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why blame NiP?
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Latvia heywire 
Flashpoint should had rescheduled match for tomorrow after round 2 = 1-1 when hampus disconnected. Now they realize they messed up, and reschedule, would you had say no if flashpoint said replay of match, fuck no, that's just the human thing to do when you got unfairly treated doing a match. Sucks for anomyo, they thought they won the game and could move on, flashpoint should pay them for their mistake honoestly for wasting their time and give them false hopes. I hope if anymou wins the rematch they won't go after NiP players, and if NiP players win, i hope they won't go after anymou. They should all go after flashpoint they dont deserve to be A RMR event, that doesn't even have to go prizepool money because everyone there for RMR. Valve gives them FREE MONEY and don't use them smartly at all, i am so pissed at this fucking trash event, hope they get removed from RMR.
2021-05-17 02:05
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only braindead people blame nip #boycotttrashpoint
2021-05-17 02:05
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+1
2021-05-17 02:06
Indeed.
2021-05-17 02:09
I must be braindead with a 122 iq I blame NIP for pressuring for a rematch, not the way Flashpoint handled the situation All parties are at wrong here
2021-05-17 02:12
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Latvia heywire
2021-05-17 02:12
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Yes i am the most intellectually gifted person on HLTV Thank you 😘
2021-05-17 02:14
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Albania maidz4
i blame both
2021-05-17 02:31
Screw NIP management, screw Faceit and Flashpoint, #trashpoint and all that but like cmon i see so many people cursin out dev1ce and all the players involved like dude the players got the worst of it. I feel bad for them. Anonymo stated that they offered a replay/rematch to faceit but faceit pressured it must go on. Thats just stupid. I entirely blame management from both teams including the TO
2021-05-17 02:21
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-anonymo orga some of the claims are surely lies - nip has way more finances to pull the public opinion towards them whereas anonymo has it tough even without
2021-05-17 02:25
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okay true, but still, dont blame the players :l. I totally agree, and feel for anonymo. The win was deserved and they all worked hard for it. It isnt fair especially since the org and team offered multiple times to faceit and everyone to restart. I blame NIP management and the TO's. But what the managament tweeted out of anger was a bit inflammatory to be fair mate. -Have a great day mens! :D stay safe out there
2021-05-17 04:39
Sorry next time I won’t blame nip for using their position in the scene to strong arm a new TO into scheduling a rematch after they lost :)
2021-05-17 02:31
isnt nip forcing anonymo to replay the match?
2021-05-17 02:50
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Denmark Almoe
anonymo cringelords for dodging fair replay of match knowing its a fluke result
2021-05-17 02:07
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#4
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Latvia heywire
yeah it well it still sucks for them, they thought they won and could move on, they played really good to be fair.
2021-05-17 02:08
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Denmark Almoe
getting 16-3'd and barely winning the last 2 maps against an opponent with constant loss spikes is not impressive
2021-05-17 02:10
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Constant vs spike u fucking turned in ur comment
2021-05-17 02:25
Only thing cringe here is your statement. Anonymo wanted to do everything to get a good server but Trashpoint didn’t want to. Anonymo doesn’t have to be punished for doing nothing wrong and as NIP and Dev1ce stated they just wanted everyone to know Trashpoint servers weren’t ok. Now everyone knows that the show must go on, both teams in their own bracket and Trashpoint disband afterwards.
2021-05-17 02:11
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Albania maidz4
+1 gigachad statement here
2021-05-17 02:13
+1
2021-05-17 02:15
#33
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Denmark Almoe
+1 its ok for anonymo to get a free win and cry to valve because they are underdogs and me like underdogs, god forbid an rmr event has fair matches
2021-05-17 02:18
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France tyty1190
So the problem didn't come from NIP but flashpoint so useless to blame NIP
2021-05-17 05:58
In my opinion you cannot replay a concluded game. Its like chelsea replay 2009 vs barka or psg vs barka 2015 because ref clearly on barka side
2021-05-17 02:10
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Albania maidz4
a lot of people just want to be demonize device and nip and wont really listen, NiP management certainly made some mistakes, ANONYMO management honestly bigger mistakes with their inflammatory tweet where they basically just lied. but at the end of the day flashpoint handled situation terribly and i hope people wont hold it against players involved who really were just unlucky to be involved in this situation.
