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Imagine if NiP had beaten Anonymo
Denmark quasivacuum 
If NiP had beaten Anonymo, the game wouldnt have been rescheduled. Now someone will say: "Yeah thats obvious, because if NiP beats Anonymo with ping issues, then NiP would also beat them without" But the problem here is that NiP are freerolling, either they win the Anonymo match or they get a rematch. Its a freeroll, a win/draw situation where a loss is impossible. The only situation in which it is acceptable to reschedule this game is if the game had been cancelled before map 3 or very early in the map.
2021-05-16 22:01
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#1
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Europe Krychaa
+1
2021-05-16 22:01
#2
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United Kingdom TwizzIr
I personally believe NiP thought they were good enough to beat them even with the packet loss.
2021-05-16 22:02
15 replies
they probably did but that is literally just silently accepting the fact that you are playing with 40% packetloss as a condition of the match
2021-05-16 22:02
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#16
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United Kingdom TwizzIr
My point is, NiP were forced to continue to play so they had no choice either way, but there was little protest because they probably thought they had it anyway. If it was NiP vs. Astralis for example, I feel like they would've made more of a fuss.
2021-05-16 22:07
4 replies
Well , NiP's fault for underestimating their opponent , tbh. In all cases , its NiP's fault in my eyes.
2021-05-16 22:43
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#42
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Finland okxD
Imo not NIP's fault. They were forced to play and everyone thought that the issue was in their internet, when it really wasnt, which explains that there wasnt that much protest.
2021-05-16 22:57
#87
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Malta scorchy
we'd have a proper shitstorm if that were the case lol
2021-05-17 11:37
There was plenty of complaining from NiP about this even in first map.
2021-05-17 14:03
#9
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United Kingdom Triturn
Or they can played map 3 knowing they could protest if they lost.
2021-05-16 22:03
2 replies
honestly, they should get some sort of punishment or fine for even trying this kinda shit and disrupting the schedule which is already fucked
2021-05-16 22:04
1 reply
"disrupting the schedule which is already fucked" theres multiple days for a break that they could play the 1 map in, making it out to be a whole bo5 ordeal where everyone has to reschedule shit
2021-05-17 12:58
#17
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Australia FlaKeXD
weren't they denied of the reschedule originally which is why they would've played it through
2021-05-16 22:08
3 replies
Flashpoint says non of them asked this.
2021-05-16 22:13
2 replies
#25
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Australia FlaKeXD
well either way wasn't that the whole point of changing servers, they found one that worked but Flashpoint said they aren't allowed to use it. Either way they found a fix but flashpoint wouldn't let them, thus they continued playing.
2021-05-16 22:15
well then trashpoint are liars: "Correction May 16 22:16 : A previous version of this article said that NIP's players declined the offer to postpone the original match when the first map was still being played. Contacted by HLTV.org, Anonymo clarified that it was FACEIT, the tournament operator, that pushed for the match to continue."
2021-05-16 23:00
and? their problem to be so arrogant
2021-05-16 22:13
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#27
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United Kingdom TwizzIr
Well, regardless they were forced to play. It should've been rescheduled when it was established.
2021-05-16 22:19
if anonymo had 40% packetloss, flashpoint wouldnt do a replay.
2021-05-16 22:02
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Finland Jomppeboi
Ye trust me bro
2021-05-16 22:02
#10
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China HEIDASHUAi
+1
2021-05-16 22:03
#14
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Sweden Erfa
I disagree, if Anonymo provided evidence like NiP has, I think it would be the same thing. Not sure if Anonymo as an org has the resources to gather that evidence though, it clearly took a lot of work from NiP to narrow down the issue after the match. I don't think NiP should insist on a rematch though, doesn't seem right when the match is over. I hope they will retract their request. Maybe they only requested a rematch to ensure that that it was investigated properly.
2021-05-16 22:06
10 replies
+1
2021-05-16 22:14
maybe they could have put that work into getting better internets
2021-05-16 22:52
6 replies
#43
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Finland okxD
But the problem wasnt in NIP's internet..
