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NIP INNOCENT
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United Kingdom JupiterACE 
"The issue seems to be related with some security settings on the server that partially blocked traffic from the NIP connection/ISP therefore confirmed it was not something they could control and solve." - Flashpoint So what happened is: - Flashpoint servers are bugged and messing with NIP - Anonymo offer to postpone/reschedule game - Flashpoint refuse, citing the problem only being with NIP, assuming it was NIP's fault - NIP provide Flashpoint with proof FACEIT server are scuffed - Anonymo suddenly scared to rematch NIP NIP are innocent and deserve the rematch, because Flashpoint fucked them.
2021-05-16 20:39
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+1 pbs.twimg.com/media/E1h2lpiVIAISM5C?form.. You can read the Flashpoint statement here FLASHPOINT SO BAD AHHAHAAHHAA
2021-05-16 20:46
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#38
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Europe wiggleCS
+2 , very nice summary
2021-05-16 20:45
twitter.com/innocentCS/status/1393992343.. NiP is a bunch of losers. I was just slightly mad at device for leaving Astralis and Denmark. But now, this is way over the line. They are trash, and they deserve to lose.
2021-05-16 20:47
21 replies
But read flashpoints statement instead? Everything was their problem from the start? pbs.twimg.com/media/E1h2lpiVIAISM5C?form..
2021-05-16 20:48
17 replies
Yes, but it's not anonymo's problem either. They shouldn't have to suffer because of Trashpoint, after it's already over. If a replay is being made at all, they should be given an advantage.
2021-05-16 20:52
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#67
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Sweden randigdot
This does not mean that it is NIP's fault
2021-05-16 20:54
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#79
Dosia | 
Poland iOFF
not anonymo either lol no rematch /closed
2021-05-16 21:01
5 replies
But this is a issue that nip can't do shit about? So if i ddos anonymo and they lose we should just say "unlucky ddos better luck next time"?
2021-05-16 21:03
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#87
Dosia | 
Poland iOFF
no its #doublestandarts if it happen to anonymo no one care ;)
2021-05-16 21:04
3 replies
You are talking "if" lets talk facts instead because no one knows what would have happened. Also if Anonymo was to send in full evidence like Nip they would get rematch ofc.
2021-05-16 21:05
#95
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Sweden randigdot
Well I would. I have sat in the seat from the other direction in hockey so I know how it feels to be on the other side and get it contradictory but that's how you should do if you are a good sportsman
2021-05-16 21:07
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#131
Dosia | 
Poland iOFF
anonymo good sportsman they offer to reschudel live, offer change server they cant do more ;)
2021-05-16 21:58
#82
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Finland Ghrale
Does not mean that NIP should suffer either. It's 100% FP fault
2021-05-16 21:02
7 replies
+1
2021-05-16 21:04
#88
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Sweden randigdot
+1
2021-05-16 21:05
You are totally missing the point. twitter.com/EliGE/status/139400544305637.. Regardless of whose fault it was, it is a disgrace to throw away someone's win, days after it has happened.
2021-05-16 21:16
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#109
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Finland Ghrale
The problem is that FP refused to fix the problem or postpone. They told NIP to stfu and play, hence the issue
2021-05-16 21:17
3 replies
This is something to be solved legally. Sue them and shit, or make them give extra RMR points to NIP when they are eliminated. But anonymo won, nonsense to rematch, lacks sportmanship and basically saying "Fuck you and your schedule, you do what WE want". Exactly what FP did to NIP.
2021-05-16 21:47
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#125
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Finland Ghrale
It's complicated since RMR points are like major currency, it would be a bad precedent to just "print" more because FP shat the bed on this one. This would never have been an issue if FP denied postponing of the match
2021-05-16 21:50
1 reply
A bigger precedent is making a rematch that may very well erase anonymo's victory. Between Removing RMR points from a team to compensate and giving RMR points to compensate, i stay with the latter. Only one group stage match will hardly make a difference in RMR standing. It's just 250 RMR or so.
