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Ax1le is not hltv number 1
United States JS99rl 
I am taking a breaking away from my usually top 20 list posts and focusing on something that is related to them. Ax1le is not hltv number 1 this year. It is so painfully obvious that S1mple is a better player along with having the same amount of trophies as well as the same amount of mvp's as ax1le. Ax1le has pro league and iem summer, while s1mple has blast grand final and dreamhack masters. S1mple has a rating that is .15 points higher than ax1le's along with an impact of .25 points higher. They both have the same deaths per round, s1mple has a better adr even as an awper, s1mple has a higher kast and s1mple has a much much higher kpr. Where is Ax1le. Just just because he had a hot tournament on the best team in the world right now, completely blowing everyone by doesn't mean he is more deserving than hltv number 1 over s1mple. Frankly I'm not even sure if he would be ranked number 2. It depends on how hltv will do there list. Unfortunately they do not do a midterm list so we can only assume for another 6 or so months. TLDR: Ax1le is not the best player of 2021 so far despite him having a hot streak of tournaments. S1mple has better stats all across the board as well as having the same amount of tournament wins and mvp's
2021-06-15 04:39
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tldr
2021-06-15 04:40
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S1mple hltv top 1 Axile not in HLTV top2
2021-06-15 04:41
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s1 #1 ax >#2
2021-06-15 06:50
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s1 a2
2021-06-15 16:32
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he said ax1le not #2
2021-06-15 16:56
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s1 an2
2021-06-15 19:15
that is why i gave you tldr lmao
2021-06-15 04:41
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That was too long for him. He needed something like #3 or #46
2021-06-15 10:31
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those kids nowadays with the 10second of focus max. brainspans
2021-06-15 15:46
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xD
2021-06-15 16:30
s1mple is better but hltv looks at achievements won in the year as well if navi dont start racking up some trophies ax1le may just get the number 1
2021-06-15 04:40
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both teams have the same amount of trophies along with s1mple and ax1le both having the same amount of mvp's Gambit has been a better team but this is a first half of the year list and blast spring final will shape my final list of the first half of 2021
2021-06-15 04:42
oh is that why device got #1 in 2018?
2021-06-15 04:49
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same as in 2019 and 2020
2021-06-15 04:54
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2021-06-15 05:38
no its because device 2018 skill wise is ass compared to ax1le 2021 while s1mple 2018 and 2021 are almost the same
2021-06-15 05:38
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Are we on the same website or are you just deluded?
2021-06-15 07:21
s1mple - 2mvps 1.35 rating ax1le - 2mvps 1.24 rating
2021-06-15 19:16
it's gotta be s1mple, right?
2021-06-15 04:43
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prolly flusha top 1
2021-06-15 04:43
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i mean ofc but hltv biased so they dont give it to him just like 2014
2021-06-15 04:44
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real list if hltv not biased 1. Floosha 2. Kqly 3. Forsaken 4. Sqox 5. That one csgo pro I forgot his name who was blatantly cheating but now is on valorant
2021-06-15 04:46
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Woro2k switched to Valorant?
2021-06-15 10:32
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subroza
2021-06-15 15:33
Subroza was playing in 2014?
2021-06-15 12:15
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no 2016
2021-06-15 15:33
but fr yeah if you read my post s1mple will be top 1 100%
2021-06-15 04:44
Fucking plebs always going by stats: "s1mple more stats, more mvps, s1mple top 1" s1mple litteraly has everything setup for him, everyone and their mother on Na'Vi is playing to boost his stats If year ended today Ax1le would be my top 1 no doubt, he is doing as well in the game as s1mple with less ressources and no AWP
2021-06-15 04:45
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facts dont' care about your feelings but fr that is not how hltv does their list, s1mple would be top 1 right now, it is so painfully obvious just look back at how the lists were shaped in the previous years.
