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SAVE FNATIC
JW | 
Netherlands whycrycry 
-golden get real igl with any strats
2021-05-11 21:45
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#1
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Poland humen))))
fnatic needs rework around Jackinho and Brollan
2021-05-11 21:45
13 replies
I agree. I posted this on another thread but I'll post it here again; maybe it's time they put Jackinho on Main AWP and then add Peppzor on main line up to bench JW. I think if fnatic does that, they could start looking better again with some fresh blood
2021-05-11 21:46
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#5
JW | 
Netherlands whycrycry
lol he has been main awp for a while now wdym?
2021-05-11 21:47
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#10
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Denmark pebblez
Yeah, so no point to keep JW in the roaster anymore, may as well just get a young rifler to replace JW on the rooster.
2021-05-11 21:48
3 replies
mkay its not like JW is doing great recently since on rifle
2021-05-11 21:48
oops my bad but that's pretty much what i meant JW needs to be gone since they have Jackinho on the AWP (he's much younger and way better than JW) I just think JW is putting this team down, he's not what he used to be unfortunately >:
2021-05-11 21:53
#96
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Sweden Nappev
And who should lurk?
2021-05-12 09:30
+1
2021-05-11 21:48
Keep krimz
2021-05-11 21:55
maybe and krimz he is still inpactful
2021-05-11 21:57
they should kick the whole squad and start something new... nothing else can save this washed up org from irrelevancy. last time they were good was when the whole pro scene was cheating.
2021-05-11 22:11
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#97
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Sweden Nappev
15# 17# best players last year, an alright igl in golden from his history until very recently, one up and coming awper thats above average at his peaks, and jw. ??????????????????????????? Just read the last part and i declare you a retarté
2021-05-12 09:33
Jw and krimz's contracts are ending at the end of the year
2021-05-11 22:32
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Cant wait for that. JW needs to leave asap
2021-05-11 23:15
-golden -washedW
2021-05-11 21:45
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#6
ropz | 
Norway thojo
-JWashed
2021-05-11 21:47
1 reply
mb, forget it aws JWashed
2021-05-11 21:48
#3
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Denmark pebblez
You are just jealous of his skill, how much?
2021-05-11 21:46
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#9
JW | 
Netherlands whycrycry
2 euro
2021-05-11 21:48
yes and no, there arent really any experienced igls in sweden rn so who would they pick? and golden was a pretty good igl during the start of online so something has gone wrong
2021-05-11 21:47
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#13
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Nepal askyee
at the beginning golden was unexperienced too and yeah he was insanely good on LANs / start of online but for more than a year they are playin really bad
2021-05-11 21:51
2 replies
Yeah but golden has experience in fnatic but i guess if situation doesnt get much better -golden then wait until the major and +golden then easy victories
2021-05-11 21:56
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#23
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Nepal askyee
yeah, thats 200iq play right there
2021-05-11 21:56
Take a fucking tier 3 IGL from sweden, he cant be any worse than golden at fragging, and strat wise, golden calls 80% wrong so it cant be anything other than an upgrade
2021-05-11 21:57
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true but tier 3 igls could go super wrong also, protocols and like other small stuff could easily go super wrong and then they would suck even more
2021-05-11 22:25
#75
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Sweden MalcomReed
tier 3 igls are so bad compared to tier 1s its a huge gap
2021-05-11 22:42
No. Take a tier-3 igl from Denmark. Denmark IGLs bestest
2021-05-11 23:17
-golden all fnatic need is an IGL that can awp ok. Give them 8 months, and if nothing happens then -JW
2021-05-11 21:52
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#22
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United Kingdom LeMonkke
jackinho is god awper men
2021-05-11 21:56
3 replies
I know, they need 2nd person that can awp ok for double awp setups
2021-05-11 21:58
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#35
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United Kingdom LeMonkke
ah true true, the problem is i think they want swedish comms, and there isnt many swedish awping igls, Maybe Godlofmeister ???
2021-05-11 21:59
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not a bad idea, olof is not a bad awper and his experience can be used to call, but I think they wouldn't mind if they had a Norwegian or someone from Denmark
2021-05-11 22:06
Its clear that Golden isnt up for the task of being IGL anymore. I still dont get why they didnt try out flusha for that role before he benched himself for the option to seek a new lineup were he could IGL. Fnatic is a team with 2 top 20 players and are barely in the top 30 now. Its not the players in fnatic that suck, its the fucking strats. Every round golden call wrong calls, it seems like every round fnatic win its beacuse of a good/lucky play by a player or the other team shitting the bed on a round. Its tragic to see, especially for me, cause i like fnatic.