2021-05-16 21:54
#136
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Russia yungyoda
Haters dont wanna read or change opinion, they Just wanna hate
2021-05-16 22:19
#73
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United Kingdom JupiterACE
> I was just slightly mad at device for leaving Astralis and Denmark You are weird bro
2021-05-16 20:58
1 reply
Nice way to completely avoid the point of the tweet, and rather focus on me. My bad, why was I even expecting you to have a reasonable conversation....
2021-05-16 21:00
glaive just mad cuz devveking left.
2021-05-16 22:15
POint 3 is wrong mr. OP Flashpoint didn't refuse to reschedule the match, they simply didn't get any request from any team... imgur.com/a/LhuL8YP Meanwhile, anonymo asked NIP and not flashpoint, for a reschedule but NIP declined. imgur.com/a/iBekdde So, its 50% NIP fault, 50% flashpoint's but the only one suffering is anonymo #JUSTICEFORANONYMO #NIPSHADYORG
2021-05-16 21:34
8 replies
Region checks out for 5 iq brain
2021-05-16 21:35
6 replies
flag checks out, can't see clear facts and proceeds to attack on flag :D Can you say what is wrong/false in my comment?
2021-05-16 21:38
BTW this comment is for OP because he stated a wrong fact in the thread not you so please don't use your peanut brain on this
2021-05-16 21:37
4 replies
This is stupid from FACEIT to have NiPs ISP blocked, this could even be a intended thing from flashpoint to help Anonymo. Because there is no reason that NiP should be blocked from the server.
2021-05-16 21:45
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Ok so now Flashpoint is helping anonymo by blocking NIP's ISP? really?? such a biased take... As i said half flashpoint's fault and half NIP's why NIP's fault? they didn't agree to reschedule the match when anonymo offered it, even when NIP was the one who had issues. Now, Forget it was your country's team and try to think it in an unbiased way, you'll see it more clearly
2021-05-16 21:51
2 replies
You should think about how t fuck NiPs ISP ended up being blocked? just hooooow
2021-05-16 21:53
#132
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Italy alex12345
Lmao it's always the retards talking about iq. The guy above is the proof.
2021-05-16 22:05
First image is from flashpoint's tweet, second from anonymo's tweet
2021-05-16 21:56
#2
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Italy NotNew
I don't think innocent would move to NIP after this
2021-05-16 20:40
4 replies
innocent is a bot, he's polish Spiidi
2021-05-16 20:41
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#49
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Luxembourg TheBudi34
lamo
2021-05-16 20:48
#55
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Luxembourg TheBudi34
paycheck stealer since 2017
2021-05-16 20:49
people were going crazy a year or two ago "oh my god the next big thing blabla this that" and as soon as he's playing officials - absolute average pile of poop.
2021-05-16 22:17
+1
2021-05-16 20:41
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#26
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Sweden PwnarN
+1
2021-05-16 20:43
They should just admit that they lost and not repeat game from few days ago
2021-05-16 20:41
4 replies
This game is very important
2021-05-16 20:49
3 replies
No it's not important because they would have fucking ex-north which don't even try to win, i would understand if they would have to play vs Gambit but vs ex-North cmon bro
2021-05-16 20:51
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2021-05-16 20:53
yes but then Nip should have agreed for a reschedule
2021-05-16 21:12
#5
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Canada JC_123
no Innocent is on the other team actually
2021-05-16 20:41
#6
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United States Jeebur
No, Anomymo offered to reschedule when the match was ongoing that is different than days later when theyve moved on and started to prepare for other matches and other tournaments.
