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ANONYMO hypocrites?
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Norway non_radical_leftist_guy 
A lot of people going around blaming NiP for not doing fair play atm. That they lost and that is that. But honestly, you could make the case that it would be fair play by ANONYMO if they accepted to replay the last game. Since NiP was proven to have been at a big disadvantage, experiencing big amounts of lags during the bo3. Just like you could make the case that NiP should just take the loss even though they played at a big disadvantage, even though the disadvantage was caused by flashpoints servers and not NiPs.
2021-05-17 00:00
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rematch = unfair to anonymo no rematch = unfair to nip #BOYKOTTTRASHPOINT
2021-05-17 00:01
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+11111111
2021-05-17 00:02
#54
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Brazil AnimeFeet
yes but it's nip fault anyways, they should've asked for a tech pause until the loss was fixed
2021-05-17 00:19
43 replies
flashpoint/faceit forced them to play /closed
2021-05-17 00:20
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#62
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Brazil AnimeFeet
proof? as far as i know they kinda accepted play with the loss, they should've rejected continue the match until it was fixed
2021-05-17 00:23
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2021-05-17 00:25
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I would like to see some actual prove other than device's tweeting some bullshit about 30/40% loss and nips claimings that there was a problem
2021-05-17 00:28
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the logs were confirmed they experienced loss with spikes of 30-40%
2021-05-17 22:21
weren't u following the whole thing?
2021-05-17 04:15
You can't "force" someone to play. NiP thought that they still had a chance to win and that of they lost they could ask for a rematch. win / win for them. They could have refused and publicly explain why and ask for a reschedule / a different serv. They didn't
2021-05-17 00:33
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2021-05-17 00:35
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So ? It just proves my point. They agreed to keep playing. No admin was standing behind them with a gun. They should have refused to play if they were not ready to accept the outcome
2021-05-17 00:38
18 replies
are you stupid? or did you just not read it
2021-05-17 00:39
11 replies
he's right. Vitality and Mouz refused to play on blast series until they come to an agreement about the team's comms. I'm pretty sure they thought that they can beat anonymus easily. NIP won't do that against g2, complexity, big or an another well-known team.
2021-05-17 01:04
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no, he's not right, and blast and flashpoint arent even close to being the same. twitter.com/NIP/status/13940549248964403.. read this please, or stop commenting
2021-05-17 01:05
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I read the whole statement. So Nip is telling the whole truth because they produce a statement. Do you read the first rushed statement ? and anonymus is hypocrite, because they have the own view of the problem ?
2021-05-17 01:09
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Or you could read flashpoints statement, which says exactly the same. Doesn't matter who says it, it's the truth, and there is plenty of evidence, such as chat logs. edit in case you're too lazy to do your own research: twitter.com/Flashpoint/status/1393994557..
2021-05-17 01:11
6 replies
NIP Players could have just refused to play but noooo. The poor kids got pressured xD
2021-05-17 01:15
4 replies
smh level of stupidity not expected from dutch person
2021-05-17 01:15
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#153
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Lithuania marusgg
+1, dutch people seem chill and smart actually
2021-05-17 01:20
stop fanboying devve bruh
2021-05-17 01:21
flashpoint would have disqualified them, they could not even contact their org and discuss what to do.
2021-05-17 01:21
Since Flashpoint accept to post-time the match, it's normal NIP and Flashpoint said the same thing. But yes, they played with bad loss, which affect the series, but we don't know what NIP and flashpoint had bargained on the side. NIP has more leverage than anonymus. Anonymus was not really in the conversation. What I dont like is NIP can do that kind of pressure when other teams cannot.
2021-05-17 01:27
+1
2021-05-17 01:06
#132
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Poland r_e_x
+1, nip should have just forfeited, then rematch would be fair for both sides
2021-05-17 01:08
If NIP refused to play on Friday, that would mean they lose the game. Is it that difficult to understand?
2021-05-17 01:22
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That is not how things work. If they had refused to play and explained on social medias that they couldn't play on this serv, posting a screen of the loss % everybody would have pressured FlashPoint and there would have been a reschdedule or a serv change. Do you think that FP can accept a rematch now but it would have been impossible to postpone the match ? How naive. They didn't do it because they thought that they would easily win, especially after the first map. Then they lost and realize their mistake. I agree that TrashPoint are the ones to blame mostly but NiP didn't react properly and are now trying to get an unfair rematch thanks to their popularity. It's a very cheap move.
2021-05-17 01:30
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So you dont think that any other team would have complained and try to get a rematch after getting forced to play in a situation like this?
