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I don’t get NIP hate
flameZ | 
United States Valerence 
nip players/nip have legit no fault in this they followed the rules and didn’t shit talk anyone except the server hosts so I’m confused why nip is being hassled on for flashpoint’s decision
2021-05-18 03:03
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Because hltv users for some reason don’t wanna do due diligence and look up the objective facts
2021-05-18 03:04
23 replies
Ah yes. Another case of HLTV being HLTV. thx u
2021-05-18 03:08
20 replies
youtube.com/watch?v=7Iyg-odznLU&t=2s&ab_.. noone was flaming the players, but there is good reason to flame the org watch the video, ik but is actual good video
2021-05-18 06:31
19 replies
Lol RL the conspiracy theorist Apparently RL videos are the most credible sources of information.
2021-05-18 07:28
uhhh LOL????? ok check this image seriously. i.imgur.com/7rVRuln.png imgur of R.Lewis convo with me ..... I can't grasp how an esports journalist can defend a result that isn't won on equal playing fields. Literally, you're an esports journalist, you should be the pinnacle of match competitiveness being EQUAL between all teams and if ONE side OR the other can prove that ONLY they got handicapped by the TO, then surely the decision to replay is the ONLY decision that should exist.
2021-05-18 07:46
10 replies
#91
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Denmark MeToxi
Exactly! I think this aspect is being downplayed WAY to much. Yes, its unfair for Anonymo because they did nothing wrong, but do you know what anonymo didn't do either? They did NOT win an equal match! They did NOT win a fair matchup! Its like taking a child in a wheelchair and making him fight the biggest bully and calling it a fair boxing match!
2021-05-18 08:53
9 replies
#121
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Poland Karixen
there is never such a thing as equal match online, every time there will be something and how did they manage to win 16-3 and go to overtime, scoring insane hs? and yes anonymo did upset nip which would be 1/20 games and most likely they will not be able to win once again thats why its robbery. If Anonymo would lose with lags, no one would care.
2021-05-18 09:35
8 replies
A lot of presumptions, but no actual arguments. "there is never such a thing as equal match online" lmao
2021-05-18 10:27
#145
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Denmark MeToxi
Equal in the sense of equal opportunity to perform. In almost every match there is equal opportunity to perform. This is the first match at this level of competition in csgo memory where there haven't been equal opportunity to perform because of a TO.
2021-05-18 10:39
6 replies
He is not wrong tho that if this would be the other way around, no one would give a flying fuck and Anonymo would have to suck it up. Only reason this is a thing is because it is a huge org like NIP
2021-05-18 13:59
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#156
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Denmark Yikesslol
But that is what yall want right? You want it not to be replayed, you want NIP to take the loss regardless of the sitation. Maybe it wouldn't get replayed if it was the other way around, but no one is supporting that, besides the fans of anonymo.
2021-05-18 14:07
4 replies
I dont care if its replayed or not. I prefer it wouldnt but hey who cares. All I am saying is that the only reason it is replayed is because NIP is a big org with alot of influence. If anonymo requested a rematch Trashpoint would just laugh in their faces and move on
2021-05-18 14:10
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#159
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Denmark Yikesslol
Well as i said, i don't supprt that. I'm not a fan of any of those teams, but simply just want fairplay for cs and esports as a whole. People have opinions and i respect people not wanting it to be replayed, but i personally think that's the best option out of 2 bad options.
2021-05-18 14:14
2 replies
I respect your opinion ofcourse. But yes me personally would prefer it not to be replayed. Only way this could have been resolved with everyone happy is if they would have postponed the match from the start. I guess no matter what flashpoint or the teams do now people will get mad either way xd
2021-05-18 14:14
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#161
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Denmark Yikesslol
+1
2021-05-18 14:15
A person who lives on creating and fueling controversy make a speculative video only intended to fuel controversy. Yeah that is such a great proof. You just confirmed the post you replied to.
2021-05-18 08:53
5 replies
#114
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Sweden ezwuo
"You just confirmed the post you replied to." Says the guy with a made up narrative about someone who's just giving his opinion.
2021-05-18 09:22
4 replies
Wait, you think it’s a controversial view that RL is someone that fuels confrontation and conflict? All of his speculation in the video is just to fuel the hate, with no proof at all. You think this is done to help anything?
2021-05-18 09:24
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#120
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Sweden ezwuo
I don't think he likes getting backlash. He gets embroiled in controversy alot but not by choice.
