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society without religion
North America NikitaMazepin 
what would it look like?
2021-05-12 01:47
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Germany kekeke_
you can’t know.
2021-05-12 01:48
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Sweden Nappev
2021-05-12 01:48
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so like Brasil in a few years
2021-05-12 01:52
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Brazil MlNE
why people use this image to show what the future is gonna be like? this city is so gray and boring, i can name alot of countries that looks better than this, the only nice thing in there is the flying cars and the disabled men being able to have an arm
2021-05-12 02:03
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United States Shr3y
+1
2021-05-12 02:06
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Sweden Nappev
bc its meme template and its funny
2021-05-12 04:13
actually you arent wrong
2021-05-12 10:57
#66
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Lithuania FakeDoggo
overthinking meme template
2021-05-12 12:10
Albania in 2030
2021-05-12 12:27
2 replies
So true
2021-05-12 13:43
albania in 2022
2021-05-12 14:03
Peaceful
2021-05-12 01:49
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+1
2021-05-12 02:01
the same tbh, moral guidance will be achieved through something else or whatever. any wisdom or good practices will just be in some other form. social control will also just assume some other form. tbh i dont see anything changing because humans are humans and thats why religion exists.
2021-05-12 01:49
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your thoughts on wars purely based on different religious beliefs? wouldn't we as humans become closer if we weren't "divided" by religion?
2021-05-12 01:52
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i just think people will find something else to start wars over. i mean it surely would be a step in the right direction if you want to resolve conflict. but the cost is that you would have to make everyone the same in order to just eliminate division. i think until you start really reaching the extremes of that religion can be replaced by anything. to be fair the concept of religion does cause quite a lot of problems. but where do we draw the line between what set of beliefs is and isn't a religion. surely anyone who subscribes to an ideology strongly enough is effectively the same as a religious person from a division standpoint. but the more i think about it the more i think things would be maybe a little better. but i dont think its so cut and dry either and that there is still also a positive impact to society with religion, just a greater negative one.
2021-05-12 01:56
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interesting, thanks for your thoughts.
2021-05-12 02:03
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yeah no problem thanks for reading them lol glad you found them interesting i appreciate that comment
2021-05-12 02:06
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Portugal 34itaNz
Nice, not that i agree but well explained, thx for thoughts
2021-05-12 15:18
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really happy you are willing to read that and go as far as thank me for it. i like to share my thoughts so i really appreciate stuff like this. also really happy that there are users on the website such as yourself who can disagree with things with perspective. we dont have to agree, and thats ok. as long as we are willing to listen to the thoughts of others and open minded then all is good. have a nice day <3
2021-05-12 15:23
swedistan
2021-05-12 01:51
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wat
2021-05-12 10:50
Why are danes so salty about the fact that sweden>denmark
2021-05-12 12:01
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Russia Vitaly59820
Most 1st world countries already have society without religion.
2021-05-12 01:51
society without religion would just be society without religion. religion is just an excuse for many wars, not a cause. remember all wars are money wars
2021-05-12 01:57
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based?
2021-05-12 02:01
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indeed
2021-05-12 02:02
religion at its purest isn't a bad thing at all. Do you think that Budda, Jesus or Muhammad really wanted people to kill each other? Religion is being used by people for achieving their personal/financial/etc goals too often. None of them (Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc, except for some sects) weren't teaching about Holy wars, Crusades, killing someone because he follows other religion. They were teaching about life, about what's good and bad, about how you should behave to be a good person. For example, do you think that teaching to respect parents is a bad thing? Or teaching to not kill, rob, lie, etc is bad?
2021-05-12 02:25
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Won't say about Buddha and specially about Jesus, but Mohammed was literally a warmongerer
2021-05-12 11:34
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He conquered other Arabian tribes, to unite them. But he (and first caliphs as well) never were against other religions. Muhammad respected Christianity and Bible. And when caliphs were conquering other lands they didn't force citizens to convert Islam. They let them follow their own beliefs. And they never ever tried to excuse their conquer wars by Islam. That's what I'm exactly talking about, they never used religion as excuse to start war with someone and never used it to make people die for their own interests. Yeah, later, when Arabian caliphate was already established and quite started declining, caliphs started punishing and oppress people from other religious confessions, but it's not Muhammad's or first caliphs fault that their ancestors were so dumb.
