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Lionel Messi
Spain LULW___KEKW 
No player except Lionel Messi has ever won both the IFFHS Playmaker of the year award and the European Golden boot. He has won the most of both awards.
2021-06-10 20:05
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no-one is arguing against the fact Messi is the goat
2021-06-10 20:06
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Some people do sadly
2021-06-10 20:06
11 replies
Those people belong in a lunatic asylum.
2021-06-10 20:28
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+1 sixpack merchants
2021-06-10 20:32
I would say that Cruyff is the best ever
2021-06-10 22:50
4 replies
0/8
2021-06-10 22:51
1 reply
ok.
2021-06-10 22:56
#86
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Finland Miroyev
Cryuff's turn is classic so I r8 your b8 1/8
2021-06-11 03:12
lol, not even in the top5 of greatest players of all time
2021-06-11 23:12
Delusionals argue about it
2021-06-11 14:17
#188
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Brazil Dengozo
Cr7 = s1mple Messi = ZywOo
2021-06-11 23:13
2 replies
0/8
2021-06-12 08:47
0/8
2021-06-12 11:49
+1
2021-06-10 20:16
lingardinho goat?? wtf
2021-06-10 20:23
2 replies
true haha better than Harry Kane after going to west ham
2021-06-10 20:32
i will always remember martin tyler shouting "lingardinhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooo"
2021-06-11 15:20
#29
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Lithuania ElephantX
+1
2021-06-10 20:25
#58
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Norway coneninho
Agreed AFCHannes
2021-06-10 22:50
#74
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Brazil cauby
The naked guy that brazlians spam when mad at twitter (Vampeta )1 Fifa World Cup. Messi 0 Fifa World Cup. 2ez4Vampeta the god of "cambalhota".
2021-06-11 00:44
unfortunately, no-brainers still can't accept this fact
2021-06-11 00:54
+1
2021-06-11 13:55
CR7 fans do :)
2021-06-11 13:56
Maradona>>>>>>>>>>>>>>messi
2021-06-11 14:03
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#130
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United Kingdom fal36
+1
2021-06-11 15:27
Maradona overrated. handball goal flukes and circus move doesn't make him better than goatssi
2021-06-11 16:02
1 reply
When na talks about football
2021-06-11 17:13
+1
2021-06-11 17:50
#106
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Austria arngnr
R9 would've been the GOAT without his medical problems imo
2021-06-11 14:11
3 replies
Maybe
2021-06-11 14:44
1 reply
#168
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Austria arngnr
his highlights before he fell off are just so insane
2021-06-11 17:56
he is still considered top3 of all time. i don't think he would have the career that messi had but he was insanely good
2021-06-11 23:13
I really like cristiano ronaldo and his playstyle, but i have to say that messi is probably the best, his talent is unreal tho
2021-06-11 15:27
Cope and cry is free Ronaldo is better and GOAT
2021-06-11 15:38
#196
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Sweden Trkmag
+1
2021-06-12 11:52
#2
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Denmark Almoe
won most awards in least entertaining sport = who cares waterpolo > soccer
2021-06-10 20:06
7 replies
This ratio >>>
2021-06-10 20:07
6 replies
go back to twitter 👍
2021-06-10 20:14
1 reply
cry
2021-06-10 22:53
go back to twitter you prick
2021-06-10 20:14
1 reply
2021-06-10 22:54
time to go back to twitter m8
2021-06-10 22:52
1 reply
2021-06-10 22:54
This is the first time I am hearing about the IFFHS playmaker of the year award
2021-06-10 20:06
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It was founded on 27 March 1984 in Leipzig by Alfredo Pöge with the blessings of general secretary of the FIFA at the time, Helmut Käser.
