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Why is everyone hating on the kid as soon as he starts playing bad in his first tier 1 grand final at the age of 17? Bless him
2021-06-13 18:15
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I like Flamez, but I dont like his country
2021-06-13 18:17
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ok but who asked
2021-06-13 18:20
44 replies
Im giving reason as to why people hate him. they probably send hate to him cause of his origin, which is dumb.
2021-06-13 18:21
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#18
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Russia scorchy
then you just called yourself dumb?
2021-06-13 18:22
34 replies
he did yeah
2021-06-13 18:24
? can you read. I said I hate his country but I dont hate him.
2021-06-13 18:25
31 replies
can YOU read what you said? lmfao you actually did call yourself dumb
2021-06-13 18:29
30 replies
? I literally said, I don't like Israel, but I like Flamez. Then I said that people probably hate him because he comes from Israel????
2021-06-13 18:31
28 replies
ok that is enough don't make it worse dummy
2021-06-13 19:02
I'll explain you, first you said "I like Flamez, but I don't like his country" then you said, "I'm giving reason as to why people hate him. they probably send hate to him cause of his origin, which is dumb." both the sentences mean - you don't like his country, and then you said people not liking his origin i.e. his country are dumb. hence, you called yourself dumb. i hope you get it now
2021-06-13 19:32
25 replies
Lol, can you comprehend what i wrote..# "they probably send hate to him cause of his origin, which is dumb." This means that the idea of hating FlameZ solely cause of his origin is dumb. I initially stated that I won't hate FlameZ because of his origin.
2021-06-13 19:38
11 replies
why don't we just let this be as it is
2021-06-13 19:49
10 replies
You got rekt admit it
2021-06-18 12:46
9 replies
+1
2021-06-18 16:38
naah, i rather won't waste my time explaining this to someone who doesn't matter to me. but you are free to assume whatever my friend
2021-06-19 12:19
3 replies
no it's cuz your objectively wrong
2021-06-19 14:00
2 replies
as i said, you are free to assume man, whatever makes you happy
2021-06-19 18:14
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You are wrong, fam. Objectively. Read properly next time.
2021-06-19 20:34
no he didn't lmao, it's just you and that other guy have dogshit reading comprehension
2021-06-19 18:28
3 replies
+1 these people cant speak english, he's saying that hating flameZ because of his country of origin is dumb, not just hating the country
2021-06-19 18:44
lol, you're british and still can't get a grip of your own language
2021-06-20 00:10
1 reply
case in point
2021-06-20 02:58
Sad he can't even reread his own messages and see that. Either very poor English or just high af haha
2021-06-18 09:51
8 replies
Flag checks out Not being fond of person's place of origin =/= hating said person
2021-06-18 10:03
Stfu amerilard Whathe said makes perfect sense. Oyy veyy I can make a kosher guess as to why you're so triggered
2021-06-18 10:04
ahahah english is your first language and you still cant comprehend simple sentences
2021-06-18 12:43
5 replies
bro sometimes its just better to accept that you fucked up instead of defending your completely lost position. you are embarrassing yourself with every comment even more lmao
2021-06-18 16:37
4 replies
prove to me how i am wrong, lmao. i am not
2021-06-18 16:41
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#186
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India daksh29
ur not they are all retarded
2021-06-19 19:26
The people embarrassing themselves are the ones like you, fam. Look up reading comprehension, fam.
2021-06-19 20:36
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aha and im embarrassing myself with what exactly? am i the one with the poor wording? btw including "fam" in every comment makes you look like an idiot aswell
2021-06-20 14:03
#155
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CIS sherzodb
Bro its poorly worded but people with IQ above of the room temperature understood. Dont worry. Average HLTV users be like that
2021-06-18 16:49
2 replies
I agree it is poorly worded, but I doubt people on HLTV attempt to articulate their response in the most coherent manner, cuz its like a meme site with high anonymity
2021-06-18 21:20
+1
2021-06-19 17:52
Improve your reading comprehension, fam.
2021-06-19 20:33
#178
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India V1R33X
I stand with you my friend , your argument is perfectly correct . i dont know why people are ganging up on you.
