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Vitality on Nuke
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France 15yo_friendly_baguette 
hltv.org/stats/teams/players/9565/vitali.. If we look at stats, during last month, ZywOo, apEX and shox had good ratings (1.43, 1.14, 1.10) but misutaaa and Kyojin had 0.89 and 0.78 ratings If you watch Vitality's matches lately, they have been actually... dogshit on the A site. FURIA and DBL PONEY were basically going A 10 out of 15 rounds on their T side and managed to win T sides quite easily (FURIA wasn't even good tactically, DBL PONEY was better than FURIA on their T side imo but anyway Vitality is bad on A) How can they fix it ? In my opinion, there are 2 options there, either switch shox for misutaaa, misutaaa played a few times on ramp, I think he can be decent as ramp anchor, and shox has a lot of experience and could definitely help on the A site, Kyojin needs to learn how to play it so it'll be fine with more time but the main problem is apEX imo, he has good stats on this map, his T side calls are good imo but as CT they don't do well at all imo, apEX as an individual is doing actually good as I mentionned earlier BUT, even if Vitality loses A all the rounds, he doesn't change anything on their CT side, if they see that the enemy team doesn't do so much stuff on ramp and outside, apEX should just leave ZywOo outside and play on A with misutaaa and Kyojin something else they can do is, apEX holding outside, shox playing rafters on A with misutaaa and Kyojin to help them, ZywOo plays ramp solo or admin if they feel good to retake B on 5v4 or if they want ZywOo to rotate faster Complexity have been doing something like this also but with the AWP garage/secret and blameF garage/secret too, jks leaving ramp fully and gambling the A site Sure, coL aren't that good on Nuke and that's why they gotta do this, but it's a solution imo TL;DR: apEX is a bad IGL and doesn't understand that misutaaa + Kyojin (2 youngsters) can't handle A by themselves in 2v4 every rounds, swap between apEX, shox and ZywOo to play 3A when needed
2021-05-13 16:03
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Thoughts ?
2021-05-13 16:03
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#2
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Finland DTeeVee
What is that event filter?
2021-05-13 16:04
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It's mine B)
2021-05-13 16:05
I only include main events
2021-05-13 16:05
These are all the MVP-worthy events, announced so far.
2021-05-13 16:18
#4
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Poland JaspEer
just disband
2021-05-13 16:05
4 replies
-afro +ZywOo DBL top 1 I agree
2021-05-13 16:05
3 replies
+1
2021-05-13 17:07
Stop changing DBL they are playing very well rn Adding players is often never a good solution. You need to see a counter strike team as a synergy, 5 fingers of a hand. DBL Poney right now is performing well because of the friendship they have.
2021-05-13 17:30
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i was just kidding man x)
2021-05-13 17:30
#23
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France poulpup
doesn't seem dumb
2021-05-13 16:30
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ty
2021-05-13 17:30
bump
2021-05-13 16:05
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ty mens))
2021-05-13 16:05
make sense but apex need time to adjust , he did nothing vs furia and vs dbl.. maybe he need a few more rape to see it s not working
2021-05-13 16:06
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sure, but if he was a good IGL, he would adapt within 5 rounds max, on each map
2021-05-13 16:07
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i guess if these players are on A it s maybe cause they are worst on other spot and zywoo can t be everywhere on the map
2021-05-13 16:58
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sure but misutaaa won't be challenged as much on ramp also, ZywOo can actually be everywhere on the same round as CT, but anyway they can just do what i suggested
2021-05-13 17:22
who cars about how can vitality improve their nuke
2021-05-13 16:06
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I do
2021-05-13 16:07
Also, let shox flank more on T side, he's really good at it and certainly 5 times better than Kyojin
2021-05-13 16:07
Just remove these peanut brain players aka botpex, botx and botjin and add an igl with a brain, add lurker (bring nivera back) and add decent support player, that's it basicaly lol
2021-05-13 16:08
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-Kyojin +RpK -misutaaa +Nivera and no good IGL in FR rn :/ except bodyy ez
2021-05-13 16:10
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Lucky was an igl as well with maka and nivera in the roster, heretics i believe it was? Boddyy is trying to improve himself and seems like he's fine. And what about -misuuta+nivera: LOL, remove entry fragger for a lurker/awper guy? Dumb as fuck. Both shox and apex needs to go, they are shit, like it or not. Kyojin is bad as well. Kick these three and take boddyy/lucky or even NBK lmao and u'r fine Then bring back rpk and nivera on support' and lurk' role. Or make zywoo a lurker and nivera an awper.