2021-05-18 09:39
1 reply
+1 he reports shit people get mad about. Doesnt make the reporting any less accurate tho
2021-05-18 14:11
say what you will but RL is a credible journalist and did more for esports than you or me or anyone on this shitty website ever will. Show some respect for the people that brought cs where it is today
2021-05-18 14:01
richard lewis is literally the worst faggot in the scene a disgrace to call him anything that is related to competence
2021-05-18 19:33
agree its easy to see neither teams are to blame for this, unfortunate for anonymo to replay a map, also unfortunate for NIP to play 3 maps with lag
2021-05-18 08:46
#188
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Denmark Slathaf
+1
2021-05-18 18:42
#2
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Brazil MlNE
NIP are more victims than Anonymo
2021-05-18 03:06
9 replies
well to be honest to some degree, but it’s fair to say that both teams have been wronged by trashpoint legit roblox leagues are better than this LUL
2021-05-18 03:09
NIP would be victim if there was no option to replay last map and result was closed. Anonymo is victim because they have to play that map again, if they lose it will be super bad for them.
2021-05-18 03:11
7 replies
the problem is I dont see how its a punishment for anonymo. Its an opportunity to show they dont need a disabled enemy to win. Just yesterday they lost to fucking AGO
2021-05-18 03:12
5 replies
Matchfixing in tier 5 leagues, nothing new. And NiP still could win a map so its not like they couldnt play at all.
2021-05-18 03:14
welcome to the PL scene bro)) we can lose to everyone and won vs everyone
2021-05-18 05:38
I don't think they can win it XD, they barely won in OT with opposite team having loss, but hey a win is a win and they are not at fault here, flashpoint is. So i still think its unfair for them. If they still manage to win somehow in the rematch, it'll be a disaster for NiP. Can't imagine the laugh threads XD
2021-05-18 07:48
1 reply
That's the thing, a win is NOT a win in this case, because the opponent team was a disadvantage. Anonymo themselves should not be happy about such victory if they care about the spirit of competition.
2021-05-18 09:36
Opportunity? But you take away a win from them. Nip trashed them on ovp while having bad Packet loss. On the next maps they have the same "problems" and lose. The only ones at fault are fn trashpoint. But how often do games get replayed? Olofpass (which was eventually forfeited) and what other game? This is a mess but taking away anonymos win away would create an even bigger mess.
2021-05-18 08:17
#13
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Brazil MlNE
yes but they won over a team with a huge loss, which makes it invalid. They should play it again with both teams without lag and blame only flashpoint for all the mess
2021-05-18 03:13
#4
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Canada Herodionus
Faceit rule book literally says to play out the game then file complaints or bring up issues after the fact, that’s exactly what NiP did and now they’re the baddies? Anonymo made it worse when Faceit and NiP were trying to sort it out by pressuring faceit to start the match again
2021-05-18 03:08
20 replies
+1
2021-05-18 06:23
+1
2021-05-18 07:43
so how exactly did anonymo made it worse? they offered to play on an other server or reschedule the game.
2021-05-18 08:19
15 replies
I would say they made it worse with their vague statement with unproven speculation about pressure from NIP and poor wording on who refused a Postponement. Both teams are victims to Flashpoints incompetence though.
2021-05-18 08:55
13 replies
+1
2021-05-18 09:11
+1 the problem now is, how do you solve this mess? In the end, it fucks over one of the teams, but which one will it fuck over less?
2021-05-18 09:15
#124
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Indonesia lumayan
yea, but no matter what, snax tweet was a banger!
2021-05-18 09:38
10 replies
I think it was a disgrace tbh. He knew NIP played all game with issues, why act like they won a fair game? Sure the blame is on Flashpoint. But both players and org on Anonymo is really doing all they can to fuel hate.
2021-05-18 09:50
9 replies
#127
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Indonesia lumayan
dude, I didnt mean to discuss about how the tweet was a disgrace, and take a neutral stance for now. but that tweet was just so funny for me XD.
2021-05-18 09:52
8 replies
I can see the humor of it indeed, just not really the time and the place considering they just won vs an opponent they knew had issues. Don’t throw gasoline on the fire.
2021-05-18 10:11
7 replies
#132
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Indonesia lumayan
yea, but if he post it after winning, he will look cocky if he post after losing the rematch, he will look butthurt I guesst there is just no right time to post it? XD
2021-05-18 10:13
6 replies
No, this is an unwinnable situation for both teams. They got fucked by Flashpoint.
2021-05-18 10:17
5 replies
#136
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Indonesia lumayan
yep, totally ahaha, but I'm getting really excited to see anonymo win on dramatic comeback, dont u think so?