2021-06-19 18:15
Bro do you have single digit IQ lmao. Fucking dumb ass teenage kids. Just go on tiktok
2021-06-18 10:02
maybe he doesnt send hate though
2021-06-18 16:46
Why would people hate on such a nice country like Israel
2021-06-13 18:34
3 replies
You know that is not the majority opinion
2021-06-13 18:47
#42
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United States gweees
>nice country >Israel pick one
2021-06-13 18:52
1 reply
I pick both, very nice country
2021-06-13 18:59
But you just brought it up great argument lmao
2021-06-13 22:06
2 replies
? wdym
2021-06-13 22:07
1 reply
Basically #57 I read the chain afterwards
2021-06-13 22:08
me :)
2021-06-18 16:38
Same. Can't help but assume that he supports what that Zionist State is doing, currently.
2021-06-13 18:21
1 reply
it's not like both sides of that conflict don't escalate, I'm sure citizens on both sides are sick of assholes shooting rockets and bombs at them, either way he's 17 and a CS pro, it's a stupid assumption.
2021-06-13 18:31
+1
2021-06-13 18:25
he doesnt like his country either
2021-06-14 15:47
+1 Excepted I don't like FlameZ
2021-06-18 10:45
+1
2021-06-19 03:19
idk how so many people are struggling to understand this comment. Maybe it reads weird to non native english speakers?
2021-06-19 17:51
#188
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United States Wafftop
based
2021-06-19 19:32
#3
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Romania Lil_fps
Saw a clip from hltv confirmed with spunj talking about it, how we kill our game because we are a toxic community. Instead of supporting him, he chose cs over valorant, He is one of the bright stars of the game we love, he is the one who builds the future of this game and we just bring him down. This community is the one who kills counter-strike not valorant
2021-06-13 18:17
14 replies
+1111
2021-06-13 18:19
#9
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United States ascendaNt88
spunj can cry me a river
2021-06-13 18:20
9 replies
#12
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Romania Lil_fps
And you can suck a dick, because he is right. Come here with arguments next time if you disagree dickface
2021-06-13 18:20
7 replies
why so mad lol so now we can't judge a player's performance because some aussie dude said that's "toxicity" and "killing the game"? nobody's even hating. literally just a few bot flamez comments on the match page and that's it lmao. that's kinda light on someone single handedly losing the game.
2021-06-13 18:23
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#26
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Romania Lil_fps
It's not about FlameZ hate, it's about the hate in general. As soon as someone reaches the top they are either a fluke or onliners. When a player is good and had a bad final he is named bot x, it's about Only my team is good, the others are bots, my trophy cabinet better than yours rather than enjoying the game, and building on it. This isn't rating a player, it's just idiots happy because somebody fails. It's a community which focuses on the losers rather than the winners, and everybody knows that this mentality never leads to progression
2021-06-13 18:28
2 replies
it's an (e)sport. no shit the community behaves like that. as long as there's competition it'll stay that way.
2021-06-13 18:29
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#38
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Romania Lil_fps
That's the issue, at this rate there will be no competition
2021-06-13 18:40
#189
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United States Wafftop
Lmao being mad on HLTV Get laid
2021-06-19 19:33
2 replies
#192
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Romania Lil_fps
Says the guy looking for nearly a week old thread
2021-06-19 20:29
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#201
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United States Wafftop
and yet here you are Cry about it lmao
2021-06-20 01:39
+1 None of these pros care about fans. They do it for the money And the beta dude spun trying to put a muzzle on the fanbase
2021-06-18 10:06
Israel has no scene in Valorant btw No choice but cs
2021-06-13 19:36
#107
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Finland Ekkkku
+1
2021-06-14 17:39
Cs is dying. 🤔 this again…
2021-06-18 16:39
flam eZ
2021-06-13 18:19
#6
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Denmark pebblez
probably hating on him because he is from Israel, anyways he is 17 years old who played in tier 2, he always played great this tournament before, do they expect him to 30 bomb every map in the grand final?
2021-06-13 18:20
1 reply
??? XD
2021-06-13 18:32
#8
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Nepal sasukeee
yea, he need more T1 experience
2021-06-13 18:20
All the kids talking shit wouldn't even get double digits in 3 maps kekw
2021-06-13 18:20
#13
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Japan pawbeast
Thrash He was picked up to carry And he is a 6th player for gambit dropping 5/20 another map
2021-06-13 18:21
ye he needs more experience but dang he's been having a nightmare series so far
2021-06-13 18:22
just hltv things. nothing new...
