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Germany yannxbr 
Why does everyone hate ancient? Most of the time in mm it gets banned first round and if you want to practice it, queue for it.. I don’t understand the hate…
2021-05-17 11:53
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2021-05-17 11:54
first faceit match since weeks and first game ancient. dont playing faceit for weeks again now. i have no problems with ancient.
2021-05-17 11:54
Because it replaced train, which is one of the most legendary maps in csgo history
2021-05-17 11:54
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#5
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Germany yannxbr
I agree, they shouldn’t remove train but what map would u remove
2021-05-17 11:55
7 replies
Vertigo or overpass Vertigo is too small a map for competitive, same thing happens every round Overpass hasn't been updated in such a long time and needs a rework like the ones on dust2 and mirage
2021-05-17 11:56
5 replies
#12
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Germany yannxbr
But both maps are quite new to the map pool and I have seen quite some new stuff on vertigo. Overpass definitely needs some changes
2021-05-17 11:59
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#22
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Germany Xxrorikx
i would suggest -mirage but every ruski with potato pc will scream at valve for so long that they`ll put it back xd
2021-05-17 12:04
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#29
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Germany yannxbr
The casuals have to like that change….
2021-05-17 12:15
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#53
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Germany Xxrorikx
No, the pros have to, because that's how valve earn most of their money.
2021-05-17 13:27
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Idk, I think valve earns more on their playerbase tbh
2021-05-17 19:29
2021-05-17 13:11
"one of the most legendary maps" always the least played map, which nobody ever wanted to play good thing they removed it
2021-05-17 13:07
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It is one of the most legendary maps, almost every grand final has had train played and there have been many memorable moments in them. I dont think overpass has as many moments as train
2021-05-17 13:41
5 replies
it's still the one map nobody ever wants to play
2021-05-17 18:40
4 replies
It's a very popular map with some of the best teams
2021-05-17 19:28
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ALTHOUGH, I do agree that overpass has almost no moments in comparison there's the olofboost, maybe some device's holds, and what else?
2021-05-17 19:29
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olof burning defuse and nothing else overpass is literally olofpass
2021-05-17 19:29
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yea definitely not the high-octane map we also need some long, slow rotations map in the game ofc but very boring in terms of plays
2021-05-17 19:30
#4
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Finland Khroni
Bad FPS, extreme corridor design, random CTD's, heavily CT sided if they actually know what they are doing
2021-05-17 11:55
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#8
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Germany yannxbr
Will probably get fixed in the near future
2021-05-17 11:56
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#33
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Finland Khroni
Hopefully, although its going to need to be a lot of timing based changes more than anything I feel, rotates are far too long for CT's post-plant and T's midround rn
2021-05-17 12:23
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#36
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Germany yannxbr
Yeah rotates are really far, and maybe some things have to be changed but is any map at its point of release? No map is perfect and just wait until valve has some data and responses.
2021-05-17 12:26
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#42
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Finland Khroni
I do remember Vertigo and it is much better now than before, and I do believe that Valve could make Ancient equally as competitively viable, but I do worry that there is too much that needs fixing before it is played in officials and Valve have already shown themselves to be pretty out of touch with the CS community as a whole for quite a while now
2021-05-17 13:00
#10
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Sweden axelious
Pretty much +1. A-site is a mess aswell. I like to play the map though, but there're alot of things to improve
2021-05-17 11:57
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#14
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Germany yannxbr
The corridor from ct spawn to a site is a real mess, should be removed
2021-05-17 12:00
5 replies
#23
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Sweden axelious
You mean the temple or the old corridor? I don't really care what is removed, but there are too many ways in to the A site and the site it self is too open. The box on A should atleast be in the middle of the site so that you have something to hide around when planting.
2021-05-17 12:05
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#25
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Germany yannxbr
The new one when they put in the active duty map pool, like the small hallway, where you can watch the mid entry and the a long entry
2021-05-17 12:06
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#26
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Sweden axelious
Yea exactly. But it's just one too many entrances!
2021-05-17 12:07
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#28
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Germany yannxbr
+1
2021-05-17 12:09
new temple is needed to make the site playable for ct's rofl you couldn't retake the site without it at all
2021-05-17 18:42
#44
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China Grenadr
Never had a ctd from ancient My FPS dropped by around 70 on avg but I usually get around 350+ (so its a fair complaint) Most new maps will be heavy CT sided until set smokes are learned
2021-05-17 13:07
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#52
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Finland Khroni
Yea idk what is causing those CTD's I had several trying to do those Guardian missions for the Operation and 2 trying to play it on Scrimmage but I never get it vs bots
2021-05-17 13:24
I don't even have the FPS issues that others have. Yes, it's not 500 FPS, but I easily get 270-370 FPS on Ancient, and it's quite decent.