2021-05-12 12:56
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Well, other religions were tolerated if the people payed money, otherwise they were killed of expelled. I believe it's called jizyah
2021-05-12 14:02
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This tax was very small and it was payed only by healthy men. Old people, disabled ones, women, children, poor, monks, people who was in army didn't pay it at all. I know that looking at modern world it's hard to believe that Islam is a religion of peace. Yes, it definitely has stricter rules (for womens, for example) than other worldwide religions, but it doesn't mean that this religion puts war as something good. All these modern terrorists, immigrants, retarded government leaders (hello erDOGan) who're using Islam to cover themselves and their own goals, doctrines and crimes only shaming true Islam and it's teaching. And I'm telling it to you while being Catholic. So, no religious bias here.
2021-05-12 14:26
Chaos
2021-05-12 01:59
Science is the modern religion. Scientific tools are limiting itself to a full understanding. So we are still lost, just in another area than in ancient times. On top of that, some scientific results are heavily promoted, while others are buried. (Oil companies buying out anything which has any remote chance of cheap energy is a major culprit.) Science, especially at it's current form, are not better than religion. Same shit, new form.
2021-05-12 02:02
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Yep, mainstream science is the new religion and Google is the bible, easily manipulated, people are even saying things like "trust the science" that sounds religious as fuck. Keyword: mainstream science. Thanks for seeing through the bullshit.
2021-05-12 02:06
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If you include universities and their power within mainstream science, I am all with you. But if you exclude them from mainstream science, I am not your guy.
2021-05-12 02:07
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If you own the universities, why would you give the peasants the keys to the kingdom? Useful idiots.
2021-05-12 02:10
As a sidenote. I know a very reknown family of geologists. People working with tangible data, not just looking at computer screens. This family say the chance of ice-age is much much higher than the opposite. It will come, it's just a matter of when. But it is close enough that it should be something we should be learning about, if the authorities etc, are interested in people knowing the actual truth. You also have the pyramids. The reason they are dated ca. 4000 years old, has no direct connection to the pyramids. They carbon dated nearby camps, camps they say were used when building the pyramids. Those camps are 4000 years old. But that is actually the strongest evidence of 4000 years. A lot of other evidence points at 12500 years..... Completely ignored by the mainstream.
2021-05-12 02:11
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That's actually really interesting. Thanks for sharing
2021-05-12 02:16
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Now go fish my friend while the non-mainstream-science is still available :D
2021-05-12 02:17
It's pretty clear there have been multiple resets here and you don't have to look as far as the pyramids to see this, just look at the old buildings in Europe, they're far more advanced than anything built today, they are also technology they literally have antennas on top of the buildings. But hey we are told we are the smartest to ever do it because we have black screens. I agree ice age is more likely whether caused by catastrophe or not.
2021-05-12 02:17
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Look up observation deck on YT....He made a few good videos about the great reset. They are almost solely speech only though.
2021-05-12 02:18
high iq comment
2021-05-12 02:18
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most cancerou thread i've ever seen
2021-05-12 12:15
People would care more about fair life instead of being thankful for what they have. There would be less deaths and more healthy people
2021-05-12 02:05
We would still be barbaric and slaughtering each other without religion you have no moral guidelines in society. (Intelligent society, not talking about areas which are poverty stricken and lack basic education). If were talking about today? Yeah we don't need religion anymore.
2021-05-12 02:16
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But funny story, is that religion may very well has started as science. But that's a long story. We might have come full circle. But think about it, has it actually made life truly better. Is the application of science in modern society anywhere near optimal for the betterment of humanity as a whole. I dare say no, and with this in mind, a scientific community is no better than a religious one. It's the application of the idea which matters, more than the idea itself.
