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NIP full statement on packet loss
South Africa LustedSilli - HLTV.org 
NIP has released a full statement explaining what happened during their match against Anonymo during their first match at Flashpoint S3. Statement: twitter.com/NIP/status/13933294544039485.. Thoughts on NIP's statement about the packet loss issues and comments on the Flashpoint staff from NIP?
2021-05-15 08:31
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#1
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United States hurbok
dev40ce
2021-05-15 08:31
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#19
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Other the_dark
Lmao its already 4 from 3. so who is taking 3rd this year, niko or electronic, personally i would prefer hunter.
2021-05-15 08:47
1 reply
either sh1ro, hobbit, or ax1le
2021-05-15 10:12
Already seen a few threads on this topic. You're a tad bit late Mr. silli
2021-05-15 08:32
4 replies
Ah sorry mens)) Saw thread about packet loss but didn't see the full statement
2021-05-15 08:49
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#23
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United States NABOT
Silli is man of culture mens))))
2021-05-15 08:51
I didnt see this tweet. Thanks for posting mens))
2021-05-15 09:10
1 reply
Pleasure as always! The more you know :)
2021-05-15 09:30
we want screenshots
2021-05-15 08:32
2 replies
+1
2021-05-15 08:33
#99
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Poland kubeex
right
2021-05-15 11:51
#4
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Panama iTradePower
Why full caps? NIP angry
2021-05-15 08:33
#6
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Latvia chebyrek
just very bad tournament staff
2021-05-15 08:34
1 reply
NA organizer... what do you expect?
2021-05-15 12:03
#7
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Russia Evil_DaviD1
tldr: Flashpoint fucked up.
2021-05-15 08:35
46 replies
#8
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Finland iBait
Not really. They're partnered with FACEIT, obviously they're not gonna start using ESEA the second NiP has internet problems
2021-05-15 08:36
44 replies
#9
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Russia Evil_DaviD1
They could postpone the match.
2021-05-15 08:37
42 replies
#12
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Finland iBait
They could have but ultimately the issue was on NiP's end and postponing would have fucked with Flashpoint's schedule
2021-05-15 08:40
38 replies
And? As if ESL schedule wasn't changed, when they postponed NiP vs Heretics match.
2021-05-15 08:42
5 replies
#16
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Finland iBait
So...?
2021-05-15 08:44
3 replies
ESL schedule was changed because of it and they still postponed the match. Flashpoint are lazy morons.
2021-05-15 08:47
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#26
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Finland iBait
Flashpoint =/= ESL Flashpoint is more content focused while ESL basically just throws on the game after a 10 minute desk segment. Why should TOs have to bend over backwards to please NiP?
2021-05-15 08:56
It’s the right thing to do.It’s worth changing the schedule to maintain the competitive integrity of the event
2021-05-15 12:08
but anonymo have ESL Polish Championship today so
2021-05-15 08:47
How it is problem on NiP end when changing servers have solved the issue?
2021-05-15 09:17
25 replies
#38
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Finland iBait
NiP says in their statement that changing servers didn't solve it, Flashpoint (partnered with FACEIT) would have had to change server providers just to accommodate for NiP's routing problems
2021-05-15 09:22
24 replies
I dont think thats the way logic works
2021-05-15 09:24
15 replies
#42
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Finland iBait
Last sentence of the second paragraph, "THE ISSUE WAS A ROUTING PROBLEM WHICH CHANGING SERVERS DID NOT SOLVE" mobile.twitter.com/NIP/status/1393329454.. E: Lol and now you've edited your comment, "cool reading abilities bro"
2021-05-15 09:26
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Ok. Explain routing. What is it?
2021-05-15 09:27
12 replies
#45
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Finland iBait
Use Google
2021-05-15 09:28
11 replies
Cant you at least send me a link?
2021-05-15 09:29
10 replies
#51
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Finland iBait
Surely you guys have Google in Lithuania
2021-05-15 09:29
9 replies
You are annoying and a waste of time
2021-05-15 09:37
8 replies
#60
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Finland iBait
have a nice day!
2021-05-15 09:42
7 replies
Bruh you have to be a proper moron to believe that the routingh issue was NiPs fault. They have their own network inside their ISPs network from where on their traffic gets routed through the entireworld. If somewhere in that route there are servers which are experiencing packet loss etc, than that is completely out of NiPs control. Usually routing protocols should prevent this, but they do not always work perfect.