2021-05-16 22:59
5 replies
apparently faceits server was blocking their isp (internet service provider). If nip say, paid for more than one isp Like anonymo who has 4 they could have switched to the other isp and it would have been fine.
2021-05-16 23:01
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#47
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Finland Kujis
Yes blame NiP for not having 10 ISP's, not Faceit and flashpoint for blocking their connection. Flag checks
2021-05-16 23:11
2 replies
Anonymo, a smaller org has 4 isps (and offered to reschedule which nip denied), nip one of the bigger orgs only has one? If anonymo has the issue they could have switched to another isp.
2021-05-16 23:31
1 reply
nip never denied a reschedule smoothbrain burger, flashpoint denied it, ignorant ass
2021-05-17 12:59
#49
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Finland okxD
Lmao wtf nice logic man. #47
2021-05-16 23:15
everything checks out
2021-05-17 00:12
+1
2021-05-17 14:03
#62
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Europe Ufasas
who cares nobodies, 0 history, not even close to nip, navi, astralis, whatever others, vitality, mibr, cloud9, even fnatic had better history, or g2
2021-05-17 00:18
you cant have your cake and eat it too, except in this case you apparently can
2021-05-16 22:02
#7
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Reunion Esquinox
worst part is that anonymo probably wouldn't even as for it
2021-05-16 22:02
+1
2021-05-16 22:03
#11
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Nigeria coolathan
If you have ever watched pro COD this happens all the time, even when the big dawgs win on an unstable server... Like once per month
2021-05-16 22:03
NiP is still a better team stop crying
2021-05-16 22:04
1 reply
Why do you turn your head upside down
2021-05-17 17:21
#15
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Germany kuppikuppi
+1
2021-05-16 22:07
OK so I heard that NIP and Anonymo has been secretly planning on an only knife and Zeus match to make fun of Flashpoint. In the end NIP will lose to be fair and all the drama is for gaining some viewers.
2021-05-16 22:09
too much read but ok
2021-05-16 22:09
#20
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Switzerland f3ni_
The thing is - Anonymo genuinely proposed a rescheduling of the match when it was 1-1. They did literally nothing wrong, Flashpoint did though with continuing the match. But to replay the match now is just dumb from them.
2021-05-16 22:10
2 replies
Nip asked for reschedule too so why should nip be fucked over
2021-05-16 22:51
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#40
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Switzerland f3ni_
Flashpoint made the bad decision to force the continuation of the match. But now that they're getting pressured by NIP, they're tryna to reverse the situation even though it's too late now. Flashpoint isn't learning outta their mistakes.
2021-05-16 22:55
yes I agree NIP is a shit org and their players are cry babies. cant believe utter morons on this site defended them. They were acting like shit from the start and I say wait until more comes out and clearly they are even worse than we expected.
2021-05-16 22:12
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#48
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Finland Kujis
Cry is free for iraq scene
2021-05-16 23:11
6 replies
cry is free for team who lost to snax in 2021
2021-05-16 23:41
5 replies
#52
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Finland Kujis
yes I agree NIP is a shit org and their players are cry babies. cant believe utter morons on this site defended them. They were acting like shit from the start and I say wait until more comes out and clearly they are even worse than we expected.
2021-05-16 23:42
4 replies
you got rekt and you know it
2021-05-17 00:14
3 replies
#59
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Finland Kujis
Leicester checks out
2021-05-17 00:15
2 replies
i heard one time fins are... you proved it
2021-05-17 00:34
1 reply
#73
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Finland Kujis
It's actually "finns", you must be one of those chavs who don't know proper language.
2021-05-17 00:38
#26
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Brazil Khart
+1
2021-05-16 22:18
Exactly. If Anonymo has a 10% chance of beating NiP, they have a 1% chance of beating NiP twice in a row.
2021-05-16 22:23
3 replies
+1
2021-05-16 22:35
#41
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Finland DTeeVee
at least you're honest
2021-05-16 22:57
#64
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Europe Ufasas
+1, if they so good, try win again, true, wanna have history, make history the hard way
2021-05-17 00:21
Why would they replay if they won?
