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Ax1le and ZywOo
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Ukraine echoriz0n 
Tbh Ax1le at this point has more chances to become top-1 HLTV 2021 than ZywOo. Do you believe Mathieu has changes to win enough and get enough mvp medals by the end of the year than Ax1le and s1mple?
2021-06-13 19:37
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#1
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Serbia LtN))
s1mple will be top1 and its not even a battle
2021-06-13 19:38
44 replies
#3
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Denmark pebblez
Gambit players would be fine with that, s1mple can be #1 while Gambit win the events.
2021-06-13 19:38
22 replies
#10
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Serbia LtN))
2021-06-13 19:39
4 replies
#17
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Denmark pebblez
They will, they might not win Cologne but you'll see them still playing like a top 3 team in 25 days. Edit: this is reply to #5
2021-06-13 19:40
#80
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Ukraine Kastrulya
Since sh1ro or ax1le playing like this, there is no chance that mister baitmachine s2mple will be number one Cry is free kid, n0vi and s2mple time is freakin over
2021-06-14 02:08
2 replies
Why are you trying so hard to bait? Even if yoi don't like s1mple, you can't deny obvious facts. Go check s1mple's achievements vs device's achievements in 2019, and see s1mple's ranking. When the rating difference is too high, it won't matter.
2021-06-14 05:09
stop trying to bait you 12yo russian fakeflagger
2021-06-14 11:46
didnt navi 3-0 gambit in dreamhack and didnt navi win the biggest tourney this year
2021-06-13 19:40
11 replies
nt but Gambit have won Katowice
2021-06-13 20:16
10 replies
navi won the biggest still
2021-06-13 20:32
6 replies
Katowice > Blast anyday
2021-06-13 20:33
5 replies
are u dumb
2021-06-13 20:33
4 replies
No he isnt? Katowice is way more prestige than shit blast
2021-06-14 02:21
#97
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Europe Joebama
autistic britbonger
2021-06-14 05:00
Even spring sweet spring > blast
2021-06-14 05:08
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#126
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Serbia LtN))
flair
2021-06-14 20:20
It's not LAN. Last year ESL One Cologne had the same weight has EPL-12, because they were both online. Katowice 2021 doesn't have nearly the same weight has Katowice 2020. And Katowice 2020 doesn't have the same weight has Katowice 2019.
2021-06-13 20:36
2 replies
he said this year. I know that 2020 Kato > 2021 Kato but we are talking about 2021
2021-06-13 20:42
spoken like a true astralis boomer
2021-06-13 20:42
#16
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Sweden GabeM
2021-06-13 19:40
If I were a fan I would rather see navi win important tournaments, they already lived that stage in 2018 against Astralis, who better win tournaments, or it may even be both
2021-06-13 19:43
Well it's 2:2 counting big events only
2021-06-14 02:18
They've won the same amount of events this year though?
2021-06-14 03:05
Gambit and Navi have won the same amount of big tournaments this year. Both have won 1, 1 million dollar tournament and one 250K tournament. But Gambit also won the RMR but it was scuffed as hell
2021-06-14 07:43
+1
2021-06-13 19:39
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#5
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Serbia LtN))
they wont win LANs tho Edit: this is reply to #3
2021-06-13 19:39
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#11
ropz | 
Norway thojo
only time will tell
2021-06-13 19:40
LAN will only change peakers advantage and that will only make Sh1ro time better 👀
2021-06-13 19:42
#66
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World juize
they will tho
2021-06-13 20:19
#79
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United Kingdom Aqishimaaa
classic navi fan excuse
2021-06-14 02:05
He won’t be. Zywoo top 1 3 years in a row
2021-06-13 19:40
4 replies
#30
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Serbia LtN))
keep dreaming
2021-06-13 19:44
1 reply
I don’t have to, it’s the same every year, navi fans all confident in the first parr of the year and then they get smashed at the major and s1mple loses top 1 haha.
2021-06-13 20:13
I'm a Zywoo fan but unless Vitality actually does something at the major (and it's French CS so I'm not getting my hopes up), then he's almost definitely not getting #1 again. If things don't change a lot in the next year, it'll be s1mple or a Gambit player.
2021-06-14 05:04
hltv.org/stats?startDate=2021-01-01&endD.. Also, Navi played better at the end of 2019 than the beginning, the only thing that killed Navi in 2020 was the switch to online.