2021-06-10 20:07
#7
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Albania gamer97
GOAT
2021-06-10 20:08
4 replies
Definitely
2021-06-10 20:08
3 replies
Ronaldo better Cry is free
2021-06-11 15:38
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#182
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Canada keenwa
nt, Ronaldo is only a tap in merchant
2021-06-11 20:06
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Lol Cry cry cry He'd out sprint the mid field and defense but you can keep crying
2021-06-11 23:11
#9
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United States lolmens246
GOAT
2021-06-10 20:10
how many major
2021-06-10 20:12
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#17
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United States lolmens246
4
2021-06-10 20:16
#11
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Finland joopajoo
lionel who? not even lvl 10 faceit
2021-06-10 20:13
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#15
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United States lolmens246
True
2021-06-10 20:16
+1 kkkkkk
2021-06-10 22:49
Iffhs is one of the biggest shithouseries in football.
2021-06-10 20:15
messi is not the goat cuz ne never won anything with argentinia, ronaldo did
2021-06-10 20:18
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0/8 Ronaldo never won anything with argentina
2021-06-10 20:23
3 replies
lol
2021-06-11 13:57
+1
2021-06-11 14:20
#180
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Poland kruky
kek
2021-06-11 19:37
#24
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United States lolmens246
very impressive to win something with argentina as a portugal
2021-06-10 20:23
2 replies
What's a portugal?
2021-06-11 14:41
1 reply
flag checks out
2021-06-11 15:20
Ez when you stat pad against Eibar and Elche and then disappear in big games.
2021-06-10 20:20
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#25
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United States lolmens246
hasn't played a single game against Eibar this season. Meanwhile Ronaldo bags hattricks against Cagliari
2021-06-10 20:24
1 reply
how many hattricks Messi did vs Cagliari?
2021-06-11 15:21
#20
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Argentina lechon
wrong, maradona true GOAT when he hadn't discovered drugs yet.
2021-06-10 20:22
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#22
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United States lolmens246
0/8
2021-06-10 20:23
12 replies
#28
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Argentina lechon
Maradona is a hero here, Messi isn't- says it all really
2021-06-10 20:25
11 replies
#31
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United States lolmens246
you wish
2021-06-10 20:27
10 replies
#34
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Argentina lechon
just search for anything about his funeral. It trascended any pandemic and whatnot
2021-06-10 20:28
9 replies
#35
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United States lolmens246
True. Messi's funeral hasn't done that. Messi is not a legend in Argentina.
2021-06-10 20:29
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#42
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Argentina lechon
never compared messi's funeral with maradona's. 1) messi is still alive 2) what I'm comparing is how he was treated, unless he wins a world cup in the coming years he isn't going to be treated like that. Not only because of how he played, but how significant his whole personality traits like his leadership is. 3) I'm aware that you're probably trollink plus I never said messi isn't a legend here, but Maradona is more iconic for sure, even considering his... questionable attitudes outside of the pitch.
2021-06-10 20:35
7 replies
Cry G
2021-06-10 20:37
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#46
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Argentina lechon
not crying, just spitting facts and making a point about what I see around me
2021-06-10 20:39
2 replies
ratio then
2021-06-10 20:40
1 reply
#49
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Argentina lechon
mmmmmm idk maybe
2021-06-10 20:41
He isn't lol. Just nostalgic Argentine fans clinging onto international glory. Messi is literally 10x more iconic and famous than Maradona. He is also a better football player, but Argentines seems to be in denial and act like Maradona is their deity. They need to wake up from the past tbh, and realize that Messi >>>> Maradona in every aspect.
2021-06-11 01:02
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#84
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Argentina lechon
messi hasn't done shit with the national football team, but is better internationally. What we praise about maradona is how witty he was when playing, and how he played with heart and soul like he was in a "potrero", which is basically a rudimentary football field in low-class neighborhoods like where he grew up. And no, messi isn't 10x more iconic here lol. However, I think it's more a question of personal opinion. Most argentines prefer maradona, but the bottom line is that both are incredibly good and internationally famous and achieved.
2021-06-11 02:26
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Messi is objectively more iconic and famous around the globe. He is also better, him not being at his best INT'lly won't change that. It's slowly becoming more of a fact then opinion.
2021-06-11 03:03
Messi might be a better soccer player but something just makes maradona the goat
2021-06-11 14:07
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#114
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Argentina lechon
finally someone agrees with me
2021-06-11 14:36
Maradona is indeed the GOAT. He played large amount of his career in Italy which at the time was like hardest league to play in. Besides that back then u could break someones ankles and just get a yellow card lol.