2021-05-18 10:19
4 replies
It will be a very intense game for sure. May the best team win
2021-05-18 10:20
3 replies
#138
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Indonesia lumayan
why u have no flair man
2021-05-18 10:20
2 replies
I like to keep flair and flag out since it allows for easier and better conversations when there are no free attacks/comebacks based on flag/flair.
2021-05-18 10:28
1 reply
#142
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Indonesia lumayan
I wont attack u tho, but Im curious about ur country if u may tell me :D
2021-05-18 10:31
That's where you are wrong. Anonymo actually never offered to postpone the match. Only the players did, but the guy from the org (which is what matters) repeatedly reminded the flashpoint of the existing rules and never mentioned a rescheduling. Which is in his right of course, but it's the literal opposite of offering a rematch. The fact that in their statement they claimed to have offered a rematch makes them even more scummy
2021-05-18 14:26
+1
2021-05-18 15:07
+1
2021-05-19 15:23
#5
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Indonesia lukerey
Ofc they didnt shit talk to anyone. Who are they? They loss a match should just keep their mouth shut after release a statement about their shitty internet. Flashpoint is an ass, but NiP is no different.
2021-05-18 03:09
4 replies
ppl r making it seem like nip are the bad guys in this situation and they deserve to rot
2021-05-18 03:11
1 reply
#10
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Indonesia lukerey
Yeah i agreed about that. The hate is too much. xD
2021-05-18 03:12
#16
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Sweden naztyy
NiP internet was fine...
2021-05-18 03:14
lukerey = proof of someone who doesnt care to read the facts just blindly hops on the hate-wagon CHOO CHOO!
2021-05-18 05:26
Fuck crying NIP shits. I hope they will lose tomorrow to get laughed at for years to come.
2021-05-18 03:09
24 replies
this is an example of what I’m talking about I don’t think NIP as a whole have a wrong in trying to appeal for a rematch. they were wronged as well as anonymo (not saying that anonymo didn’t deserve the win)
2021-05-18 03:13
22 replies
I dont believe flashpoint statement that it was by their mistake that NiP had bad connection. And if it was as bad as they say, they could just forfeit and ask for rematch.
2021-05-18 03:20
16 replies
Yes I don't believe facts, I only believe the bs conspiracy that I have cooked up in Brain Just logout 🤡
2021-05-18 06:07
10 replies
u don't fully know the facts either tho - none of us tho
2021-05-18 08:29
9 replies
Everything I say is completely based off of the information that is public, and that's what people should do Wild speculations and assumptions only make things worse If more new Information comes out it will change my view point. I don't like speaking out of my ass and making assumptions, the Information that's public shows that it's neither nip not anymomo fault
2021-05-18 08:41
8 replies
what the two organizations are saying isn't necessarily facts either tho do you believe everything your PM says, too?
2021-05-18 08:52
7 replies
Did you understand what I was saying? Making speculations and assumptions that are not verifiable by any source or information that is public literally archives nothing, it's conspiracy theory at that point. The information that's public indicates that nip are not in wrong and that's what I'll say.
2021-05-18 09:01
5 replies
sure, I don't believe that NiP are in the wrong when it comes to the tech issues and what caused them but you have to look at the broader picture, which is the business aspect. I honestly don't think that we would've seen a such escalation had the roles been reversed. NiP is one of the biggest orgs in esports, and flashpoint know they can't withstand a PR attack from them NiP have completely taken over - flashpoint even stated in a now edited tweet, that NiP were the ones offering the different options for anonymo considering the format of the eventual rematch - why aren't flashpoint the ones doing that? I think it all looks sus af - not with the tech issues, but with how it's been handled afterwards
2021-05-18 09:10
4 replies
Speculations and assumptions that's all this is Similarly one can speculate that anynomo were forcing faceit to give nip Forfeit defeat cause of delay(there are SC of conversations), similarly one can speculate that anynomo were purposely playing the victim card and gas lighting the community by making wild and. Unverifiable accusations in their official tweet. Every thing is possible with "ifs". This whole pressure thing is just a speculation, nip could very well have just submitted an official request but anynomo tweeting their "we are under the impression that nip are pressuring..." has skewed everyone opinions. All just speculations
2021-05-18 09:16
2 replies
exactly. hence it doesn't make any sense for you to call people out for taking different stands on the matter
2021-05-18 09:19
1 reply
No I'm only calling people out for things that are against the 100% factual evidence I'm calling people out who are saying 1.there was no packet loss on 3rd map 2.nip are free rolling 3.saying it was nip connection problem while it has proven that's not the case
2021-05-18 09:22
The rematch was going to happen anyway but NIP made them an offer to choose if they want to play the whole bo3 again or just the last map. That's a pretty kind offer from NIPs side, they could force them to play the entire bo3 again, but instead they let Anonymo decide what fits them better.