2021-06-14 05:15
cant wait for lan again lmao all the navi fanboys when onliner s1mple cant bajt enough to get 25 kills xaxaxaxa
2021-06-13 20:13
7 replies
#62
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Serbia LtN))
imagine calling the best player in the world onliner
2021-06-13 20:14
6 replies
only good during the online era
2021-06-13 20:17
5 replies
#69
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Serbia LtN))
Name checks out I didn't see it before somehow
2021-06-13 20:33
In one year alone, s1mple played 10 LAN GrandFinals, won 4 big LAN events + 6 LAN MVPs + 4 LAN EVPs + Esports player of the year award + world-record for highest individual performance in all of Tier1 CSGo history, on LAN. Edit: Didn't notice name lol. Name checks out so hard.
2021-06-13 20:39
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#86
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Baiters don't note this unfortunately.
2021-06-14 02:23
2 replies
So you didn't notice?
2021-06-14 06:10
1 reply
I am not a baiter, friend.
2021-06-14 12:37
#84
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
+1
2021-06-14 02:22
agreed bro
2021-06-14 04:58
#2
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Sweden GabeM
Debatable. One thing is for sure and thats sh1ro is not the best gambit player.
2021-06-13 19:38
24 replies
#7
nafany | 
Russia Danzo
not even top-2 i guess
2021-06-13 19:39
1 reply
+1
2021-06-13 19:48
+1
2021-06-13 19:39
Why sh1ro so hated? He pkays a teamplay game and ofc it includes baits. He does what is needed for Gambit arent he?
2021-06-13 19:40
16 replies
dk why sh1ro is hated a lot, but ax1le is better than him
2021-06-13 19:42
because he is getting too overhyped. Some people are trying to put him in the same level as s1mple and ZywOo, but he clearly isn't as good
2021-06-13 19:43
5 replies
-5
2021-06-13 19:46
4 replies
#85
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
-1
2021-06-14 02:23
2 replies
wtf gjskgjıskodsf -15
2021-06-14 18:58
1 reply
#124
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
its ghcnvbkn, ok? >:(
2021-06-14 19:03
-1
2021-06-14 03:18
people is calling him best player in the world and best player in gambit, and thats is not true tahts why everybody hates him, HE IS A DECENT PLAYER IN A GOOD TEAM, when the team not performing look at sh1ro stats below 1 rating he doesn t have a godlike mode like s1mple or zywoo
2021-06-13 19:44
4 replies
Thats because sh1ro plays with more teamplay, he mostly covers his teammates and gives flashes, his role is more like Jame's and not s1mple's In other words sh1ro sets up his team, s1mple's team sets up for him
2021-06-13 20:09
3 replies
S1mple and sh1ro both have 0.82 flashes thrown per round. Seems like there's a myth going on that s1mple never buys nades, lets his whole team go first and trade them with awp. Also if u wanna give hard role excuse to somebody that's gotta be hobbit, dude is a B player and has stats this high that's crazy
2021-06-14 02:43
2 replies
he was b anchor only on train no?
2021-06-14 03:00
1 reply
Overpass inferno also I think
2021-06-14 11:38
#29
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Sweden GabeM
Not hating. Saying that another player is better than another player is not hating.
2021-06-13 19:44
1 reply
+1
2021-06-13 19:48
not hated just isnt top2 gambit players
2021-06-13 19:48
Because his opening kill stat is abysmal and his deaths per round stat puts Jame to shame
2021-06-14 12:40
#24
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Argentina atriX^
Definitely not. Look at this: hltv.org/stats/players/16920/sh1ro?event.. 1.28 rating, 1.14 impact rating. Meanwhile: hltv.org/stats/players/16555/ax1le?event..
2021-06-13 19:43
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#54
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Brazil sidgalo
Why does this happen? hltv.org/stats/players/16555/ax1le?start.. hltv.org/stats/players/16555/ax1le?start.. I always manage to find multiple stats pages, with different information in HLTV. What happens men?
2021-06-13 20:06
2 replies
first one is stats for IEM Summer second one is stats for 2021
2021-06-14 19:00
1 reply
#125
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Brazil sidgalo
Thanks, you are a good mate!
2021-06-14 20:18
#6
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Nepal sasukeee
Gambit still need to beat Navi, the current roaster has only won once against Simple and Co.
2021-06-13 19:39
5 replies
? They were 3:0 in series wins against Na'Vi before DH final.
