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Both M4's suck
syrsoN | 
Germany Termodynamicslad 
You fellas can keep debating about m4a4 and m4a1-S but the true redpilled truth is that both weapons are trash. A4 is an unreliable piece of garbage, rate of fire? Pfft, have you seen it's spray pattern? The first 8 bullets look like a straight line, except it isn't, the bullets wiggle left and right, not noticeable on close range, but on mid-long range it's very noticeable, if you don't dink you always need to unload a mag until bast bullet 10 to start killing things. Just compare with the ak47, first five bullets a straight line down, bullets 6-8 a straight diagonal line. A1-S is just slightly better in the spray, but sucks hard because of tiny ROF, like nice that you'll hit all your shots, but you'll die before doing anything other than a headshot. True CT weapon is AUG, now that's a weapon with a reliable spray and that does actual damage. Just bow down to AUG supremacy. Gun so solid you don't even need to spray, shooting 6 bullets is a kill confirm, after using it time and time again you know exactly that the enemy died before he even dies just by the number of shots. Appreciate AUG, hate M4, all my homies hat the m4
2021-06-13 23:40
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#1
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Finland Cucumber))
AUG MASTER RACE
2021-06-13 23:40
#2
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Netherlands Tropi_NL
maybe learn how to control your spray
2021-06-13 23:40
7 replies
The m4 spray wiggles left and right, it's as inconsistent as the late ak47 spray. I ain't putting RNG on my shots, there is already spread on that, thanks.
2021-06-13 23:41
4 replies
that is because you are silver and don't know how to control it
2021-06-14 01:05
RNG xDDDDDD PROBABLY RANKED UP TO MG AND THINKS HE IS PRO PLAYER XXXDDDDDDD
2021-06-14 06:18
1 reply
Malding because 98 in 4. Bro you can use your m4 if you want to, i am just using the better gun. HF
2021-06-14 17:16
#79
brax | 
Other damnum
Git gud hu........
2021-06-14 09:06
#43
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
+1
2021-06-13 23:57
+1
2021-06-14 09:37
0/8
2021-06-13 23:40
#4
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Austria Grundz
I aren't think that.
2021-06-13 23:41
#5
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Myanmar roye
ok are you trying to say you going to beat niko in m4 1x1 fight? because you claim its not reliable.
2021-06-13 23:41
6 replies
If you get headshots any weapon is good. I would get bodied by any pro using a deagle, but that doesn't mean that the deagle is a reliable weapon for overall gameplay, right?
2021-06-13 23:42
5 replies
#50
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Myanmar roye
its kinda reliable though on 0 lag 360hz and lot of skill could make this more deadly than ak because you really can run around more with this gun... but it gets tricky when other pros learn pattern of shooting so they know which bullet is a joke distraction so you can die pretty easy also noticed many pros abuse smgs so its not perfect all around weapon this deagle of course i personally would suggest abuse deagle if you have good system, because you wanna cry when pp bison does 3 headshots and 33 damage :D better just tap and pray with deag
2021-06-14 00:33
deagle first bullet accuracy is absolutely insane
2021-06-14 00:41
3 replies
#57
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United States hurbok
mfw i stand still and shoot the deag at someone point blank while someone can no scope me midair
2021-06-14 01:02
But if you miss... oof. It's not easy.
2021-06-14 06:18
1 reply
if miss then ez crouch spam. deagle is way too strong for a 700 dollar gun :D
2021-06-14 18:47
wdym M4A4 bestest
2021-06-13 23:41
3 replies
98 in 4 after 10 bullets. 8/8 solid gun. AUG -> 6 bullets, DEAD
2021-06-13 23:43
2 replies
learn to spray then. seriously. I started with AUG, then A1-S, then moved to A4. It just takes time to get down. Crouch and tap at long ranges. There is a case for the AUG, but now I can't spray the thing and am much more consistent with a M4A4 than the AUG. Idk how you can miss 6 rounds when you essentially have to pull down for the first 10.
2021-06-14 01:08
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This is false. The first 8 bullets wiggle, the recoil is not a straight line. Bullets 6-7 go to the right, bullet 8 to the left. This is a small variation, but is significant in mid range fights. Compare this with the AK, who has a perfectly straight recoil lines until bullet 11. I already know how to spray with both m4's and the AUG, and the AUG is just better. More consistent lower TTK. By the way you don't even need to spray with the AUG.
