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Akuma please
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Denmark Vespurr 
Someone update me on what's going on, they are still playing so many matches on ESEA advanced, and European Development Championship games, etc. If they are really cheating, how can they not be banned yet? If they are not cheating, why ESIC and Valve posting on HLTV?
2021-06-16 06:46
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they are for sure not cheating anymore
2021-06-16 06:47
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#23
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Denmark Vespurr
+1 I agree
2021-06-17 05:42
+1 xD
2021-06-17 06:25
they stopped cheating after all the drama and now they go legit, watch them drop in rankings soon
2021-06-17 07:12
2 replies
+1
2021-06-26 11:28
CNN agrees with you I've heard
2021-06-28 17:24
+1 xD
2021-06-17 07:15
+1
2021-06-26 10:28
+1 kkkkkk
2021-06-27 16:37
+1
2021-06-27 17:31
#125
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Argentina Shuanx
+1 lmao
2021-06-27 22:39
They cheated for flashpoint RMR for sure because now they are lost in tier 3
2021-06-27 23:12
they can't as it's starladder now
2021-06-27 23:14
+1 starladder good TO
2021-06-27 23:28
#155
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Yugoslavia Smooshy_
no more gotv with 0 delay no more wins for akLULma
2021-06-28 17:31
banning takes time need concreteevidence
2021-06-16 06:48
10 replies
what the evidence found not concrete enough? lol
2021-06-27 17:41
9 replies
they dont have software that says they hack
2021-06-27 20:56
6 replies
its fairly obvious tho
2021-06-27 22:01
5 replies
yeah but you need proof beyond reasonable doubt...you need physical evidence
2021-06-27 23:10
4 replies
have you seen it?
2021-06-28 01:48
3 replies
yeah but it is not for certain not 100%
2021-06-28 02:33
2 replies
its pretty convincing
2021-06-28 02:34
1 reply
you cant say it's convincing it's like murder you need dna evidence, not just "oh it looks convince"
2021-06-28 17:48
there wasnt any evidence at all, what are u even talking about lol
2021-06-27 23:26
There is no cold-hard evidence, just speculation
2021-06-29 10:57
#3
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United States Rayduh
I still believe if they are innocent, then they shouldn't be getting banned. They are such a promising young team and their career shouldn't be tainted with cheating allegation
2021-06-16 06:49
16 replies
#4
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Finland Jomppeboi
Ofc they shouldn't be banned if they are innocent. What lmao
2021-06-16 06:51
7 replies
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk ikr
2021-06-16 06:52
#39
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Kazakhstan R4m4
+1 xddd
2021-06-18 08:02
8/8 500 iq
2021-06-23 22:24
ban them anyway 4Head
2021-06-25 06:16
axaxaxxaxaxx
2021-06-26 10:28
+1 wtf kkkkkkkkk
2021-06-27 23:14
+1
2021-06-27 23:28
#14
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Russia WiHuu
Such a promising young team that was banned from multiple bookmakers! I don't think they were cheating, innocent until proven guilty and whatever, but they are definitely not clean.
2021-06-16 07:22
3 replies
You think they are dirty? Maybe they should take a shower?
2021-06-24 10:59
most of bookmakers are dirty themselves, so who knows, maybe they got blacklisted because they refused to throw
2021-06-26 10:34
1 reply
next level tinfoiling
2021-06-26 11:04
are u high or something whats that supposed to mean ?????????????????????????
2021-06-16 07:46
Huh?
2021-06-16 08:45
#24
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Denmark Vespurr
I'm confused by what you mean...
2021-06-17 05:43
american struggling
2021-06-26 11:17
they havent been doing well
2021-06-16 06:56
1 reply
you could have chosen any other username man
2021-06-27 21:03
#7
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Finland hermion
because theres no evidence that theyre cheating
2021-06-16 06:58
23 replies
there is plenty of evidence, but there is no proof which is not an easy thing to come by especially with online cs and shiii TOs
2021-06-16 07:01
22 replies
Meh the evidence being lucky flank timings isn't much
2021-06-25 06:35
21 replies
what? Sergiz were looking at radar so much. All 4 guests on hltv confirmed who were asked if they are cheating or not have said yes or probably yes. Blad3 Hampus Valde Nafany
2021-06-25 07:03
20 replies
blade and nafany lmaoo butthurt maybe valde and ampoos is surprising, maybe they are right
2021-06-25 10:34
5 replies
#73
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Norway AleXeiCS
Flag
2021-06-26 10:26
nafany butthurt lmao 🤣🤣🤣
2021-06-26 10:58
> nafany butthurt > Gambit won the tournament ???