2021-06-13 19:41
4 replies
#28
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Russia Ozice
But there was flamie, not b1t
2021-06-13 19:44
#38
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Nepal sasukeee
my mistake fckkkk
2021-06-13 19:52
1 reply
+EPL and DH group stage
2021-06-13 19:48
I think he means with B1T as a permanent 5th
2021-06-13 19:47
#8
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Ukraine McSwell
Idk I thought zywoo would statpad mvps in rmr events and tournaments like this ended today, but he still got 0 of them. Probably LAN return can change something.
2021-06-13 19:40
s1mple's rating is just way too ahead of Ax1le and sh1ro. Also, since LANs are coming up, there's practically no way this happens. Gambit players will need at least a couple tournaments to get used to LAN.
2021-06-13 19:40
7 replies
I just realized Ax1le has equalized individual awards with s1mple: 2 MVPs and 3 EVPs
2021-06-13 19:42
5 replies
Ax1le is technically ahead in achievements. Both have 2 MVPs + 3 EVPs, but Ax1le has 4 tournament victories, and 3 of them are MVP-based.
2021-06-13 19:44
4 replies
Yeah. But the statistical difference is so big that a lead in achievements shouldn't matter.
2021-06-13 19:49
4 events??
2021-06-14 03:20
2 replies
I think he meant Pinnacle Cup 2021, IEM Katowice 2021, EPIC League RMR, IEM Summer 2021. 3 of these were MVP-based.
2021-06-14 05:07
1 reply
Ye I think HLTV only cares about big events and RMRs. Pinnacle was a tier 2-3 event hence why it isn't shown as a trophy on Gambits team profile and the RMRs competitive integrity was compromised from the beginning. So I'd say they're even on achievements rn
2021-06-14 07:22
#45
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Argentina atriX^
Well, Cologne is a studio event which means no crowd so players don't have the pressure of having 10000 people looking at them.
2021-06-13 19:50
#19
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Estonia thisba!tes
Ax1le cosplay ZywOo with legendary: 'i don't know' 🤣
2021-06-13 19:41
sh0ro top 1 we don't talk about zywoo
2021-06-13 19:41
#31
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Brazil Bactuga
stop making #1 HLTV threads, its most likely gonna be whoever wins the major mvp
2021-06-13 19:44
2 replies
I dont think that magisk is going to be top 1
2021-06-13 20:19
1 reply
#70
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Brazil Bactuga
What i mean is, whoever does better/gets the mvp on the major (S1mple Zywoo Shiro etc) will most likely win it
2021-06-13 20:33
Ax1le is in insane form. Not only his mechanics, but his timings are ridiculous. He just dry pushes and gets two.
2021-06-13 19:45
#34
nilo | 
Sweden caijen
zywoo washed nowadays axile #1 s1mple #2 #3 zywoo
2021-06-13 19:45
2 replies
#72
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Austria arngnr
washed player still top rated player of the tournament kekw
2021-06-13 20:35
1 reply
#78
nilo | 
Sweden caijen
he washed thats it
2021-06-14 02:04
#35
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United Kingdom TheWaddler
It really depends on stockholm, if Zywoo carries Vitality to a major then he could still win no 1. If Gambit win the major and Axile is the MVP then he should be no 1. If NaVi win then it'll probably be simple.
2021-06-13 19:46
Zywoo has 0 chances. They didn't make a single final this year
2021-06-13 19:46
5 replies
There're still quite a few tournaments left though
2021-06-13 19:57
4 replies
He has to win at least 3 to outdo Ax1Le, sh1ro, s1mple and Jame, basically all relevant tournaments this year
2021-06-13 20:03
3 replies
But s1mple has 2 wins, 2 MVPs, so ZywOo need 2 MVPs and good rating to catch up. Unless s1mple wins some more tournaments of course
2021-06-13 20:05
2 replies
No, just 2 MVPs are not enough. He also needs at least 2 tournament wins
2021-06-13 20:05
1 reply
I guess, it's gonna be very hard for zywoo and I hope that s1mple will show his best performance in next events too.