2021-06-15 04:47
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stats are not facts about who is the best player tho, they are just an indication based on how hltv DECIDE to measure what players do in the game (kills, entries, clutches, kast etc) So many times I see some player having better rating than another one on his team but if you bothered to watch the game it's painfully obvious to the naked eye that the guy with less rating was better And also let's stop comparing AWPers with riflers, every pro will tell you AWP is the easiest gun in the game to get kills
2021-06-15 04:51
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you can say stats are facts because the stat of a player's performance is a fact in the sense of kd and the rating algorithm used by hltv. Those are all statistics (stats). Explain to me why ax1le actually should be number 1. Dont' just tell me s1mple is awp abuser and he has everything for him. That is not necessarily true. With that logic, I can same Electronic should be number 1 of hltv because he is taking stat hits to allow s1mple ot get picks. I can also say that with any secondary star player to an awper that has the team built around them.
2021-06-15 04:51
here comes the "awp abuser"
2021-06-15 04:51
explain to me why every awper on every team doesn't have the best stats if it is the easiest weapon.
2021-06-15 04:52
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because every AWPer doesn't have the same roles ? Do you think s1mple and amanek play the same way ? It's like saying BlameF is a top 15 player based on ratings when anyone who watches his games knows he is playing for stats, baiting everyone and IGLing towards himself
2021-06-15 04:54
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no but that doesn't mean if the awp is the easiest weapon that an awper that has a different playstyle than s1mple can't "abuse" the awp. Can't amnek just play were s1mple plays
2021-06-15 04:54
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I still remember Blad3 saying that that rifling is much better since they don't get traded immediately which is what happens 90% of the time for awpers. Legends like ZywOo and s1mple use their superior game sense and positioning to not get traded but more often than not, they too get traded. That's the primary reason everyone drops their awps for rifles while clutching right?
2021-06-15 06:48
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Latvia CVJMZ
What kind of bullshit logic is that. Rven in 1x ? Clutch situation , 95% i never drop awp for riffle since i count myself as awper and always take my chance to hit 2-3 shoots instead of trying to riffle out that clutch. Works 70-80% and im good with that.
2021-06-15 07:00
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Okay mate. I was talking about the pros but maybe you are right. And if you were playing against tier one pros, you know that you would get traded immediately unless they peek one by one(which is really rare) right?
2021-06-15 07:03
PSG is set up for Mbappe and Neymar too, he plays in League 1, where all of PSG boost stats
2021-06-15 06:47
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ok but that is completely irrelevant to the conversation
2021-06-15 06:48
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Why do millions of people say that Mbappe is a world class talent? Isn't everything set up for him))
2021-06-15 06:49
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but where did I say s1mple and ZywOo aren't world class talents ? :> I said you can't just put them side to side with players like Ax1le and EliGe and compare them purely looking at the stats and draw conclusions You are moving the goalposts
2021-06-15 06:51
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Oh fuck, I can't read. Sorry, I agree that they should never ever be compared. Just like Kante or Lewandowski in football
2021-06-15 06:52
S1mple and zywoo are better than everyone else even with rifles if u actually watch matches
2021-06-15 11:58
You mean strictly by hltv list right? Cause skillwise, Axile top1 right now
2021-06-15 04:56
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strictly hltv list yes, and i disagree i feel s1mple is more talented.
2021-06-15 04:57
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Doesn't matter who's more talented Axile gets a much harder job done on a consistent basis
2021-06-15 04:58
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+1 plebs don't understand, Ax1le can never get s1mple/ZywOo stats with the roles he is having, it's impossible. Do people never wonder how come these guys like s1mple/ZywOo/BlameF all their team tend to have bad stats except for them ? They are like vampires, they siphon everything to boost their ratings, and I'm not saying it's a bad thing because that can be one way of winning, but you can't use just look at their stats and say "more stats, they are better" because that's the wrong way of looking at things, they are not on the same starting block with others players with the way their team is set up for them. BlameF is in a team with 3 great stars players in k0nfig, poizon and jks but he can't utilize them and get them to play at their level. Meanwhile is he farming stats and is hailed at this great "fragging IGL". At what point do you look at things and say "If you are the IGL and you have the best hltv rating, doesn't that mean you are not doing your job well ? your job is to put your best players in the best positions so they can perform" That was the same thing with ALEX in Vitality btw, his IGL style was too much centered around ZywOo and himself, apEX suffered a lot from that and suddenly now that apEX is IGLing he looks a totally different player and in the mean time ALEX was exposed in Cloud9 for what he really is, an average IGL.