2021-06-26 11:08
2 replies
+1
2021-06-26 11:44
+1. What the hell is this thread lol.
2021-06-28 10:39
No to mention 100PG, 1WIN, bankaPepsi, Entropiq, forZe, Gambit, Grond, IN.GAME, K23, Na'Vi, Nemiga, Team Spirit, Team Unique, Trident and Virtus.pro all accuse them of cheating.
2021-06-26 06:28
all washed up has beens and never beens trying to get some attention, not a single respected player accused them of cheating
2021-06-26 10:36
12 replies
#82
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CIS TheBigSAM
You are a dumbass
2021-06-26 10:49
1 reply
no u
2021-06-26 10:52
low iq comment
2021-06-26 10:58
8 replies
I'm not wrong though. Show me device or Zywoo calling Akuma cheaters. You can't, because they actually have a good understanding of the game, unlike some washed up coach whos only tactic is "wait till the last 10 seconds, then rush in and try to plant".
2021-06-26 11:03
7 replies
so nafany has bad understanding of the game? bad b8 m8
2021-06-26 11:04
2 replies
hit me up when Gambit wins a single match on LAN
2021-06-26 11:25
1 reply
Leave HLTV and return when Akuma win a single match against top 15 team again, see you never
2021-06-27 17:31
so blade has bad understanding of the game? keep hitting rock bottom with these baits
2021-06-26 11:16
3 replies
yes? everyone knows that, stop baiting pls
2021-06-26 11:24
1 reply
probably handful of 14 yo hltv specialists
2021-06-26 11:25
dont waste time
2021-06-26 11:26
I told you which people on hltv confirmed who said they were most likely cheating. If zywoo comes on hltv and says they are clean then I respect your argument but none of the 4 invited guests did say akuma were just good players.
2021-06-26 12:09
innocent until proven guilty
2021-06-16 06:59
24 replies
They are already proven guilty but for some reason this is taking forever lmao. Modern people so useless dude sitting on a desk and shit takes forever to get done for some reason.
2021-06-16 07:18
23 replies
#16
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India spiderCAKE
Why don't you volunteer to help them out? Maybe then shit will get done faster.
2021-06-16 07:45
2 replies
Sure do I get a salary?
2021-06-16 08:37
1 reply
#21
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India spiderCAKE
Write an email to ESIC and find out. EZ Don't be one of those modern people so useless dude sitting on a desk and shit takes forever to get done for some reason.
2021-06-16 08:52
B1ade being a butt hurt mouthbreather accusing akuma of cheating only to save his own job isn't proof tho Neither are the free tears of the 12 year old navi fan base
2021-06-25 06:37
19 replies
The videos are pretty damning I don't see how you can deny they weren't cheating. A guy is peaking you mid doors on dust and you stare at radar? That's normal to you?
2021-06-25 06:48
17 replies
half the time i'm dying when someone peeks me is when i'm looking at radar desu
2021-06-25 10:35
2 replies
#84
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CIS TheBigSAM
How about the time when they rushed long on ovp two separate times, when no one was watching it on early timings? Or when sensei peeked mou in the most stupid timing ever, but it was clearly in favor of him? Or when he hard-cleared deko standing in off-angle in bathrooms? Or when Sergiz was going going to throw mollie, but switched in the exact moment CTs left close positions? Or how sensei peaked dust b doors without throwing smoke on ct and never checking any positions there? You guys are delusional
2021-06-26 10:55
Ok but do you look at radar every second? I doubt it.