2021-05-16 22:28
5 replies
Read OP again
2021-05-16 22:35
4 replies
I guess you're kind of right? But didn't their calls for the match to be rescheduled get rejected? So they had to either 1. Play the game with packet loss or 2. Forfeit Only after the game was finished they found out that the issues were caused by flashpoint. Am I wrong here? Do I have my facts wrong?
2021-05-16 22:38
3 replies
Yeah they didnt ask for it to be rescheduled during the game
2021-05-16 22:44
2 replies
Oh, oops. I guess you right. But, isn't this understandable? Either NiP win a game while being at a disadvantage, or they lose and ask for a rematch because of said disadvantage. You could call it bad sportsmanship.
2021-05-16 22:47
1 reply
Yes it should never work like that, because what is Anonymo playing for then? They are playing to WIN because if they WIN they are so lucky to get a rematch, lol.
2021-05-16 23:47
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Russia NOD777
If anonymo would ask for reschedule nip would answer: wanna more? Go ahead and try as much as you want. We all know who is who
2021-05-16 22:30
2021-05-16 22:43
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#115
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Germany fanok
lol, so far I've only seen memes about NIP, this one is gold though.
2021-05-17 13:41
#46
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Poland r_e_x
The only fair scenario for both: >nip forfeits match and blame flashpoint for not postponing the game >after pressure from community flashpoint decide to let them play in different day >nip has no lags and ano isnt robbed from a win
2021-05-16 23:06
8 replies
+1 but it's understandable that they wouldn't take the risk of forfeiting
2021-05-16 23:48
7 replies
#55
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Poland r_e_x
I think risk wasnt that high, if you have to play w/ huge loss spikes then the win wouldnt be easy so i think that would be very good move both for players and NIP's PR
2021-05-17 00:09
6 replies
Yeah but it's easier to say that after everything happened
2021-05-17 00:10
I mean look at Flashpoint production, I believe that they would have given zero fucks to that and forced NiP to lower bracket anyways if NiP would have forfeited.
2021-05-17 00:16
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#74
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Poland r_e_x
Yes Flashpoint has a lot of things to make better next time, but still when team like nip with newly brought device ask you to postpone their FIRST match, you dont agree and after that youre being roasted EVERYWHERE while at the same time org is still pressing on you to let them play, you would break, like no way nip would have to play lower bracket after forfeiting. But thats just my opinion
2021-05-17 00:48
3 replies
CSPPA etc could have stepped in that situation. To make everything equal and to keep competition ongoing in Esports. I mean that is why they have investigated these matchfixing things, to keep things competitive.
2021-05-17 00:49
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#78
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Poland r_e_x
So you mean, that in case of nip's forfeit because of loss and not accepted match postpone, they would let them play this match some other day?
2021-05-17 00:52
1 reply
Yes as CSPPA etc would have forced to keep the competition ongoing. But it could have taken a long time, and even though if CSPPA would have made some affect, it is up on Valve do they give a single fuck after months etc. I mean, they have to play the tournament and if they would need to have rematch the tournament, it wouldn´t be relevant, obviously.
2021-05-17 00:54
#61
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Brazil rodrigocm
I think that if flashpoint they don't replay the match, you could believe that the lag was intentional. And it's worse to have people complaining that the match will be redone than people thinking that you purposely screwed someone.
2021-05-17 00:16
+1
2021-05-17 00:26
#69
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Poland kad_xqd13
No, they can still lose the rematch. /close /moron
2021-05-17 00:27
Why the fuck would they request a match replay of a match they won WITH a disadavantage? u stupid?
2021-05-17 00:28
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#77
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Poland r_e_x
why nip didnt forfeit? ofc flashpoint after tons of complains from community would let them play other day. NIP decided to try to win and if they lose, they have 2nd chance - because they played with loss
2021-05-17 00:50
12 replies
Nope read the statement instead of guessing, also admins ignored NiP players. twitter.com/NIP/status/13940549248964403.. imgur.com/a/CCrzbzE
2021-05-17 01:10
11 replies
#83
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Poland r_e_x
And there was no official ask for postponing match from nip during the 1h pause
2021-05-17 11:29
10 replies
Because its not allowed idiota, if a team refuse to play they get DQed.