2021-05-18 09:21
Did you understand what I was saying? Making speculations and assumptions that are not verifiable by any source or information that is public literally archives nothing, it's conspiracy theory at that point. The information that's public indicates that nip are not in wrong and that's what I'll say. It's entirely possible that nip are lying but it's also similarly possible that anynomo are lying and playing victim here. None of those claims can be verified, just conspiracy theories
2021-05-18 09:03
Because it fits your agenda to not believe that? NIP players (no coach or managers in RMR) were given the options to play or forfeit. Of course they will pick the only way they have a chance to win. Anonymo knew NIP had issues all game long, and still act like they won a fair game and even made fun of the NIP issues after the game. No respect for Snax left.
2021-05-18 08:59
4 replies
#98
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Australia badgman
+1 million
2021-05-18 09:02
Anynomo actual rats None of the players ever acknowledged for once that thier victory was underserved and they acknowledge the unfairness delt to nip players. They were all acting chill until nip players started complaining
2021-05-18 09:05
I hope they lose today so I can laught at them.
2021-05-18 09:06
1 reply
They might, and if so it is a fair result. That is all the team is asking for, a fair game.
2021-05-18 09:09
you are missing the point again then... NIP is crying on social media like children but they are a pro organization. both flashpoint and NIP could have acted more professionally... and valve for that matter
2021-05-18 15:38
4 replies
Didn’t anonymo act childish too? I’ve seen a bunch of ppl say that they started memeing on nip
2021-05-18 21:34
3 replies
if that is the case they both need to examine their use of social media -- i just heard about the vodka comment from anonymo but that is it --- i think esports and cs have come along way and would love to see it continue to elevate professionally
2021-05-19 15:12
2 replies
P sure most of them were joking about the packet loss, from what I’ve heard
2021-05-19 15:17
1 reply
if it was a joke why force a rematch? seems childish but at the end of the day some of these guys are still teenagers
2021-05-20 15:10
i break your legs and dare you to race me if you say its unfair i will call you a crying bitch sounds fair right?
2021-05-18 14:00
nip is disgsuting ewwwwwwwwwwww
2021-05-18 03:13
7 replies
0/8
2021-05-18 03:16
6 replies
0/8 for u.People hate NIP every day :)
2021-05-18 10:35
5 replies
#168
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Nepal askyee
only mad kids from poland hate nip
2021-05-18 15:12
4 replies
Go back to crying after ur team lost.Not only Poles hate NIP.I really liked NIP but it changed.
2021-05-18 18:23
3 replies
#182
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Nepal askyee
im not even cheering for nip NiP isnt to blame here, they did everything right according to rules, they were forced to finish that game and only after it ended they were able to write a complain or sth more. On the other hand you had anonymo that were pressuring fp to give nip disqualification even tho nip / fp were doing everything they could to fix the issue Hard truth yeah? Ano isnt poor victims of that drama
2021-05-18 18:26
2 replies
I know there is no really NIP to blame.But i don't respect decision of pushing this into rematch.Just check the talk between Sówek and u have ur pressure from Ano xd.Hard to Read Mate?
2021-05-18 18:36
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#187
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Nepal askyee
i read it, other than that they were doing some childish meme on twitter, like cmon, they are playin a fucking valve event and yet, they dont know shit to act properly in that case rematch for me isnt the right move either but ano winning vs nip on lags isnt right win too, i dont know what would be the best solution cuz no matter that, one side will be victim
2021-05-18 18:39
I think its amusing that Anonymo continued to play that game, while they were fully aware they had an unfair advantage never had aforethought of a potential backlash.
2021-05-18 03:24
8 replies
+1
2021-05-18 05:20
so they should just stop playing? and then get dq for someone else problem? why nip continued playing with lags? they have brain, they know that they gonna have disadvantage
2021-05-18 05:42
4 replies
For the reason you just mentioned, they had to.
2021-05-18 06:18
3 replies
that's right, because of DQ are u dumb or what?
2021-05-18 07:12
2 replies
Thats what I mean, ofcourse they have to continue playing. Thats why the rematch has to happen, they got forced to play under massive lags.
2021-05-18 07:16
Both teams wanted to reschedule, both team were forced to play by Flashpoint. Making a rematch totally fair. Anonymo knows they won vs a team with issues, don’t get why they and their fans act like they won a fair game.