2021-05-17 02:10
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How is that did. nip offered any other sources?
2021-05-17 02:26
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Albania maidz4
i dont entirely understand what you are asking for but here is the source for the nip part twitter.com/jonasgundersen/status/139405.. and here is anonymo tweet twitter.com/AnonymoEsports/status/139398..
2021-05-17 02:29
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Nips own timeline was filled with lies that contradicted prior statements made by nip themselves. If you consider this proof that nip did nothing wrong, someone wrote gullible on the cieling.
2021-05-17 02:33
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Albania maidz4
i have multiple times that nip management was wrong to ask for rematch and i disagree with the author of this thread. the only contradiction i know of from nip is their offical statement implies that they didnt ask for a rematch and it was faceit's decision but their ceo confirmed that that isnt true
2021-05-17 02:38
"We aren’t pressuring anyone." "Our players didn't push for a rematch here - we did." WTF?!
2021-05-17 02:43
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Albania maidz4
pressuring means theyre using their larger reach as a bigger org and are trying to manipulate/bully flashpoint and anonymo into giving them what they want, which is totally different from just asking for a rematch
2021-05-17 02:44
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It isn't that hard to read between the lines. This is completely unprecedented in professional CSGO. If NiP are saying they "pushed" for a rematch, and Flashpoint ceded, you can be damn sure there was pressure.
2021-05-17 02:59
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Albania maidz4
no you cant. im done trying to use logic on hltv today so :/
2021-05-17 03:00
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Yeah, NiP's CEO calling for Flashpoint to never host an RMR again is not pressuring web.archive.org/web/20210514203241/https..
2021-05-17 05:08
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Albania maidz4
i mean that was just true
2021-05-17 05:42
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Czech Republic y0fl0w
i blame NiP but obviously most of the shitshow is based on FP/FACEIT
2021-05-17 02:10
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Latvia heywire
why blame NiP?
2021-05-17 02:11
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Albania maidz4
only thing i blame NiP for is management pushing for rematch twitter.com/jonasgundersen/status/139405..
2021-05-17 02:12
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Czech Republic y0fl0w
yeah and this is pathetic in all ends, so obviously they should be blamed
2021-05-17 02:14
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Albania maidz4
its a mistake for sure from nip management but not like holy shit totally unacceptable bad, its somewhat understandable from their perspective, but dont hold it against players
2021-05-17 02:16
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Latvia heywire
Pushing for a rematch is a must this is RMR a major, if there's proof you were playing with a loss, then it is only reasonable, i think a nip is a good org for this tbh.
2021-05-17 02:16
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Albania maidz4
nip shouldnt have had to play with the conditions but the rematch is still unfair to anonymo for a lot of reasons, there no longer is a good way to resolve the situation, NiP will be fine in lower bracket anyway
2021-05-17 02:20
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Czech Republic y0fl0w
cuz they couldn't handle it properly during the match and crying afterwards asking for a rematch?
