extreme liberals and extinction rebellion people who like to take it and run with it for an attempt at political gain. "the change is already happening so that we get used to not depending on oil.", this isn't likely if you want your economy to remain healthy and competitive you need this stuff, its that simple, the chance of us actually stopping using oil within the next 40 years is unlikely, as the you may have the technology but it needs to be cheap enough for everyone and it cant be downgrade, electric cars for instance are currently a downgrade in many ways, they will only be accepted if they can be as good as conventional cars and based on the rate of progression of batteries thats not any time soon. This is before you think of charge times then you have the ultimate issue, where does the electricity come from?
2021-05-08 17:17
+1
2021-05-08 14:54
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This is general me when I get asked if I watched the race youtube.com/watch?v=nbxYZbs97t8
2021-05-08 17:20
#25
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Reunion Esquinox
0/8
2021-05-08 14:57
+1 people who started watching recently don't understand, nothing is entertaining about f1 anymore i was bored during the imola gp even though it will be the best race of the season probably
2021-05-08 16:18
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Estonia u3ffe
actually 2006 xd
2021-05-08 16:35
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No, 2007 was good, before Hamilton was a cunt, title race was close as fuck, 2008 was the most dramatic finish ive seen in any sport ever, and ive watched sport since I was 2 so thats 20 years, 2009 was an awesome story, 2010 was just absolute fucking insanity, 2011 sucked 2012 was great, 2013 sucked and the rest are awful apart from the one season Rosberg won but then it was only between the same cars.
2021-05-08 16:38
Ferrari have shown some good pace this weekend, so could challenge for the second row considering how slow Bottas and Perez was this morning. Mclaren looked quite quick as well, so the second row of the grid is pretty hotly contested too.
2021-05-08 14:22
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Serbia hltvmens
Vettel - 4 times world champion
2021-05-08 14:22
a lot of them deserve attention, but personally i prefer leclerc, norris and russel
2021-05-08 14:22
It can be interesting. Do follow the battle between Red Bull and Mercedes Benz as well. Also check out McLaren. Rivalries haven't been formed for the season yet. Sebastian Vettel, a 4 time world champion is seeking redemption at Aston Martin and follow Mazepin for some.... Well, let's say engaging racing. Have fun mate. Hope you find it interesting )
2021-05-08 14:24
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Portugal dracø
"engaging racing" xDD it's an interesting take on that guy, I wouldn't call it racing :D
2021-05-08 15:01
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I don't wanna be banned xD But yeah. Money talks I guess ((
2021-05-08 15:21
Yeah so far this new guy kinda sucks :D
2021-05-08 16:20
If you ever feel like something isn't going your way, just remember you aren't Mazepin.
2021-05-08 14:25
norris and leglerg fight would be lovely, and feel free to laugh about mazespin noone likes him
2021-05-08 14:44
ferrari, they look better than last year, vettel 4 times champ trying to get catch up in aston martin, norris and more
2021-05-08 14:46
#18
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Georgia ikaika97
Just don't watch it
2021-05-08 14:49
You've probably chosen one of the worst GP to start watching F1. not going to lie. I'll even go as far to tell you to just skip (Next week you have MotoGP which is better anyway)
2021-05-08 14:54
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Czech Republic Scalio
Cars goin in circles for 1.5 hours, is there rly something to watch?
2021-05-08 14:54
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yes
2021-05-08 14:56
sometimes its really entertaining, but sometimes can fel asleep, overall its intresting i try to watch if i have time since im 11yo, have a tradition alredy
2021-05-08 14:57
Verstappen World Champ 2021 #fullsend
2021-05-08 14:55
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Hopefully
2021-05-08 14:57
yeah boring to watch Hamilton win, ruins f1
2021-05-08 14:58
1-Spanish GP is usually very boring. 2-It's not always about championship battle. You can watch Mclaren vs Ferrari battle for 3rd place as well.
2021-05-08 14:58
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But you can't think it like football, higher place in drivers and constructors championship means a great financial boost for the next year so drivers surely aren't in an "eh, we lost anyway" attitude. In fact, they fight harder than Mercedes or RedBull and this makes the battle more fun.
