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lmao we posted the same thing bruhh
2021-05-17 00:32
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NO1 cars
2021-05-17 00:37
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battle between org, i remember when european super league come out, the player just want to get the ucl trophy and the owner almost destroy that dream. same here imo
2021-05-17 00:41
Anonymo management starting to look more and more like hypocrites in my eyes...
2021-05-17 00:33
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+1
2021-05-17 00:34
+1
2021-05-17 00:35
#9
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Denmark Mads_Miskat
Why? If what NIP is saying are true, then the reason for NIP's packet loss that Flashpoint apparently found, couldn't have been, so i understand Anonymo fully. If the server was throtling traffic from NIP's ip ranges, then a VPN would have solved the issue... Therefore something doesn't add up, and either Flashpoint or NIP should revert their statement on that matter.
2021-05-17 00:37
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twitter.com/suom1/status/139400965191467.. Read this thread. I don't understand shit of what they are saying, but one of those guys works at ESL with stuff like this. So I imagine that he knows what he's talking about. Hope he explained it.
2021-05-17 00:37
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Actually exactly the same issue i was pointing at, so it's nice to see someone else asking the same questions.
2021-05-17 00:42
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Sorry to say, if Flashpoints statement are true, then Charlotte doesn't seem to know what she is talking about... In the end, no matter who is right... A VPN should have solved the problem, and it didn't... So the problem is most likely laying outside what has been stated at the moment. She is PR and has been praising ESL for their set-up, yesterday when i actually started asking questions, she stopped responding.
2021-05-17 00:44
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Ye I mean I have no clue about this. You know 100x more about this than me. But it seems weird af to me that flashpoint would make up that the issue was their fault.
2021-05-17 00:44
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In cases like this, it can be hard to pinpoint the exact issue, so it could be that they actually don't know what caused it So it's not that i call Flashpoint liars, but the statement from them and statement from NIP doesn't add up. Again... NIP could have messed up with their VPN and if that is the case, then Flashpoint could be right, but then the fault would have been partly on NIP.
2021-05-17 00:47
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or they found out during the match that every other server on the planet works just fine and only flashpoint server doesn't.
2021-05-17 10:59
9 replies
Still doesn’t justify that it was more than likely a problem with NIPs ISP
2021-05-17 12:55
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flashpoint has already acknowledged that it was their mistake, so i don't know what you're referring to.
2021-05-17 13:17
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Ok Explaining basic networking here: Flashpoint acknowledged, that the problem was caused by a ‘’Security setting’ rejecting som of NIP/Telia Swedens packets, due to a malconfiguration right? NIP stated that they tried to solve the problem by using a VPN Simplified a VPN, makes it look like you’re originating from another ISP/Country/IP, than you are. So whatever ‘’Security Setting’’ Flashpoint had, the VPN should circumvent this, but it didn’t. Therefore either Flashpoint hasn’t found the problem or NIP fucked up in regards of using the VPN. As the 2 statements undermine eachother
2021-05-17 13:22
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So basically either nip or flashpoint is lying
2021-05-17 15:15
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Not neccesarily lying, it's not really a lie if the one telling it believes in the lie.
2021-05-17 16:47
hmm interesting point. thanks for elaborating.
2021-05-17 19:02
I don’t care if they replay the match, but for that to happen their explanation has to be bulletproof and right now it isn’t, because NIP and Flashpoints statements are underminere eachother So either Flashpoint has the determine the real reason or NIP has to admit they fucked up troubleshooting One could argue that NiP fucking up in regards with the VPN wouldn’t be their problem, but if they didn’t, then Flashpoint hasn’t found the issue and i don’t understand how people don’t get that. + If i as a Flashpoint admin, heard that NIP tried using a VPN and it still didn’t work, i would too suspect the problem to be at their end, so if NiP fucked up, they might have contributed to the wrong decision. Been working with networks for 6 years, so i have a pretty deep understanding in How things work.