2021-06-14 02:34
AUG damage is worse than A4
2021-06-13 23:42
8 replies
It isn't, AUG base damage is higher and you can kill in 4 shots, the A4 only kills in 4 shots if all 4 are stomach and in close range. Remember 98 in 4?
2021-06-13 23:44
3 replies
A4 base damage is 33, AUG base damage 28 however, AUG's penetration is 90%, and the A4 is 70%
2021-06-13 23:45
2 replies
You got the drill, the aug in the end still does more damage because of m4's garbage penetration.
2021-06-13 23:47
1 reply
true
2021-06-13 23:47
only against unarmored players.
2021-06-13 23:45
3 replies
nvm
2021-06-13 23:46
2 replies
no wtf are you drunk?
2021-06-13 23:47
1 reply
i realized my mistake
2021-06-13 23:48
ok but galil bestest
2021-06-13 23:43
1 reply
lol Galil lowkey > m4.
2021-06-14 00:00
M249 users rise up
2021-06-13 23:43
2 replies
M249 masterace let's go
2021-06-14 18:41
1 reply
+1111 😎
2021-06-14 20:25
"A4 is an unreliable piece of garbage, rate of fire? Pfft, have you seen it's spray pattern? The first 8 bullets look like a straight line, except it isn't, the bullets wiggle left and right, not noticeable on close range, but on mid-long range it's very noticeable, if you don't dink you always need to unload a mag until bast bullet 10 to start killing things. Just compare with the ak47, first five bullets a straight line down, bullets 6-8 a straight diagonal line." sounds like an excuse to not spend 1hr a day on recoil control "A1-S is just slightly better in the spray, but sucks hard because of tiny ROF, like nice that you'll hit all your shots, but you'll die before doing anything other than a headshot." Which is why you only use A1-S if your position involves being around smokes. e.g. Ivy on CT Vertigo, short on DD2, etc
2021-06-13 23:43
5 replies
Do you try to control the recoil perfectly on the AK 47 late recoil: The one that keeps wiggling left and right? Total RNG, sorry but no. The m4a4 is worse because it's the very first bullets, like fuck you they are the most important.
2021-06-13 23:46
4 replies
"sorry but no." Yes. Yes i do.
2021-06-13 23:52
3 replies
Have fun with your 98 in 4. Me me get first bullet headshot on close range, and massive accuracy on long range. Keep using worse gun, go use FAMAS, go use p250 on gun rounds. Btw the p250 on close range does more damage than the M4 hahaahahhahaahhaha
2021-06-13 23:53
2 replies
How many hours do you have?
2021-06-13 23:53
1 reply
About 2100
2021-06-13 23:55
#14
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Brazil Bactuga
Use the Famas then.
2021-06-13 23:44
3 replies
Famas is not even in the game. It's an illusion, they give you a corngun in focebuys.
2021-06-13 23:45
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#21
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Brazil Bactuga
awp.
2021-06-13 23:46
1 reply
Sorry, but it's a scrub gun. I use AUG, all my homies use AUG too.
2021-06-13 23:48
#25
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Ireland Sodaking
as a guy who's used the AUG since 2017 rn it's a case of for range AUG ftw but the closer you are the better one of the m4s are but never underestimate the power of the ranged scoped in Aug or Kreig
2021-06-13 23:48
1 reply
I ain't need no scope bother. AUG is better than M4 even without the scope. Close range? Run that bitch down and do 100 head damage. Or just go for 4 bodyshots. The m4 requires 5.
2021-06-13 23:49
Aug is the answer AUG RELIGION
2021-06-13 23:48
Aug gang 😎😎
2021-06-13 23:53
All your homies are bad at counterstrike then
2021-06-13 23:53
3 replies
Mad cuz 98 in 4.
2021-06-14 00:07
2 replies
Yeah, that's you. You're the one complaining
2021-06-14 09:34
1 reply
I am not complaining, i am stating HARD FACTS. M4's suck, thats the truth. AUG best.
2021-06-14 17:20
No. You have bad aim, braindead player, t-rex hands, you suck. Have a nice day.