2021-05-17 11:52
9 replies
#90
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Poland r_e_x
What? U mean official ask for postponing match isnt allowed XDDD? But looking at allowed things i see nip after pressuring flashpiont, offered to ano choice beteween bo3 or bo1 as they're admins :D
2021-05-17 12:16
8 replies
You are not allowed to postpone during the match, please don't talk if you don't know stupid poland brain
2021-05-17 12:33
2 replies
#94
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Poland r_e_x
But it was special situation when its 1-1, so match has BARELY started and ano agreed for postponing proposition between players, but nip didnt make official ask for postponing. Asking is not forbidden
2021-05-17 12:52
1 reply
Read what i posted below
2021-05-17 12:55
Here you can read the rule, "they can not under any circumstances stop the match" "The Team Representive may open an request" twitter.com/nelendirekt/status/139423842..
2021-05-17 12:41
4 replies
#134
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Poland r_e_x
and also you should know that admins are above rules :D, idk who is stupid here, funny that you have 0 arguments, halfy answered previous reply and you can only offend me :DDDD I think that's rather definition of "stupid brain" but this time swedish :DD
2021-05-17 16:34
3 replies
No? Rules ar made for a reason, to not make admins do what they want. How do you not understand something that simple?
2021-05-17 16:53
2 replies
#136
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Poland r_e_x
If not sticking to the rules is better for fairplay game then admins have every right, have you never heard it before?
2021-05-17 17:15
#140
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Poland Hellp3r
Replaying a match after its finished is also not a rule, but they somehow made it :)
2021-05-17 17:31
Device should be disqualified from rmr tournaments for bad attitude towards the judges / organizers of the tournament Imagine player in any sport says to referee " u are amatour" instant red card and future repercussions
2021-05-17 00:48
1 reply
Cadian middle finger? Vitality streamsnipe? Twistzz "Sit the fuck down" what else? So all of these players also should be disqualified by that logic as they have had unsportsmanlike attitude
2021-05-17 00:55
Ztr just do better than normal game xDDDDDDD
2021-05-17 01:11
#84
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Brunei cyLoL
+69420 nip are cheat system of trashpoint
2021-05-17 11:32
so why is NIP to blame? flashpoint messed up completely. both teams agreed to postpone the match but flashpoint pushed them to continue. anonymo won, nip critisized flashpoint NOT anonymo. flashpoint should have stayed by their decision to accept the result even upon the rightful criticism.
2021-05-17 11:34
10 replies
Because they want to replay the whole match?
2021-05-17 12:58
8 replies
nip never said the whole match ignorant ass, they said 1 map or the whole match, whichever anonymo wanted, speak with your brain not your ass next time
2021-05-17 13:04
7 replies
Are you fucking retarded? Be it BO1 or BO3 my point still stands - it's fucking unfair because the decision wasn't made during the match/match wasn't canceled at the time. So shut up, you inbred dumbass and try exerting the remaining two braincells occupying the empty space between your ears before you start smashing keyboard. Absolute cretin.
2021-05-17 13:11
6 replies
aww little baby man upset 👶😢, guess i hit a nerve there, how is it fair to nip? its not fair to either team so at least honor the integrity of the major and give each team a fair match, or can anonymo only win when the other team has massive disadvantage 🤣🤡
2021-05-17 13:32
5 replies
Aww except every pro, analyst and what-not that possess actual knowledge about such matters agree with my stance, yet there are braindead individuals like you that don't understand that the same match-up played twice can go completely different than the last time and that two wrongs don't make a right. Keep barking though, your NiP and device will keep eating shit from cs fanbase if the rematch actually happens.
2021-05-17 13:39
4 replies
i dont care about nip nor device, i care about the integrity of the game and its hilarious seeing all these scummy players and people in the scene showing their true disgusting colors, really shows how desperate polish cs is for any type of win by lying on twitter about nip 🤣🤣🤣🤣
2021-05-17 13:41
3 replies
Guess I was too generous by assuming you have two braincells.