2021-05-15 10:15
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#88
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Finland iBait
Curious as to why only NiP seems to have trouble routing through Germany
2021-05-15 10:36
5 replies
But there is proof in faceit logs so you don't need to be curious
2021-05-15 10:44
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#91
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Finland iBait
I'm not saying it didn't happen, just that there's a reason why it only happens to NiP
2021-05-15 10:45
And also it DID work with switching server. The servers faceit use have all the same ISP so if they change faceit server nothing changes but if they change server provider they might have another ISP with other routes which in this case would help.
2021-05-15 10:47
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+1 look at his name and don´t mind this moron
2021-05-15 12:07
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#110
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Finland iBait
why so mad mate
2021-05-15 12:41
Well obviously I edited because you obviously read it full which was not clear before editing
2021-05-15 09:28
#48
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Finland okxD
They meant that switching server to Faceit's different server didnt solve the routing issue. Do you dumb?
2021-05-15 09:32
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#57
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Finland iBait
No shit Sherlock Holmes, it's still an issue on NiP's ISP's end
2021-05-15 09:41
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And it still would've been fixed if they wanted to. Flashpoint didn't want to.
2021-05-15 11:41
Nope so it is Faceit issue, not NIP. The problem was the faceit server not other way around. otherwise, other servers wouldn't have worked.
2021-05-15 10:00
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#71
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Finland iBait
An issue which no other team apart from NiP has, meaning it's an issue with NiP's ISP
2021-05-15 10:09
3 replies
Nope. But repeat your stupidity over and over again. People here laughing about you.
2021-05-15 10:11
2 replies
#85
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Finland iBait
Have a nice day!
2021-05-15 10:27
+1
2021-05-15 12:08
schedule? Do you mean this schedule with such a big void of games that you even question that it is a tournament? OMEGALUL Hahahaha ha hahaha sorry, can't stop laughing.
2021-05-15 09:59
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#70
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Finland iBait
You think the casters and other staff only show up to work 10 minutes before the first match starts?
2021-05-15 10:08
4 replies
Nope I would assume they at least reach Blast and ESL level. That isn't too much to ask or??
2021-05-15 10:12
3 replies
#86
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Finland iBait
I have no clue what you're trying to say
2021-05-15 10:27
2 replies
Then you have no clue about the topic at all.
2021-05-15 10:29
1 reply
#89
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Finland iBait
Why so toxic mate?
2021-05-15 10:37
Yeah and mess up the whole tournament
2021-05-15 09:24
#49
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Serbia CoVRa
No they cannot so that. If one team have problems and cannot fix it for a hour they must surrender or play with lag...
2021-05-15 09:29
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yes, but they could have fix it with switching from faceit server to esea server for example, it would be faster than 1 hour and both teams would be happy...
2021-05-15 12:11
Doesn't matter lol, they would've use an private server like the ones that they're doing pracc on, it doesn't need to be from ESEA if they have problems with faceit.
2021-05-15 11:54
effects of no thorin kkkkkkkkkk
2021-05-15 10:13
Its impossible to have 40% loss and shoot like that ...
2021-05-15 08:38
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#28
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Sweden kWahoho
man can you read? they had flucktuating up to 30-40%
2021-05-15 08:59
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#33
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Reunion Esquinox
didn't RL said that it went up only to 30% ?
2021-05-15 09:04
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He later elaborated that it was a test from server in the same geographical area as they played on. Probably when looking for alternatives. Still, even if it was 30% max it doesn't change a thing.
2021-05-15 09:08
I cant even move with 10%packet loss so i dont know they play that good on 30-40%
2021-05-15 09:25
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#56
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Finland okxD
Ye i cant hear defuses and flashbangs with 5%
2021-05-15 09:34
1 reply
+1
2021-05-15 09:37
packet loss not consistent on the same level...
2021-05-15 10:01
5% is considered as heavy lag theres no way u can even move out of spawn with 40%
2021-05-15 08:39
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i played with 20-25% an yes, you could move and shot, hardly, very uncomfortable, but you barely hear audio, sometimes teleporting. Unplayable tho
2021-05-15 08:41
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+1 , in packer loss , audio fks up but its not like lag ..
2021-05-15 08:52
But i don't think this is an excuse. dev1ce wrote about it before the match fully started. So, he's either prophet who saw their loss against Anonymo or he's not lying.
2021-05-15 08:43
It was spiking up to 40, it wasn't constantly at that level.
2021-05-15 08:51
Wtf 5% is considered heavy? Bruh I'm already so happy when my packet loss reaches 2 to 5%.
