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High ping = advantage
Sweden YeLLonEt 
Is it just me or do players with relativly high ping, 30-60 ms or so have an advantage in this game? For me it's really starting to annoy me how much of an advantage these players have over me in DM. Usually I have 5-9 ms ping in a DM and it's very consistent that I have a much harder time to hit players with this higher ping, while they seem to have a much easier time to hit me. I've no problems at all with players of 20 ms or lower ping (in terms of hitreg or peeking and such) When I try to kill these players my shots doesn't seem to register nearly enough as well as on players with 20 ms or lower ping. Also there seems to be a huge peeking advantage for the high ping players against me as I many time have literally no time to react when they peek before I get hit or killed. It seems as prefire many times which it can't be that often. Either my settings are fudged or this is actually how Valve have designed the game... cl_interp "0" cl_interp_ratio "1"
2021-06-14 14:06
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Finland itsRolezki
1-85 ping is the same
2021-06-14 14:08
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Why?
2021-06-14 14:10
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Finland itsRolezki
Because as long as there isn't any packet loss etc, you won't notice a difference until you start to reach 95 ping
2021-06-14 14:14
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That's just you saying that... do you have any technical insight as to why you think this is so?
2021-06-14 14:15
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high ping on default settings is bad
2021-06-14 14:16
loooool ofc ofc
2021-06-14 14:21
just shut up xd
2021-06-14 14:29
30-40% packet loss is instant rematch
2021-06-14 14:38
Human eye can’t see more than 85 ms
2021-06-14 14:17
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but you can still feel the difference, wtf does this prove?
2021-06-14 14:21
most retarded thing I’ve ever read wtf? absolutely not it is not the same !!!
2021-06-14 14:22
IMO I anything 0-60 is perfectly playable for me, at around 70 I start to notice it, and above that I will start to play visibly worse
2021-06-14 14:37
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United States sen0r_vac
you have some advantages but also big disadvantage with high ping. I use this to my advantage despite the disadvantage.
2021-06-14 14:12
2 replies
+1
2021-06-14 14:22
+1 sen0r_vac top 1 online playor
2021-06-14 14:35
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Belgium lil_vodka
Swedish internet goddamnit
2021-06-14 14:15
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Russia ErleN_
he is just close to the server
2021-06-14 14:42
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Belgium lil_vodka
typical for Sweden most of the people live in the south
2021-06-14 14:43
Not the first time I've heard of ~60 ping being optimal on quake engine games, I did read the source engine hitreg/lag compensation documentation once and I didn't specifically see anything about higher ping advantage. The advantage you described does make sense to exist tho. BTW above maybe 30 or so ping players use cl_interp_ratio 2, I believe because it sort of amplifies the "peeker's advantage"
2021-06-14 14:16
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Yeah, this is what I'm thinking as well. It equates to the player with higher ping having a longer time to react in a sense as they are lagging behind and can then "alter" what happened compared to what the lower ping player saw.
2021-06-14 14:20
This is correct, but the disadvantage is that whoever peaks you has now also the same benefit of amplifying the peekers advantage. Meaning it can be an advantage if you're an aggressive player, but it's going to be disadvantage to more passive players.
2021-06-14 14:52
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Italy I_like_csgo
I mean you can abuse higher pings by being the one always peeking, not holding angles, etc. You can certainly make it into an advantage if you know what you are doing
2021-06-14 14:17
You silvers will make any excuse to justify losing
2021-06-14 14:17
8 replies
+1
2021-06-14 14:20
The fact that the peaker advantage is higher with higher ping is True tho
2021-06-14 14:22
6 replies
You get "high" ping you will cry oh no I have high ping. You get low ping you cry oh no enemies have high ping.
2021-06-14 14:25
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That's the logic of having both advantages and disadvantages, nobrain polak
2021-06-14 14:26
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That's the logic of crying silver
2021-06-14 14:27
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not even silver lul
2021-06-14 14:27
2 replies
Ok, sorry global elite 3
2021-06-14 14:29
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4*
2021-06-14 14:29
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Sweden Vidderitt
30-60 ms "high ping" lol my average is around 80. I would say that there is no difference from 1 ms to like 90 ms.
2021-06-14 14:21
Yes gambot got to good abusing this.
2021-06-14 14:21
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There could be some truth to that, I would assume that the teams get on a server with similar ping for both teams, but generally it will be a lot higher than LAN, so the CIS teams may well have much more experience playing on high ping.
2021-06-14 14:24
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Korea pen_pen
>30~60 >high ping are you kidding me
2021-06-14 14:23
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30 is like medium for me 50-70 is high 5-20 is low. i just hate playing on 70 ping
2021-06-14 14:25
Comparatively. 60 is 12 times higher than 5 for example.
2021-06-14 14:26
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Europe Ufasas
are YOU FUCKING START CRY BECAUSE U HAVE 5 MS IN EVERY CSGO GAME, ARE YOU FUCKING MENTAL, HOW MANY TIMES I HAD 45 MS AND MORE, AND STILL PLAYED, YOU MUST BE DUMB IN THE BRAIN, IF YOU THINK 5 MS IS BAD
2021-06-14 14:29
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45 ms is better in some situations. Worse in others. The high ping advantage can be abused, low ping advantage can't.
2021-06-14 14:31
Personally, playing with the ping of 20 is way better than 60. Playing with high ping and packet loss is bad af, at least when you play with a rifle. When I'm playing with a sudden packet loss I usually grab a scout / awp.
2021-06-14 14:31
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Packet loss is never good, but that's another thing entirely . You can have super high ping without packet loss, low ping with massive packet loss.
2021-06-14 14:33
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United States Rayduh
High ping is good for peeking, when LAN comes back CIS teams won't be as good
2021-06-14 14:34
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Yeah, this is my thinking as well. CIS teams are more used to high ping.
2021-06-14 14:42
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Sweden naztyy
+1 tbh I usually have between 5 and 20 ping and kazakhstan kids with 100+ping just ferrari peeks me all the time and i dont even have time to react... but when I play vs people with lower ping its easy
2021-06-14 14:37
1 reply
+1
2021-06-14 14:42
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