2021-05-17 13:44
2 replies
stay pathetic and scummy 🤡🤡
2021-05-17 13:49
#141
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Poland Hellp3r
Jesus, have a mercy dude!
2021-05-17 17:33
so if NIP want to flashpoint could just say no? it's entirely flashpoint's fault
2021-05-17 15:17
#86
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Serbia LtN))
+1
2021-05-17 11:34
Yeah then Anonymo have to do the replay request????
2021-05-17 11:53
TRUE <3 +1111
2021-05-17 12:33
mate nip had disadvantage.... if they had won why would there be a replay ....... Anonymo are so scared because they probably can not beat young ninjas
2021-05-17 12:54
#100
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Germany Ryuzth
Flashpoint is the one really at fault in the end. A finished match should not be replayed, the winning team should never be harmed unless proven that they either cheated or did something against the rulebooks (which they didn't). The NiP team having tech issues and the admin not stopping the match even when the anonymo team corporated to reschedule it is totally not their fault. This is all a shitshow created by Trashpoint and NiP (now) that has no point of return.
2021-05-17 13:03
12 replies
nip didnt have tech issues, flashpoints servers were literally the cause and nip was at 0% fault, how ignorant are you or are you just stupid?
2021-05-17 13:05
11 replies
#104
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Germany Ryuzth
I know NiP's not at fault for the tech issues, still the tech issue were happening on their side because of faceit shitty servers, you can't blame the winning team for that and take the win from them after the match is done, thats not how it should work mate. Asking for a rematch after not even forfeiting a match is like they accepted to play with their bad condition... also complaining like this after there's a clear winner feels like a sore loser thing to do even more after anonymo corporated with them when the match was still live.
2021-05-17 13:12
10 replies
this whole situation and shit is not how it should work cause we should be on lan, unforeseen problems will come up that never did when shit was lan. why punish nip for zero reason and force them to potentially lose their major spot?? if anonymo is good enough to beat nip once then they can do it again on 1 map, bo1s can go either way
2021-05-17 13:08
9 replies
#107
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Germany Ryuzth
Its not a case of if they can win the bo1 or not. Once again, the winning team should never be harmed unless they're proven to either cheat or break the rules. You won against a team after you even corporated with them while the game was live, taking their win away after all of that makes everything they did go to trash. Blame Flashpoint and don't ask for a rematch from a team who did nothing wrong and are 100% on their right the refuse it, like NiP were 100% on the right if they forfeited for not accepting the admins decision.
2021-05-17 13:25
8 replies
stay ignorant and dumb as fuck jerman 🤡
2021-05-17 13:31
7 replies
#110
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Germany Ryuzth
No argument I see, thanks for nothing shithead
2021-05-17 13:35
6 replies
realized you were jerman and theres no point in arguing with idiots
2021-05-17 13:38
5 replies
#113
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Germany Ryuzth
Yes, now comes the insults to a whole nationality, good ol hltv Keep digging your grave mate, I can ask another user to bring you a shovel if you want too
2021-05-17 13:41
4 replies
keep replying mald jerman 🤡🤡🤡
2021-05-17 13:41
3 replies
#118
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Germany Ryuzth
nt fakeflagger 🤡
2021-05-17 13:44
2 replies
nah im proud of my flag, you proud to be jerman? cause id be embarrassed as fuck 🤣🤡
2021-05-17 13:50
1 reply
#121
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Germany Ryuzth
I see you got the shovel, keep digging now 🤡
2021-05-17 13:52
+1 FluNIPense
2021-05-17 13:03
#126
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Finland KieZuZ
Typical swedish mentality.
2021-05-17 13:58
its just money. if u have money , u can od whatever the fuck u want.
2021-05-17 13:59
anonymo <3
2021-05-17 15:20
+1
2021-05-17 17:16
#138
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Spain elskio
-1 Nobody know it was Flashpoint server problem before, if it was nip’s own problem then none would ask for repaly.
2021-05-17 17:17
1 reply
NiP defiantly had a good connection after the restart. Their just trying to get a free win and fuck over a T2 team to do so
2021-05-17 17:34
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