2021-05-13 16:16
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RpK was entry before NBK left ??? you're fucking dumb also Lucky is like valde, just leading cuz no one else could
2021-05-13 16:18
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What the fuck did i just read lmao
2021-05-13 16:34
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??? RpK was in the trio when NBK was still in Vitality Lucky is a bad IGL anyway
2021-05-13 17:21
btw ZywOo 1.15 rating on T side, he doesn't have that much impact so they suck on T side :/ just let him do whatever he wants to get impact
2021-05-13 16:11
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+1 Most casuals can't understand this reasoning. You need to allow your star more space than others, for them to work their magic.
2021-05-13 16:19
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actually, not only that, they can win without ZywOo, but if you struggle this much, at this point just do whatever is needed, allow shox to lurk more than fucking Kyojin, send misutaaa apEX and Kyojin first, shox and ZywOo 2v3 every round ez
2021-05-13 17:25
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#52
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India somecunt
"They can win without ZywOo",lmao maybe against female teams.
2021-05-14 11:41
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Indian CS LUL
2021-05-14 12:30
their T side nuke is ok the big problem is ct side , exactly like on inferno
2021-05-13 17:02
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true, i said it was decent but still, ZywOo doesn't have a good rating on T, Vitality can't even rely on him on this part cuz Nuke is really hard as an AWPer as T
2021-05-13 17:24
#20
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Turkey 69kagan
kyojin has 5 maps on nuke all time
2021-05-13 16:20
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and ? he's 22, he played for many other teams before Vitality
2021-05-13 17:26
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Lots of "teams", I don't know if you can really call them teams. Misutaa had I think more experience at 17y
2021-05-13 19:32
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misutaaa had XP in LAN with mix teams Kyojin played for real structured teams
2021-05-13 19:42
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Which ones? I didn't really know Kyo
2021-05-13 23:31
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Warthox MYD for example he played with flex0r like misutaaa
2021-05-14 02:40
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Ok thanks
2021-05-14 11:38
Matches with Heretics, 12/14 games
2021-05-14 11:57
They should play like Navi setting up frags for Zywoo. He disappears a lot because most the teams avoid him(or are ready to sacrifice a player to kill the potential threat). Misutaaa should be given more chances and space. The problem is thier counter-aggression, they rarely go for retake, everybody getting rekt one by one. They should investigate in packs of 2 so they can trade. Kyojin seems lost sometimes, that's ok.
2021-05-13 16:20
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shox should play like ropz as T, not Kyojin, Kyojin goes in the trio, and ZywOo could play outside when he has an AK, like, u put ZywOo on secret, and u can do anything, B split with a ramp take (u can throw stuff on A if u want, but u can without), or u can go back A split if u have a timing on outside with ZywOo main and the rest hut/squeaky also, on CT they play too passive on A, they should (SOMETIMES), just do like they used to do and sandwich lobby, just push squeaky and hut with 3 players, leave outside, ZywOo and shox going ramp 3s after their mates on hut/squeaky
2021-05-13 17:30
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France Il_padrino
Smart and I like it. But ApEX is not a bad igl. I just think that he tries to train the youngsters.
2021-05-13 16:39
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ty maybe but he gotta do smth else then
2021-05-13 17:26
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#39
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France Il_padrino
Ikr Xmen teacher is here don't worry
2021-05-13 18:25
3 replies
Merci XTQZZZ :p
2021-05-13 18:46
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#41
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France Il_padrino
Le "Divin Chauve" lmao
2021-05-13 19:20
1 reply
+1
2021-05-13 19:23
great thread jean-baguette , I know that's it's pointless to bring that but I want LE TANK GOD back ...
2021-05-13 19:26
1 reply
+1
2021-05-13 19:46
-apex +le tank rpk ez
2021-05-14 11:39
#51
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India somecunt
Disband
2021-05-14 11:40
i haven't really watched any vitality games but is it better if nivera was playing instead of kyojin?
2021-05-14 11:42
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yes
2021-05-23 20:12
one month, one map = no samplesize
2021-05-14 12:32
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5 maps*
2021-05-23 20:13
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