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ZywOo is TOP 2 already
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France Haibara 
People are disrespecting ZywOo left and right, and saying Yekindar > ZywOo, or sh1ro > ZywOo and what not. The truth is, as good as sh1ro has been, he is nowhere near HLTV top 2, the top 2 belongs to s1mple and ZywOo, with s1mple leading at 1st because Blast Global Finals and Dreamhack Masters MVP, but ZywOo as a close second due to not making playoffs in a few tournaments despite his really good stats. If Vitality steps up and start winning more and more games, ZywOo will easily win MVP, which means ZywOo will be top 1 again for the 3rd year and s1mple top 2.
2021-06-11 13:27
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#1
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Serbia G2_eGODS
NiKo top2
2021-06-11 13:28
15 replies
choko
2021-06-11 13:39
5 replies
#35
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Serbia G2_eGODS
S0mple
2021-06-11 14:22
B0t
2021-06-11 14:28
nt noscene
2021-06-11 16:24
2 replies
Chocolate
2021-06-11 22:35
1 reply
wtf ((
2021-06-12 04:40
top 2 riflers for sure idk about top 2
2021-06-11 15:02
4 replies
#77
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Serbia YODAKOLE1
+1
2021-06-11 15:52
Top 1 rifler
2021-06-11 16:24
2 replies
hard to say, close between him and ropz currently and hobbit still up there overall in 2021 and frozen is climbing thanks to flashpoint mvp
2021-06-11 16:37
1 reply
+1
2021-06-11 16:37
+1
2021-06-11 16:24
#96
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Denmark Mursten
0/8
2021-06-11 16:28
ch0ko
2021-06-11 22:45
amanek top 1
2021-06-12 04:10
#2
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Ireland JesuSenia
Ez top 1
2021-06-11 13:28
8 replies
nt botality fan
2021-06-11 13:28
7 replies
Who cares about botality? The only reason they are somewhat relevant is because of ZyWoo, the best player in the world.
2021-06-11 13:31
6 replies
#33
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Norway h0k0n0n
And rpk, rip
2021-06-11 13:55
5 replies
#60
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Europe PowwneD
Rip
2021-06-11 14:53
and nivera, RIP
2021-06-11 15:52
3 replies
#84
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Norway h0k0n0n
Yeah, bring him on the starting lineup, insta top 5 again
2021-06-11 16:10
2 replies
I mean, in this game they looked like a solid top 5 team if they keep playing like they did against VP I can see them going far with this project... guess we'll see
2021-06-11 19:47
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#130
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Norway h0k0n0n
Yep, but only this game though.. I hope they can get consistent again, and that this isn't some fluke over performance. One of the most entertaining teams to watch when they're in form.
2021-06-12 01:33
didn't read by s1mple top1
2021-06-11 13:28
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#7
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United States Rayduh
really? i don't think zywoo is top 1 right now, so it has to be s1mple right?
2021-06-11 13:29
3 replies
it IS s1mple tho
2021-06-11 13:29
right now s1mple is top 1
2021-06-11 13:33
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#51
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United States Shr3y
that's what he said
2021-06-11 14:50
#5
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India somecunt
Nah vitality is very bad right now.
2021-06-11 13:28
6 replies
perfect flair+country combo lmao
2021-06-11 14:47
3 replies
#47
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India somecunt
You forgot name...
2021-06-11 14:49
1 reply
would be better if it was KQLY_TOP1_2030
2021-06-11 14:50
#54
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United States Shr3y
haha
2021-06-11 14:51
typical indian brain HI I AM FROM INDIA I PLAY POBGI MOOBILE I AM UNDER THA WOTER PLZ HELP YEYEYEYEYEY
2021-06-11 22:37
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#131
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India somecunt
Are you mentally ok?
2021-06-12 04:08
2021-06-11 13:29
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lol vitality have been so bad and god zywoo still has 1.29 rating. And apparently this is him under performing. What a GOD
2021-06-11 13:51
with lowest amount of maps played cuz they got knocked out in lower bracket every time or didnt even reach quaterfinals.