2021-06-15 05:13
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lol idk how people cant understand that most of the star awpers have most of the teams resources going into them killing people, if a rifler like ax1les playing slightly below their level he has to be better obviously
2021-06-15 05:17
You have exaggerated your point a lot, as well. The person with the most money buys the costliest weapon, for the best player. And in case of s1mple, he is given full freedom to do whatever he wishes on the map. Other players have dedicated positions on the map, while s1mple can keep floating between one place and another. Allowing one player so much space makes it seem that the team relies a lot on the player, but that's not the same as playing around a player. "It's impossible to have s1mple/ZywOo stats using a rifle and playing those roles". No, it's not impossible. When GuardiaN joined Navi as an AWPer in 2019 and till the time he left: s1mple's stats: hltv.org/stats/players/7998/s1mple?start.. s1mple's weapons distribution (just to show you the point, check his rifle kills vs sniper kills): hltv.org/stats/players/individual/7998/s.. Note that I didn't even consider the fact that s1mple had to switch to a new primary rifler role after so long, and it takes time to get used to it. Same thing goes for someone who switches to primary AWPing, from Primary rifling. It's a mass opinion that ZywOo and s1mple are simply good, above average pros, who have these stats only because they AWP and their team plays around them. They would have 1.30 level stats, even while rifling. People just don't realize that zywoo and s1mple are actually once in a generation talents.
2021-06-15 06:46
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+1
2021-06-15 07:08
+1
2021-06-15 12:01
+1
2021-06-15 15:39
i dont think they would have just as good stats without awping but they would still have 1.2 rating
2021-06-15 19:20
+1
2021-06-15 19:20
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Argentina zrmkr
literally nobody gives a fuck about s0mple winning top1 hltv for 10 years in a row, he and his teams (literally all of them) win one important tournament per year and choke in all majors. Imagine grinding for years and them out of nowhere a team of 15 year old slav farmers come and win everything taking the spot for the top CIS team lmao
2021-06-15 04:59
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+1
2021-06-15 05:13
Literally every statement of yours is a lie, and an over-exaggeration. >"Literally nobody gives a fck about s0mple Top1..." > Literally millions of people care about it. He has 5 million+ followers on social media alone, and many fans don't even follow him on social media. And most fans of CS do care about rankings, especially all the people who hate. > "He and his teams (literally all of them) win 1 tournament per year.." > That's literally a lie, because Navi has 18 Tier1 events victories in 8 years, and I haven't even counted any Tier1.5/Tier2 event victories. Also, he's won more than 1 this year itself. >"15 yo slav farmers come and win everything..." > They lost to FPX in spring sweet spring, to Heroic in EPL-13, and to Navi themselves in DHM Spring 2021. So, that's a lie as well. The only correct part is that they are by far the best team in the world, which means they are obviously best in their region as well (your last line).
2021-06-15 07:17
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Butthurt fakeflagger? What about choke in all majors?
2021-06-15 10:36
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Fakeflagger for pointing out facts? I don't believe in toxic nationalism anyway. The idea that you are only supposed to praise and defend people of your country and not support the players and celebrities of other countries, is usually a childish and immature idea, mostly pertaining to under-educated kids. I seriously don't care about what a random anonymous person on the internet thinks about me. Secondly, he did indeed choke major finals to Prime Astralis (2018) and Prime SK Gaming (2016). I missed that part (was on my phone).