2021-06-11 17:40
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#162
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Argentina lechon
yeah, on that last point, he played the entire 1990 world cup with an extremely swollen ankle. The whole of it.
2021-06-11 17:50
#26
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France IRVINGx9
Messi good gamesense but Ronaldo better aim.
2021-06-10 20:24
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#27
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United States lolmens246
0/8
2021-06-10 20:25
#38
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Nepal hpbaxx
2021-06-10 20:30
2 replies
HAHAHAHA
2021-06-10 20:34
#48
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Argentina lechon
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2021-06-10 20:40
1 reply
+1
2021-06-11 14:26
Who? Chess player?
2021-06-10 20:26
2 replies
#32
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United States lolmens246
Virat Kohli is the GOAT
2021-06-10 20:27
I think ice hockey player
2021-06-10 22:50
Pessi KEKW
2021-06-10 20:30
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#37
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United States lolmens246
reps s0mple XDDD
2021-06-10 20:30
Ratio . Ratio . Make better content or unfollow Ratiod by penaldo .
2021-06-10 20:38
RIP MESSI PepeHands
2021-06-10 20:39
1 reply
messi pregnant check HLTV
2021-06-10 22:48
easy goat
2021-06-10 20:42
1 reply
+1
2021-06-10 20:45
THE GOAT 100%
2021-06-10 20:55
2 replies
+1
2021-06-10 22:47
:D
2021-06-10 22:55
did he wont anything internationally? oh wait...
2021-06-10 22:49
10 replies
Messi 4 international finals bottled, this guy is truly finished
2021-06-10 22:52
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so he didn't won it, right?
2021-06-11 00:42
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yes bottled = choked
2021-06-11 13:36
and he is still better than every player portugal have produced.
2021-06-11 00:55
6 replies
+1
2021-06-11 15:21
cr7, eusebio >>>>>>>>>>>> messi
2021-06-11 15:22
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lol even eseubio said that messi is better than ronaldo and himself
2021-06-11 17:09
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He was wrong
2021-06-11 17:19
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who do I believe: Most established footballers, analysts, coaches, commentators OR imperator on HLTV.ORG?? hmm
2021-06-11 17:22
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u know its obvious ez for imperator from HLTV.ORG
2021-06-11 17:47
#66
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Slovakia VERGiLx
Cristiano is better but messi not bad, when he wins euro we can talk
2021-06-10 22:54
3 replies
Chod do pici
2021-06-10 23:06
messi cant win euro because his national team plays copa america.
2021-06-11 01:46
1 reply
0/8
2021-06-11 14:10
#68
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Finland tonyi
Get this man a damn World Cup please
2021-06-10 22:56
2 replies
+1
2021-06-10 23:03
+1
2021-06-11 13:55
Messi is the GOAT
2021-06-10 22:57
King of awards doesn't make him a World Cup winner
2021-06-11 00:47
Messi also the only guy in history to have 10+ major seasonal individual awards. 6 European Golden Boots + 6 Balon D'ors = 12 Ronaldo: 4 Golden Boots + 5 Balon D'ors = 9
2021-06-11 00:57
imagine making up trophies smh
2021-06-11 00:59
name +1
2021-06-11 01:08
#88
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Romania Pirlinho7
Oh just stfu with your midget who can only play for one club,since Xavi and Iniesta are gone Barcelona is in a continuous fall. You get to see that he can only play for Barca by watching how successful Argentina has been. For me there is no comparison between CR7 and mesi because CR7 is the most complete player ever,he managed to change his playstyle from season to season and managed to dominate not just 1 or 2 leagues,but 3 + he did it for his national team.
2021-06-11 13:50
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learn football
2021-06-11 14:01
3 replies
#98
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Romania Pirlinho7
Sick reply, I 've been watching them playing for more than 10 years but for me CR7 was and will be the best,surely mesi is one of the greatest players but he only did it for barcelona,mostly when xavi and iniesta were playing.You can clearly see that after 2015 barcelona is going from bad to worse.