2021-06-11 15:05
1 reply
yeah so he will be behind on the mvp race which may mean he doesn't get top 1, but filtering by big events his rating is still clearly on track for a top 2
2021-06-11 18:56
#110
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Austria arngnr
0/8
2021-06-11 18:59
0/8 say "everything check out" if u're dumb
2021-06-11 22:40
how is this disrespect? he hasn't had any decent runs in 2021 so far and half the year is almost over. other players like sh1ro ax1le etc are putting up better stats, winning tournaments and getting MVPs while zywoo has nothing to show in 2021.
2021-06-11 13:29
12 replies
Better stats ? Zywoo despite all the shitty results still has the 2nd better stats of 2021.
2021-06-11 13:32
1.29 rating this year for zywoo. s1mple has a 1.33 rating this year. The gap between zywoo and #3 is twice more than the gap between zywoo and s1mple. Last year around the middle, it was this same situation and zywoo ended up taking the #1 spot
2021-06-11 13:53
10 replies
rather zywoo 1.27 and s1mple 1.35 but yes the gap between zywoo and sh1ro is big too
2021-06-11 14:46
9 replies
and this is for the last 6 months hltv.org/stats?startDate=2020-12-11&endD.. difference of 0.01 rating lol. s1mple definitely favorite for #1 but zywoo is definitely still in the race
2021-06-11 14:50
7 replies
who cares about 6 mouths the top 20 is for 2021 that's all your stats for 2020 are only against top 20 opposition the main stats used for hltv top 20 counts all matches. zywoo doesn't appear but is at 1.27 if you put "All" , that is a whole universe behind s1mple, way more than last year. s1mple also has 2 mvps and wins while he just had katowice last year. It will be very very hard for zywoo
2021-06-11 14:53
6 replies
we are into june. 6 months just takes the first blast pro tournament out of the picture and they both have same rating basically. This shows that 1 bad tournament for s1mple puts zywoo back in #1 position, just like last year. So idk why people are talking like s1mple is clearly the winner for 2021
2021-06-11 14:54
5 replies
why take blast off ? it is a huge tournament and its implication on the results of top 2021 are gigantic. Last year ,at this time, zywoo was already mvp of blast while s1mple had just 1 mvp and one win. They were also much closer in stats. You also have to put into perspective that zywoo won't be at blast just after IEM Summer. If he doesn't get at least a mvp here at IEM Summer it will require an absolute perfect run from the rest of the year from Vitality with navi and s1mple not performing (very unlikely)
2021-06-11 14:58
1 reply
My low iq friend, I'm just showing you how much difference 1 tournament can make to the ratings. Just like how simple shat the bed with 0.2 rating vs akuma lol. Anything can happen.