2021-06-13 23:54
2 replies
Me have no bad aim, because me use AK47 bestest weapon ez one taps ez spray (actual spray). The m4 just fucking suck. CT->AUG, T-> AK47. EZ GAME gg
2021-06-13 23:56
Aug is literally a better rifle than m4 unless you're against an eco
2021-06-14 06:26
M4a4 so good mens! Love to spray with it
2021-06-13 23:54
maybe ur just a gold nova?
2021-06-13 23:55
6 replies
Triggered because i called a gun bad. Go there play with worse gun. Hunter, Elige, S1mple all use AUG.
2021-06-13 23:57
5 replies
Because in certain situations, the AUG's upsides are worth it over the M4s, or their downsides are essentially moot. The advantages of the AUG are good spray, good damage, and range. The downsides are long-ass reloads and the slower ROF in comparison to the A4. Pick your map, figure out where the M4s are good, and where the AUG is better. The AUG's '100 damage HS' is also pointless. The Five-seveN and Tec 9 can onetap at a longer range than the AUG. Better to just use a M4 if you're hunting someone.
2021-06-14 01:19
4 replies
The reload time is hardly a factor unless you are a dude that likes to spam smokes for some reason, or is trying to fight 3+ T's alone. The ROF is a non-factor because it kills with 4 bullets to the chest. Same as the AK, nobody says that the AK's ROF is a problem. The M4's to me are just fodder, i buy them when i don't have money for AUG, when the money comes, i drop m4 to teammate and buy aug.
2021-06-14 02:36
3 replies
The AK can onetap at any range. The AUGs onetap is at a range where a Zeus would function similarily. The AUG is also more expensive. I'd only buy AUGs when I need the flexibility to engage in both long and short range engagements, because money for utility. Otherwise, the M4s are more flexible in terms of medium range fights, which is where the majority of fights will take place. The A4's 'wiggle' when spraying is only apparent when you start to get into the rifle's accuracy falloff, and at that point, just tap. The AUG is good if you want to secure more consistent kills with sprays at range or challenge an AWP. Otherwise, the M4s still have their place as weapons that are good at mid to long range, more so in the case of the A1-S, which places a higher emphasis on first shot accuracy.
2021-06-14 03:00
2 replies
The aug is literally only $200 more expensive. You'll only be missing a single flashbang, and thats in the case were you are so dead on into saving the exact same amount of money as you do with an m4. The wiggle is apparent on mid ranges already, try it for yourself on an empty server. And tapping with an m4 will only get you killed by the guy spraying with the ak. First shot accuracy of m4a1-s and M4A4 are very similar. Difference is tighter spray patter for a1S and less damage falloff.
2021-06-14 06:16
1 reply
s1mple plays the A1s
2021-06-14 18:55
average 88 damage in 4 hits user
2021-06-13 23:55
1 reply
Yes m4 users do 88 in 4 all the time. Like 4 chest shots. Sadge. AUG 100 in 4
2021-06-13 23:56
i would argue that you're bad if you don't think the m4's are good. every pro (u said oh but hunter elige s1mple dont use it, not true, they use m4 consistently as well and as masterful at it) uses it and it's the meta if m4's were bad, no one would use them
2021-06-13 23:59
1 reply
Bro people use m4a1-S even though it objectively does less DPS. Pros have insane aim and game sense, they just need an usable gun to hit heads. In pro games someone gets the M4, either they get the dink or they just unload fucking 12 bullets on only one guy. Wtf is in that gun? Popcorn? Elige is clean with the AUG, he just goes like five shots pew pew, dead.
2021-06-14 00:03
yes but a1-s is pure trash
2021-06-14 00:00
1 reply
Yea m4a4 > m4a1S but a polished turd is still a turd.