2021-05-08 15:09
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But it doesnt matter, it wont catch them up, they fight harder because they can, Mercedes know they'll win, its so comfortable, the F1 season is about the championship, its the most important thing, so when you dont have fights for it the sport loses all of its appeal. It doesnt lead anywhere, they are fighting for some number, in 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012 they were fighting for the title, people say from 2000-2004 was boring 2001 and 2003 were close, this is just pointless, you might aswell, give Mercedes 1 and 2 and then not have them race.
2021-05-08 15:22
the midfield (mclaren, ferrari, alpine, alphatauri, aston) is the only entertaining part of the sport currently. bottas will never challenge hamilton for the title and will probably lose out to max in the end. safety cars are pretty much the only thing making interesting scenarios.
2021-05-08 15:05
mazesp.in/ This guy is the next prodigy
2021-05-08 15:05
The midfield is a great battle particularly Ferrari, McLaren and Alpha Tauri. The qualifying should be fine but don't expect a very exciting race, Barcelona is my least favorite track on the calendar. It just breeds extremely boring races with unfortunate consistency.
2021-05-08 15:12
Watch the midfield battle, that's the most exciting imo. Spanish GP is a boring track most of the time, through
2021-05-08 15:16
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Netherlands n3wH0p3
Unless ur british you should be against Hamilton and in favour of Verstappen Bottas will choke on sunday most of the time no matter the qual position Russel's skill exceeds his car and should be driving at mercedes instead of bottas Perez is still mediocre but probably will get better as the season goes on Mazepin will spin Both haas's will finish last Norris could do some good stuff on the right track Aston martin really lacking compared to last year Ferrari better than last year but Mclaren should be the fav for 3rd place in the constructors championship Who to watch: Norris, Verstappen, Hamilton, Perez, Russel ( could get points in that shitbag of a car on a good day),
2021-05-08 15:19
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I dont know how anyone can be in favour of Hamilton, he has an awful personality, constantly plays victim, looks down on everyone, thinks he's oppressed, thinks everyone's racist and thinks he's doing something amazing by having his car painted black.
2021-05-08 15:30
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Portugal Troll_JuJu
damn, iv never read so much facts in a sentence
2021-05-08 16:18
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The sad thing is people will call him the best ever, he's not, like they keep mentioning race wins, its easy to hold that record when you have 23 races a season.
2021-05-08 16:28
+1
2021-05-08 17:29
mazespin
2021-05-08 15:39
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true unless goated race happens
2021-05-08 16:20
spanish gp is shit so dont need to hype
2021-05-08 16:19
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Dont know why its still on the calendar nothing ever fucking happens.
2021-05-08 16:27
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then shit monaco then azerbajian then turkey then france all of this 4 races are bad except turkey maybe
2021-05-08 16:28
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Turkey is amazing, the Istanbul circuit is good, France is awful, Azerbaijan could be good with some tweaks, dont know how you'll do that since its on pre-existing roads, Monaco is just awful.
2021-05-08 16:30
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monaco is for history and rich cunts turkey was amazing last year bcuz of rain and new asphalt with cold weather(basically tokyo drift in practice sessions lmao) but i doubt it this year it will be good azerbajian meh france is awful yeah
2021-05-08 16:32
i love how vettel got up to speed finally and stroll still beats him
2021-05-08 16:23
"any cars to watch besides hamilton and verstappen? also anything else you might enlighten me with could help me get hyped into watching more?" in modern f1 you're supposed to accept there's an expected, default order at the front, most of the times with Hamilton winning, then VER and BOT. this season there seemed to be a fairytale period for red bull but after some races things are returning to the tendency, which is: both mercedes at the front
2021-05-08 16:28
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"in modern f1 you're supposed to accept there's an expected, default order at the front" No, you're supposed to not watch it because then they will do something about it.
2021-05-08 16:30
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boomers and people like you have been doing that for years, and clearly it doesnt matter you can ignore the races all you want... there's people watching it, and it's a business with or without the older fans. it's like any entertainment show. it's gotta stay fresh for the new generations joining in and replacing the old ones. you can't have the same exact thing forever because it's going to go down.