2021-05-17 17:36
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I believe that, while Flashpoint are by far the most faulty one here, NiP acted dumbly, probably believing that they would win anyway after their 16-3 first map and decided to take the risk. It didn't pay off and now they're crying. Although FlashPoint are the ones to blame most, you don't fix an unfair situation by creating an even more unfair one. I also believe that NiP fanbase was the most decisive aspect in the decision and if it had been anonymo suffering packet losses nothing would have happened.
2021-05-17 18:01
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apparently trashpoint said that if nip didnt play, it could be set as forfeit... so they were forced to play
2021-05-17 00:38
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2021-05-17 01:30
Depends how you define "force". Flashpoint delivered an ultimatum in which NiP had one route to go where they had a potential to win, though it would be an unfair game, or simply forfeit the match. This is a non-choice, as there's no upside (for NiP) in selecting the second option. "To force" simply implies compelling someone to do a certain action, and does not necessarily imply violence. Since NiP are given a non-choice, it's valid to say Flashpoint (or, more accurately, FACEIT) forced them to play.
2021-05-17 00:56
2 replies
+1 people here don't know how to read
2021-05-17 01:10
2021-05-17 01:31
are u mad ? forced the,m ? they got rematch 2 days later dude they should stop playing on first map and wait for new match date.. no ? dont f* tell me flashpoint would forefeit this game if nip had evidence just like now its not fair that nip tooks the chance to bit Ano with lags and now they want second chance cuz of the lags, that just not how pro should act
2021-05-17 00:59
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twitter.com/NIP/status/13940549248964403.. go read, if you know how to do that don't make statements about things you know nothing about mainly no. 5 & 6
2021-05-17 00:56
6 replies
Where did NiP ask to reschedule?
2021-05-17 00:59
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2021-05-17 01:03
they should not ask, just stop playing then deliver the evidence and wait for new date that would be less controversial than asking for rematch and gettin it after 2 days
2021-05-17 01:01
3 replies
are you stupid or did you just not read it? had they not played it could have lead to a forfeit, meaning they would miss out on RMR points
2021-05-17 01:03
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Wdym them forfeiting? Which one the reschedule or when it happened? if it were when it happened then clearly they can reschedule the match on another date because no solution was found, which the decision was clearly declined by flashpoint and forced NIP to play the game with losses. The fault was clearly over the TO's side(especially with the problem that lies within flashpoint security services. As of this point #121 is right because its the best and the right decision to take at that moment.
2021-05-17 04:09
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IF THEY COULD NOT HAVE PLAYED, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE PLAYED, THEY WERE FORCED TO PLAY DUMBASS
2021-05-17 12:31
im not saying that Reschedule now is correct, im just trying to see this in nip boots
2021-05-17 02:42
read statement lollllllllllllll
2021-05-17 09:42
Holy shit do you live under a rock? There was 1 hour tech pause and Nip players were complaining about lag in chat. It was problem on Faceit's end
2021-05-17 17:27
#112
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Sweden PwnarN
actually true
2021-05-17 00:57
#179
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Australia flashi
+1 truthful statement
2021-05-17 04:16
#194
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Reunion kolgab
+1
2021-05-17 12:40
Agreed
2021-05-17 00:02
#4
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Poland SebL
I still didn't see any proofs that NIP was lagging, I didn't see situation in the match where someone couldn't move or something, like device wrote that he couldn't move in 1v1 vs Snax, when he was moving for the whole time xD
2021-05-17 00:02
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#7
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Ireland JesuSenia
Blind?
2021-05-17 00:03
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#139
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Poland SebL
Link? Anything? Where are the proofs?
2021-05-17 01:11
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2021-05-17 12:33
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#200
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Poland SebL
This is the proof? LOL
2021-05-17 13:59
1 reply
0/8
2021-05-17 00:04
Have you even taken 5 minutes to read into this situation? It's been well proven and documented that NiP was actually playing with heavy lags
2021-05-17 00:07
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#104
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Poland synth55
where?
2021-05-17 00:53
2 replies
Flashpoint Twitter statement, Richard Lewis tweet confirming they were playing with 30-40% loss, LAUNDERS video on it. Etc.
2021-05-17 14:52
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#206
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Poland synth55
0/8
2021-05-17 14:54
#138
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Poland SebL
Where is this documentation? I've never seen that.
2021-05-17 01:11
1 reply
Flashpoint Twitter statement, Richard Lewis tweet confirming they were playing with 30-40% loss, LAUNDERS video on it. Etc.