2021-05-12 02:22
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Yes as you said it depends on the application but Science is literally nothing like religion. Science doesn't tell you how to live your life, Science is always evolving and changing as we become more intelligent and figure out new things about our planet and universe both older theories and newer ones. People can be fanatical about Science ofc but that's like saying sports is like the new religion because some UK kids literally stab people who like a different club to their own and are fanatics over football... it has no correlation.
2021-05-12 02:27
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We are being nonstop fed scientific results, while others are being suppressed. Of course this will influence us. It's so obvious, that all I ask for you to realize it, is to think. And if you are a strategy gamer, this thought process should come very easy to you, knowing that scientific evolution is nowhere linear, but very much relies on choices made by humanity. When I say science is the new religion, I mean that it is used as an excuse/reason for all kinds of actions taken politically. I know global warming is somewhat a scam. You don't achieve it by lying, but you achieve it by being selective about what you tell people. Just like the "news". They don't lie much, but they do indeed chose what to tell you, and especially, what not to tell you, and herein lies a lot more power than many realize, untill they give it a proper thought.
2021-05-12 02:39
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I clearly understand the point you're making but I still think there is no correlation there, this same argument can be applied to so many things in this world not just science and it doesn't apply to the entire populous therefore it's not a societal thing. I'll give you an example of how easily your argument falls flat, let's say I bring up some country in the middle east that is 99%+ majority as Islamic faith, you really think this population is brain washed by modern science or religion? As long as religion exists in this world your argument doesn't work. Religion is just one example where your argument can be applied to but also I think even religion still has a way bigger influence on politics then science does even still to this day.
2021-05-12 02:49
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Religion is currently being replaced by science. That's a fact. And the choices being made with scientific basis, does not make the world a better place in general, just like the choices made with religious basis didn't make the world a better place in general. As long as we are controlled by a hierarchial system, it does not matter if it is science or religion which are the base. The results will still favor those in top of the hierarchy.
2021-05-12 02:55
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"Religion is currently being replaced by science." Currently more than 1 billion of our population follows Islam and the numbers are growing. I think your argument is literally based on where you live? Are you not considering other areas of the world? Modern science can never replace religion is doesn't serve the same purpose or functions and doesn't provide the same thing for our species. You have an interesting view point, I enjoyed reading your ideas but I'm going to have to agree to disagree.
2021-05-12 02:58
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It does indeed not provide the same functions, but the purpose is very much the same in large areas of the world. Controlling the masses, make them think alike, so you can manipulate them all using the same "tricks". This is why womans liberation wasn't as good an idea as we are led to think. It made society having a much larger percentage when it comes to educating and bringing up the child, as opposed to the past. When everyone are following the same idea, it is easier to change their views, than if you have to adress a myriad of ideas, adapting your approach to every single idea, to get the same end result (altered way of thinking).
2021-05-12 03:04
Would be bad since there is a subjective morality
2021-05-12 02:14
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Let them be, they're not ready for this
2021-05-12 02:15
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I don't even think they know what subjective morality is but ok :D
2021-05-12 02:15
People except for pieces of shit by nature don’t need to be told to not be pieces of shit. If you’re some fucked up person who would be a serial killer if not for religion then good for you
2021-05-12 03:12
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we're degenerate animals by nature
2021-05-12 11:35
You mean all time? cuz who the fk would know. Humans have believed in spirits and shit since as far back as we can trace. To people saying religion has no place in the modern day, they could be right, but who knows I am not the one to judge such a thing. But what I can tell you is religion was the foundation for the majority of society and has led us to where we are today. I believe it has done a great deal of good in establishing human civilization. One funny thing to me is how people say religion is the root of all evil but it has definitely done some good in human history. One example are the roman pagans who used to practice infanticide especially on girls. So many women converted to Christianity where this practice was prohibited. And before anyone attacks me as a person instead of what I've written, I am an atheist.
2021-05-12 02:21
Believe it or not , probably a lot worse than now
2021-05-12 02:23
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Canada sad_face
0/8
2021-05-12 10:52
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Western civilization was built on judeo-christian values , and the further we go from there the more in decline we become , which is quite obvious nowadays sadly .
