Thread has been deleted
Last comment
nip - anonymo issue
 | 
France DELUSIONAL_VITA_FAN 
i think they need to rematch in BO3 but anonymo will started 1 map ahead. if anonymo win map 1 : anonymo win match if nip win map 1 : we go to decider
2021-05-17 12:35
Topics are hidden when running Sport mode.
anonymo would still lose lol
2021-05-17 12:36
19 replies
if anonymo loose this then nip win will be deserved
2021-05-17 12:41
18 replies
people learn loose != lose. I see it too often.
2021-05-17 12:44
5 replies
sorry my english isn't rlly good
2021-05-17 12:44
2 replies
#49
 | 
Brazil thim0
You dont need to apologize. English is not your first language.
2021-05-17 15:22
No worries just saying. Nothing wrong about making mistakes but i think its cool to always know more
2021-05-17 15:27
#51
 | 
Sweden frozze90
you are sittin a fuckin csgo forum where 90% are either kids or not english as first language, and you except some fuckin grammar competition ? geez mate, get a fuckin life. Your life is even too shit for this forum....
2021-05-17 15:24
1 reply
#54 lmao tbf u r looking like the one who should get some life... U r malding over someone on internet that kindly corrected someone esle for making mistake. From my point it was more like a fun notice rather than raging over it. Whats wrong about it? I always appreciate when someone does it to me. I rather know more than not. Get some life dude
2021-05-17 15:31
#36
 | 
United Kingdom OllieUK
I feel so bad for Anonymo. NiP wouldve refused to play if they had won the series and Anonymo had problems. Anonymo tried to play of different serves ect to help NiP but Flashpoint said no. The game was played out and that should be the result. If Anonymo gets rolled by NiP now its going to ruin their mental
2021-05-17 13:11
11 replies
#37
 | 
Nigeria coolathan
Feel bad for the players but the org tried to get NIP dq'd for tech issues at 1-1 lmao, shady ass org maybe karma exists
2021-05-17 13:14
8 replies
#38
 | 
United Kingdom OllieUK
Its a tough situation. Flashpoint server was in the end the problem which makes it more difficult but the Anonymo players tried to find a solution and in the end they won. Feels bad but they won shouldnt be replayed. If they win now would be funny af tho. Im routing for Anonymo now purely because of how they got fucked
2021-05-17 13:17
7 replies
#53
 | 
Sweden frozze90
They tried to find a solution, but did not. Its still not NiP's fault flashpoint servers blows, even tho anonymo tried to solve it...
2021-05-17 15:26
6 replies
#57
 | 
United Kingdom OllieUK
It definitely did not help that Device was abusing the admins but for some reason thats being over looked. Honestly I just feel so bad for Anonymo beating NiP once was hard enough now they have to do it twice for the same result.
2021-05-17 15:29
5 replies
#64
 | 
Sweden kresso
Yeah blame Flashpoint for that, not NiP. Its unfair win for anonymo, unfair loss for NiP so rematch is the only way to solve it
2021-05-17 15:40
4 replies
#65
 | 
United Kingdom OllieUK
Blame flashpoint for Device abusing admins? lmao. Yes flashpoint made a mistake but NiP should have refused to play until the issue was solved. They agreed to play on which yeh it sucks but still the match was played so thats that
2021-05-17 15:42
3 replies
#77
 | 
Sweden kresso
Well they had no other option. Either play or get disqualified :/
2021-05-17 18:21
2 replies
#78
 | 
United Kingdom OllieUK
I dont know but you cannot deny this is so shitty for anonymo
2021-05-17 18:23
1 reply
#79
 | 
Sweden kresso
Yes all in fault of Trashpoint not cancelling the game and solve the issue at the time. And its a major RMR tournament aswell so it's even more shitty for the teams involved
2021-05-17 18:27
idk why everyone says NIP would refuse if it was switched, no way of knowing what would happen
2021-05-17 15:27
1 reply
#58
 | 
United Kingdom OllieUK
Well the way device handled things was disgusting cant imagine he wouldve been sympathetic the other way around. I saw a HLTV thread with the chat logs and he was abusing the admin calling them "fucking morons" so honestly surprised that Device hasnt been handed a penalty as well
2021-05-17 15:30
#2
 | 
Denmark v1p3rdk
Doesn't make sense
2021-05-17 12:36
6 replies
why ? anonymo will never accept a rematch from 0-0
2021-05-17 12:41
5 replies
#16
 | 
Denmark v1p3rdk
It was 1-1 before the issue appeared. It, therefore, doesn't make sense, if the match was to be replayed.