2021-05-17 14:52
+1
2021-05-17 09:46
5/8
2021-05-17 17:28
#5
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Finland Kujis
I still didn't see any proofs that NIP was lagging, I didn't see situation in the match where someone couldn't move or something, like device wrote that he couldn't move in 1v1 vs Snax, when he was moving for the whole time xD
2021-05-17 00:03
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#95
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Poland synth55
+1
2021-05-17 00:45
Dumb it's client sided not server sided Jesus.
2021-05-17 09:39
1 reply
yes, but his moves were smooth af
2021-05-17 12:33
#195
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Reunion kolgab
bcs u are nothing... why would u need to see any proof? its enough if both teams and flashpoint saw them...
2021-05-17 12:42
2 replies
#196
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Finland Kujis
Ok nice you believe mafia lies? Ok
2021-05-17 12:45
1 reply
#197
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Reunion kolgab
im a fan of fiend... what do you think??? im the mafia
2021-05-17 12:46
Seems weird that Richard Lewis and Thorin only attack NIP side, and not flashpoint for the whole drama. RL even personally attack Dev1ce and made YT video for potentially lying about the packet loss issue, and kinda promotes the idea of "NIP threatens Flashpoint to replay" that causes a lot hate on NIP rn.
2021-05-17 00:03
From what we know - anonymous offered postponing the match second round in 3rd map. Faceit said no. Right now nip CEO 🤡 made drama about it, demanded replay and faceit says yes, without asking on confronting anonymous about it. Just like many others said - if roles were reversed nobody would give a fuck because anonymous is not nip.
2021-05-17 00:04
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Timeline of events according to NIP management twitter.com/NIP/status/13940549248964403..
2021-05-17 12:39
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NothingInPaypal
2021-05-17 14:18
#9
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United States breasts
anonymo should accept bet then throw
2021-05-17 00:03
I still didn't see any proofs that NIP was lagging, I didn't see situation in the match where someone couldn't move or something, like device wrote that he couldn't move in 1v1 vs Snax, when he was moving for the whole time xD
2021-05-17 00:04
I still didn't see any proofs that NIP was lagging, I didn't see situation in the match where someone couldn't move or something, like device wrote that he couldn't move in 1v1 vs Snax, when he was moving for the whole time xD
2021-05-17 00:04
has anyone actually ever played with packet loss themselves? at around 10% it already becomes unplayable to the point where u start teleporting and ur shots never register, theres absolutely no way nip had 30-40% as they claim
2021-05-17 00:05
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#16
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Finland Kujis
Idk if you have been sleeping for 3 days or what but it was 30% loss SPIKES, even Richard Lewis confirmed this, so no propaganda fiction between Flashpoint and NiP.
2021-05-17 00:08
8 replies
well spikes, u cant blame the outcome of the entire match on some occasional lags lmao
2021-05-17 00:08
7 replies
you actually can
2021-05-17 00:10
4 replies
i would say flag and flair checks out but i guess u already know that
2021-05-17 00:10
3 replies
dont car m8, I know I'm right
2021-05-17 00:11
2 replies
yeah and everyone in the world is wrong
2021-05-17 00:11
1 reply
I take it you've never played CS with fluctuating loss
2021-05-17 00:12
#39
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Finland Kujis
??? :Ddd what, it was 1-5% constant loss and 30% spikes. You can totally blame the loss on that
2021-05-17 00:12
#50
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Sweden MAJE5TIC
even 1-5% is unplayable, means enemys and you are lagging out like crazy for you. In those 30-40% spikes you cant move and will literally teleport
2021-05-17 00:16
#27
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Indonesia dannt
yea i played on 20%-30% @ faceit alot literal ass man there was no sounds at all no steps no gun sounds no nade sounds
2021-05-17 00:10
My friend i think that's good rule in any sport : even if you feel that arbiter harm you, you dont reapet game one more time. I'm sure you know some examples from footbal - for example Maradonna "hand of god" during world cup - he admite that he scored by hand and still no one reapet an entire game, right ?
2021-05-17 00:06
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#21
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Finland Kujis
That "hand of god" bullshit game should have been replayed. Absolute disgrace that went through, unjustified win for Argentina.
2021-05-17 00:10
Just because something was allowed to happen in the past, doesn't make it the "right" decision. And Maradonna's goal is comparable to cheats in csgo more than anything...and a replay would've definitely been the right way. Any decision here is wrong. My thinking is that since this is not an elimination game, they should just leave it as is, but you can definitely make an argument for both sides.
2021-05-17 00:20
#17
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Poland morosek
twitter.com/AnonymoEsports/status/139398.. Or if you're lazy "we've offered to reschedule it as soon as we've heard about the technical problems of NiP - they did not choose to do that." Don't blame anonymo, blame flashpoint. Also this twitter.com/faust7__/status/139400749982.. twitter.com/Flashpoint/status/1394007358..