2021-05-17 13:30
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if i found out that every other server on the planet works, but not the flashpoint one.. i would suspect there is something wrong on the flashpoint's end. then there's the little snag about staff not being allowed in the room with the players as not even coaches are allowed in the room, so there's very little resources available to the players' to find out and fix the problem.
2021-05-17 17:45
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I haven't said that the problem couldn't be with FaceIT - But the current explanation doesn't add up, with what NIP are saying, unless NIP did something wrong during their troubleshooting, which can of course happen. However NIP are literally the only ones experiencing this kind of problems during the whole tournament.
2021-05-17 18:18
However it does seem like Charlotte are just trying to push how much better ESEA are than FaceIT, same thing she did here on HLTV.
2021-05-17 00:55
nordvpn lmaooo
2021-05-17 00:49
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+1
2021-05-17 10:48
#10
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Italy MulaManca
+1
2021-05-17 00:35
+1 Questionable situation but the only choice for EQUAL match. NiP was forced to play with disadvantage, they want justice, Anonymo fans are coming to cry EVEN as NiP is right. For example the Optic India disqualification, would it have been equal to say "Well it is your own problem" as teams were playing against a cheater. I understand why Anonymo/Anonymo fans are mad, but it is not Nip´s fault either, only factor to blame about this is Trashpoint.
2021-05-17 00:39
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#94
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Sweden affemannen
+1
2021-05-17 01:43
#33
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Sweden flabbit
+1
2021-05-17 00:47
cry is free
2021-05-17 01:36
Loss problems stopped at map 3 and it was completly fair for both teams anonymo won fair match shouldnt be replayed
2021-05-17 01:40
The org that couldn’t play its players properly is in the right? Lmao
2021-05-17 02:51
15 replies
Someone that has been wrong in the past can be right in the present...
2021-05-17 14:33
14 replies
well they arent so nt
2021-05-17 15:03
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#170
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Denmark Notallama
name checks out
2021-05-17 15:05
12 replies
I shouldnt have expected any less from you. Defending terrible org lmao
2021-05-17 15:06
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#173
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Denmark Notallama
Just because they're a terrible org does not automatically mean that they're always in the wrong. It seems like Anonymo is equally terrible. Learn to read and comprehend (although, given your flag, it might be too much to be expected).
2021-05-17 15:09
10 replies
They are in the wrong though dumb fuck. Pressuring a small org too replay a match even though they did nothing wrong. NiP has no proof of anything either, so I dont know why I should reread their lies.
2021-05-17 15:09
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#176
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Denmark Notallama
There's no need to get so upset just because you lack the basic ability of reading and comprehension.
2021-05-17 15:10
8 replies
What do I need to reread? Clearly you are braindead because they have provided nothing to prove their innocence.
2021-05-17 15:11
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#180
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Denmark Notallama
wdym "prove" The server logs are already available. It isn't my fault that you lack the brain capacity to read up on something before you start hard raging with ad hominems.
2021-05-17 15:18
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Ironic you bring up ad hominems when you did it first you fucking idiot. Also, the server logs does not make NiP's actions justifiable. Taking it out on a small org because they can. NiP wouldnt have to worry about a rematch if Anonymo had the same experience.
2021-05-17 15:30
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#184
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Denmark Notallama
So basically this is you: "Fuck those guys, those other guys are in the right. Nobody has any proof and I can't read, but fuck those guys amirite" Somehow you manage to look dumb on HLTV. I'm not sure how that's even possible considering the average intelligence on these forums, but you accomplished it. Congratulations.
2021-05-17 16:01
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Complains about ad hominen and then proceeds to do it yourself. Addresses none of my claims and continues to use ad hominen. Nice one.
2021-05-17 17:02
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#189
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Denmark Notallama
I never claimed that I didn't use ad hominems, especially towards someone that already raged hard and used it himself. The difference is, I firmly believe my ad hominems to be true, in contrast to your insults which are just desperately added for the sake of being insults.
2021-05-17 17:04
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You still haven't addressed any of my claims or provided any reasoning yet I am the one who cannot read. Don't reply to me if you do not have any reasoning to your dogshit claim.
