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Slovenia loba_best_fpl_player 
bet355 added option to see which player holds which weapon,excatly how much money they have,hp,armor in real time without any delay. What teams have to do is: go on bet365 site and get all the info about enemy economy and weapons. This can easily be used and noone would ever know that they cheated.
2021-06-10 17:10
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And how do you know that there’s not a delay?
2021-06-10 17:11
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+1
2021-06-10 17:12
beacuse they are odds behind it and they are always 3-4 rounds ahead of hltv
2021-06-10 17:13
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Finland okxD
He is Loba and abused it himself against Finest so he knows.
2021-06-10 17:13
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cash cups dont have live odds on bet365 or that data
2021-06-10 17:13
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Finland okxD
Oh that must be why u lost against Finest then.
2021-06-10 17:14
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:D
2021-06-10 17:14
Why would odds have a delay lmao
2021-06-10 17:14
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Did you even read the thread? It can be heavily abused
2021-06-10 17:15
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Yes it can be
2021-06-10 17:16
Make no sense to get live score but then use weapon etc the 4 min delay.. Makes absolutely 0 sense where is your logic?
2021-06-10 17:28
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Makes absolutely 0 sense? What is it you don't understand? It is very surprising if a betting company allows the users to view detailed information on live csgo matches. This can heavily, and easily, be abused by everyone. It would have a huge impact if it's being abused - which is why it would be surprising. Honestly, it's quite easy to understand so it's astounding how it makes 0 sense to you.
2021-06-10 17:42
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Bet website doesn't care about the games they care about money. More live data more bets more chance to make a profit. Why do you think bet companies work so closely with HLTV?? Cuz Data means you give users the better feeling of knowledge so more bet, some win but in the end, the bet sites wins always. And they care only about match-fixing cuz it loses them money if they lose no money they wouldn't care at all.
2021-06-10 17:46
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Honestly, your comment is quite hard to understand. It feels like you completely missed everything I wrote. It's not about what the betting companies think or want. It's about what they are allowed to do. This isn't even about them. This is about the integrity of the entire scene and teams using a gateway to get illegal information that would be considered cheating. If it's a betting company, news site, gaming site etc doesn't even matter in this context. The only thing that matters is the fact that someone is giving away information that shouldn't have been given away.
2021-06-10 17:50
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You say it makes sense to do live score but weapon 4 rounds before because it could harm the game etc. And I said bet sites don't care so it logic for them to do so
2021-06-10 17:59
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Again, it shouldn't necessarily be up to the betting sites to decide this. If something has the risk of seriously destroying the integrity of the game it should be discussed if such a thing should even be allowed in the first place. It doesn't matter if it's a betting site or whatever....
2021-06-10 18:04
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The bet sites get the data from a data company and they get it from the TO. So blame the TO. And TO give it bet sites cuz they sponsor many events
2021-06-10 18:05
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Yes, exactly! If the information provided in the thread is true then it should definitely be looked into.
2021-06-10 18:07
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i think it is pretty close to truth but ofc i cant be 100% sure cause i dont work for them
2021-06-10 18:08
Betting sites pay money to organizers so they give them the data. Maybe you're asking to delay those bets, but then it would be even worst since someone close to teams could bet accurately if they lose or win without the need of matchfixing at all. The only real fix, is go back to LAN or do the games in some headquarters or with a third person working as an admin behind players, that should play together on the team hq or something.
2021-06-10 18:12
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+1 agree
2021-06-10 18:12
Sure, but just releasing raw data with no delay to the public certainly doesn't seem like the right solution - there's has to be a better alternative. LAN would definitely help, true. But then the problem would still persist in all online matches
2021-06-10 18:16
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right solution is to delete last update and not give info about economy
2021-06-10 18:18
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United States Shr3y
You talk so much without saying anything
2021-06-11 09:38
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Eh, I think the problem is on you here, mate. The other people understood the message.
2021-06-11 10:04
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Finland okxD
wtf if true
2021-06-10 17:11
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Europe PowwneD
Lol there is a delay ofc
2021-06-10 17:14
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Finland okxD
ok!
2021-06-10 17:14
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Europe PowwneD
Wow u fast
2021-06-10 17:15
with live odds behind it? idk about that.....
2021-06-10 17:25
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#54
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Europe PowwneD
Live odds are delayed too, if every bettors have the same delay, they will bet on the same thing, I don't get your point dude
2021-06-11 09:29
It is....
2021-06-10 20:17
wow
2021-06-10 17:12
gamb0ts cheating confirmed???? would be nice but I don't think so
2021-06-10 17:12
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nah they got gud way before this was a possibility
2021-06-10 17:15
Why would it be nice if gambit were cheating? Need to explain that to me
2021-06-10 17:19
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because I hate gambit
2021-06-10 17:30
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beacuse of which player?
2021-06-10 17:38
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everyone except hobbit
2021-06-10 18:47
What did they do to you? Play good cs?
2021-06-10 19:04
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Just another one of those things to hopefully not be abused by professional teams.
2021-06-10 17:16
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it will be,cant trust people 🤡
2021-06-10 17:40
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Europe Asviix
yup and that's a real threat, the delay (sometimes not present) is way shorther than HLTV's or GOTV, so teams could use it to their advantage
2021-06-10 17:16
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i doubt there is much delay at all,they are few rounds ahead of any stream/hltv result,i dont think streams have 7-8 min delay to prevent this
2021-06-10 17:18
100% its going to be abused but it's only that much info you get from it. The main problem I see is that teams can prepare against an eco by looking what weapons the other team has
2021-06-10 17:28
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yea but imagine you see other team on normal buy except 1 guy didnt have money so he bought smg or shotgun or sth.Then you see the player name and you know he usually play ramp position on nuke... Think about it this way,maybe my thinking is wrong tho....
2021-06-10 17:32
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Not wrong, it's the obvious way to explode it, if it's a half buy, you know if you can push one site or another or if they bought awp or not and you can go peek long with less pressure. Plus, if you studied closely one team, you'll know that if they bought smg is because they will do a fast ramp, or if they buy smg+m4, one is gonna be closer to do a flash setup or something.
2021-06-10 18:17
Good point. It's really odd they decided to go for this feature. I understand it will improve the "experience" for the platform users but it can damage the integrity of the game at the same time +1 for spotting and highlighting it
2021-06-10 18:25
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i noticed this last week and my brain after 1 week decide that it would be good idea to post this on hltv 😁
2021-06-10 18:20
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Portugal Surya
How i never thought of this interesting question
2021-06-10 17:30
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Unluko
2021-06-10 18:46
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Faroe Islands AdNauseam
its a smart observation but i believe it has a small delay like in another sports but this delay maybe will not be enough to stop teams abusing it
2021-06-10 17:49
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i agree with you even tho delay seems same for same tournaments like before
2021-06-10 17:53
wtf
2021-06-10 18:08
ofc there is small delay
2021-06-10 18:18
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but then odds arent real time? soo basicly everyone around players could make bets at incorrect odds
2021-06-10 18:19
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theres delay but delay is like only few seconds (5 at max)
2021-06-11 09:31
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5 seconds=0 delay it doesnt make difference
2021-06-11 13:55
more proof we need lan
2021-06-11 10:20
2 replies
True
2021-06-11 13:54
+1
2021-06-11 13:56
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