2021-06-11 16:25
#85
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Ukraine bvs_
#64 and #71 already screwed u, but i wanted to do it by myself. hltv.org/stats/players?event=5901&event=.. that's what hltv cares about + MVP and that's why s1 is far ahead of Zywoo at least for now and btw CIS is the strongest region rn
2021-06-11 16:11
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LUL CIS region strongest region but past 2 years top 1s were both french hmmmmmmmm. CIS only 1 top 1 in csgo era, EU 9
2021-06-11 16:26
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#97
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Ukraine bvs_
C9 won the major in 2018 so what now? Are they still strong bc they won it 3 years ago? delusional..and yeah in 2021 CIS is the strongest region by far, there was the only tournament where CIS team hadnt won the whole thing(that Heroic fluke come back), so yeah, get rekt 11 y.o. kiddo
2021-06-11 16:30
wdym. It's June now
2021-06-11 13:29
nope
2021-06-11 13:31
#14
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Romania Pirlinho7
No,S1mple is already miles away from any competition atm and for now he is TOP1,but we will have the confirmation after Navi wins the Major this year. #S1mpleGOAT
2021-06-11 13:32
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and this is after s1mple play vs CIS farmers and kebab makers while zywoo played vs top european talent
2021-06-11 14:51
5 replies
If you really watched all the CIS matches you would realise s1mple gets lesser rating vs CIS teams compared to tier 1 teams
2021-06-11 15:42
2 replies
s1mple is a god, he can easily rekt them if he tried (except for gambit). It's just that he can't be a hard carry like he is vs tier1 teams because b1t, perfecto and elec play well vs CIS teams. And the rating i posted totally avoids non top20 teams so s1mpl's ratings vs teams like akuma isnt taken into account
2021-06-11 15:46
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then wtf do you mean by "farming CIS matches" when he literally never does his best vs them
2021-06-11 15:47
Actually, s1mple's best stats are against "Top European Talent" and his worst stats are against "CIS farmers": hltv.org/stats/players/events/7998/s1mpl.. Don't forget that there were 3 Top10 teams (both Top1 and Top2 included) and 7 Top20 teams in CIS RMR 2021. It is an MVP-based event. So, in terms of official gold, silver, bronze, and major MVPs, CIS RMR and EU RMR will have the same rank.
2021-06-11 15:48
1 reply
+1
2021-06-11 16:32
#15
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United Kingdom TwizzIr
I feel like s1mple and ZywOo have become the Messi and Ronaldo of the CS:GO world and they will most likely both be the top 1 and 2 for the forseeable future even if other players have a better year than them.
2021-06-11 13:33
#16
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South Africa CRMN1
S1mple is far ahead of the race so far this year, but ZywOo is undoubtedly 2nd. Sh1ro might come 3rd and YEKINDAR due to massive underperformance the last month or two wouldn't be top 5 if the year was to end now.
2021-06-11 13:33
15 replies
still zywoo has much time to catch up
2021-06-11 13:42
3 replies
#40
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South Africa CRMN1
He does for sure, but on the other hand if Gambit somehow maintains their good momentum as a team and get high placings in the next few tournaments, sh1ro might also catch up to ZywOo (or even s1mple as well, depending on how well he/they does/do)
2021-06-11 14:42
2 replies
i agree with u, there is still the possibility for everything
2021-06-11 16:20
1 reply
#100
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South Africa CRMN1
Truly :)
2021-06-11 16:33
2021-06-11 14:51
10 replies
HLTV TOP 20 uses an event filter not an Top 20 filter. Currently s1mple has a 1.35 rating and zywoo 1.27 while s1mple also has 2MVPs and probably 3 EVPs and Zywoo only 2 EVPs Edit: hltv.org/stats/players?event=5603&event=..
2021-06-11 15:11
8 replies
hltv #1 only care about top20 opponents. Else you'd have shitters like docc and rigoN who constantly dab on tier 100000 on the list. top20 opponenyt is only relevant
2021-06-11 15:33
7 replies
Only events which get MVPs/EVPs are counted, they obviously dont count tier 2 or lower events. Thats just not the truth. Zywoo still can get Top 1 but the gap between s1mple and zywoo is much bigger than the gap between zywoo and sh1ro, its even possible to say that sh1ro is top 2 due to his MVPs/EVPs and playoff matches.
2021-06-11 15:36
HLTV never bases a list off of a filter like "Top20". HLTV Admins themselves confirmed it last year. The ratings are based on MVP-based events + Explicit tier1 Group Stages (like Blast). The big/elite events rating is a primary factor: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01.. Go and check s1mple's cover page rating last year (It is 1.30 with 1.37 impact). You would never get 1.30 rating for "Top20" 2020 filter, for s1mple. To get 1.30, remove all non-MVP events, and then remove Ranking filters. This is supposed to be common knowledge.
2021-06-11 15:43
#81
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South Africa CRMN1
Yeah and which events are those? Those events are irrelevant for the ranking and far, far below the level of a tier 1 event. Also, last year s1mple had more rating than zywoo and zywoo ended up #1 because of the mvp difference so that only already refutes your logic.