2021-05-16 20:41
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#13
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United Kingdom JupiterACE
- Anonymo offer to postpone/reschedule game - Flashpoint refuse, citing the problem only being with NIP, assuming it was NIP's fault it's literally in the post man
2021-05-16 20:42
6 replies
#21
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United States Jeebur
yeah but now its days later and theyve begun preparation for other matches and tourneys + flashpoint gave less than 24hr notice for reschedule
2021-05-16 20:43
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#23
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United Kingdom JupiterACE
integrity, you can't give a team worse conditions and pretend the match was played fairly
2021-05-16 20:43
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#30
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United States Jeebur
I think anonymo have an issue with it bc of the timeframe to replay and that they have other things they need to be preparing for now
2021-05-16 20:44
How can you call it "NiP's fault" tho? The same org had issues like this in the past and ESL rescheduled it right away. Imo this is the fault of flashpoint if anything
2021-05-16 20:44
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#37
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United Kingdom JupiterACE
It's not NIP's fault, "Flashpoint refuse [reschedule]... assuming it was NIP's fault"
2021-05-16 20:45
#110 Flashpoint didn't refuse, NIP did. Your thread is not completely correct
2021-05-16 21:21
+111 This
2021-05-16 20:42
#7
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Romania RedXtreme45
+1
2021-05-16 20:41
interesting, flashpoint should disband tho
2021-05-16 20:41
#9
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Estonia R3dFen
Imagine supporting pathetic NiP and snake crybaby dev1ce, thorin was right.
2021-05-16 20:41
3 replies
did you even read the post? you can hate nip or w/e but given the facts, they should be entitled to a rematch. If anything this is all flashpoints fault
2021-05-16 20:58
Sounds like blind hate to me.
2021-05-16 21:01
Clown So it's ok to have one team play with unfair disadvantage? And lose rmr points cause due to no fault of their own. F off with your single digit iq
2021-05-16 21:06
#10
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Sweden flippig
Flashpoint should get the blame here but cs scene is a joke so they will be back hosting events soon again with big delays and more problems
2021-05-16 20:41
Why they didn't try to cancel this game after 16-3 overpass?)))) How did they beat pro team (even if tier 2) with 40% loss?
2021-05-16 20:42
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#18
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United Kingdom JupiterACE
Flashpoint refused to cancel the game
2021-05-16 20:42
12 replies
I didn't say 'why they didn't cancel' I said why they didn't TRY TO CANCEL They were happy, smiling etc after first map. Also: How did they beat pro team (even if tier 2) with 40% loss?
2021-05-16 20:43
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#27
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United Kingdom JupiterACE
Because 40% loss isn't 100% of the time lol? Are you brazilian or something?
2021-05-16 20:44
8 replies
youtube.com/watch?v=sB8MDHO0QkA You tea drinker I don't talk to you anymore Get a brain
2021-05-16 20:44
7 replies
#41
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United Kingdom JupiterACE
This is 40% packet loss 100% of the time. Good job reading mens ))
2021-05-16 20:46
4 replies
Fckin idiot even casters said they DIDNT have 40% loss but you know better ;)
2021-05-16 20:46
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#50
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United Kingdom JupiterACE
So what, the casters aren't watching the NIP player screens, they can only see the server.
2021-05-16 20:48
2 replies
it's funny how he used tea drinker as if it's an insult lmao
2021-05-16 20:59
1 reply
Willkommen zu HLTV mens)))
2021-05-16 22:56
2021-05-16 20:47
How tf are you sooooooooo dumb?? This single mf clip has. Been circulating this site for days, are you monkey who has no understanding? They had loss spikes of 40% just because this one video got posted doesn't mean this is exactly what happened to them, they constant loss which spiked to 40% Even flashpoint confirmed it u clown
2021-05-16 21:09
They didn't refuse to reschedule the match, they simply didn't get any request from any team... imgur.com/a/LhuL8YP Meanwhile, anonymo asked NIP and not flashpoint for a reschedule but NIP declined. imgur.com/a/iBekdde So, its 50% NIP fault, 50% flashpoint's but the only one suffering is anonymo
2021-05-16 21:17
1 reply
It was 0% NIP fault and 100% Flashpoint fault
2021-05-16 21:24
They did. And they provided proof for packet loss peaks.