2021-05-11 21:52
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#29
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Nepal askyee
exactly that, i felt like they only won rounds cuz of one player play, and round after they will just go one by one or lose some stupid ecos
2021-05-11 21:58
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Yes, unfortunately every round win its cause a player steps up. I am prepared to say that JW could be a really solid player again with a good IGL
2021-05-11 22:05
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#45
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Nepal askyee
of course he would, when fnatic was top team he was always the X factor and even know he plays way better than as a awper but still their strats are awful to watch
2021-05-11 22:06
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Yes its very clear that golden is the problem. Everyone calls out JW all the time, but the problem starta with the leadership.
2021-05-11 22:16
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#57
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Nepal askyee
I dont believe that one player performance (jw in that case) can change that much of a team, sure if they are top10 and want to be top5 for example then yeah, but if a team is fucking top26 and playin THAT BAD, nothing besides igl/strats can change that
2021-05-11 22:19
#16
Kaze | 
China vegt
-JW +nawwk just a thought
2021-05-11 21:52
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#31
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Nepal askyee
yeah, add another main awper, insane change
2021-05-11 21:58
#36
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
jw is not awping dude.
2021-05-11 21:59
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#80
Kaze | 
China vegt
nvm my bad. i dont know JW is not awping anymore
2021-05-11 23:06
Disband Golden to nowhere JW to streaming Brollan to some international team KRIMZ to NiP Jackinho to Dignitas
2021-05-11 21:53
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not a bad idea, and you mean krimz replaces ztr on nip, or 6th player?
2021-05-11 21:59
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Well, if ztr doesn't improve individually, then KRIMZ can replace him.
2021-05-11 22:22
+1 FPX did the same move they can easily find an igl who can frag more
2021-05-11 21:55
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but they are a team speaking english, fnatic speaking swedish
2021-05-11 22:26
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yep they can find a swedish igl and a rookie one would be bettter than golden at this time
2021-05-11 22:55
1 reply
well idk if they could get like lekro from dig that would be good but idk if they want a rookie since the major and big events are coming up and usually more experienced igls are better under the preassure
2021-05-12 09:14
#26
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United States Fyyara
:( At this point, I wish they wouldn't even win the matches they do, in order to force an overhaul.
2021-05-11 21:57
golden is terrible igl
2021-05-11 21:58
seriously golden is worst than I thought, he keeps getting more bad.. and jw still goes for the pushes that worked in 2015 but loses them rounds in 2021...........
2021-05-11 21:58
what about their 6th man? lol
2021-05-11 21:58
GLOLDEN ROAD TO 0.50 KD LUL
2021-05-11 21:59
I dont understand why fnatic isnt working. Someone with insight care to take a stab at it?
2021-05-11 22:00
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#40
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Iceland Voidsphere
In my opinion, the issues are both golden's IGLing and JW. They need a complete overhaul, just like NiP.
2021-05-11 22:01
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Wow that was in depht. Golden bad igl and jw bad.. Thats your insight? Nip needs an complete overhaul too? What makes you say that? Im thinking that we havent yet seen the current incarnation of nip play even 1 game.
2021-05-11 22:05
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#47
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Iceland Voidsphere
NiP needed an overhaul is what I meant. Anyway, what insight do you expect from hltv? JW's been in a slump for months and the only role he could actually play decent has been taken by Jackinho. And golden, well... they've had their honeymoon period when he came back, but ever since then it's been ups and downs for fnatic, just a very mediocre overall performance.
2021-05-11 22:09
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There are no options for fnatic.. Flusha left, who they gonna take in as caller? Robiin? eh, nah. I se no options for fnatic besides grinding it out improving with this team.
2021-05-11 22:13
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#52
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Iceland Voidsphere
Well, they could've given flusha a shot at IGLing, I guess? Given their recent results, it probably couldn't have gotten any worse with him as the caller.
2021-05-11 22:14
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#56
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United States Fyyara
He's tried IGLing for them, before he left the time before last. I don't think there are any clear solutions because it seems to be a mental problem. JW's trajectory is reminding me a lot of GTR's. I don't think this will have a happy ending.
2021-05-11 22:18
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#58
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Iceland Voidsphere
What about the fnatic academy? I mean, KRIMZ is a no brainer, brollan and Jackinho both have potential. That already makes three players fnatic could rebuild their roster around, as I'm not really sure if things gonna get better in the next months.
2021-05-11 22:20
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brollan has a 3yr contract and there isnt really a team for fnatic academy
2021-05-11 22:27
#65
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United States Fyyara
Fnatic Academy hasn't existed for a while now. Not since that issue that came up a couple of years ago about teams entering tournaments with both their main and academy teams. Something like that. The real issue is lack of T1 talent in Sweden, if I'm being honest. I don't even think Golden is a problem compared to how many pure aim duels Fnatic lose lately. I think we're going to see Krimz and Brollan playing with a revolving door of young Swedish players for a long time.