2021-05-17 12:42
4 replies
?? the issue was during the whole BO3 (even on nip 16-3 stomp)
2021-05-17 12:43
3 replies
i think he meant it was 1-1 on first map overpass
2021-05-17 12:50
2 replies
nice name i only have 2 houses and some km land
2021-05-17 13:22
1 reply
i only have some m land
2021-05-17 15:43
#3
 | 
United Kingdom Theodoooore
Any solution at this point will be unfair to one or both teams, because Flashpoint didn't postpone the match
2021-05-17 12:37
3 replies
+1
2021-05-17 12:40
+1 a rematch now is just trying to make 2 wrongs a right, that's not how it works.
2021-05-17 15:44
What is Flashpoint? I only know Trashpoint. Rush. Frag. Repeat.
2021-05-17 15:57
#4
 | 
Norway Norvegiya2k
i think no rematch
2021-05-17 12:37
3 replies
say that to nip and flashpoint
2021-05-17 12:42
2 replies
ok i'll
2021-05-17 13:22
1 reply
Perfect thx for solving problems
2021-05-17 15:23
Why??
2021-05-17 12:37
1 reply
bcause anonymo won't accept rematch from 0-0
2021-05-17 12:42
flashpoint LMAO force nip to play with lags and refuse to postpone and then after finished match require a rematch what a joke. I hope they wont host cs events anymore
2021-05-17 12:38
11 replies
yeah that's all flashpoint fault, but i offer an issue bcause anonymo won't play a rematch to 0-0
2021-05-17 12:40
9 replies
Why should Anonymo have an advantage? Full replay or last map.
2021-05-17 12:42
8 replies
maybe because they already "won" the match ?
2021-05-17 12:43
7 replies
After NIP was forced to play with lag or forfeit. If they were ok with postponement, how is this different? They just got the best scrim of the teams career.
2021-05-17 12:50
6 replies
#43
Dosia | 
Poland iOFF
and now anonymo is forced to replay? kkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-05-17 13:23
5 replies
They knew NIP had issues, it was highlighted right at the very start of the game. Just look at it as a scrim. If snax is actually upset about this and thinks he deserves that unfair win, he has really fallen far from the person he ones was.
2021-05-17 14:13
4 replies
#52
Dosia | 
Poland iOFF
so 1.anonymo offer change server,postpone 2.nip cry after when they can just dont play and be against flashpoint and i think valve will react whatever 3.trashpoint is trashpoint in summary anonymo get + on it even if they rematch and they lose in summary nip will be most hated org rn if rematch happen
2021-05-17 15:25
3 replies
On 1, both NIP and Anonymo proposed and accepted these alternatives. Flashpoint puts it on NIP players (no coaches allowed in RMR) to play or forfeit. Off they will pick the only way they can have at least a chance to win. 2. NIP didn’t cry after, they highlighted the issue at 1-1 in map 1 and it never went away. Why should they accept a loss in a game they were forced to play with a disadvantage proved to be on server side? 3. NIP will only get hate from low IQ ppl that can’t make sense of simple facts. The only part at fault here is Flashpoint
2021-05-17 15:39
2 replies
#71
Dosia | 
Poland iOFF
yeah but if they rematch ano will take damage if they dont nip take "damage" cause i think they still win vs hyenas but nvm so there is no winner for me 1 site will lose or ano win and they show nip sucksssss
2021-05-17 15:50
1 reply
Yeah both teams got fucked by Flashpoint. There is no perfect solution now. The perfect one was postpone the game. Now both a replay and a Anonymo win is unfair to the other side.