2021-05-12 13:45
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Canada sad_face
No one needs ancient/medieval values in the modern world
2021-05-12 14:41
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None of it its medieval , look where your progresseviness is leading us , consumerism , emptiness , greediness , no morals whatsoever , degenerate society .
2021-05-12 14:45
probably pretty bad. and I say this as an atheist. look at the state society is in now with a decreasing religious population. Religion is the only thing that forces people to be moral, and even then it is for selfish reasons (the fear of going to hell). Now everyone's a fucking degenerate. Myself included. Obviously people can still choose to be moral, but less and less people are. Ultimately we're all selfish creatures, we weren't made to live in this massive globalised world, and we must return to monke.
2021-05-12 02:28
probably a bigger population decline
2021-05-12 02:31
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Ireland Sodaking
terrible Morals would not exist
2021-05-12 02:37
You cant blame religion. It is the human nature to do evil things. You can find an evil atheist or evil capitalist thats nothing to do with belief. Actually all religions say peace. It is human nature who understands it according to his interests
2021-05-12 02:38
the same
2021-05-12 02:55
Hmmm many wars would've never existed I guess? It's hard to say
2021-05-12 02:57
Not a complete peace but surely more peaceful.
2021-05-12 03:00
Peaceful and without war )))
2021-05-12 10:59
you would have something else to fill that void
2021-05-12 11:26
better
2021-05-12 12:02
look South Korea-/56.1% No religion/ look China-/74.5% No religion /
2021-05-12 12:07
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France Il_padrino
"Une société sans religion est comme un vaisseau sans boussole" "A society without religion is the same as a ship without compass" Napoléon Bonaparte.
2021-05-12 12:09
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napoleon isnt a very bright mind
2021-05-12 12:13
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France Il_padrino
lmao ok
2021-05-12 12:13
estonia czechia explain mens
2021-05-12 12:12
Depression and suicides would probably be way more common. In many peoples' life religion is the only thing keeping them "sane".
2021-05-12 12:25
maybe we have no morals then? who knows
2021-05-12 12:29
its not the fault of religion, people are like this, they always mould stuff which benefits them and religion is just one example, even science have been moulded for personal benefits.
2021-05-12 12:30
Then will be something instead of religion
2021-05-12 12:34
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Nigeria STFU_M8
I mean people literally start crying about so small things now without even religion being involved. Those people wont change, and actually alot of people would be alot crazier without religion. So its gonna be more worse than good.
2021-05-12 12:36
Religion is almost always replaced by something different
2021-05-12 12:55
I think religion is good for society if the religion has good intentions. For example, if someone has done something wrong, religion can make them aware of it and feel shame. Without religion, i think we will lose these feelings of right and wrong eventually. Our current society, although pretty secular, derives from these values.
2021-05-12 13:41
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You can shame people for doing wrong without religion. I feel this type of thinking is bad in the hands of wrong people because this is what leads to religious persecution. People can just say "well they believe in x" or that "they don't believe in god" and use that as a way of trying to make them seem as morally inferior to them.
2021-05-12 13:55
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I’m not trying to say that you have to believe to adhere to these values. I’m saying that before the creation and practices of religion in modern society, there were no laws, no justice, no moral insight. All the morals, ethics, laws and values that you have stem from religions, mainly Christianity. Most political issues are out of scope for religion. I’m not saying you have to be a believer to adhere to these values, but people should understand that religion is the source of the values that they hold. Instead, many believe that religion is the root and cause of all evil.
2021-05-12 15:15
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You're misunderstanding the point of my comment, it is not a defense of "you can be moral without being religious," since that much is obvious. However, it is more a critique of swinging the other way, simply that *some* people believe that others who believe in a different religion or not at all are "morally inferior" to them, and as such will discriminate against and treat them poorly.
2021-05-12 15:18
much better for sure
2021-05-12 13:42
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Poland flatness
Pagan.
2021-05-12 13:47
Just to add up , cuz I see people blaming religion for violence , some of the biggest atrocities done by humans were by atheists ..
2021-05-12 13:51
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