2021-06-11 15:57
4 replies
So you agree when zywoo inevitably wins major mvp s1mple will yet again lose his #1 position yeah?
2021-06-11 16:27
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#98
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South Africa CRMN1
I mean it depends. If Na'Vi wins every other tier 1 tournament s1mple will probably still take #1 but since we're assuming Vitality wins the major and ZywOo gets the MVP and the other tournaments are split by other teams then there's a good chance he wins #1 but you can never know for sure cause there are other parameters that hltv doesn't reveal.
2021-06-11 16:32
2 replies
Yeah I agree. But imo, if zywoo wins IEM summer mvp, he's already going to be on par with s1mple this year lol. He's bonkers.
2021-06-11 17:55
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#104
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South Africa CRMN1
Could be true, lets see :D
2021-06-11 17:57
#79
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South Africa CRMN1
Far ahead yes. Rating difference might not be that big but in terms of placings in events, MVPs and trophies Na'Vi is light-years ahead of Vitality and that matters for the ranking.
2021-06-11 15:54
#18
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Europe rust1c
totally possible for zywoo to pull off 3x top1 but yeah, vitality must come back to the top for that to happen
2021-06-11 13:34
zywoo doesnt deserve top 1 + vitality is tier 2-3 team(they wont win anything)
2021-06-11 13:37
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#41
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South Africa CRMN1
I think we all know that zywoo doesn't deserve #1 in 2021 (if the year ended now), so that isn't really news to anybody other than hardcore fanboys or super delusional people. What happens on the second semester of the year can (not will) change that completely though.
2021-06-11 14:45
#119
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France poulpup
vitality won their first tournament of 2020 at the end of the year, where they a tier 2/3 team ? no bad b8
2021-06-11 21:32
3 replies
lucky LOL 1 player team doesnt deserve to be exist
2021-06-11 22:31
2 replies
#124
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France poulpup
they're five, just count my friend
2021-06-11 22:42
1 reply
u know what i mean
2021-06-11 22:54
#20
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Poland kruky
If LANs will come in 2nd half of this year and zywoo will go nuclear then he still can get top1 since LAN achievements > Online achievements
2021-06-11 13:37
#21
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United Kingdom JaSeV
as soon as LAN returns the CIS wide peekers will plummet down the ratings
2021-06-11 13:38
no
2021-06-11 13:38
everyone who had to stay silent the last two years is just having the time of their lives making fun of zywoo right now its very entertaining for them
2021-06-11 13:42
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#27
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Denmark pebblez
"having the time of their lives " ? nah, toxic s1mple fans would and will make fun of/insult ZywOo regardless, It's just what they do.
2021-06-11 13:46
Yeah people camping hard just to hate on certain players and push their narrative. I remember seeing device's mediocre stats at the top of r/globaloffensive. I mean yeah interesting thing to point out but massive overreaction to get it to the top. Yekindar is in a bigger slump but no discussion about him
2021-06-11 13:51
1 reply
r/ lol
2021-06-11 14:51
#28
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Norway coneninho
He's better than everyone PRO,he's side by side to S1mple tbh
2021-06-11 13:48
flag checks out.
2021-06-11 13:55
even if zywoo gets top1 5 years in a row, silvers will still try to convince you simple is better OMEGALUL
2021-06-11 13:57
i feel in informs but this year is s1mple
2021-06-11 14:26
yeah he will be atleast top2 in january but already? nah. so far he has only 1 evp
2021-06-11 14:29
I don't understand these wars between s1mple's and zywoo's fans, the're both csgods, just enjoy both lul
2021-06-11 14:32
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zywoo is not close to s1mple rn, he is top 2 tho but winning a couple of events wont be enough rn
2021-06-11 14:47
s1mple has been better individual for 3 years row unluko if he gets robbed again
2021-06-11 14:48
You can say zywoo has better stats as he has played less games all againts worse teams, e.g getting knocked out in groups and last place meaning never playing top 5 teams in the playoffs. Shiro and niko amd other have played alot vs Navi Heroic Gambit, G2 etc top teams so harder to get good stats. I think zywoo is number 2 in terms of skill but as the stats are misleading and in rankings o think he should be like 4th or 5th. But i would have to look into it.