2021-05-17 15:55
Wasnt forced NiP couldnt speak up for themselves like babies
2021-05-17 13:22
That would be fair
2021-05-17 12:38
#15
 | 
Poland Roxin
right now there is no right decision which would satisfy both sides. Flashpoint started it, now they need to finish it.
2021-05-17 12:42
3 replies
and how do u want to finish it
2021-05-17 12:44
2 replies
#24
 | 
Poland Roxin
as i said, flashpoint fucked up so they have to either rematch a match or give anonymo a win. If i were them i would not rematch tbh
2021-05-17 12:47
compensation for NiP, either monetary or idk. But punishing Anonymo like this isn't cool. Imagine you're a tier 2 / 3 team, prepare for the biggest match you have coming in a long while, you actually win the match after having a fuck ton of tech timeouts and then all of a sudden your win gets taken away and you need to play the game again, with now the top team knowing exactly how you play. All because the admins are incapable of doing their job properly.
2021-05-17 15:46
NiP org is so damn unprofessional, literally acted as this fucking bo3 is their last chance in the universe to achieve something. Thats not how a solid legendary org should act, crying about a rematch. They had heaton drama, watching your legends run away from org, blaming you in fraud, and now they do this. Im pretty sure its not what nip fans expected from them. Blame FP, its deserved, but dont screw up the underdog team, who really need this chance and innocent in the issues you had with FP
2021-05-17 12:46
7 replies
How has NIP done anything wrong here? Flashpoint confirmed the issue was server side and only effected NIP. Flashpoint confirmed they refused a postponement or server change even though both teams were ok with that. All the blame is on flashpoint, NIP basically got the choice to play with laggs or forfeit the game.
2021-05-17 12:48
#35
 | 
Croatia Fiki207
Delusional s0mple fan. I agree that anonymo should get the win, but if you were in NIP's position you would also try to get a replay of the match. All blame goes to the FP because of their unprofessionalism.
2021-05-17 13:09
1 reply
#45
 | 
Croatia krofnica86
-1
2021-05-17 15:16
im biased but the point that nip should just accept it is dumb since why cant people argue anonymo should just forfeit the match if they dont want to replay the bo3 after all like you said this isnt the last chance in the universe to achieve something
2021-05-17 15:39
2 replies
FP should offer a solution or compromise to NIP, but this should not touch Anonymo because Anonymo did not break any rules, servers etc and the game already happened, "hidden cards" are exposed and you shouldt deal with unfair situation with another unfair situation, nip should act and not just watch how anonymo is sacrificialy raped to please nip and its fans. If it happens, it would make more reputational damage to esports, cs and orgs then it would solve problems. FP know they did fuck up in every critical situation in this issue (refusing to reschedule in game, having connection problems on their side) so they did try to minimise their reputational damage sacrificing a smaller org, hoping that drama will fade away aftrr time. Imo, NiP should demand a better solution from FP, thats it. It's FP's pain in butt to find other solutions, but NiP was loud about server problems and now quiet about FP fucking up Anonymo
2021-05-17 16:35
1 reply
both teams have now shown their tactics and i dont see how its unfair to have a rematch its very annoying for anonymo but they arent being "sacrificed"
2021-05-17 16:52
NiP : "We lost the series to a determined opponent who played a great game, and we accept this" Also NiP : REEEEEEEEEEMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTCHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
2021-05-17 15:49
I like this solution. Something like finals from upper and lower bracket, just it will be BO3.