2021-06-11 14:05
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Lmao since Ronaldo is in Juve they became shit. Your argument is as stupid as your understanding of football.
2021-06-11 21:20
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#194
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Romania Pirlinho7
They became shit because Ronaldo came or because they have a total different team than the one from 2012-2017 with new players without experience and a bit average? How do you expect a 36 y.o. CR7 to perform like the one from Real Madrid/ Man U? At juve he is no longer a winger,he is a striker and you can see that he doesn't get too many chances per game to score but still is the top goal scorer of Seria A and without him they wouldn't achieve the 4th place.
2021-06-12 11:47
How many ballon d'or
2021-06-11 14:49
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#120
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Romania Pirlinho7
5 for Ronaldo,but all of them being deserved while mesi has 6 while atleast 2 of them were not deserved - > 2010 when Iniesta or Xavi were decisive in the World Cup for Spain - > 2019 when it was a close call winning by 7 points of something like that and arguably Van Dijk deserved it more that year since mesi only won the Copa del Rey
2021-06-11 14:56
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You forget about 2013 and 2014
2021-06-11 15:18
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#131
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Romania Pirlinho7
What about 2013 and 2014? 2013- Everyone said that Ribery deserved that Ballon d'or but he didn t really scored that much for bayern, surely he Washington an important player but noroc enough to win BdA,btw in the standings that year mesi was second and Ribery third 2014 - Who else should've won when Ronaldo won la decima scoring 17 goals and copa del rey?
2021-06-11 15:28
holy shit bro, you're actually retarded
2021-06-11 17:10
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#147
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Romania Pirlinho7
Why you say that, everything I said is true and its up to me to decide who is better. In this case you are the only retarted here.
2021-06-11 17:28
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Oh well. I will choose to believe the overwhelming majority of professional footballers, legends, commentators, analysts and managers who say that Messi is better, than people who lack football knowledge.
2021-06-11 17:36
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#156
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Romania Pirlinho7
Good for you and I respect their/your opinion. Btw is not as overwhelming as you think, most of them tend to change their opinion when other performs better than the other (most obvious example,Pele). In the end I think is better to say that both of them are GOATs because I dont that there will be other players as good as them.
2021-06-11 17:43
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Only Pele, lol. And it is the overwhelming majority, if you remove people who have been affiliated with them before, like; SAF, pep, ibra, evra etc. Then it's like 85:15 who thinks Messi is better. It was on a twitter thread with 200+ responses some time ago. They're both the best of this generation obviously, but Messi is just better, and if you've watched both of them week in and out, you'd realise.
2021-06-11 17:53
There is only one GOAT and his name is LIONEL MESSI.
2021-06-11 13:54
Messi GOAT
2021-06-11 14:04
the only think i hate about messi he never played on national team like he did in barcelona.
2021-06-11 14:04
the goat
2021-06-11 14:06
Ronaldinho in his prime, the true GOAT
2021-06-11 14:07
cr7 goat obv but nt 0/8 tho
2021-06-11 14:08
Everyone is comparing messi to maradona, r9, ronaldinho, zidane and cr7 no one is comparing cr7 to those players for a reason. Messs is goat
2021-06-11 14:10
NT mezii, endpoint still sucks
2021-06-11 14:11
Statics can be biggest manipulators, they are like straws one can bend them whichever way they like.
2021-06-11 14:12
CR7 is the goat but okay
2021-06-11 14:16
the GOAT
2021-06-11 14:20
PULGA ♥
2021-06-11 14:42
1 reply
GOAT
2021-06-11 15:19
GOAT
2021-06-11 14:49
1 reply
+1
2021-06-11 15:19
Lol all these delusional people in this post calling Messi goat Ronaldo is better, is a beast of an athlete. I'll wait till Messi can jump higher, run faster, dribble and step over better than Ronaldo. Until then cry is free delusional Messi fans Ronaldo Ez GOAT
2021-06-11 15:41
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They are stuck on footbal only, as short-sightedness people they are... Imagine, just for fun, that football ended yesterday but all the other sports continue. Now imagine Cristiano and Lionel playing any other sport...! Does this people need drawings ffs?
2021-06-11 15:48
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What??