2021-06-11 14:51
The simple fact that people trash zywoo and call him "bot" when he has 1.2 rating against top teams proves how much he's above other players. For any pro players being in the top 3 is a dream, for zywoo being top 2 would be considered as a failure. That's how good he is
2021-06-11 14:51
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+1 the expectation for zywoo is naturally insane. makes sense since it feels like he can win in any situation at times.
2021-06-11 15:08
+1 It's funny that if zywoo and s1mple are not top-fragging in a game (but still doing very good), entire chat starts spamming "zywho" and "s0mple". They are both gods. We should just enjoy till it lasts.
2021-06-11 15:53
#57
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Estonia |imperator
sh1tro is nowhere near top20 tbh
2021-06-11 14:51
#68
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Russia ZsoltBroo
ty vita fanboy vitality wont win shit
2021-06-11 15:35
#70
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Brazil Iurito
At this exactly moment S1mple is top 1, and Zywoo is fighting with Sh1ro (And even maybe with Hobbit and Niko too) for the top 2
2021-06-11 15:41
zywoo is just best player in the world
2021-06-11 15:55
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#126
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Serbia LtN))
I think you misspelled s1mple, Sir
2021-06-11 22:47
You put s1mple under Zywoo this thread will end up deleted by some scummy HLTV admin.
2021-06-11 15:57
#83
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Austria swehy
ZyWHO?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
2021-06-11 15:58
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#105
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United States Rayduh
literally once vitality starts winning games, i can see zywoo being hltv top 1 again... he is scary good
2021-06-11 18:48
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#114
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Austria swehy
thats true bruh
2021-06-11 19:43
s1mple is top1, sh1ro and zywoo is top2
2021-06-11 16:16
sh1ro is not even the best or second best player on his team
2021-06-11 16:25
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#106
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United States Rayduh
but his ratings and stats were good, but now that ax1le and hobbit has MVP, sh1ro should be scared
2021-06-11 18:54
If he will be top 2 this year, he will be the greatest player of all time - he will beat Get_Right and coldzera performances
2021-06-11 18:56
4 replies
why?
2021-06-11 18:59
why?
2021-06-11 19:00
2 replies
top 1 2016, top 1 2017, top 10 2018 - coldzera top 1 2013, top 1 2014, top 11 2015 - get_right top 1 2019, top 1 2020, top 2 2021 - zywoo
2021-06-11 19:57
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#128
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Serbia LtN))
top4 2016, top8 2017, top1 2018, top2 2019, top2 2020 (deserved top1), top1 2021 - s1mple
2021-06-11 22:49
LoL, vitality didn't have a great performance before IEM Summer, they are keeping fighting against some teams with inconsistent performance. Zywoo's stats this year are valueless as they were not having competitive matches tbh in the past few months. The match got rekt by try is very impressive tho.
2021-06-11 19:10
#113
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Other Xeeh
you mean top 1?
2021-06-11 19:14
#116
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Austria Grundz
I don't think people believe Yekindar is better than Zywoo. Also, who cars. No player will enter top 2 other than Zywoo and S1mple. They have both lost to shit teams, but it doesn't even matter.
2021-06-11 19:51
Don't car. Vitality will lose to OG tomorrow
2021-06-11 19:54
zywoo is def top 2. I still think s1mple is better but damn these 2 are insane. insane performance by him. I'm happy that vit is competetive again
2021-06-11 22:48
+1 but i dont think it will happen
2021-06-12 04:09
#134
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Indonesia FinZzz
Sh1ro is so damn overrated. Axile is the true star of gambit
2021-06-12 04:36
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