2021-06-13 18:25
#25
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Austria Fresinski
To an extent, I can understand why he is getting hate currently. If anything, it is expected to receive such hate. He is supposed to make kills and put in the numbers, but he probably cracked under the pressure. I really hope he will manage to focus and perform well in the next maps.
2021-06-13 18:27
flag
2021-06-13 18:57
stop that he is not kid ... he is 17 !!! ... and no one hates him ...
2021-06-13 19:02
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17 is a kid.
2021-06-18 10:14
he was laughing on camera while going 6-19 or smth maybe thats why ppl feel he doesnt give a fuck or smth since hes getting dat cash
2021-06-13 19:34
22 replies
322 for sure
2021-06-13 19:36
#67
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Switzerland Titan))
flag checks out I'm sure you hate him because he laughed on camera and not because you're from Jordan, yea that seems very likely
2021-06-13 19:40
20 replies
why are you assuming i hate someone because of my origin when you dont know me lmao? Do i hate israel? With all my heart and soul Do i hate flamez? ofc not hes a kid, + this is cs dont get politics involved please if you actually think its totally normal to laugh like that while you have 0.6 rating in a grand final while aleksi and niko or malding idk what to tell you I hope he learns and grows and does well in cologne
2021-06-13 19:46
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#78
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China HEIDASHUAi
+1 keep politics out of esports
2021-06-13 19:52
#81
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Switzerland Titan))
haha ty for proving my point imagine hating a whole country >don't hate flamez >but I'm still going to make up stupid shit because he laughed to justify hate against him (but believe me I don't hate him)
2021-06-13 20:34
17 replies
idc if you believe me or not lmao I hate israel because they threatened to invade jordan smartass. Get educated first then come talk to me. Also dont even get me started on all the shit they do to our neighbours in palestine, if you think thats fine then i refuse to talk to a person that condones child murder. Me not hating flamez is a fact, im in the OG discord which flamez himself is in, we had a chat before and hes a cool kid that you rlly just cant hate. Have a terrible day
2021-06-14 07:55
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#94
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Switzerland Titan))
In that logic, Israelis should hate Jordan(ians) because they tried and failed to invade in 1948, 1967, and a smaller scale in 1973. Al’shukkru-lillah, there is a peace deal between both countries now may there come a greater peace and no more hatred. Instead of increasing hate and anger and violence learn that people on other side are just like you and want peace just like you hating each other is what is stopping a solution for this conflict to be found You are part of the problem
2021-06-14 15:45
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first of all thats not where the hatred between the peoples of israel and jordan started There was once a palestine which was an ally of jordan. They wanted to seperate the country in 2 which the arabs refused since they were promised the land for aiding the brits and leading the great arab revolt. So big boy israel which didnt exist at this point was given an army by the UK and USA and invaded all of palestine. Now since Jordan was an ally of palestine we went to war. Jews lived happily there but whatever. Tbh i dont care if its palestine or israel i just want peace but israel keeps killing arabs who wont get their basic rights after the oslo agreement. For the past 3 years Israel has been threatening to invade jordan and recently (this week) the washington post showed that Israel tried to undermine our king and his position and power in the country. So they are a constant threat to our safety and my livelihood thats why i hate israel
2021-06-14 16:31
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#118
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Switzerland Titan))
let me dissect your response and show you what you got wrong and right; WRONG: > There was once a Palestine which was an ally of Jordan. -->There was never a Palestine, only an Ottoman empire and a British Mandate and a partition plan Palestine (rejected by arab nations) >So big boy Israel which didn't exist at this point --> in the same sentence you contradict yourself. Israel was neither big or strong - it was actually using outdated tanks. You yourself said it didn't exist yet - its army was tiny and vastly outnumbered by the Arabs > was given an army by the UK and USA --> the UK was hostile to Israel in 1948 and did definitely not supply it with arms. The US also didn't supply Israel with arms. rich American Jews did, which was against US law. >invaded all of Palestine --> No. It did not conquer all of Palestine, it conquered a large part of what was supposed to go to the Palestinians in the partition plan >Jews lived happily there but whatever. --> this is a common myth but it's not true. There was a civil war before Israel was established. Its not that hard to learn about it >For the past 3 years Israel has been threatening to invade Jordan --> can you show me a source for that? RIGHT: >They wanted to seperate the country in 2 which the arabs refused since they were promised the land for aiding the brits and leading the great arab revolt. >Now since Jordan was an ally of palestine we went to war --> note: Palestinians were Jordanians originally. Its this conflict that created a separate identity >Tbh i dont care if its palestine or israel i just want peace but israel keeps killing arabs who wont get their basic rights after the oslo agreement. --> its true that too many Palestinians die and its very sad >(this week) the washington post showed that Israel tried to undermine our king and his position and power in the country. --> don't know a lot about this but I do know it wasn't just Israel, it was USA and Saudi Arabia and Netanyahu was involved apparently OTHER: >So they are a constant threat to our safety and my livelihood that's why i hate Israel -->Israel is not a threat to Jordan, There was a peace plan and Israel has never attacked Jordan first. Besides, you once again go back to just hating Israel. How is this productive? And you also didn't respond to this - Do you think Israelis should hate Jordan(ians) because Jordan attacked Israel in 1948, 67 and 73?