2021-05-17 00:13
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"they" meaning flashpoint, not nip
2021-05-17 00:10
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#32
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Poland morosek
edit*
2021-05-17 00:11
3 replies
<3 <3 sry
2021-05-17 00:12
2 replies
#37
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Poland morosek
np my brother <3
2021-05-17 00:12
1 reply
thank u brother <3
2021-05-17 00:14
#25
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Finland Kujis
Yea, FLASHPOINT DID NOT CHOOSE TO DO THAT.
2021-05-17 00:10
2 replies
#47
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Poland morosek
Ik brother, just edited while you replied. Flashpoint should work together with both teams so rescheduling was the best idea. Right now they made that decision way too late. It should be over, NiP should focus on other matches and move on. It's a situation where nobody wins.
2021-05-17 00:16
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#52
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Finland Kujis
Astronaut🧑🏿‍🚀 in the ocean 🌊
2021-05-17 00:17
#35
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Sweden naztyy
nvm saw ur edit
2021-05-17 00:12
+1 Just accept it, no need to be butthurt about it. They lost and that's it.
2021-05-17 00:14
#19
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Japan Peine
Anonymo instantly offered to postpone the match, NiP refuted it now they've to fully assume their decision
2021-05-17 00:09
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#28
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Finland Kujis
Flashpoint refused it, not NiP
2021-05-17 00:10
6 replies
#36
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Japan Peine
flair checkout
2021-05-17 00:12
5 replies
#43
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Finland Kujis
Flag checkout, anime has melted brain
2021-05-17 00:13
#53
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Sweden MAJE5TIC
just read the article man instead of spreding hate and lies ty hltv.org/news/31756/nip-vs-anonymo-flash..
2021-05-17 00:18
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#55
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Japan Peine
Swedish people malding rn
2021-05-17 00:20
2 replies
#61
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Sweden MAJE5TIC
i would say that its everyone else malding, im pretty calm right now knowing everything will be all right and that justice will be served:)
2021-05-17 00:22
Weeb brain of course
2021-05-17 04:19
#42
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Sweden naztyy
It was faceit/flashpoint who declined it. Read this article : hltv.org/news/31756/nip-vs-anonymo-flash..
2021-05-17 00:13
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#44
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Finland Kujis
Flair! Fflag! Check!
2021-05-17 00:13
#20
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Poland xMBTx
"fair play by ANONYMO if they accepted to replay the last game" fairplay to replay won game? wut? why would they do that? they won case is closed like u can win one day and lose the other day, like if u could repeat some matches there would be 2 winners, like Astralis Navi, if they would play 2 bo3, sometimes 1bo3 would win Astralis and 1bo3 navi. So Anonymo has this win in the bag. They dont need to risk odds to play with NIP and proof anything. "NIP offered bo3 or last map" f off, anonymo offer to kiss their ass. They dont need to risk and prove anything to anyone. They already won. Replaying is BS btw. all these dumbies who creates threads like that, they talk with feelings like "fair play by ANONYMO if they accepted to replay the last game". That would only come from a women. A real man talks with logic and reason. Like they already won, so nothing is to prove to fairplay. Anonymo played according to the rules. Now NIP, Flashpoint and device CAN CRY
2021-05-17 00:09
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#31
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Finland Kujis
I think you're crying.