2021-05-11 22:28
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#71
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Iceland Voidsphere
Understandable. NiP solved their problem by signing danish dynamite :D
2021-05-11 22:38
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#72
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United States Fyyara
That whole team is so nuts now.
2021-05-11 22:39
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#73
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Iceland Voidsphere
Agreed, can't wait to see them in action.
2021-05-11 22:40
"Could have" in not an option. Unless you provide a time machine. And looking at flushas current team under his calling.. Its gonna take some time before that yields any results.
2021-05-11 22:22
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#66
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Iceland Voidsphere
Yes, sure. But in fnatic he could'vedone it in swedish at least. Anyway... tough situation for fnatic. Hard to watch, even as a mousesports fan.
2021-05-11 22:28
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It really is a tough situation for them. Like there is no options out there.. Atleast Swedish ones. Do they want to replace their caller? I dont se how because there is no one to pick up.. Their obviously not cutting krimz and brollan. Jack has been one of the few putting up decent numbers, and he was recently signed and has more to show for sure, so cutting him would be dumb. Jw is the only player that can be made a case for being replaced, but with who? Pepzor is on their team, but do we honestly believe switching jw with pepzor will bring them back? I definitely dont, it might be a minor improvent at best. And at worst it doesnt change anything and jw gets cut for no reason.. Like these are the only 2 options that I can think of, and you tell me how they look.. -golden +robiin -jw+pepzor This does not look pretty.. Fntc is fkt rn..
2021-05-12 14:36
Hmm or maybe try to steal dennis from apeks and chawzyy from gxr. Not ideal but atleast better than the other option.
2021-05-12 16:11
#38
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Iceland Voidsphere
I'm still wondering as to why they benched/kicked flusha and kept JW. Like honestly, Jackinho took the AWP role, so what's the actual benefit of keeping JW in the lineup? He's had his glorious days with the big green but sucked anytime he had to play a different role from that.
2021-05-11 22:00
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It was flusha that benched himself because he wanted to IGL and fnatic wouldnt let him for god knows why. Everyone can see that golden is the Worst IGL in all of the top 30 teams. I think with the right leadership in the games even JW could possible thrive. But with goldens MM strats that works on gold Novas even brollan look like a silver in pro games
2021-05-11 22:10
#103
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
its either golden or flusha. not jw or flusha. fnatic picked goldenand thats how downfall started
2021-05-14 12:13
JW fan talking about saving Fnatic LOL
2021-05-11 22:00
#41
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Argentina juanlavie2
-JW +Nawwk right now. -Golden +any player
2021-05-11 22:01
5 replies
jw isnt awping rn though
2021-05-11 22:13
#67
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United States Fyyara
Do you watch CS? Jackinho is their awper and Golden is their IGL.
2021-05-11 22:31
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#82
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Argentina juanlavie2
XDDD. I didn't see this game but it used to be like that. Anyways if jw isnt the awper, even more it is necessary to replace it. Also golden
2021-05-11 23:16
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#92
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United States Fyyara
If you have a better Swedish IGL in mind, lmk
2021-05-11 23:50
#104
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
jw is more impactful on rifle than on awp
2021-05-14 12:13
Nawkk Krimz Jackinho Brollan Olof
2021-05-11 22:07
2 replies
2 main awps? kkkkkkkkkkk
2021-05-11 22:15
1 reply
Both of them can play as riflers mate :))))
2021-05-14 12:02
#55
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Nepal askyee
-jw wont work, 1 player performance wont change THAT MUCH of their bad games
2021-05-11 22:18
Always they kick flusha the team turns to a shit!
2021-05-11 22:20
jw their worst player and he awp and awp need to be star = rip brollan career gg
2021-05-11 22:31
i dont think -golden is necessary but i dont think anyone can disagree that -jw is the move
2021-05-11 23:17
-jw +anyone awper with 2 hands
2021-05-11 23:19
Go international, -Golden - JW +ALEX +Nivera
2021-05-11 23:20
#87
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Finland haotickkkk
disband for save
2021-05-11 23:22
No more hunger for trophies..
2021-05-11 23:23
#89
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Albania Maltin
The best fix would be -golden -jw +joel +svedjehed/nilo. Krimz as the igl. If krimz doesnt work as an igl then drop him as well
2021-05-11 23:28
no, only if they -jw, then i would cheer for them
2021-05-11 23:29
fnatic need full rework
2021-05-11 23:30
#94
r1nkle | 
Saudi Arabia G__G
Never heard of this team Noobs
2021-05-12 09:18
I know best idea for fnatic +disband
2021-05-12 09:20
mens)) you fnatic and JW fan, me too, <3
2021-05-12 16:12
lol, just need to accept that they were good only when krieg was OP so Brollan was useful. Now, w/o krieg he sucks and team sucks as well.
2021-05-12 16:13
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