2021-06-14 21:11
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#135
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Yugoslavia novuki
Wall of text omg go outside
2021-06-18 10:09
11 replies
#146
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Switzerland Titan))
xaxaxa dont know what to respond ---> attack person if they outside or not lol when u have 0 clue grow up kiddo
2021-06-18 16:32
10 replies
#159
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Yugoslavia novuki
Why yes Israel is not a threat to Jordan when Israel supplies Jordan water thanks to their regional hegemony, who would take you seriously when you barely even know shit about middle eastern politics
2021-06-19 03:18
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#165
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Switzerland Titan))
I completed a university course on the middle east. I know more than you for sure Now tell me more pls kiddo
2021-06-19 17:34
8 replies
#171
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Yugoslavia novuki
pretty sure with that university course of yours is severely lacking due to the fact you overrate Israel as the David of the middle east dichotomy without acknoledging that the entire middle east during the 20th century was a stage for proxy wars between the belligrents of any conflict that occured there, which Israel, had the entirety of the Western world on their side which included material, military and intelligence support your course means jack shit if you unironically think Israel is a valid state considering native Jews in 1800s Ottoman were numbered at around 2% of the population
2021-06-19 17:52
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#174
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Switzerland Titan))
What? where did I say Israel is poor and weak? All I said is that in 1948 Israel could have been annihilated and that back then they did NOT have the backing of the UK, and the backing of the US on a small scale. That war could have gone both ways. It is thanks to arms shipments from some American Jews that Israel was able to survive. Israel is totally a valid state, you have 9 million people living there including 7 millions Jews and around 2M arabs. It is recognized by almost all UN nations except for some Communist and some arab states. What more to be valid? edit: I'd like to add that it wasn't just arms shipments from US jews but also the purchasing of arms from other countries, such as France that helped Israel survive. I would also like to add that I don't know why you are making up stuff that I never said. Its quite funny really
2021-06-19 18:11
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#176
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Yugoslavia novuki
Small support from the US but never actually taking into account the French and West German economic and military support, shows how amazing your university course is 😁😁
2021-06-19 18:12
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#179
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Switzerland Titan))
can u read? lmfao this is ridiculous . I literally wrote that I made a mistake and added France and others. Mate, idk why you want to fight. just calm down and admit that Israel exists and is there to stay. Unless you want to genocide and or send back the 7M jews which live there, which seems to be a common wish among some people.
2021-06-19 18:15
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#181
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Yugoslavia novuki
cmon bro i thought u know shit in the middle east put ur uni course to test
2021-06-19 18:19
#180
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Yugoslavia novuki
Valid state de jure according to some dumb eurocentric organization with the only purpose of maintaining western neocolonial hegemony in the middle east, of course it is valid in the eyes of the west but you cant blame the entirety of the Arab World for seeing Israel as a neo colonial state which is a detriment to the socio cultural athmosphere of thr arab world
2021-06-19 18:18
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#182
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Switzerland Titan))
many buzzwords in here like " neocolonial" and "eurocentric organization" and "hegemony" and " socio-cultural atmosphere" doesn't change the fact that Israel exists, de jure and de facto. And wanting to eliminate it is wrong. I don't blame the Arab world, but I do think it's a mistake.
