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was subroza cheating?
Kyrgyzstan EasternBrunette 
I wasn't following csgo when he was at clg. From YouTube I discovered all of the cheating accusations, his account of a game cheating website. I remember richard lewis thought at the time that he was cheating. what was the revelation of all of that or do we not know? don't mean to start a witch-hunt of any means. just want to know the facts (which don't car about your feelings).
2021-05-15 23:00
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Russia CYETA
probably wasnt, just very specific type of aim
2021-05-15 23:00
can confirm im his ex
2021-05-15 23:01
2 replies
send me nude pics of him then...
2021-05-19 08:05
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Will 5 sec audio clip work, where I sound as if it's foreplay?
2021-05-19 20:40
#3
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Italy I_like_csgo
He never got banned or officially caught or something, so we don't really know. The clips stopped appearing tho, so if he cheated, he probably stopped a while ago
2021-05-15 23:02
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Someone also found an account under his exact birth name on a cheating forum some time before the clips started popping up iirc. I'm not really into the whole witch hunting thing, and I don't like to call pros cheaters because 99% of the time it's either prefire, a calculated shot through smoke, or just xray existing, but Subroza's clips were the most blatant I've ever seen.
2021-05-15 23:57
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Korea XigNw0w
It would be completely stupid to state your real birthday on such websites.
2021-05-19 08:22
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Finland Amenok
"Birth name" so even more stupid
2021-05-19 18:51
i've sold MMO and AVA accounts on sites like that. It's not just for cheats. so maybe he did the same. Considering he used to be a pro AVA player back when skadoodle was as well.
2021-05-19 08:27
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Do you know what site it was? I'm going off of stuff from RL's video about it, though I don't remember if he had the logs or not.
2021-05-19 23:07
Banned officially? You mean vacced? Mens, people spin in mm and don't get banned lol
2021-05-19 18:01
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No I dont mean vacced, I mean banned by any anti cheat what so ever
2021-05-19 18:40
I don't think anything got proved
2021-05-15 23:02
%100 He was no doubt that game on mirage he was so blatant
2021-05-15 23:02
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2021-05-15 23:09
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#26
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Argentina WaSTe_D
BRUH AXAXAAXXAXA
2021-05-19 03:36
those mirage clips are SO fucking obvious it's insane
2021-05-19 04:04
LOL
2021-05-19 05:01
This cache clip does it for me everytime, I cant believe how anybody could possibly justify that.
2021-05-19 08:17
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Ukraine volod1m1r
+1
2021-05-19 10:44
#71
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United Kingdom COLOSSUS_
true, unless he heard something
2021-05-19 10:56
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even then why would you react by moving your crosshair... imagine yourself playing in that situation, you would just take notice that there is a ct in vents, and then when you peek out mid be ready and adjust your crosshair, this flick makes absolutely zero sense in that case
2021-05-19 20:24
the one at 3:10 isn't actually that sus cuz ppl like wAFF aim 10x faster and more accurate than him doing the same motion
2021-05-19 09:24
xDDDDDDDD so obvius
2021-05-19 18:01
i try to understand every aim lock on this video except for the ones at 0:39 and 2:47. there is no way he can justify those two locks. nobody can. even if you hear the sound of vent breaking (2:47), you wouldnt look at through the walls lol. if you still do so, you are either a retarded or a cheater, which in this case, i dont think subroza was a retarded.
2021-05-19 18:02
I remember when i watched this video 4years ago and i was 100% sure he was cheater but now i am 100% sure he wasn't
2021-05-19 20:47
this the one no fucking way NO WAY he wasnt cheating
2021-05-15 23:50
he had that 10h dm per day type aim so no i dont think so
2021-05-15 23:04
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2021-05-19 05:01
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that aim_botz clip just kinda proves my point
2021-05-19 10:32
1 reply
lol
2021-05-19 18:50
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Poland Kazk
it wasn't proved but that doesn't mean that he did not cheat
2021-05-15 23:04
No ofc That fact that he put crosshair at enemies once in 100 map doesn't mean anything
2021-05-15 23:05
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youtube.com/watch?v=-bjvfYf64tM but just look at these mirage clips and tell me he's not aim locking. just that one clip where he starts shooting at firebox guy and then 180s through the wall to tetris?? that just CANNOT be legit
2021-05-19 04:05
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Andorra amongus
He had info that one guy was Tetris because his teammate died, i think it was reasonable to insta-flick to kill him before the firebox guy.