2021-05-17 11:56
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The question is, do you have package loss? :D
2021-05-17 11:59
bcs its a garbage map, and idc about that argument of uhhh its gonna get better when pros play it this and that you could set that up way better plus they shouldna removed train.
2021-05-17 11:56
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#15
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Germany yannxbr
What would you remove
2021-05-17 12:00
2 replies
d2 or mirage?
2021-05-17 12:01
1 reply
#18
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Germany yannxbr
D2 is counterstrike, valve wouldn’t kill their own game and mirage is really popular. I’d change mirage if I could but i don’t think they can remove it
2021-05-17 12:02
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Aleksib | 
Europe Pts
Why would they not remove the least played map? I mean i would be happier if they removed shitferno or mirage cause these are garbage maps But i fully understand the reasoning behind removing train
2021-05-17 12:03
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#20
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Germany yannxbr
+1
2021-05-17 12:04
tbh i havent seen so much hate towards Ancient compared to Vertigo
2021-05-17 11:58
#17
Aleksib | 
Europe Pts
Dunno people are just stupid and would rather play shitferno and mirage only
2021-05-17 12:02
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#24
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Germany yannxbr
Inferno is so stale and boring. I’ve come past so stupid b defenders who can’t get banana control
2021-05-17 12:05
#21
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Nepal askyee
Ancient is good map, it need some changes but still its quite as a first version of that map Just look at first version of overpass and check how much valve changed it cuz ovp at the start was unplayable even more
2021-05-17 12:04
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#27
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Germany yannxbr
I like it too, and I’m playing b but on b you can’t really hold the site with good crossfires. Awps are basically unusable there in my experience
2021-05-17 12:08
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#57
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Nepal askyee
yeah i play b too and yeah awps are useless but overall it's nice bs to hold
2021-05-17 16:01
Because right now the map is total garbage. Even with all the changes, it still feels like you are playing scrimmage / casual mode instead of competitive, no matter you play in faceit or mm.
2021-05-17 12:18
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#32
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Germany yannxbr
With some time you will see those nades you will see these a splits or the aggressive b crunch (cts push maybe on eco)
2021-05-17 12:22
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It feels casual because of the map layout, not executions.
2021-05-17 12:49
0/8 it's a fun map, ever heard of fun maps? it's like he_tennis
2021-05-17 12:24
#35
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Germany fanok
Not many people want to play new maps, even if technically it's not new, not everyone played it in the Operation, also there are very many cubby spots so I personally don't think it's that great of a map.
2021-05-17 12:25
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#38
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Germany yannxbr
A change was coming though, and tbh I didn’t play ancient even in the operation. I was excited to see my perma ban getting removed. Also some cubbys are wallbangable (b site) and even maybe these other spots are bangable with an awp
2021-05-17 12:30
I hate it because it's a shit-map that only made it into the map-pool because it's Valves own map. If it wasn't Valves map, it wouldn't have made it in.
2021-05-17 12:28
4 replies
did you play a few games on it at least
2021-05-17 13:14
3 replies
Only tried it against bots.
2021-05-17 13:20
2 replies
0 input into the discussion then
2021-05-17 18:45
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What makes you think that?
2021-05-17 19:02
Dark , Bad colors , Bad graphics , Low Fps as fuck , Heavily ct sided if they play correct . Isnt enough ?!
2021-05-17 12:58
if you have bad fps in Ancient just change you calculator to normal PC and stop cry
2021-05-17 13:00
#43
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Austria eights
Me and my buddies started picking Ancient whenever possible and turns out I quite like playing on it. Not that the map itself is outstanding it's rather the fact that it's something fresh and new. I like
2021-05-17 13:04
#46
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Palestine 3BooD
Train was my favourite map but Ancient is great too,I wish they removed Dust2 it's bullshit
2021-05-17 13:09
1 reply
+1 or do a mirage overhaul
2021-05-17 13:12
Ancient is pretty good, i'm just waiting for the incoming multiple changes
2021-05-17 13:13
Ancient is my favorite map, right after Vertigo
2021-05-17 13:44
#56
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United States GeekfI
Its a good map in my opinion / has a lot of potential but I wish they would fix the timings for who gets to mid first because by the time I get to T Mid, CTS are already pushed up to bottom mid and waiting for me to turn the corner
2021-05-17 15:16
#60
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Poland deepayy
ancient the best map in the poll atm :/
2021-05-17 18:42
It's pretty fun tbh Just people don't understand it yet Knowing util is so OP
2021-05-17 19:32
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