2021-06-13 20:07
now is half of the year, if ZywOo wanna be top 1, he must instantly win some tournaments = get MVPs and s1mple with Ax1Le must fuck up, but that wont happen probably :/
2021-06-13 19:59
1 reply
#74
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Austria arngnr
Ax1le is not even close to being top2... 1.16 rating against top 20 teams this year, ZywOo 1.29
2021-06-13 20:38
#48
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United States Rayduh
S1mple top 1 guaranteed
2021-06-13 19:59
#50
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Montenegro IzAlaN
zywoo 2 times #1 the rest is shit
2021-06-13 20:03
#51
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Canada DeFeCtO_
It's s1mple, other people aren't even close
2021-06-13 20:04
I respect riflers more than awpers cause awping naturally boosts stats so for me axile true top 1 If s1mple was a pure rifler his stats wouldn't be this high
2021-06-13 20:07
2 replies
Since Guardian joined in 2019, till he left, s1mple's average was 1.28 rating with 1.34 impact. So, you're incorrect, in the sense that his stats would still be quite high, just not 1.35 or so.
2021-06-13 20:13
1 reply
>you're incorrect, in the sense that his stats would still be quite high, just not 1.35 or so. And that's exactly what I said, very erudite indeed lol
2021-06-14 06:35
awp abuser shouldn't be the best player
2021-06-13 20:08
2 replies
These comments frighten me.
2021-06-14 05:11
1 reply
Truth frightens you? Awping boosts your stats that's a common knowledge
2021-06-14 06:36
#81
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United Kingdom Aqishimaaa
i hope ax1le can keep his insane form up, would be a fresh change for once if a player like him can top the rankings. right now i think he deserves it most,
2021-06-14 02:08
#87
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Way too soon to tell and we will need to see how Gambit fair with LAN events returning soon. If Gambit keep up this form all year, then Top 3 is completely possible for Ax1Le/sh1ro.
2021-06-14 02:26
#90
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Austria arngnr
top 1 with 1.16 rating against top 20, yeah no I don't think so
2021-06-14 03:02
5 replies
*while rifling Seriously I don't understand how people don't understand that awpers have thier ratings inflated cause they awp. Jesus
2021-06-14 06:37
4 replies
Even if he understood that, it doesn't make a difference to his point, that with 1.16 rating ax1le won't be Top1. HLTV Rankings don't care that he is a rifler. In fact, almost no ranking in any sport considers roles. What matters are your stats and achievements, regardless of how you got those stats and achievements. For example, Astralis (TSM) used to choke before Gla1ve and zonic came in, and then they won 13 LANs out of 15 LAN Finals in 2018, with his ground-breaking strats. The way gla1ve played implied he wouldn't have best stats, but he was the most/2nd-most valuable player on Astralis, imho. HLTV Rankings don't consider that he had low stats because he was IGL.
2021-06-14 08:07
#120
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Austria arngnr
And that matters because? #112 is spot on
2021-06-14 15:10
2 replies
It matters cause for us the viewer who are aware that 1.30+ stats are inflated due to awping can't know for sure who are actually mechanically the best players
2021-06-14 15:16
1 reply
#128
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Austria arngnr
No idea what you're trying to say. 1) Nobody cares about what we, the viewers, think. 2) So fucking old to cry "AWP abuser". Noone gives a shit. Impact matters. Noone cares with which weapon. Give Ax1le an AWP and he couldn't produce the same results either.
2021-06-15 16:01
Interesting to see what top 20 looks like without awpers, people judging players with "rating versing top 10 teams" Awpers have such inflated stats especially when their team keeps dropping them awps on shitty buy rounds Zywoo/s1mple/device removed and we can see a ax1le/hunter/konfig version
2021-06-14 03:17
#95
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United States PP_Bizon
I don't think ax1le will be top 1 hltv, his role just doesn't allow him to be in that position if you look at all the previous years of hltv top20.
2021-06-14 03:37
s1mple has a better chance than both of them, idk if you forgot because Navi didn't play at this event, but he is clearly the most dominant player so far this year. Navi has been playing equally as good as all top teams except Gambit, except s1mple is performing far better than all Gambits stars.
2021-06-14 05:09
Zywoo at the moment is probably hanging by a thread in top 5, assuming he has not already fallen in top 10. He has time to recover but Vitality and Zywoo need to do one heck of a job in the remaining T1 tournaments (especially the major) to make a case for themselves.
2021-06-14 07:25
axile has only been playing as good as he has been for the past 30 days whereas half of the year has finished where he hasn't played TOO good although he was still above avg. unless zywoo and s1mple stop playing cs i don't think ax1le will get top 2, maybe top 5.
2021-06-14 08:17
#115
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
Zywoo top 2 player rn, Ax1le - top 5-8
2021-06-14 11:43
#119
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Europe dioio
he's not even the best gambit player
2021-06-14 12:41
1 reply
He actually is. Maybe its 50/50 with hobbit
2021-06-14 20:21
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