2021-05-16 20:45
7 replies
Show me a proof where they tried to stop this game after overpass because of lags Or shut your dirty mouth and never open it again
2021-05-16 20:46
6 replies
Wow you're a toxic person...
2021-05-16 20:50
#60
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United Kingdom JupiterACE
Anonymo org literally said to NIP they would do whatever it took to play the game fairly but flashpoint refused to let them twitter.com/NIP/status/13933294544039485..
2021-05-16 20:51
Calm down mens)) You're just blindly hating on NiP right now when you should be directing the blame at Flashpoint. The whole situation sucks for everyone.
2021-05-16 21:08
You are so dumb and delusional. Literally flashpoint are concurring that nip had issues Go back to the cave you crawled out of, you Neanderthal
2021-05-16 21:10
Go watch the vod they litterally paused when the score was 1-1 on overpass lmao...
2021-05-16 21:28
why so salty polando? cuz anonymo are about to get spanked? the last semi-relevant tier3 polish team.
2021-05-16 22:57
innocent is on anonymo not nip??
2021-05-16 20:42
#15
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Poland blankkoo
not suddenly, NiP decided to play the match with that loss changing the decision now is just a piece of shit from nip side
2021-05-16 20:42
#16
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Poland deepayy
no both team are innocent but rematch shouldn't happen it's so fucked. Feel sorry for Anonymo :(
2021-05-16 20:42
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#65
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Sweden randigdot
I feel sorry for Anonymo but I think it should be a rematch. It's nobody's wrong except FlashPoint so all shit on them
2021-05-16 20:53
1 reply
#70
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Poland deepayy
yeah but it's just not fair. Anonymo prepared so long for this match. It was the biggest event in polish scene for like idk 2 years. You just can't do this to them.
2021-05-16 20:56
The weird thing is flashpoint is saying nobody asked for a reschedule before the match so someone has to be lying
2021-05-16 20:42
#20
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Poland r_e_x
Flashpoint fucked not postponing match yesterday, now its funny, imagine to get info that you play most important match 1 hour before start
2021-05-16 20:42
+1
2021-05-16 20:43
#25
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Nepal askyee
they should cancel this whole even, fnatic would have second chance, win win situation
2021-05-16 20:43
#28
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Poland Hanse
Innocent plays for Anonymo dumbo
2021-05-16 20:44
#29
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Poland baba_booey
NIP aren't innocent. Innocent is Pawel Mocek
2021-05-16 20:44
#31
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Sweden randigdot
+1 Agree to 100%
2021-05-16 20:44
what the fuck I found a person with brain omg xd
2021-05-16 20:45
#35
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Portugal Gcaos2003
+1
2021-05-16 20:45
#39
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Poland Pechowy
Soo if it's servers fault why Anonymo players didn't have any lags? Show me this proof that server are scuffed. If it wasn't Anonymo but G2 or Mouz they wouldn't even think about rematch.
2021-05-16 20:45
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#45
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United Kingdom JupiterACE
Because the server wasn't configured wrong on Anonymo's routes, probably. How much do you understand about networking and router configuration, are you CCIE?
2021-05-16 20:47
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#75
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United Kingdom JupiterACE
+1 lmao
2021-05-16 20:58
0/8 bait cockroach
2021-05-16 20:46
Why are people mad at NIP? I don't get it.
2021-05-16 20:46
#47
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Denmark K0rs_
Great way of putting it
2021-05-16 20:47
indeed
2021-05-16 20:48
#52
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Austria Grundz
jesus...it's double elim bracket. To force a replay at this point knowing that Anonymo has been preparing for multiple matches is just shameful. Disgusting display of unsportsmanlike conduct. Especially since it AIN'T LIKE THEY GOT ELIMINATED BY ANONYMO. JUST WIN VS HYENAS.