2021-05-17 17:21
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#191
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Denmark Notallama
Well, you have shown no proof of your claims so basically you're going against what you said yourself. Own goal?
2021-05-17 17:43
ANON beat NIP fair and square now NIP bully small org. Only cunts here are NIP
2021-05-17 10:18
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you haven't read the tweet, haven't you?
2021-05-17 11:40
NIP didn't prove nr4 claim. So for now NIP is the liar.
2021-05-17 10:29
yep, fuck them
2021-05-17 11:39
imgur.com/a/nxkp1nu check this bro, conversation between admin and anonymo manager. "it's fine" "no worries" this is how forcing DQ looks?
2021-05-17 14:41
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twitter.com/Szuster_00/status/1394269935.. and there are more from conversation with admins. nip are just clowns and that's it
2021-05-17 14:45
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Nice cherrypicking, you casually forgot when they called for rule enforcement and said nip should forfeit first map
2021-05-17 17:55
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it's on the first screen i posted above. They just said: "please remember about penalties". Nip called that forcing forfeit OMEGALUL
2021-05-17 17:58
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It is
2021-05-17 18:01
Have you read the chatlogs in that picture? He's pressuring them to either DQ NiP from first map or to start the game with the laggy server. lol
2021-05-17 17:58
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lol he just copied flashpoint rules. Is that what you call pressuring, forcing or whatever? LUL guys
2021-05-17 18:00
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Those rules are made for teams that arrive late to their games lmao Not for teams that are experiencing technical issues DUE TO THE TOURNAMENT ORGANIZERS SHIT SERVERS. Like what? Anonymo knew that NiP were just trying to solve their lag issues, they knew that NiP weren't late to the game or something like that
2021-05-17 18:01
1 reply
still it wasn't forcing by any means
2021-05-17 18:34
indeed +1
2021-05-17 17:53
still, nip full of bullshit
2021-05-17 00:35
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#32
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Sweden flabbit
Are you retarded or baiting?
2021-05-17 00:46
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#198
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Sri Lanka w7tv
are u not fakeflager
2021-05-17 17:58
#64
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Sweden randigdot
-100
2021-05-17 01:01
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#201
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Sri Lanka w7tv
0/8 accept your org is shit
2021-05-17 17:58
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#205
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Sweden randigdot
how
2021-05-17 18:02
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#206
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Sri Lanka w7tv
they should have paused/not played the match if it was that bad, asking for rematch hours later isn't it, but trashpoint also
2021-05-17 18:05
2 replies
my god how can you be so dumb, have you even looked into the situatuion at all?
2021-05-17 18:36
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#210
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Sri Lanka w7tv
yes brainwashed by love of org, have seen all the way long, nip are bunch of dumbass, as flashpoint, but expected from TO that hires thorin
2021-05-17 18:38
+1 omly swedish ppl dont see it
2021-05-17 10:49
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yeah sure, because NiP has the power to put pressure on Valve, this tweet is complete bullshit
2021-05-17 00:51
I would take that tweet with a grain of salt lmao
2021-05-17 00:53
12 replies
:/ flag checks out
2021-05-17 00:54
10 replies
You're a moron lmao, Richard Lewis always exaggerates shit. First day he said NiP was making shit up about their packet loss.
2021-05-17 01:00
9 replies
flag checks out even harder :////////
2021-05-17 01:00
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#98
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Finland Kujis
Bait checks out
2021-05-17 02:03
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flair checks out
2021-05-17 02:50
You look like a moron in this case. Even tho RL is a massive shit, this tweet of his is correct. Let's be real if we switch the teams in this situation and Anonymo are the ones playing with 40% packet loss and losing. There is absolutely no way the rematch would happen.
2021-05-17 12:45
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Richard Lewis on that tweet is spreading conspiracy shit, that BIg bad org NiP is behind the scenes pressuring and FORCING flashpoint into this. All NiP did was send a formal request that is fully allowed according to playbook and anyone can do.