2021-05-19 04:41
I don't think there is any logic to toggle cheats when you losing 15-2
2021-05-19 12:09
#75
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Netherlands toothpaste
Ears + experience Quite pathetic you think someone can't be this good
2021-05-19 12:14
#9
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Canada JC_123
It doesn't make sense that he did. After when the accusers say he "stopped cheating" it didn't take long for him to be a better player than he ever was.
2021-05-15 23:06
probably not but maybe yes
2021-05-15 23:06
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Armenia baitpolice
he was way too online of a player either way lul
2021-05-15 23:09
probably
2021-05-15 23:10
yes
2021-05-15 23:11
2021-05-15 23:12
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that really isn't that bad lmfao youtube.com/watch?v=7UCG-fdWNMs
2021-05-19 09:25
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Portugal Surya
absolutely I remember his clip on cache so obvious , plus couple other on MIrage. Dead on cheating
2021-05-15 23:12
#17
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Brazil Tamer1328
there is a video that was taken from a subroza live, where he was on aim_botz and his aim literally shook after he killed a player and pulled directly to the other player, shaking and the aim doesn’t come out of his head, no human does that , is clearly something that a machine would do
2021-05-15 23:15
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He was literally practicing that lol
2021-05-15 23:19
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Brazil Tamer1328
he may have practiced and such but it is impossible to do what he did, his aim was robotic, no pro player does it or has done it, not counting the various aimlocks in matches
2021-05-19 02:53
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#28
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United Kingdom Dylan9007
gold nova pro over here doesnt know how to warm up
2021-05-19 03:40
#29
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United States t1rbr
because someone who uses aim hacks would show them off on stream in aimbotz practice... ok
2021-05-19 03:41
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#37
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Brazil Tamer1328
there are people who use hack with millionaire inventories, I don’t doubt anything
2021-05-19 04:07
Have you ever seen k0nfig dm? xD
2021-05-19 08:27
Because it's literally useless and just for a flex rofl
2021-05-19 09:15
And he still misses like 30% of shots Thats not how cheats working
2021-05-19 12:11
as if richard lewis knew anything being GOLD NOVA LMAO
2021-05-15 23:51
100% and that is why they kicked him.
2021-05-15 23:59
#24
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United States fatburger
dont think so, think he just has a shaky playstyle
2021-05-19 03:05
#25
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Other M@GNU5
nah he wasn't
2021-05-19 03:07
#27
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United States ekwi
Even if he did, who cares?
2021-05-19 03:37
#30
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Hungary szia
I don't think he was tbh. His aim is like that of an extreme tryhard, you know, super twitchy, fast reactions, always flicking around to where an enemy could be, trying to see everything at once, lining up angles before they peek it. A lot of regular play can look suspicious with xray on if you're always flicking to where players could be
2021-05-19 03:47
1 reply
+1
2021-05-19 04:20
why do you care about a tier 10 nonamer in a tier 10 noname team playing in tier 10 events 10 years ago?? thats almost as minute as if you making a thread about if me another random stranger if i had a diarrhea 4 years ago.
2021-05-19 03:56
I don't think so. I think he would flick away all the time just to look flashy
2021-05-19 03:55
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Australia poppyxox
lol, we'll never know the 'facts' necessarily but just look at the clips bro, you'd be stupid to excuse what he did as 'twitchy aim'
2021-05-19 04:06
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#43
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United States Azaqa
#42 ...