2021-06-27 16:13
"looked at the radar = you're a cheater" is one of the most stupidest things ever written on hltv, well done
2021-06-26 10:38
13 replies
its normal to look at radar every second? and ignore a guy that literally shows up on your screen and not react to it because you're so focused on radar? Kid talk to me when you have a scene if thats how you think I can see why Chinese CS is dog shit
2021-06-27 16:12
5 replies
k, silver, talk to me when you reach nova so I can make fun of you again
2021-06-27 16:36
4 replies
lmao no argument so you call me silver Chinese scene btw kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-06-27 17:22
3 replies
and what's your argument, silver? "he's cheating because I don't know how to use radar"? And why do you keep bringing up Chinese scene? What's the top ranked Canadian team atm? lmao
2021-06-27 17:40
2 replies
Bro why is this no scener talking to me right now someone get this kid out of here.
2021-06-28 06:50
1 reply
bruh, you're even worse at baiting than you're at playing cs that's just embarrassing
2021-06-28 10:36
Nafany, hampus, valde, blad3 and 14 out of 16 cis team think they are cheating and have made an appeal. ESIC believes there is matchfixing using cheats. But somehow, u think u know better. Typical silver in hltv, come back when u can achieve even a fraction of what these guys did in csgo, then maybe someone would care about ur opinion /Closed
2021-06-28 11:12
6 replies
by "what these guys did in csgo" you mean crying all the time? sorry, I don't think I'll be able to cry as much as these guys do
2021-06-28 12:10
5 replies
0/8 bad bait, u couldn't get good in csgo, atleast get good in baiting /closed
2021-06-28 17:21
4 replies
oh, ran out of arguments already well, good luck on your road to silver II
2021-06-28 18:04
3 replies
2021-06-29 10:45
2 replies
2021-06-29 10:46
1 reply
2021-06-29 10:48
> butthurt where can you see it? He clearly explained why he thinks so on the podcast, is this a "butthurt"? Or are nafany, hampus, valde and other unrelated to RMR pros (even Dima from valorant lmao) butthurting too? Have you ever seen that clips btw? Can you explain them? If they're not enough to just suspect them in cheating, I don't understand what should happen to change your mind > Neither are the free tears of the 12 year old navi fan base And of course you're so "smart" to blame NaVi at the same time when most of the accusations appeared after VP had lost to them. I'm really confused whether you're baiting or not
2021-06-26 11:39
#10
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Russia dyatl0v
I guess some private investigation is still going, but I think there are no real evidence (if they were really cheating ofc). So they pass through the qualifiers stage through and they'll be in next rmr I'd like to see them use this hypetrain to promote themselves
2021-06-16 07:03
1 reply
#85
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CIS TheBigSAM
Evidence? Plenty of it There is no real proof also they got enough points to skip quals
2021-06-26 10:57
if I remember correctly, they were accused for watching a stream with no delay from third party, and not for cheating. And, that is quite difficult to be proven since there is no camera that shows the entire player's activity on that moment
2021-06-16 07:17
4 replies
#56
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Sweden piCt
So, let me get this straight: Getting, and using info on your oppents positions in real time, is not cheating? Just to make that clear... I must have misunderstood something here.
2021-06-25 06:21
3 replies
of course it is considered as cheating and if they are proven guilty then I would love to see them getting punished for that. What I mean when I wrote that was kind of hacks or word.exe or whatever you called it
2021-06-26 06:16
at what delay it turns from cheating to acceptable though? what is the cut off point?
2021-06-26 10:40
1 reply
#119
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Sweden piCt
Around the time when you watch the vod after the game... They even fined vitality for leaving a screen with the stream on, that noone could see. Witch was understandable, considering all the streamsniping that took place before that.
2021-06-27 19:36
They should do the honorable thing and just move over to Valorant.
2021-06-16 07:19
1 reply
+1 reasonable
2021-06-26 11:34
dont forget about chaos
2021-06-16 07:22
6 replies
chaos had weird mouse movements, the entire way akuma played was just blatant
2021-06-17 06:25
1 reply
btw, cheating too
2021-06-18 07:06
nt gaules cry more
2021-06-18 07:21
3 replies
+1
2021-06-18 07:26
pakistan LUL
2021-06-23 18:47
1 reply
still crying BRA71L?