2021-05-17 00:11
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#41
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Poland xMBTx
I feel like my mm game should be replayed, cause I had lags sry me no play plz bring back my gold nova rank i no silver
2021-05-17 00:12
29 replies
big difference between your shit mm and a major qualifier, if you cant see that i dont see how you can even comprehend typing that paragraph crying like a little bitch
2021-05-17 00:21
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#65
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Poland xMBTx
yeah but its same shit for anonymo, why would they replay won match? navi today lost 2-0 vs ex-winstrike. Anything is possible. The match is over. Anonymo did nothing wrong. Boost on overpass was wrong, so that match is different. But Anonymo followed the rules, won and now is bullied by bigger org who is giving offers bo3 or last map? wtf, they dont need to play anything more, they dont need risk a loss, cause its a GAME, even worse team can win sometimes, if always better team would win it would be boring, no one would watch. Sprout won vs Faze, ex-winstrike won vs Navi. Everyone thinks that Anonymo would lose 100% with perfect condition on both sides. Thats a flawed statement As I said they dont need to risk to play a rematch, cause they already won. Cause if we replayed sprout vs faze maybe faze would win this time, or navi would win vs ex-winstrike
2021-05-17 00:26
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yeah im not responding to this, you are clearly so fucking delusional if you cant see the difference in nips game vs all the others. 🤡🤣 nip did nothing wrong either but are punished harshly for flashpoints mistake, hows that fair? it wasnt about anonymo outskilling nip, literally fucking clown 🤡
2021-05-17 00:29
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#71
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Poland xMBTx
Yeah, but replay won game is not an option. Sry man, you have no empathy for Anonymo. Also bad at math and no imagination. Like thats Nip and flashpoint problem, not Anonymo's
2021-05-17 00:31
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"Sry man, you have no empathy for Anonymo" "Like thats Nip and flashpoint problem, not Anonymo's" sorry man you have no empathy for anything but your dogshit team cause theres no other polish cs team, biggest hypocrite on hltv award
2021-05-17 00:33
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#79
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Poland xMBTx
Man, u just wanna DELETE this bo3 like if nip would win, everything would fine for everybody even with this 40%loss anonymo won, now is a problem, now we need to delete this bo3 do you have some common sense? They should whine during the match about postponing. Seems like it was fine and they ended the match. Now flashpoint and nip wants to bully Anonymo. Wtf
2021-05-17 00:35
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LMFAOOOO "BULLY ANONYMO" AHAHAHAHAHAH HOLY FUCKING SHIT MY SIDES 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, never in my life met someone this delusional holy shit im saving this 😂😂😂. flashpoint showed cleared favoritism towards anonymo by forcing nip to play out the match on shit lag but go off about how they were bullied, literal idiot 🤣🤣🤣🤣
2021-05-17 00:37
#81
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Poland xMBTx
Milk is spilled, Anonymo cant help NIP and Flashpoint. Match is over. Replay is not an option for the community and everybody who's competing in any games. Like this is not sportmanslike behaviour
2021-05-17 00:37
2 replies
not sportmanslike to force a team to play with extreme lag because the tourneys servers were dogshit either but i bet youll just ignore that 🤡🤡
2021-05-17 00:38
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#90
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Poland xMBTx
That was flashpoint decision. NIP should have complaints to FLASHPOINT, not to Anonymo. Anonymo can't solve this problem. Anonymo has their own interest, their own business. They dont need to do favors for NIP. Sorry, no favors, they are not oblige to give favors like replaying won matches. Thats why theres so much hate on nip and flashpoint
2021-05-17 00:40
It's not about replaying a "won" game, it's about replaying a game that NIP lost largely due to factors outside of the game. If it had been Anonymo who'd lost the game due to issues with faceit's server, wouldn't a rematch have been the only fair option?
2021-05-17 01:01
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#130
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Poland xMBTx
Yeah, but if NIP would won this game, it would be fine everything For me is like they want 1 more extra chance (like they fought bravely last 2 maps nails and toes) After the game no no no no no, during the game ok postpone is fine, cause YOU DONT KNOW THE FINAL RESULT OF BO3 Now we know the final result of this bo3 = anonymo won so during the match is fine to postpone, fix problems etc. now nip just want an extra chance, like if navi would beat astralis in 2 tries in bo3, they would have 2 tries, but only 1 would have to win, then navi would have way more titles everyone likes to have 2 chances, but sry GAME IS OVER, in competitive sports there is ONLY 1 CHANCE, no replays
2021-05-17 01:07
1 reply
So anonymo recieveing what is essentially a free win is fair?
2021-05-17 12:37
#69
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Poland xMBTx
for me is like nip want AN EXTRA chance. They would be glad either bo3 or last map, so thats why they are giving offers. Everyone would be happy with ONE EXTRA CHANCE. to win
2021-05-17 00:29
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🤡🤡🤡 clown country, no wonder polish cs is a joke to the rest of the community
2021-05-17 00:30
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#73
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Poland xMBTx
sry truth is harsh u know the saying. No one likes the truth, only clappings to the back. Keep living in fantasy
2021-05-17 00:32
13 replies
your team got dumpstered even while nip was lagging, 16-3 btw
2021-05-17 00:33
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#87
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Poland xMBTx
Yeah, they are not good at overpass. They said on stream its overpass curse But all teams have some better and weaker maps
2021-05-17 00:38
11 replies
your team got dumpstered even while nip was lagging, 16-3 btw your team got dumpstered even while nip was lagging, 16-3 btw had to say it 3 times for every round anonymo won so it might get through your hollow polish head 🤡
2021-05-17 00:39
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#92
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Poland xMBTx
Yeah they are better at overpass, no one denies it
2021-05-17 00:41
9 replies
better in general*** anonymo is a no name dogshit team that will disappear in a month or 2 like every horrible polish team, theres a reason no international team or orgs sign polish players anymore, all brainless and toxic (snax, michu, etc)
2021-05-17 00:44
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#98
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Poland xMBTx
You act like super league in footbal 12 teams great, rest are dogshit Anyone can have a chance. Sorry, but NIP is not given win at the beginning of the match. They lost 2-1. Cause of server problems? Ok, but why would Anonymo care? They didnt break any rules. Thats Flashpoint and NIP problem
2021-05-17 00:47
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anyone can have a chance but it should be a fair chance, something you polish smoothbrains cant figure out, if you guys are okay with getting a cheap win then that shows how desperate and dogshit your cs scene is 🤣🤡, thats why nip will be around a long time after anonymo dies and everyone will forget just another failed polish "super" team
2021-05-17 00:49
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#103
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Poland xMBTx
Im not saying that Anonymo is great etc or they last long idk but NIP slipped their fair chance, like during the match they shouldve postponed. After? nah, Anonymo dont need to give favors sry but its a BUSINESS, money is in it. Cmon, I know u understand it. Fair game they could manifested it BEFORE THE GAME, DURING THE GAMe but not after the game. After the game the case is closed. Anonymo didnt cheat, so...