2021-06-14 00:04
#51
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Myanmar roye
aug can be really bad weapon like it does no damage sometimes it runs out of bullets reload times are bad i think
2021-06-14 00:35
nt Elige alt
2021-06-14 00:35
based and redpilled post, i've been using the aug whenever i have the chance to and it's crazy good
2021-06-14 00:37
Agree, eventually pros will pick up like they did with SG until it gets nerfed)
2021-06-14 00:38
#56
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United States Rayduh
AUG is so expensive though, I don't have $3300 every round plus armor/utility Sorry I'm using M4 to save 200
2021-06-14 01:01
4 replies
It's exactly $200 more. Many people accept to pay $200 more for the A4 saying it's "the better gun" when speaking about the m4a1-s. So i say the same, i pay $200 more to get the better gun. And economy management can get around that, after all, people buy awps+ util
2021-06-14 02:38
3 replies
usp costs 200 but usp is also free at the beginning of the round so if you buy aug over m4 its the price of usp which at the start of rounds is free so the price of augs is the same as m4
2021-06-14 02:40
It's meant to be a tradeoff. Do you prioritize yourself over the win? The A1-S, A4, and AUG are on a scale of cost, overall effectiveness, and utility. The A1-S rewards good aim with the capacity to purchase more utility or a kit and giving you a lack of tracers. The A4 is a balance of all things. The AUG focuses on your performance. You're paying more to rely on your aim overall. Which is why most discussion focuses around the A4 and A1-S. The game is played for the team, and the AUG prioritizes individual performance. It's bought when people know that they are in circumstances that require it's purchase, it's last round, or they're AWPing and want to have util over the AWP. There's the answer essentially. AUG > M4's in terms of performance, but M4s>AUG when playing for the team.
2021-06-14 03:13
1 reply
I don't know how you can "AWP for the team" but can't AUG for the team. For sure you can save $200 more to get a full set of utility, kit, armor and an AUG, like you obviously can with an AWP.
2021-06-14 06:11
#58
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United States hurbok
noooo you don’t understand it has to be balanced to make it fair for the terrorists who can full buy after pistol by getting a bomb plant
2021-06-14 01:03
Big percent true
2021-06-14 01:12
if m4 is bad how can this clip happen? 0/8 youtu.be/VOwlfCsvdwg
2021-06-14 02:38
2 replies
Are you trying to promote the m4 or not? Get right just unloaded a full mag to kill one guy lol. Plus, this is old m4a1-s, with silencer AND 667 ROF But, in any case. I guess FAMAS is a very good gun because of this clip: youtube.com/watch?v=Q3B-jalTtbs
2021-06-14 02:51
1 reply
2021-06-14 03:12
SCAR 20 MASTER RACE
2021-06-14 06:20
Dude the m4a4 is so fucking easy to control it goes to the right a little at the beginning then u slowly pull left it’s not just straight down. It is so consistent
2021-06-14 06:32
3 replies
Nope. It starts kind of straight until bullet 5, then left for bullets 6-7, then right for bullets 8-11, then hard left. The consistency only starts on bullet 8 and beyond, thats late as fuck.
2021-06-14 17:18
2 replies
idk man it is easier than aug for me. I needa use the aug more tho especially on train and d2
2021-06-14 18:04
1 reply
RIP de_train. Rest in pepperoni. Learn ancient. Very green map
2021-06-14 18:10
u mean u sucK?
2021-06-14 09:46
4 replies
I mean i kill people with 4 body shots while you will be crying when an AK kills you and you did 88-98 in 4.
2021-06-14 17:19
3 replies
i will edshot idijiiot
2021-06-14 17:35
2 replies
edshot? Then deagle>m4. Deagle 1 shot redshot, m4 89 in headshot lol.
2021-06-14 17:45
1 reply
yes its overpowered ofcourse but also it has 2 shot kill thats too OP
2021-06-14 18:36
0/8
2021-06-14 09:55
I just use m4a1-s and aug.
2021-06-14 09:56
#86
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Czech Republic Poloolpp
based
2021-06-14 17:18
i like A1-s the most, only really use aug when i'm gonna play a long ranged angle, i see your point but the m4s are not bad, aug slighty better yes, but not so much that it makes a massive difference
2021-06-14 17:20
cs m4 < fortnite m4
2021-06-14 17:50
m4a4 has easy spray pattern
2021-06-14 17:51
SCAR-20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2021-06-14 18:42
I fucking hate the m4 The spray is shit, no 1-shot headshot, expensive as fuck It's barely better than the galil
2021-06-14 18:42
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#102
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Myanmar roye
both m4 are likes 10x better than galil, galil is just similiar to negev, like you could hold angle with galil for one kill two kills not so much if enemies are real and have ak
2021-06-14 18:50
i don't know how you get 98 in 4 with m4(and i never understood the 98 in 4 argument), you have to aim at the head and if you miss the head you hit chest, not fucking stomach xddd edit : 88 in 4 is kinda relatable tho, but still if u miss head u deserve to lose aim duel
2021-06-14 20:35
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