2021-05-18 09:00
So they should have forfeited because their opponents don't have a backup internet or because flashpoint can't organize a proper event.
2021-05-18 06:19
1 reply
We all know flashpoint is the culprit here, but Anonymo playing the victim game seems a bit devious.
2021-05-18 16:44
"The decision follows a request submitted by NIP, whose players experienced connection issues throughout the series" Nip pressured a better team once again
2021-05-18 05:44
6 replies
Pressure vs official request I bet you've a finger countable number of brain cells
2021-05-18 06:09
1 reply
You're looking at it from a neutral view, that's your mistake. Nip is snake org and should be expected to do such moves
2021-05-18 13:53
Cool, present any evidence for that. It is a pure speculation from Anonymo, probably just to make low IQ fans angry
2021-05-18 09:02
3 replies
Literally This was such an immature and rat move from anynomo, to make such wild speculations in an "official statement" 100% gas lighting the community
2021-05-18 09:08
1 reply
+1
2021-05-18 09:14
hltv.org/news/31767/nip-anonymo-to-repla.. It's literally on hltv smh...
2021-05-18 13:52
if nip win 2-1 at first place would the request to replay due to connection issues ? i dont think so they keep playiing instead quitting = clowns in pijamas
2021-05-18 05:47
1 reply
why replaying a match if guys cant win against dudes with bad internet, then they stand zero chance against the same people but with good connection. its not like if someone had bad conditions the match should be replayed regardless of the result. There is a rematch for a reason: nip's loss was heavily guided by bad internet. now teams are in as equal conditions as you can get online
2021-05-18 16:57
#26
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Brazil hugoooo
They are being low... they played the bo3 until the very end, the outcome was supposed to be overturned ONLY in case of a legit cheat/throw. Connection issues NEVER overturned any CS match ever, at least on pro level. If they had beaten Anonymo, they would never as for a rematch, since they lost, here we are.
2021-05-18 05:50
5 replies
Well in that case Trashpoint don't even care about cheats. Trashpoint 3 qualifiers were full of cheaters and many teams who got eliminated by them never got to replay any of those games which they lost playing against cheaters.
2021-05-18 06:28
y would they lol? if anonymo lose with an advantage its just proves anonymo are that shite..now anonymo dont have any claims regarding the matter why would nip ask for a rematch then
2021-05-18 06:37
+1
2021-05-18 10:43
yeah no shit they wouldn’t ask for a rematch LOL they legit beat anonymo handicapped hltv IQ i swear
2021-05-18 15:01
1 reply
#169
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Brazil hugoooo
Exactly... it was the plan: win = ok lose = pressure Flashpoint to force a rematch No wonder why literally EVERY pro player is against NIP/Flashpoint in this case, only a few dumb HLTV users are trying to defend them.
2021-05-18 15:32
Disgusting move by NIP, putting the TO in an almost impossible position, and even worst: TO with no balls to enforce the results. If you're gonna replay at least replay the 3 maps! What a bunch of greedy idiots and a bunch of incompetents.
2021-05-18 05:57
21 replies
Anynomo choose to play bo1 They offered either bo3 or bo1 Also nip requested reschedule flashpoint denied so no nip didn't set up a win-win situation Just read the statements you ignorant koala
2021-05-18 06:11
20 replies
By they offered you mean NiP. Right?
2021-05-18 06:36
19 replies
Flashpoint Offered anynomo to play bo3 or bo1 anynomo chose bo1 Read the latest hltv article
2021-05-18 06:48
17 replies
The match was originally scheduled for Sunday, May 16th, but is currently being rescheduled and no official re-match time has been confirmed. NiP offered Anonymo to choose between playing the full BO3 or only the last map. This was their follow up to their official statement which they deleted afterwards Why do you think they did that?
2021-05-18 06:53
16 replies
Yes anynomo was given the offer to choose That alone is a generous thing for nip to do, considering they were fucked just as much as anynomo in this situation Leave it to flashpoint, they'd probably force the whole bo3 rematch As for why the tweet was deleted, is because anynomo handle the situation extremely poorly, they went on to social media saying stuff like nip were pressuring flashpoint for rematch and stuff to rile the community up. Naturally a lot of tweets had to be deleted cause anynomo couldn't keep things civil and started playing the victim card saying stuff like "we speculate nip are pressuring...." Literally who tf makes such wild accusations and assumptions in an official statement. Clearly they were trying to rile people up
2021-05-18 07:03
15 replies
Looks like NiP deleted the tweet because they realized they can use their influence to get a rematch which they don't deserve because they first themselves said that the issues were fixed going into 3rd map but then cried about losses after losing.