2021-05-17 13:48
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The issue is not with NIP particularly. Just like the tweet says "A big org pressuring someone to give in to their demands because things didn't go according to their script." Every big organization would have a big advantage in situations like these. No tournament organizer wants to get on the bad list of the big dogs. Do you think they care if Anonymo boycotts their next events? Ofc not. NIP boycotting on the other side could create some issues. I'm fine with NIP investigating the cause of the issue, cause it was a fuck up from Flashpoint, but it's straight-up disrespectful and dishonorable for both the organization and the players to demand a rematch.
2021-05-17 14:03
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"A big org pressuring someone to give in to their demands because things didn't go according to their script. Critique Flashpoint for their weakness but it's NiP that exerted that pressure." Is a VERY misleading way to describe this situation. "Big org pressuring someone to give in to their demands" Aka send in a formal request, which anyone can do and is fully allowed in the rulebook? "Because things didn't go according to their script" More like because they were forced by faceit to play an entire BO3 with major lags, due to faceit's server issues and faceit refusing to reschedule. "Critique Flashpoint for their weakness but it's NiP that exerted that pressure" Again, all they did was send a formal request with proof of faceit servers being the issue, how much the lag impacted them etc. After flashpoint did their own investigation and came to the same conclusion they simply accepted the formal request. Richard Lewis is making it seem like NiP bruteforced a rematch into happening by peer pressuring and forcing flashpoint to do this, and that flashpoint eventually gave in. That is misleading beyond words.
2021-05-17 14:11
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Agreed
2021-05-17 15:22
Nope, IMO the statement by RL is still pretty accurate. And even if we take your view in this situation and NIP are angels and just sent a formal request to review the problem, players and org are still massive douches and show no professional respect with agreeing to force Anonymo to play a rematch.
2021-05-17 17:50
you dont know much about what truly goes on in esports :(
2021-05-17 00:54
Anonymo rekt
2021-05-17 00:36
last point `flashpoint statement released´ the statement that said nips are the ones offering things or the reworked statement after their fail lol
2021-05-17 00:36
2021-05-17 00:37
18 replies
Funny how 90% of their complains were before game 1
2021-05-17 00:47
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#35
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Canada Femtal
they complained on all three maps lol why would they spam the chat every game it was pretty obvious that it would not be fixed 0 IQ SPOTTED
2021-05-17 00:48
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#69
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Sweden randigdot
+1
2021-05-17 01:07
How is that weird tho?
2021-05-17 00:59
1 reply
#77
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Lithuania marusgg
+1, i dont get it xd
2021-05-17 01:11
#70
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Poland maxiebeast
Like Anonymo was like always, chilling and enjoy moment. Nip ofc tryhard and showing that they'r betta and fking mad for nothink, on first map (when they won) they didnt had a problem but after 2nd and on 3rd on early ...
2021-05-17 01:07
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Are you blind? Don't you see how much they were complaining about the lags during the first map? And how mad they were at the admin for starting the game??? device even called the admin a moron
2021-05-17 01:22
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"Moron" i see a device fan but i ll try... yes they were complaining on map 1 but said it was okay on 2nd and 3rd ... also anonymo paid respects "sadge" etc - there is no reason u could think NIP had enormous problems one 2nd and 3rd map
2021-05-17 11:01
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They were complaining in map 2&3, but regardless, wtf do you expect? FaceIT already did their decision, and they Said that NiP has to play like it is or they get Disqualified. Of course they will complain and write less in the ingame chat about it after the decision already was made by faceit. Wtf are you on about?
2021-05-17 14:22
Show me that, they just won 1st one 16;3 xDD
2021-05-17 11:33
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Go to reddit, open thread that says "NiP full ingame chatlogs" and Read it.
2021-05-17 14:20
#99
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Finland Kujis
Mad for nothing = lagging on a server on a major qualifying tournament :Dd
2021-05-17 02:06
#71
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Lithuania marusgg
this is so good, thanks!
2021-05-17 01:07
1 reply
Welcome
2021-05-17 01:12
Thanks for the effort!