2021-05-17 00:52
5 replies
twitter.com/NIP/status/13940549248964403.. flashpoint denied any solutions you fucking inbred, its not a business LMFAO, for most teams its a lifestyle and thats to be respected but of course you polish smoothbrains can only think of money and not integrity. there are rules in place for post match review for rematches, so not case closed delusional idiot
2021-05-17 00:54
4 replies
#113
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Poland xMBTx
So they should have complaints to FLASHPOINT Anonymo doesnt need to solve FLASHPOINT's problems. They won the match and they dont need to win 2nd time. They didnt break any rules. Like for example: Real - Barca Barca won, didnt break any rules, but Real want replay from UEFA and UEFA pushes Barca to replay, cause Real was in some kind disadvantage. Thats circus
2021-05-17 00:57
3 replies
real life doesnt have internet problems that were literally proven to be true. stay mald in lower bracket when nip wins cause you know anonymo doesnt have a chance vs nip when they can actually play. prolly why youre malding so hard
2021-05-17 00:59
2 replies
#118
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Poland xMBTx
I just dont like replay idea and bullying smaller orgs like trash. Anonymo doesnt need solve Flashpoint problems. They should say to them: I offer to kiss my ass
2021-05-17 01:00
1 reply
no one cares what some idiot fanbitch thinks, anyone who cares about the integrity of the major and the esport in general would be in favor of this replay. its not bullying you victim complex having pathetic freak, its literally whats fair nip forced a reschedule when heretics had lag problems but you wanna forget that cause that goes against your argument, im done here, stay malding about people having good morals cause you clearly have none.
2021-05-17 01:03
0/8
2021-05-17 00:10
#30
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Poland xMBTx
CIRCUS
2021-05-17 00:11
Anonymo shouldnt accept rematch, its not their fault, they did everything they could to make it fair. NiP should never start that match and report the fact that they can't postpone the match somewhere cuz that was rly shitty thing. They played the match, didn't make any reports during 3rd map, its over.
2021-05-17 00:12
3 replies
Feel like if they dont they Will be moved to lower bracket seems like nip pushed Flashpoint
2021-05-17 00:17
2 replies
We will see, most of the people don't support decidion about rematch. If they do, everyone will try to fuck flashpoint even harder. Either way, they fucked up by even touching that subject again. They make rushed and inconsiderate decidions which can be easly seen even by their dumb tweets.
2021-05-17 00:28
1 reply
Agreed for sure
2021-05-17 09:34
#48
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Brazil rodrigocm
If they don't replay the match, you can believe that the lag was intentional. And it's worse to have people complaining that the match will be redone than people thinking that you purposely screwed someone
2021-05-17 00:15
#49
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Portugal MrPato
From what Anonymo said, they actually were open to postponing the last match until NiP were able to find a fix for their issue, but said thing was denied by Faceit and the TO. If this turns out the be the truth, then this replay shouldn't happen. And in some way, this had nothing to do with Faceit servers or anything, since Anonymo wasn't lagging at all nor any other team that had played before. So this all falls under NiP's fault tbh. Although it might be a hard task, the org needs to make sure than everything is working fine on their behalf, and instead of pressuring Faceit and Flashpoint to replay the match, why didn't they pressure them to postpone the match while they were having those issues? Honestly you can blame everyone but Anonymo in this situation
2021-05-17 00:16
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"And in some way, this had nothing to do with faceit servers or anything, since anonymo wasnt lagging at all nor any other team that had played before. So this all falls under NiP's fault tbh" Not true. prnt.sc/130hacr That is directly from Flashpoint's statement on twitter. twitter.com/Flashpoint/status/1393994557.. " instead of pressuring Faceit and Flashpoint to replay the match, why didn't they pressure them to postpone the match while they were having those issues? Honestly you can blame everyone but Anonymo in this situation" They literally called for a postpone of the game after the 2nd round in the 1st map. Seems like you have barely read at all into this... Read the HLTV article or something idk. You miss too much information.