2021-06-11 16:59
Messi is like 10 times the dribbler Ronaldo ever was XD
2021-06-11 16:59
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#159
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Portugal skiLfuI
you probably never watched man utd ronaldo
2021-06-11 17:47
New fag never watched Ronaldo in his prime early Madrid and man utd I'll wait till Messi can even come close the Ronaldo's steb over and jukes Cry is free until then
2021-06-11 18:47
2 replies
hahaha
2021-06-11 18:51
1 reply
Cope is free
2021-06-11 19:28
+1
2021-06-11 18:50
r u dumb lmfao. Messi can run faster with the ball (matters more) and dribble better. he does not need to do some shitty step overs to get pass one player when he can dribble past multiple. also dont try to tell me that Man Utd Ronaldo Dribbling > Messi Dribbling. I've watched him at man utd and that is just not objectively true. it's a fact that messi is the goat and better, and facts dont care about your feelings.
2021-06-11 19:34
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+1
2021-06-12 08:55
Noone cares about pessi never won international trophy and only ever played at barca and they have been finished since xavi and iniesta left
2021-06-11 17:10
#143
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Portugal mrsc
messi is the most skilled player ive ever seen play the game. however, hes proven time and time again how big of a choker he is every season in ucl and for argentina. the greatest in every sport is the guy who manages to define it by his attitude, charisma, winning mentality. messi doesnt have the mental fortitude of a champion, technical ability isnt everything. goat? im portuguese but its ronaldo imo, hes pure inspiration inside and outside of the game. was never the best mechanically but he defined the sport - amount of trophies he won, his attitude, carrying almost as much as messi. in the end thats what makes us love the game
2021-06-11 17:19
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everything checks out. messi isn't choking, his team lets him down.
2021-06-11 17:42
6 replies
Everything checks Blind fanboy
2021-06-11 19:29
5 replies
get a job
2021-06-11 19:29
4 replies
Thanks I already have one, you consider getting one And if you have just know telling people to get a life/job is ultra cringe just like you. Usually a sign of insecurity
2021-06-11 19:31
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And if you have just know telling people to get a life/job is ultra cringe just like you. Usually a sign of insecurity
2021-06-11 19:36
2 replies
Your iq and reasoning seems that of like a kid. Gl
2021-06-11 20:01
1 reply
Ratio then
2021-06-12 08:50
ANKARA MESSI ANKARA MESSI ANKARA MESSI
2021-06-11 17:22
2 replies
wtf
2021-06-11 17:35
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only retards & gays can say that Messi isn't. CR7 is far away behind Messi and never had a legend skill. when you look at Messi playing at 9 he was doing exactly the same that he did at 24. This man got a gift from god to become football's god Messi is a legend since he is 20 cr7 will never be in the top 10 legends. cr7 is hard work stats & advertises . Messi is the goat with pure skill.
2021-06-11 17:37
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flag doesnt checks out
2021-06-11 17:34
+1 he is olof and zywoo of football meanwhile penaldo is statpadder overrated bot like s0mple and ecovice
2021-06-11 17:34
3 replies
mental illness
2021-06-11 17:42
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#166
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Italy NotNew
ronaldo = device there's no way to deny it, no matter how much you try
2021-06-11 17:53
1 reply
don't care really
2021-06-11 17:55
He is still midget though. Can’t give respect to midgets.
2021-06-11 17:45
1 reply
cringe bait by botlof. get a job.
2021-06-12 08:50
Can't believe these Messi Ronaldo fanbois are fighting on CS page too smh Get a life kids
2021-06-11 17:49
Zlatan GOAT
2021-06-11 17:51
1 reply
it's insane how he's still good at such a high age...
2021-06-11 18:51
Greatest of all time
2021-06-11 18:51
1 reply
+1
2021-06-11 20:06
#197
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Indonesia FinZzz
I still cant believe some people think that CR is better than Messi. Messi just dominates almost every single aspect of a an attacking player including goalscoring, playmaking ability, passing, freekicks, dribbling, and teamplay. None has ever reached this kind of mastery on multiple aspects.
2021-06-13 16:28
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