2021-05-18 07:10
14 replies
Flashpoint confirmed there was loss on map 3 Go watch in game chat on map3 on gotv demo, nip were complaining about lag and loss So gtfo with your misinformed conspiracy bs
2021-05-18 07:33
13 replies
If the issues still existed then why did NiP continued playing? Don't you think that they should have forfeited in protest bcz of Trashpoint's mismanagement? They tried their best to win but they lost. Anonymo did nothing wrong but still they are getting punished.
2021-05-18 07:40
6 replies
holy fuck, can you read last article? its litterly in the rules, you cant just stop playing if you have problem, you need to talk to flashpoint and show evidence AFTER the game
2021-05-18 08:07
Omfg did you even fucking read a single fucking thing or you just making your own conspiracy theories #81
2021-05-18 08:27
4 replies
ur literally malding so hard over something that doesn't concern u at all lmfao why are u wasting ur time on this shit
2021-05-18 08:43
3 replies
Not malding or wasting time, bored at work so I'm on hltv doing what everyone else is doing discussing stuff
2021-05-18 08:46
2 replies
>calling people who disagree with your views stupid, conspiracy theorists, etc. ah yes, very nice discussions
2021-05-18 08:50
1 reply
>calling people who disagree with your views stupid, conspiracy theorists, etc. insert gigachad picture
2021-05-18 09:39
All the evidence we have is he said, she said. I want to see video of constant packet loss, I dont give a fuck about gotv chat.
2021-05-18 09:13
5 replies
well, nobody cares about what you want) Valve and Flashpoint were presented all the evidence
2021-05-18 09:15
And somehow you used the same he said/she said evidences to form the opinion that nip are villains and anynomo are victims Talk about bias
2021-05-18 09:19
3 replies
I watched the game and if what they claim is true their gameplay would be insanely bad. They are just salty they lost last map after they said they fixed their issues.
2021-05-18 09:20
2 replies
Iq non existing
2021-05-18 09:23
there is client interpolation, you cant have telepoting ppl constantly, sometimes game sees enough data from a player to interpolate (smooth) his movement foe everyone else including the spectator.
2021-05-18 17:00
Flashpoint. NiP only filed an official complaint for replay after the match with proofs that problem was not on team's end. Everything according to rules. Then Flashpoint asked Anonymo how many maps should be replayed. This is a stupid rules that in case of a problems on TO's end you have to lose and only then you can ask for fair conditions and to fix their shit, but it is what it is.
2021-05-18 06:53
I have some doubts. Is the Trident-VP match (CIS RMR) eligible to be replayed, since Trident players faced power cuts? What happened was they had to forfeit the map. The problem was on Trident's side, just like it was on NiP's side in this case. So why does NiP get a rematch but they don't?
2021-05-18 06:13
9 replies
>The problem was on Trident's side, just like it was on NiP's side in this case. So why does NiP get a rematch but they don't? How is everyone on hltv sooo misinformed? After so long, after so many articles? How? Just how are people this ignorant?? The only reason there is rematch is because the problem WAS NOT ON IN NIP SIDE!! Jesus, flashpoint themselves confirmed it was flashpoint issue and nip couldn't have done anything to solve it hence the re match. If it was nip issue there would have been no rematch
2021-05-18 06:18
4 replies
And what exactly did Anonymo do wrong to get punished in all this?
2021-05-18 06:25
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They didn't get punished because the game they "won" was not fair in the first place.
2021-05-18 10:12
Okay, I see. I was a bit busy the past few days. To me, the first thing that occured was, if NiP was playing from Poland (for example), using a Polish ISP, this problem wouldn't have occurred, right? Because anonymo didn't face any problems. The problem of the swedish ISP not allowing packets to pass through to the flashpoint server was the problem, I think. So, why is it not NiP's fault is my first question. If something like "but NiP is from Sweden, not their fault" was an argument, that holds for Trident as well. But if you say that the problem was specifically on Flashpoint's side that they somehow didn't allow NiP's packets to come in, regardless of which ISP was used, then you are correct. Is that the case?
2021-05-18 06:37
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Yes, this is the case. NiP even tried to use VPN it seems like, didn't work. Something about security settings of the server which they won't tell specifics for obvious reasons.
2021-05-18 06:58
The problem was NOT on NIP's side, it was at Flashpoint's side. NIP could NOT have done ANYTHING to get rid of the packet losses.
2021-05-18 06:20
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They did tweet about the issues being fixed going into 3rd map but after losing it the tweet got deleted and they started crying about losses. Didn't they?