2021-05-17 00:28
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#80
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Portugal MrPato
No, they asked for a technical timeout on the 3rd round of the first match due to packet loss issues. According to Flashpoint official statement that you sent above, neither of those teams asked for the match to be rescheduled. Although i missed some information, NiP is still in thr wrong since according to Flashpoint statement, the issue seemed to be solved by the 3rd map probably because NiP stopped reporting them, although they were still having them.
2021-05-17 00:37
2 replies
That's weird, because according to the HLTV article, ANONYMO sources said that Faceit/Flashpoint declined a reschedule request made by them and NiP.
2021-05-17 00:38
1 reply
#99
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Portugal MrPato
NiP just released a statement aswell a couple of minutes ago that in someway refutes partially Flashpoint's statement, where they confirm that the possibility of a reschedule was on the table but Anonymo were, behind their backs, were trying to enforce a penalty to NiP in case of a replay. Idk, one statement says one thing, other says another, another one says that they're both lying.. something isn't right
2021-05-17 00:47
explain how faceit forcing nip to play with lag is nips fault? faceit literally refused any solution offered (like switching servers) and said no to any reschedules even tho both teams wanted it? actual smoothbrain take
2021-05-17 00:22
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#72
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Portugal MrPato
Well after reading the Flashpoint statement, NiP said that the issues had been "reportedly resolved" and the 3rd map went on to be played normally, thus meaning that although they could have been having issues, they stopped reporting them. And although i did make the mistake of saying that Anonymo offered to postpone the match, turns out that according to Flashpoint, that wasn't the case and neither of those teams stated that they wanted to delay the match. Tbh feels bad for NiP for them having issues that turns out, were out of their control since it had to with their connection to the Faceit servers, but also, why did they stop reporting those issues?
2021-05-17 00:31
1 reply
because it was clearly falling on deaf ears? why keep complaining about something when the TO clearly doesnt give a shit? better to make it public after and blow the lid off it, fuck flashpoint
2021-05-17 00:34
Yeah of course that would be fair(i am sarcastic).Anonymo couldn't prepare for game that they had won before.It's not their fault that NIP had issues.The game was played and Anonymo tryied to help but NIP decided to play and if they rematch that means Anonymo lost.Now NIP can f*** off and focus on lower bracket.
2021-05-17 00:28
I think fair solution shd be 1-0 advantage to ano n 1 map pick to both teams..
2021-05-17 00:46
#110
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Germany Kexor
if you are in huge disadvantage....you should not play the hole bo3 and cry after its like one soccer team need to play without shoes and cry after the match that they lost
2021-05-17 00:56
1 reply
NIP wanted to resolve the issue, but couldn't (As proven by the Flashpoint investigation) NIP also wanted to postpone the match, which FP denied. Both teams pushed for a replay which was denied by faceit. What should they've done?
2021-05-17 01:03
#131
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United States Azaqa
No rematch=slightly unfair to NiP even though they bear some of the blame Rematch=unfair to ANONYMO who were professional the whole time, tried to work with NiP to find a solution, and won the match with no blame for what happened In general: Flashpoint has some absolute degenerate morons for TO and should hire competent people who dont make these horrible decisions both during and after the game
2021-05-17 01:07
9 replies
What blame? They wanted to postpone on 1-1 on overpass but flash point said no and the investigation showed that the issue with the server was all faceits fault not nips in the slighest
2021-05-17 01:26
8 replies
#167
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United States Azaqa
Yea some very fishy things about that: How is it a security issue from faceit if it wasnt fixed when trying nord, and also no other teams having the issue out of the 16 teams in event? Doesnt make much sense to me. Also if NiP simply had a 2nd ISP this is a non issue but they only had one, while a tiny org like ANONYMO has 4. Even individuals have 2 such as flom at his home. This is an obvious oversight and should never be happening with such a huge org. Also NiP accepting to continue the match although they felt the packet loss was unplayable makes no sense, and in accepting to continue playing they are accepting the results. As someone else said: If you go gambling you cant take a chance on winning and then after losing say "I want to redo that". If you win you obviously dont complain. The only solutions fair to both teams is A. trashpoint allowed postponing B. NiP refuse to play until their connection is fixed, trashpoint will be fucked if they dare DQ for that or C. NiP accept the loss as they agreed to continue playing and it didn't work out for them
2021-05-17 01:32
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#169
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Finland Kujis
Option B. NiP refuse to play and they get instantly disqualified probably off the whole tournament. Nothing would happen to flashpoint, because it's in the rolebook. Valve wouldn't care because those are the rules, community doesn't have a word in this - what are they gonna do? Boycott the streams? Yea sure.