2021-05-08 16:42
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Stay fresh? Good racing is good racing, and its not good racing, thats the issue, you can do whatever you want with the HUD and whatever the racing will speak for itself, the title race will speak for itself, but it doesn't right now as the its not competitive, the product is racing, bad racing is not some new fresh thing, its bad racing. An expected default order? the entire point of sport is the unknown, who will win, why will they win, how will they win, when you know how, why and who, what's the point?
2021-05-08 16:45
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at this very moment it's more competitive than it's been in years. the new rules aren't even running yet (until 2022) and you can already see that Liberty did something to make the races more exciting. Even last year many races were amazing with a lot of unexpected winners and podiums. Imagine what it can be next year, once the racing is closer and everything is shuffled again.
2021-05-08 16:47
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"at this very moment it's more competitive than it's been in years." Only 3 races have been done did you know that is take 2019 in the first 3 races the gap between Hamilton and Bottas was the same as today between Max and Hamilton, Hamilton won that season by about 90 points, if you take the point splits between Max and Hamilton and average it and then extend it across the season Hamilton will win by 61 points and in 2 of the races the difference between 1st and 2nd was over 20 seconds. "Even last year many races were amazing with a lot of unexpected winners and podiums" 4 different won races in 2020, thats nothing amazing, last year Hamilton won like 11 of the 17 races and he didnt even compete in one of them, the races were not amazing, you had some of the most dull races ever and the only slight bit of entertainment had nothing to do with the title race and therefore has no real long term meaning.
2021-05-08 16:52
charles leclerc bestest f1 driver
2021-05-08 16:30
shot every time mazepin comes last or spins shot every time bottas doing some weird shit and loses his leadership
2021-05-08 16:31
MAX MAX MAX SUPER MAX
2021-05-08 16:33
Ignore the top 2 teams and it will be interesting
2021-05-08 16:34
Hamilton, greatest F1 driver EVER..
2021-05-08 16:36
#77
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Canada sad_face
r/formula1 better source than HLTV
2021-05-08 16:38
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/f1/ better source than r/formula1
2021-05-08 16:40
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Canada sad_face
8kun lmao what a shithole XD
2021-05-08 17:03
#80
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Moldova nutel
anyone but haas and mercedes
2021-05-08 16:40
watch the race for 5th place it is sometimes called f1.5 or midfield battle etc. it is so much more exciting than fight for lead and harder to estimate
2021-05-08 16:40
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That's true but they rarely show these good battles on TV, we have to watch Verstappen drive alone or something like that.. big sponsors need the airtime
2021-05-08 16:45
F1 has become boring, was way better back 10-20 years ago
2021-05-08 16:43
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no it wasn't.
2021-05-08 17:17
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You had to have skill to drive the old cars, the new are way too easy, I think even Mazapin would get top-3 in a Mercedes card.. oh and the sound :D :D youtube.com/watch?v=WhK0seC-vmc
2021-05-08 17:21
Think Norris and Charles
2021-05-08 16:48
schumi jr. ofc
2021-05-08 16:51
try drinking a lot of coffee/energy/coke, so you dont fall asleep after the first two rounds
2021-05-08 16:55
Hello there, Günther Steiner here. You can take a look at schumi tomorrow when he overtakes Räikkönen at the start :D
2021-05-08 17:02
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damn, i didn't expect to get a reply from such a legend on my first F1 post. *blushface*
2021-05-08 17:04
boring af
2021-05-08 17:10
Indycar is more fun to watch. In F1 it is the exception if a Mercedes doesn't win and if any other than a Mercedes or Verstappen wins it is almost a miracle, not meaning it won't happen ever only that is so rare it means nothing for the championship. Watch F1 for the amazing tech, but if you want fun single seat racing then Indycar is much better. Or if it doesn't have to be single seat racing there is endurance racing, like for example you can watch the ALMS races for free on-line and prior races are available on youtube for free as well.
2021-05-08 17:18
Watch Mazepin. Huge talent)))))
2021-05-08 17:27
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#110
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Canada sad_face
2021-05-08 17:33
#WeSayNoToMazeSPIN
2021-05-09 13:25
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