2021-05-15 10:15
They have solid points. Overall people are criticizing them for exaggerating their lag/server issues, but it's undeniable that Flashpoint handled it poorly when you compare it to how ESL handled it. Flashpoint? I mean Trashpoint.
2021-05-15 08:50
5 replies
+1
2021-05-15 08:53
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Sweden kWahoho
+1
2021-05-15 09:00
#52
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Poland Roxin
+1
2021-05-15 09:30
They are playing this game since being a kid and they didnt took at least a screenshot to prove it? That is shameless
2021-05-15 11:44
#100
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Pakistan LoOuU2
+1 If the production in first few days weren't enough to prove they are pulling off a shitshow, this just makes it even more apparent. Hopefully they never get to host a Tier 1 even soon.
2021-05-15 11:53
I tell you what happened. They fucking lost and now they salty,looking for excuses. After an hour wait and finally swedes decide on server smash Anonymo on overpass np And then they lost and guess what there was a problem.Fuck NiP and little primadonna device
2021-05-15 08:56
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Your point is flawed because they were criticizing Flashpoint when the score was 1-1 on the first map. Use your head next time please.
2021-05-15 09:00
5 replies
Can use your face?
2021-05-15 09:00
If they had 40% packetloss they wouldn't win a single map. They are lying shits.
2021-05-15 09:04
3 replies
Oh shieeeet you got them
2021-05-15 09:21
Did you read the statement?
2021-05-15 09:28
"Up to 40%". Means max spikes were 40%. Noone fucking ever told it was constant 30-40%. Device wrote that it was 40%, never said it was consistent and it's probably like his 2nd or 3rd language in the heat of a moment. Plus, you really think device would lie about it when score was 1-1 on the first map? Why would they look for excuses in that moment?
2021-05-15 09:34
#32
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Luxembourg TheBudi34
+1
2021-05-15 09:01
BASED +1
2021-05-15 10:14
Looking for excuses while trashing the enemy team after complaining about loss, yes makes sense
2021-05-15 11:43
If thay have such packet losses than how they win overpass 16-3? Look like MIBR-tier excuses
2021-05-15 12:18
#54
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Serbia CoVRa
Just ask yourself how were Anonymo players feel when they had pause 1 hour and then smashed 16-3. Great comeback, deserved win
2021-05-15 09:31
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NIP didn't deny that they deserved the win.
2021-05-15 10:03
they didnt say a single bad word about anonymo...
2021-05-15 10:16
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#80
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Serbia CoVRa
so did anonymo? they posted this tweet at 6:59 (18:59) MATCH WASNT ENDED. They were just posting a meme...
2021-05-15 10:18
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what exactly does this change? nothing...again, they didnt say a bad word about them and they actually respect them in their statement so no idea why did you write that comment 54
2021-05-15 10:19
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#83
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Serbia CoVRa
because they are crying about it. Anonmyo just played better and with lags or without lags they would beat them /closed
2021-05-15 10:24
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/open they arent crying about anything. you clearly cant read and you have absolutely no idea how that match would have ended without lags. bye hater /closed
2021-05-15 10:27
Yeh they even said good sportsmanship from Anonymo
2021-05-15 14:23
+1
2021-05-15 11:47
why wont device just post a video of his ''40% packet loss''? He surely would record it if it was true
2021-05-15 09:46
1 reply
They aren't MIBR. But I assume the social media guy there will have some video footage.
2021-05-15 10:03
#62
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Poland kaspr02
Ez4Anonymo
2021-05-15 09:49
NiP new mibr?
2021-05-15 09:58
wtf is this font
2021-05-15 10:06
shit happens but respect to anonymo for waiting that long and accepting any solution that would solve nips problems. flashpoint didnt handle this very well tho...
2021-05-15 10:18
Respect for NiP that waited more than one day for Heretics internet issues
2021-05-15 10:55
Respect for anonymo for being open to any changes. It's not like anonymo were trying to get a dirty advantage
2021-05-15 11:47
#102
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Good on Anonymo for being understandable, the issue was on NiP's side but as expected, Trashpoint weren't willing for any solution which ruined the evening. I honestly am triggered by those who keep saying that Flashpoint are doing a good job with this production with "new ideas" and such even though they lack basic features that should be part of Tier 1 production which are working replays, camera not cutting off to players as soon as bomb explodes, I don't even know who are part of the analyst desks for the games and not a lot of variety in casters. If all of this wasn't enough, this new situation arised It's a qualifying tournament for Major ffs, get your shit together and do a better job. Don't bid for it if you can't.
2021-05-15 11:57
excuses excuses should have decline to play until they solve problem
2021-05-15 12:11
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