2021-05-17 02:13
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Albania maidz4
players were not allowed to talk to staff during negotiation and didnt have proper information so the players had to make the decision on the spot which isnt even their job at all it is the org who was prevented from doing it due to rmr rules. so i dont really blame players for not making the perfect decision
2021-05-17 02:22
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Finland ThaMuse
Clearly you haven’t read the chat logs. The players are complaining about the lag still being there and FP’s response is ”get ready, we’re going live”. They didn’t have an option there
2021-05-17 05:54
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Albania maidz4
NiP management asked for rematch, players didnt, anonymo org made everything worse with their stupid tweet. not contradicting you just trying to get this info out there
2021-05-17 02:12
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Czech Republic y0fl0w
their statement is as fake as Anonymos.. the reality is somewhere inbetween and thats enough to blame fucking NiP
2021-05-17 02:15
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#37
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Albania maidz4
i dont really see any reason to doubt what they said about the decision making about it but i guess youre entitled to your opinion
2021-05-17 02:23
Read chat logs lol Anynomo playing the victim card Scared losers
2021-05-17 06:58
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Sweden SofoRion
FUCKING POLSIH CHEATERS. DQ THEM
2021-05-17 02:13
Obviously Flashpoint is to blame. Also obvious that NiP coming out with a statement saying all they want is recognition that they played under unacceptable conditions, and were prepared to play upper or lower bracket, is fake as fuck. Considering they filed a formal request to replay the match. Flashpoint acknowledged, publicly, that NiP played with packet loss. NiP got what they wanted. Now stfu and play your lower bracket match. Then shit all over Flashpoint through statements/pursue legal action and kill their org(even though it's already dead and will never host another CS tournament).
2021-05-17 02:13
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Albania maidz4
players wanted acknowledgement for conditions, management wanted rematch that wasnt players decision
2021-05-17 02:15
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Yeah, that's bullshit. Players are in on it.
2021-05-17 02:16
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#32
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Albania maidz4
any evidence? even circumstancial evidence?
2021-05-17 02:17
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"Our players didn't push for a rematch here - we did. All they want is acknowledgement that the playing conditions were unacceptable. They have been ready to play upper or lower bracket." Have you seen how much this has backfired? Do you honestly believe NiP management would be willing to completely ruin their own/players' reputations over a first round loss by filing for a rematch if the players said they had accepted the results? What kind of org would completely ruin their reputation by going against their players' wishes? They are simply trying to cover for their players after this move blew up in their faces. Their ego's got in the way and they thought they'd receive support over this, instead the opposite happened.
2021-05-17 02:24
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Albania maidz4
players were neutral on rematch idea not against it is what they were saying, also the fact that YOu believe that they WOULD lie about it to cover their players doesnt mean that their players were in on it at all
2021-05-17 02:28
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Their players could easily tell the org: Hey management, we accept the results now that the community knows what we went through, but you guys are ruining our reputations and putting a ton of strain/stress on us after the first match in what was supposed to be a new era for the team. We will only have to beat two tier 3/4 teams in order to reach top 8, giving us 900+ RMR points. Please believe in us and our ability to secure a decent result through the lower bracket and leave Anonymo alone, as they attempted to help us and reschedule immediately in the first place. Attack Flashpoint, not Anonymo. We have already publicly stated that we accept the results and are willing to play in the lower bracket, as have you. So why are we not willing to do what we've stated we were willing to do?
2021-05-17 02:38
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Albania maidz4
they probably are tbh, it takes time for these kinds of things to be processed
2021-05-17 02:44
Speculations more speculations lol If you wanna speculate that let me also speculate that anynomo are scared losers who are afraid to play the rematch and hence are playing the victim card
2021-05-17 07:01
+1 obv
2021-05-17 02:15
If you play you accept the conditions. Should every match ever need to be replayed when misfortunes happen? Of course not, that would be detrimental to competitive integrity. That said, it is embarassing that major qualifiers are hosted this poorly, faceit is not good enough it seems
2021-05-17 02:14
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Finland ThaMuse
If your options are to play or to forfeit, what would you choose?
2021-05-17 06:12
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Forfeit. Then your case is much stronger for replay.
2021-05-17 11:02
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Finland ThaMuse
Or you just lose. Not worth the risk
2021-05-17 16:17
Because they’re fake as fuck
2021-05-17 02:24
We blame them because #39 and they're complain all the damn time. Just suck it up
2021-05-17 02:28
NiP could have resisted not to play in this situation, and the match would have been postponed. It was not that hard
2021-05-17 02:41
nip pushed for this rematch they could of let it go like they did at the very end of the match praising anonymo saying they deserved the win they now go back on what they say and demand anonymo rematch and talk blatant shit about them its all nip to blame for the rematch anonymo would never be allowed to pull this stunt
2021-05-17 02:53
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