2021-05-19 04:35
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#93
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Australia poppyxox
?? i dont know what you're implying you can be good and still have cheated lol, im not saying he has no skill people like flusha who clearly fucking cheated at certain points back in the day, hes still very good to this day although clearly subroza didnt have enough cause he had to switch to valorant l m a o
2021-05-20 02:39
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#94
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United States Azaqa
flusha only looked like he cheated because his gamesense was years ahead of the competition... look back at the shit flusha did all his "sus clips" and it happens every game now (except the inferno A site one wtf LUL)
2021-05-20 05:07
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#96
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Australia poppyxox
aiming at people through walls is not gamesense. lmao im not talking about these insane plays through smokes or whatever, i only think these people cheated solidly because there is no explanation for snapping to someone through a wall and shooting and there isnt much you can say to make me think differently lol
2021-05-20 06:45
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#98
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United States Azaqa
You dont think after people started accusing him he would do the same things he was already doing but make it more suspicious by snapping etc.... Youre pretty delusional to think he would keep cheating after getting accused so much.... Its not like the clips stopped when he was getting accused
2021-05-20 18:11
Out of all events he played with CLG he only had 2 " positive events " 1.03 and 1.05 ratings so u cant be a cheater and suck so bad all other events go lower than 0.96
2021-05-19 04:07
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If you try to play a pro event with "legit" cheats, you'll have way worst k/d. A cheat like that, doesn't turn you the next S1mple, it just give you a power up of your level.
2021-05-19 08:47
He was never impressive
2021-05-19 04:08
2021-05-19 04:14
no
2021-05-19 04:21
#42
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United States Azaqa
I mean he carried over his talent from CS to Valorant right in beta of Valorant before cheats could even exist+once he left t4 NA to t1 NA he shit the bed with 0.9 rating on every match so no... Insane individual talent with no brain so he gets shit on with good players but runs around and steamrolls the bots
2021-05-19 04:34
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There was valorant cheats on 2nd beta day bro.
2021-05-19 08:47
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#77
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United States Azaqa
Yea sorry i dont buy it, if there were people who used it definitely got banned within a week
2021-05-19 17:20
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Cheating in valulrant is harder than csgo, but it's totally doable. No idea about subroza there.
2021-05-19 17:28
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#80
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United States Azaqa
Bro if there were cheats 2nd day anyone who used that shit was definitely banned, valulrant has already banned some pros who were trying to cheat in officials
2021-05-19 17:58
This is not true at all, Valorant during the beta didn't have the anti cheat running and even a fucking farcry 4 aimbot was working in Valorant beta with minimal editing. Beta you cheat your ass off with literally no chance of being banned there was no anti cheat.
2021-05-20 05:29
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#97
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United States Azaqa
There was definitely an ac... my friend tried cheating and got banned after 3 days during beta so nt... maybe just no ac in your country
2021-05-20 18:10
#45
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Sweden Zackst3rz
yes
2021-05-19 04:46
Nah
2021-05-19 04:47
The servers are VAC secured
2021-05-19 05:14
#55
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United Kingdom nedwab
ofc
2021-05-19 08:34
#56
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Andorra _VetriX
No
2021-05-19 08:36
There's a reason why clips stopped appearing, just like in flushas's case they stopped cheating at some point.
2021-05-19 08:38
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There are alot of suspicious clips from other players around that time too, like konfig wall on cache that are so blatant they are not happening anymore, even now there's a lot of csgo tournamentd and hours recorded from pros.
2021-05-19 08:49
He was cheating before it was cool
2021-05-19 09:00
He clearly had aimlock. But, later turned it off, so he wont get vac
2021-05-19 09:22
no he didnt specific type of aiming style, I had one like that in source
2021-05-19 09:24
#67
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United States NABOT
Roza ult
2021-05-19 09:26
He probably used cheats at some point but after those early cache clips and his acc on some cheat forum surfaced he stopped. Also that mirage game, clg only won 2 rounds and subroza had score 4-17. IMO it doesn't make sense, why would he risk his career using cheats and play even worse than cutler xD
2021-05-19 11:05
subroza, leafy, xeppa - they all cheated. That is why they had to quit the pro cs scene. To keep the "integrity" of esports and csgo, instead of a ban they were given a sentence behind the scenes.
2021-05-19 12:16
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+1
2021-05-19 17:32
Virgins: hE wAsN't bAnNeD, sO wE dOn'T kNoW Chads: YES.
2021-05-19 18:43
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