2021-06-19 18:20
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#184
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Yugoslavia novuki
Well yes neocolonialism is oversimplification of the political landscape in the 70s up until present as Arabs view Secular or Western culture as a detriment to their deontological or legalist worldview (not to mention the dichotomy between Islam and Judaism) UN has always been a eurocentric organization, when have you seen the UN support the Soviets, any Arab state or any enemies of the US and NATO in a conflict? UN supported the Arab spring in the name of "freedom" against tyranny, but they never condemned France's involvement in Libya thanks to well, Oil and the threat of a pan-african organization that has the means to control the continent's economy, free of western influence, which again is a detriment to the west. So no, these words arent just for jargon, it's a clear statement on the political atmosphere on the middle east, limiting these words to mere buzzwords underrate the entire dillema of the middle east.
2021-06-19 18:40
+1261521515
2021-06-18 16:45
Mad people want to hate something.
2021-06-13 19:38
cs community is toxic for some reason, flameZ is a fucking tier1 player and u should respect him, u won't do better kiddos
2021-06-13 19:43
its because he bottom fragged for OG, ppl always find a fault when their team loses so will always blame bottom fragger. ofc flameZ is beast <3
2021-06-13 22:08
#92
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Indonesia lukerey
Bettors mad.
2021-06-14 08:23
This is just the zoomer attitude, a generation brought up by instant gratification. Everything must come instantly, easy, accesible. G2 lose a game? The zoomers instantly come up with the -amanek threads Dexter doesn't have the best performance the 1st month in a new team? BIGGEST MISTAKE EVER WORST IGL Same with Flamez now. They don't understand that good things take time, there will be low points and high points but you gotta stick with it and not expect everything to be perfect from the go.
2021-06-14 16:36
6 replies
#101
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Argentina lechon
+1000 insane
2021-06-14 16:37
#109
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Israel Rea77y
+100000000
2021-06-14 17:40
#110
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Switzerland nierg
Might actually be a good point. But in sports and esports overrall emotions get really high as well, thats why you see stuff like extreme fans in traditional sports. I think the BOT xyz comments are just always a vocal minority trying to be relevant. No sane person would read twitch chat when someone is having a bad day, its just a few trolls in there.
2021-06-14 17:45
#137
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Yugoslavia novuki
Gratification seriously needs to step up
2021-06-18 10:10
+1
2021-06-19 17:56
+1
2021-06-20 00:20
grand final while he's playing online hanging out with his teammates in their office room hahahaha bring back ISSAA and kick this BOT
2021-06-14 16:38
I think it's because he's a jewel
2021-06-14 17:58
6 replies
that needs polishing if you know what i mean
2021-06-14 17:58
5 replies
he needs to become polish, only then he will be fully polished
2021-06-18 09:55
4 replies
#138
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Yugoslavia novuki
polished gold tooth found in an oven 😳
2021-06-18 10:10
2 replies
men???????????????
2021-06-18 10:30
1 reply
#141
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Yugoslavia novuki
yes!!!??
2021-06-18 10:36
maybe he is already partly polish Before WW2 (1939) we had about 3 500 000 jews in Poland. Maybe his ancestors are from Poland))
2021-06-19 19:29
In Germany, people would call you Jew-hater when you flame an Israeli player.
2021-06-14 18:02
1 reply
#153
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Singapore Am2de
Germany based
2021-06-18 16:45
Sure
2021-06-18 06:20
#120
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Asia flameZzZ
stop hating on young talent he just started play on pro scene :(
2021-06-18 09:45
1 reply
0/8
2021-06-18 09:56
I kinda like him, he will surely grow to be a top 10 i believe
2021-06-18 16:49
flameZ very good player, people act like they want ISSA back XDDDD
2021-06-18 21:23
isr*el
2021-06-19 03:22
2 replies
number 1 country
2021-06-20 00:15
1 reply
number 1 delusional
2021-06-20 01:12
#162
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United States Rayduh
He is the reason why OG lost to Gambit, and OG shouldn't be losing to Gambit
2021-06-19 04:09
1 reply
he in one of the main reason that they made this far and it was his first t1 grand final
2021-06-19 19:37
flames taking og at his level, tier 5 kkk
2021-06-19 18:01
i like him, very talented
2021-06-19 19:34
havent really seen his haters anywhere :D
2021-06-20 00:12
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