2021-05-17 01:50
3 replies
You're welcome
2021-05-17 01:52
2 replies
how did u get access u the admin? (why would u post then this paints flashpoint in even worse light and even Device as relatable)
2021-05-17 11:02
1 reply
It wasn't me, was a brazilian journalist who got access, and Device he admited that he was toxic towards admin and apologiazed, said that will let his perfomance talk more loud.
2021-05-17 14:57
NiP still lost the media war (too) + NiP didn't request rematch after 2 rounds on map1 but only one day after they lost
2021-05-17 00:43
14 replies
i thought danes had brains... use them mens )))
2021-05-17 00:58
2 replies
Nice argument
2021-05-17 01:04
1 reply
ur edit was needed +1
2021-05-17 11:02
NiP and ANONYMO wanted reschedule on during tech pause in map1, but it was declined by faceit/flashpoint, according to ANONYMO sources. Written in HLTV article. NiP then did a formal rematch request after they lost, after they had documented the severity of the lag and after they had been troubleshooting what the cause of the issue was.
2021-05-17 00:58
7 replies
But it's too late when the match has played out. NiP should have asked formally for a rematch before 1st map was played out
2021-05-17 01:02
4 replies
just read the fucking tweet ffs, the players were not allowed to have any contact to their orgs because of valves new rules, they didn't even know what the problem was until the match was over and the players were allowed to contact them.
2021-05-17 01:10
3 replies
Read it. NiPs version only and doesn't change a thing. When the match is played, the result stands, even if it's unfair to NiP
2021-05-17 01:28
2 replies
+1 results are and should only be anulated if a player is caught cheating and even then there are limits ... as (i believe) cadian tweeted "there were no replays of matches kqly participated in."
2021-05-17 11:07
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#146
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United Kingdom OllieUK
Honestly the Anonymo players handled it fairly. The flashpoint rules didnt allow for non-flashpoint servers to be used. Anonymo agreed to use non-flashpoint servers but wasnt allowed. They then were forced to play on. Okay sure then NiP win a map 16-3 thats the bit that makes me confused. NiP were supposed to be on practically unplayable net yet won 16-3 I aint buying that. Yes NiP are a superior team but Anonymo arent bad theyre still a top tier 2 team. They shouldve dicked NiP with 40% loss. It makes me think it wasnt at all as bad as NiP stating. Sure it probably made them lose but it cant have been that bad
2021-05-17 13:28
i had an exam in math (studiing math rn so im pretty good) in my A lvls and i had stomach aches and couldnt focus my fault for not pausing the exam and seeing a doctor - same goes for nip i guess P.S. I tried the same way as NIP but asked first of all if a doctor statement would suffice after the fact (it didnt)
2021-05-17 11:05
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"i had an exam in math (studiing math rn so im pretty good) in my A lvls and i had stomach aches and couldnt focus my fault for not pausing the exam and seeing a doctor - same goes for nip i guess" Well same doesn't really go for NiP honestly. Because they almost instantly requested a technical timeout, 2 rounds into the first game. They requested to reschedule, Anonymo offered to do that as well. They spent like 40 minutes trying to solve the issue, until faceit admins said "get ready" "we are starting", which really pissed NiP off, since they still had the lag issues. FaceIT declined any request to reschedule, because they thought the lag issues was NiP's fault.
2021-05-17 13:56
twitter.com/nelendirekt/status/139423842.. Read the rules, they are not allowed to so they gather evidence after the match and send in the complaint
2021-05-17 13:31
2 replies
But this wasn't a breach or violations of rules, so it doesn't apply here
2021-05-17 13:51
1 reply
It goes under Breach of regulation because its TOs firewall issue. So them blockng traffic from NiP office is a breach of regulation.