2021-05-18 06:30
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Why does that matter? 2 out of 3 maps they had huge lags
2021-05-18 07:05
this is why I call BS, if the lag really came back then they could have just replied to themselves something like "nvm :(" but they didn't
2021-05-18 10:45
Anonymo fans acting Like it was fair and deserved win. If thats True, they will beat NIP again, prove to everyone that they are better team and every NIP fan will be ashamed. If Anonymo will get stomp, NiP will prove that they were right about it and every Anonymo fan will be ashamed 🤷‍♀️
2021-05-18 06:25
1 reply
nice logic
2021-05-18 06:30
I don’t know if HLTV users hate NIP, but the right decision is just to blame Flashpoint admins. As far as I know, NiP didn’t text admins for a rematch, i think Flashpoint were trying to avoid hate from the community but as a result it got even worse
2021-05-18 06:31
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2021-05-18 06:35
5 replies
Oh really? Didn’t know about that. If its true, it changes the situation
2021-05-18 06:38
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#46 Basically this Also the 1st statement tweet by flashpoint said NiP offered Anonymo to either play full bo3 or the 3rd map xDDDDDDDDDDD JUST IMAGINE THAT (They deleted that tweet and followed up with a reworded tweet after twitter went ham with memes)
2021-05-18 06:42
2021-05-18 07:34
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2021-05-18 07:40
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Actually dumb or didn't bother read a single thing properly? Nip were forced to play the game by admins or they'd be DQed/awarded FF defeat At that nip didn't know if the fault was on thier side or faceit server side so they couldn't afford to be DQed/take Forfeit loss Now that it has been confirmed it's not thier fault at all, they have every right to demand a rematch cause they were forced to play with unfair disadvantage with no fault of their own
2021-05-18 08:25
The reasons for nip hate 1. Every team gets 30 mins to check the server before match starts .nip didn't inform about this issue before match started ( if it was trashpoint setting which led to packet loss thn it must have been same before match also) match could have been easily rescheduled if it was not restarted . 2 . After game re started (1-1) , they shd have simply refused to play n take a L thn investigate n submit evidence to trashpoint (30% packet loss is ALOT) . If it would have happened , no one would have problem with rescheduling the match. 3. After result of map 1 nip thought they could have easily win other map also despite having packet loss n they lost but issue here is it was simply a FREE ROLL . If they would have won both maps everybody would say "look nip won dispite having 40% packet loss" n no rescheduling n whn lose just reschedule .. there is no lose for nip here.. only for anonymo. 4. Nip social media somehow announced they didn't face any packet loss in map 3 , contradicting the device statement. Now m not saying its 100% nip fault , but its 5% nip n 95% trashpoint fault n somehow Anonymo has to replay for others fault
2021-05-18 06:36
5 replies
THIS
2021-05-18 06:38
According to Flashpoint, the match admin ordered the teams to play on despite NIP’s complaints as a decision to postpone a match cannot be made simply because one team claims to have issues. The organizer confirmed that an Anonymo player suggested in the in-game chat that the match could be played on another day due to the issues experienced by NIP's players, but since this possibility was not presented via the official channels, it was not taken into consideration (Taken from the replay thread)
2021-05-18 06:45
+1
2021-05-18 07:17
2021-05-18 07:35
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I've never said that there was no packet loss in game 3.. its there social media who announced this without being aware of issue
2021-05-18 08:07
Richard Lewis (and his friends: fl0m) is going all out to blame everything on NIP.
2021-05-18 06:58
#64
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United Kingdom nedwab
there was a deleted nip tweet where they said they were only being affected on the first 2 maps and then some vpn thing fixed it for them for the third. so i dont see how the mirage they played is any less legit than the rematch one (theyre only replaying third map)
2021-05-18 07:28
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2021-05-18 07:35
#70
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Brazil loldougie
Because people on HLTV are brainlets? This is common knowledge.
2021-05-18 07:36
#71
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Yea the hate is unjustified, Flashpoint accept that the fault was on their side hence they are responsible for the screw up and NiP are only acting according to what the rules say. Doesn't take away the fact that Anonymo are unfairly getting treated too.
2021-05-18 07:38
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Anonymo are not being treated unfairly. They started this drama by claiming "NiP is pressuring Flashpoint" behind the scenes and played victim in order to rile up the community. They are pricks and I hope they will get run over tonight.
2021-05-18 10:16
+1 if valve and flashpoint bouth came to the same decison i think it is the most fair decison for bouth temas
2021-05-18 09:16
they stole my boy
2021-05-18 09:29
Because a large percent of the people in here are fucking stupid.. nothing new.