2021-05-16 20:48
6 replies
What are you talking about??? One more match and ur out, you have to play a lot more and you can’t lose anymore in the entire tournament
2021-05-16 20:50
4 replies
#64
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Austria Grundz
So go fucking win. Who cares. People do lower runs all the time. Forcing a rematch vs a team who just plain out brained you is ridiculous. Especially when you know they have been preparing for polish tournament and next flashpoint match. Big org bullies little org.
2021-05-16 20:53
3 replies
They didn’t brain them at all... They where allows to force a rematch, what’s the problem? They’re on equal grounds now...
2021-05-16 20:56
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#72
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Austria Grundz
LOL NiP Scammers exposed again xaxaxaxaxaxaa
2021-05-16 20:57
1 reply
Why?
2021-05-16 21:02
So it's fair that nip had to play with unfair disadvantage? How is that a competitive integrity?
2021-05-16 21:13
0/8 , -1 , reported , CLOSED /
2021-05-16 20:48
they had the right to refuse to play, but they do not have the right to rematch
2021-05-16 20:50
4 replies
well apparently they do cuz it's about to happen lmfao
2021-05-16 21:02
3 replies
for now we dont know...its not scheduled yet, and i would wait the match really be played
2021-05-16 21:05
2 replies
1 reply
im gonna wait the match be played
2021-05-16 21:06
anonymo isnt scared they just dont want to waste time 16-0ing nip
2021-05-16 20:55
#69
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Ethiopia thiccboiww
And if this is the case, then the rematch should ALWAYS happen even if NIP won, you can't just rematch when you're losing lmao. XDDDDDD
2021-05-16 20:55
2 replies
only nip had the issue? if anonymo also had the issue then yes ofc rematch should happen for them if they want it. use your brain buddy
2021-05-16 21:03
Y'all faking need to develop some basic comprehension skills jesus
2021-05-16 21:13
No, innocent plays for anonymo
2021-05-16 21:00
#89
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Netherlands n3wH0p3
The poles offered to reschedule during the first tech timeout in the first map and NIP didnt want to, their own mistake and now crying after the fact, abusing their power.....
2021-05-16 21:05
3 replies
Can you faking read or comprehend? Nip didn't deny flashpoint denied reschedule plea Tf you skipped kindergarten or what?
2021-05-16 21:14
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#106
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Netherlands n3wH0p3
The poles said so in their announcement, maybe read all sides to the story ?
2021-05-16 21:15
1 reply
So flashpoint is saying no asked for reschedule. Poles saying they asked but *FLASHPOINT* denied not nip Read faking moron and comprehend
2021-05-16 21:44
#97
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Luxembourg TheBudi34
they were happy asf after first map why sad now :(((((
2021-05-16 21:08
scared? why would they replay when its not their problem at all lmao, they have all the right to refuse but trashpoint is being pussies cuz they are afraid of nip influence so they force anonymo to play cant wait to see ecolai cry after 0-16
2021-05-16 21:13
Swedish internet is trash, device should've thought about that before moving there
2021-05-16 21:13
1 reply
This was a faceit router misconfiguration
2021-05-16 21:15
#111
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United States yurr
100% agree, why are the polaks crying for??? replay and win fair and square.
2021-05-16 21:20
+1
2021-05-16 21:36
#119
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Poland xMBTx
This is ten percent luck Twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure Fifty percent pain And a 40% packet loss to lose the game
2021-05-16 21:36
at least someone who has a brain
2021-05-16 21:49
That's a nice pun
2021-05-16 21:51
#135
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Russia M1shV4T
I mean, it's ok that they don't want to rematch, lul
2021-05-16 22:18
#137
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Denmark Duke1996
Finally, someone understood it. Flashpoint really screwed up. Instead of the rematch, an RMR point compensation to NIP could be awarded. Anonymo and NIP would play on in upper and lower bracket respectively. THAT'S how it should be solved.
2021-05-16 22:23
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