Ngl, since than they havent won a single tournament.
0/8. Even if they were Stream sniping, with a 5 minute delay this would barely even give them a 5% edge. With the way they are playing now, no one with a brain would chalk it up to not being able to stream snipe.
Imagine if it actually was the reason, anything vitality did in online era would be disregarded
Obviously not true tho
I don't think anyone should be surprised. The reasons you listed however are not ones I agree with.
Vitality is working with a new player and in the middle of creating a new system. Stream sniping was never part of vitality's success.
Your points about Astralis are only half true. They did take an extended break which has part to do with their recent underwhelming results. You also have to understand that their system they created wasn't built around device like many people think. It was actually built around each players strengths specificly. They only lost one piece of the machine here...but when that piece of the machine is being replaced by someone with a different role(a different piece completely) This makes them have to re-create the entire machine...we won't know the full potential of this machine until its completely built...
Astralis has the potential to be a complete blunder...but also has the potential to be even better than they were with device. They are going to be different...we will find out eventually if different means better or worse.
can we fuck off with the narrative that vitality stream sniped?
There's no proof that they used the stream as an advantage,also i believe there's a heavy delay between the two so not really a solid option.