2021-05-18 09:54
i dont get hate in general. u like watching nice csgo, so why not be happy for another match of nice csgo and this time more emotions and more will to win from both teams. its good.
2021-05-18 09:56
#clownsinpyjamas #trashpoint
2021-05-18 10:14
3 replies
#184
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Sweden randigdot
#clownAnonymo
2021-05-18 18:34
2 replies
#185
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Sweden randigdot
not players only org
2021-05-18 18:34
1 reply
clowns in pyjamas and players and org
2021-05-18 19:18
#Trashpoint #NothinginPaypal #NumerousInternetProblems #NoInternetPayments (because device too expensive ;( )
2021-05-18 10:24
Flashpoint should share the rulebook that is used in the tournament. As a TO they should apply their rules to solve these kinds of situations. If the community disagrees with the rules I guess it’s a good idea to change them to FUTURE situations. To not apply the rulebook to past situations due to loud voices on twitter is a mistake tho The lack of transparancy from Flashpoint/FACEIT created this entire drama imho.
2021-05-18 10:33
#149
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Denmark Slathaf
idk mens) People hate us
2021-05-18 13:53
nip bigger org therefore considered evil anonymo tier3 underdog therefore considered good also just polish fans in general
2021-05-18 13:55
1 reply
Damn u right, I forgot ppl here r polish looool
2021-05-18 15:05
ppl just sad lives nothing else to do than hate
2021-05-18 13:56
I think if it happened with anonymo, it would not be replayed and I think it is very lame and unfair. Expect people to never support NiP aside from devices diehard dane fans and swedes.
2021-05-18 14:20
Both teams are victims to the overall incompetence of Flashpoint; hence the cordial and formal apology they sent out. I will admit NiP didn't handle the situation accordingly but what else were they to do? They filed a complaint and then the situation was blown out of proportion by users not knowing all of the facts beforehand. Only organisation to blame is Flashpoint, plain and simple.
2021-05-18 15:12
5 replies
i was waiting for you here pal
2021-05-18 17:03
1 reply
Great to see you again, friend.
2021-05-18 19:36
Indeed Jonty. I fail to understand how an organisation that choose to stand tall and speak for their team and their players is to be blamed... I mean, if we were part of an org in a similar situation, wouldn't we want to have our own org behind and supporting you? Unless you're polish... Flashpoint is the only one to blame period.
2021-05-18 17:12
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Completely agree with you, I'm glad our thoughts are shared on the matter. The common argument currently is that if Anonymo originally complained and then were the team with the lag, nothing would've been done. This is conjecture... we don't know that for certain.
2021-05-18 19:39
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And they are probably right but, that doesn't mean that NiP org had to stood still ! They got behind they team and their players and that's the minimum we can expect from an organisation like NiP. Not understanding this simple fact is a mistery to me :|
2021-05-18 19:54
no reason to hate nip org HASDHSAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH are u new?
2021-05-18 15:42
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#183
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Sweden randigdot
are you blind. open youre eys. its not the org today
2021-05-18 18:31
Nip followed rules and they will win today!!!!!!!!!!!
2021-05-18 16:47
You guys must see how positive this is for Anonymo! They went from nobody to having the chance of selling t-shirts saying "We've got f****d by NiP & Trashpoint" Be postive mens! :D
2021-05-18 17:06
#180
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Finland teukkjs
let the nerds whine as much as they want :D they prolly dont have anything else to do
2021-05-18 18:24
I actually did some detailed reading and checking up. In all cases when it is the fault of the team in literally any way, there's no rematch. But this case is kinda different. No matter what ISP NiP chose, the Flashpoint server just didn't allow all packets to pass through, and there's nothing NiP could have done. They deserve a rematch.
2021-05-18 18:25
I don't understand how this situation is still going on
2021-05-18 19:37
#198
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Poland xMBTx
winning bo3 by anonymo (nip fought tooth and nails in this bo3) was a way to SURVIVE in this match, if the lost it they wouldnt have a chance at all (0 chance), for anonymo this bo3 was like semifinals and the replay was the final, for nip this bo3 was a freeroll, and the replay was the final thats why nip had 2 chances and its no fair to have 2 chances vs 1 chance and on top of that, nip ASKED for 2 chances, nip ASKED for this match to not be fair, they are not stupid, they fully acknowledged that that wouldnt be fair at all = nip ceo scammer and some u say about "competitive integrity" "sportsmanlike behaviour" "justice", guys NIP dont have it in their dictionary
2021-05-19 15:20
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