2021-05-17 14:21
Writed not In Russian => NiP excusing again,expected from dog org,also Fl🗑shpoint checks out
2021-05-17 00:39
1 reply
bruh
2021-05-17 00:57
NIP has a good point. It was a Flashpoint error that lead to the packet loss. It's unfair for them to lose under unfair circumstances
2021-05-17 00:45
#30
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Sweden flabbit
Wow actually destroyed, clown Anonymo
2021-05-17 00:46
3 replies
I knew since the start of this whole shit that something is wrong. This fuckers obviously knew that the match will be replayed and they were shitting NiP for the whole day to get the community on their side, but It came out in the end that Anonymo shitted themselves. So fucking nice to see it. And will be even nicer when polish retards will lose 16-0 on a replay match.
2021-05-17 00:58
#72
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Sweden randigdot
+1
2021-05-17 01:09
Wow braindead fans :o can i take a picture?
2021-05-17 01:10
tldr please. Im too lazy for this shit..
2021-05-17 00:50
2 replies
#45
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Canada Femtal
can't TLDR its pretty short just read it
2021-05-17 00:51
1 reply
k
2021-05-17 00:52
Honestly flashpoint handled this pretty well
2021-05-17 00:53
1 reply
Agreed flashpoint definitely handled this all very professionally
2021-05-17 01:15
Bruv they just cannot take the L
2021-05-17 00:56
1 reply
#73
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Sweden randigdot
-1
2021-05-17 01:09
Just replay first map so these pyjamas ninjas can get 3-0ed
2021-05-17 01:01
1 reply
#79
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Lithuania marusgg
under 8 rounds to anonymo if they replay bo3 under 3 if they play bo1
2021-05-17 01:12
Timeline of events: 1. nip lose 2. nip cry
2021-05-17 01:10
2 replies
Timeline of events: 1. snekky born 2. snekky retarded
2021-05-17 06:03
1 reply
I forgot 3. NIP fanboys cry
2021-05-17 08:55
if 11. is true then there is nothing to discuss about, the match needs to be replayed whatever the result was otherwise it opens the door for corruption
2021-05-17 01:16
2 replies
+1
2021-05-17 01:52
The door for corruption is already open ... - Very weird that the packet loss only affected one team and not the other ... LOL 3... 2... 1...
2021-05-17 09:12
#106
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Russia Rapu
What are they trying to prove? They lost the match, that's all. Maybe it's not very fair and that wasn't their own fault, but it's a fact. And I have one question: if these issues happened to a small org like Anonymo - would they replay the match?
2021-05-17 09:46
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#125
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Netherlands EFR89
Of course not, the only reason this is apparently a thing is because NIP is a big organisation and Anonymo is small. Have you ever seen a Champions League football match being replayed because of referee mistakes? I think not.
2021-05-17 11:05
Two things should never happen in esport. Playing with lags and replaying done game. First allready happened which is unfair to NiP, second is about to happen. Trashpoint should pay for this no matter outcome.
2021-05-17 10:41
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#148
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Sweden gNeJS
+1 Feel bad for both teams. None of them have done anything wrong both just wanna play good cs and qualify for major.
2021-05-17 13:40
#121
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Netherlands EFR89
NIP should have stopped playing the match if they felt the packet loss was too big of an issue. Playing the full game (and almost winning) made them lose their chances of getting a rematch since they already had their chance to win.
2021-05-17 11:04
1 reply
Just stopping to play is a forfeit. They didnt have the choice to ask for a rematch at a later point in time during the game. Flashpoint didnt allow it
2021-05-17 13:26
Match has been played, ultimately it was flashpoints fault but nothing you can do about it now. On to the next match ty.
2021-05-17 11:09
Just take the fucking loss NiP, jesus christ.
2021-05-17 11:34
Afterall, the whole situation as bad managed by Flashpoint.
2021-05-17 14:44
2021-05-17 15:01
NiP, also known as Numerous Internet Problems is a professional CS:GO team from Sweden. They feature players such as dev40%ce, Plosski. They are known for their signature strat of paying Flashpoint for a rematch on Mirage. .
2021-05-17 17:44
Timeline: 1. Woke up 2. Took a shit 3. Got out of bed
2021-05-17 17:55
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