2021-05-17 02:15
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#173
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United States Azaqa
LMAO sure man you really think it'd fly to just DQ the most hyped up team in the event because they wanted the match postponed to have an acceptable connection? You see all the pros and CSPPA members tweeting against NIP and Flashpoint? It'd be the same thing.
2021-05-17 03:42
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#175
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Finland Kujis
Yes, it would fly. These are the rules, a single team is not bigger than the whole event.
2021-05-17 04:10
4 replies
#177
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United States Azaqa
And yet they are as theyve convinced Flashpoint to make a ridiculous ruling completely unprecedented in CS history
2021-05-17 04:12
3 replies
#198
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Finland Kujis
It's not really a "ridiculous ruling", it's in the same rules as the DQ is. Even Valve approved of the decision, as they would do as if NiP got disqualified. It's not about any org or anything, simply the rules.
2021-05-17 12:46
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#207
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United States Azaqa
Ah yea yea because valve don't give a shit must mean its a good ruling. Even if it is "the rules" whoever made the rule is braindead this should never be happening
2021-05-17 17:19
1 reply
#208
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Finland Kujis
Yes i also hate fair treatment.
2021-05-17 17:25
I'm not sure why Anonymo spreading lies but it's really disgraceful twitter.com/jonasgundersen/status/139405..
2021-05-17 01:28
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2021-05-17 02:43
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#176
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Finland Kujis
What? Facts?
2021-05-17 04:11
what lies? NIP spread lies right now and say "Staff asked for a rematch" sure they do it without talking to the players that have to play the match in the end.
2021-05-17 09:37
Looking through both Flashpoint's release and NiP's timeline of events on Twitter (both linked below), it seems that NiP never officially requested for the match to be postponed. An Anonymo player suggested postponing the match in the in-game chat, but I don't believe a formal request was made by either side (assuming that a message in the in-game chat doesn't count as a formal request). Assuming all of this is true, I think the situation falls on NiP for not submitting a formal request to replay the map. However, if an official request *was* made and it was denied by Flashpoint or FACEIT, this falls entirely on them and not NiP. I think the best thing for Flashpoint to do going forward is to reiterate a clear protocol for what a team can do in a similar situation. I don't think the match or last map should be replayed. Keep in mind, this doesn't even mean NiP is out of the tournament. Sure, the lower bracket kind of sucks, but they certainly still have a chance.
2021-05-17 01:50
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> Assuming all of this is true, I think the situation falls on NiP for not submitting a formal request to replay the map. However, if an official request *was* made and it was denied by Flashpoint or FACEIT, this falls entirely on them and not NiP. Yes I think people somehow forget that they did not ask formally for postpone. Just tried to win with the lag and then when match was over complained. Atleast i did not see this. Then however only players are allowed to be there on live game now so maybe there was some miscommunication going on. I don't expect the players to know tournament rule book in this kind of detailed problem. Nor them to have technical expertise to prove that its game server side problem. However my fear in this is that what if smaller teams have this kind of problems (packets being blocked by game server). I don't expect them to have tech team like NiP to prove its game server side issue. Quite a integrity problem.
2021-05-17 09:44
As someone said No rematch=slightly unfair to NiP even though they bear some of the blame Rematch=unfair to ANONYMO who were professional the whole time, tried to work with NiP to find a solution, and won the match with no blame for what happened In general: Flashpoint has some absolute degenerate morons for TO and should hire competent people who dont make these horrible decisions both during and after the game
2021-05-17 02:31
One Flaspint plz
2021-05-17 09:44
#199
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Poland kaspr02
ANONYMO agreed to EVERYthing flashpoint and nip proposed on that day. And now after winning they have to replay the match??? This is genuinely hilarious, the fact nip put pressure on flashpoint too makes them trash as well. Both flashpoint and nip are bad. #JusticeForAnonymo
2021-05-17 12:50
1 reply
NiP are not bad for this. They got screwed by flashpoint/faceit and played a BO3 with big lag issues. You should understand that they want to replay this match.
2021-05-17 14:54
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