2021-06-15 11:43
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Love the first paragraph! Anluko on missing the choke part! Have a nice day!
2021-06-15 12:12
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United States burNout_
Nobody seriously believes Ax1Le is better than s1mple bar a couple idiots (dont bother convincing idiots). It's mostly just hltv trolls.
2021-06-15 04:59
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Zywoo top 1. S1mple top 2. Hobbit top 3.
2021-06-15 05:03
zywoo came outta no where in 2018 in 2019 suddenly top1 just wait cus i believe his team is better and will help boost his ranking this year probably top8
2021-06-15 05:13
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ZywOo wasn't even the best Vitality player at this event, misutaa was way more impactful and played way better relative to his roles ZywOo was actually pretty disappointing, didn't show up in the semi final, didn't have any crazy crazy clutch, his kills were more workman like, nothing you wouldn't expect him to do given he is main AWPer and the star of the team
2021-06-15 05:22
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woah where did this came from i was giving an example why ax1le is not on top 20 hltv (yet) look at hltv 2018 and see zywoo no where to be found even though they were playing good at tournaments and killer stats (of topic) i know zywoo shit s1mple all the way mate
2021-06-15 05:25
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United States Rayduh
S1mple 2ywoo Then maybe axile
2021-06-15 05:25
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Brazil Bactuga
s1mple awp abuser
2021-06-15 06:00
RIFLE>AWP The year is also not over, wtf mens.
2021-06-15 06:05
Awp abuser🤢
2021-06-15 06:08
yo anybody got the tldr of the tldr?
2021-06-15 06:49
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2021-06-15 10:37
s1mple got #2 over device and elige in 2019, I don't get why people think he won't be above ax1le and sh1ro this year. Same for ZywOo as well, s1mple and ZywOo have so high rating that the top 2 is locked for them
2021-06-15 07:02
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Yep, awp always higher in result
2021-06-15 11:25
Top 2 will be locked for S1mple and Zywoo as long as they are alive and well. i doubt we will have a talent of their league showing up anytime soon. ax1le is a new electronic/elige. he is easily top 8 caliber player but i doubt he will get into top 3.
2021-06-15 10:49
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Sweden EntonXD
I predict he will be nr. 4. Sh1ro will probably be above him as 3rd because of stats even though ax1les impact is larger imo.
2021-06-15 11:46
it's obvious lol
2021-06-15 11:47
*only half a year is played* forum threads about hltv top20 404 brains not found
2021-06-15 11:51
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United States EDBX
People saying Axile will be number 1 were the same people saying Yekindar will be a month or two ago.
2021-06-15 11:53
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United Kingdom Not_0racle
Launders didn't think axile was anything special in November 2020 - shows how good his insight is kkkkkk))
2021-06-15 12:02
The fact that this conversation even takes a place is disappointing. So far in 2021 we are seeing peak player performance in csgo history, better than it was in 2018
2021-06-15 12:06
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Ukraine Kastrulya
flair
2021-06-15 15:35
Thank you for stating the obvious for the deluded people on hltv
2021-06-15 15:45
Axile is not even top 2 in Gambit mate... Gambit ranked: TOP 1 Hobbit TOP 2 Sh1ro TOP 3 Ax1le TOP 4 Nafany TOP 5 Interz
2021-06-15 19:16
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-1 ax1le is better than sh1ro. Sh1ro is like jame - he has very easy time since his teammates can be very aggressive and succesful
2021-06-15 19:23
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Maybe maybe But not better than Hobbit tho
2021-06-15 19:56
Ax1le is number 1 human of 2021 its just s1mple is a god or demi human.
2021-06-15 19:17
do u understand that there are almost half a year left for anything to be decided
2021-06-15 19:22
i personally dont think there is a chance for ax1le to get top 1. There might be a chance to get top 2 but def not top 1
2021-06-15 19:24
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