2021-05-17 12:46
+1 imo best way
2021-05-17 12:49
While this is actually the most valid and reasonable thing to do, I honestly still think that 40% packet loss is just NiP bullshitting in our faces. Let's be honest, everyone at some point had packet losses during CS:GO matches whether on MM or in FaceIt matches, and we all know that it's almost impossible to play with packet loss at 10%, it's really difficult with packet loss at 5%, and they want us to believe that they had 40% packet loss throughout 2 first maps. That's bullshit. Maybe their packet loss spiked to 40%, but it wasn't at this level whole time, they had probably like 5-6% which spiked to 40% every now and then, which obviously affected their performance, but tbh with the way they were playing these moments when packet loss reached 40% were really rare. I'm very sorry for device that his debut for new team was spoiled this way, and I actually feel like this match was unfair, but it was Flashpoint's decision to continue playing, according to official statements Anonymo was open to any solutions during the pause when the score was 1-1 in rounds on Overpass - 1st map (they were willing change servers to any other than Swedish because on Swedish servers Anonymo had high pings, or to reschedule the match). Forcing them to play rematch is like blaming them not only for NiP not having spare fiber connection (I mean, when you are an e-sports organization in times of online tournaments and you have only 1 internet provider then any connection/internet issues are on you), but also for Flashpoint's poor behaviour which led to this whole situation. Unfortunately since NiP is one of the biggest esports organization there will be a rematch, but tbh that means that as long as you're big enough you are treated in a special way, and that shouldn't be accepted by the community.
2021-05-17 12:56
4 replies
#31
 | 
Finland Jomppeboi
It was already confirmed from the server logs they actually had 30-40% packet loss so there goes your point in the first sentence
2021-05-17 13:00
3 replies
As I said, and you can call me dumb or ignorant, I won't believe that they had constant or frequent 40% loss, they pretty much wouldn't be able to move, these could be just occasional spikes to 40%, but not constant/frequent 40% loss.
2021-05-17 13:06
2 replies
#33
 | 
Finland Jomppeboi
Also you said: "when you are an e-sports organization in times of online tournaments and you have only 1 internet provider then any connection/internet issues are on you" The connection issues were on flashpoint's end, so no matter how many fucking internet providers nip would have had, it wouldnt have fixed the issue.
2021-05-17 13:07
1 reply
According to flashpoint statement issues on their end led to "partially blocked traffic from the NiP connection/ISP" ISP - internet service provider If they'd have fiber from another internet provider there could've been no issue.
2021-05-17 13:19
imagine nip losing, it would just ruin their whole org so hard ^^ but its still stupid. to finish game with 40% loss and 1day later cry for rematch. like do u eat at the resteraunt when u already puke at home and thne blame the food and ask for refund`??
2021-05-17 13:09
3 replies
They tried get that during game but if you read nip statement Flashpoint wouldnt reshedule and anonymo even talked to Flashpoint bout getting nip to forfeit.. I think thats kinda Dick move especially since after its Been confirmed its flashpoints fault No?
2021-05-17 15:20
1 reply
where forcing to forfeit by anonymo? from NiP excuses which got changed 4 times? KEKW
2021-05-17 15:45
Wrong analogy. It was more like the food was shit and they wanted to send it back but the waiter forced them to eat the food anyway citing that the fault lies with their tastebuds, not with the food. Later when they were home they called the management and the management acknowledged that the problem lied with them and that the food was in fact shit
2021-05-17 15:54
Actually sounds like a good idea also gives em a slight advantage
2021-05-17 15:18
god I wish the CS scene would just implode already but no, every player, caster, owner, analyst, org, and random youtuber needs to ruin their reputation first.
2021-05-17 15:19
3 replies
wtf. What's wrong with you? is there something particular you're upset about?
2021-05-17 15:29
2 replies
I pooped my pants :/
2021-05-17 15:34
1 reply
That shit is hard man. Take care boyo.Hope it gets better for you. Or maybe listen to daddy chad tonight.It'll get better.
2021-05-17 15:35
Login or register to add your comment to the discussion.