2021-06-23 22:22
#20
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Myanmar dexzzz
nothing
2021-06-16 08:46
still investigating i think
2021-06-16 08:54
#25
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France Haibara
No news
2021-06-17 06:12
they probably wouldn't risk cheating on a service with an actual anticheat
2021-06-17 06:24
Only Akuma can prove that they're cheating. It'll be clear when the next rmr takes place if they're cheating or not.
2021-06-17 06:40
"If they are not cheating, why ESIC and Valve posting on HLTV?" that is about matchfixing issue
2021-06-17 06:44
well, maybe because u r not smart enough(as most of the users in this thread), i would say it in better way, but censorship, u know they have used radar app in a portable device with the CSGOTV with no delay, which is provided to a lot of people connected with tournament and betting so this cannot be detected
2021-06-17 06:50
#33
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Russia VelsVivard
I don't think they were cheating, either they're clean or Sergiz (who I'm a big fan of by now), is a great actor.
2021-06-17 07:15
#38
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Russia Rapu
no proof - no ban :)
2021-06-18 07:33
The question at this point is rather whether there is any investigation going on at all. I would love to get some feedback on that. If there is then we wait, if there isn't then they are innocent. Regardless, they helped the scene and I am thankful. The following tournaments will have to react even if Volvo doesn't. Counter measures for cheating in tournament is a must and there should be a minimum of what must be done in order to keep the integrity of the games - i.e TeamSpeak, Anti-Cheat, Cameras on player screens, OTV delay, perhaps even implement banning secondary screens around the player stations.
2021-06-24 07:49
2 replies
Nothing will change. This wasn't the first time something like this happened...
2021-06-24 09:36
1 reply
#71
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Austria SplasJ
But first time it got any real attention
2021-06-26 10:22
Everyone knows that this is a radarhack or a stream with delay etc., all demos and cuts from streams talk about it, but there's no way to check it. The only true option is to calculate from the action during the game with help of the provider and check the history from network, but no one has the authority to do this, only a criminal case, which no one will initiate, so we can only hope that someday there will be a person who will tell the whole truth with proof... and akuma's players don't have the conscience to confess
2021-06-24 07:53
If akuma cheated then chaos too.
2021-06-24 09:38
2 replies
flag :DDDDDDDDD
2021-06-27 23:13
1 reply
Refute me that they were not cheated. The guys were shooting in places that didn't go through, that's definitive proof.
2021-06-28 02:40
#50
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Hungary domcsa10
Maybe because they can't streamsnipe on those events...
2021-06-24 09:40
I they they just abused gotv, which is cheating ofc.
2021-06-24 09:41
1 reply
think they* o.0
2021-06-24 10:00
#62
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Brazil Bactuga
I Really want AKUMA to get enough points to qualify for the major. just imagine them on LAN with a CROWD
2021-06-25 07:09
4 replies
#66
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Czech Republic Fofon
i swear the whole crown would run on the stage and beat them soo hard. its in akuma's interest not to qualify
2021-06-25 10:40
#72
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Austria SplasJ
Yes get them there
2021-06-26 10:23
If they were good they wouldn't be matchfixers, there is no way they qualify over other 2-3 talented t2 teams ( either Entropiq or Forze imo)
2021-06-27 17:57
would be cool to see them get booed, but they wont qualify anyway
2021-06-27 19:41
It's because the way they cheated is not really going to harm them. They didn't use hacks or smth, just being provided with real-time data from the stream so they abused that. And it's really not proof for anybody to remove them, if anything they should really keep towards the org that hosted the event and maybe sue them for not making things safe, aka "real-time stream", "teamspeak records" etc. Teams already saw that akuma had more information then usual, they know they streamsniped the games, they just want future events to not have such things so players can't abuse it.
2021-06-25 13:18
#74
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Serbia LtN))
They unfortunately can't cheat anymore since those events have anti-cheat
2021-06-26 10:26
"f they are really cheating, how can they not be banned yet?" because they're clean /closed
2021-06-26 10:44
1 reply
+1 they could not have been cheating on VAC secure servers
2021-06-27 23:17
they suck
2021-06-26 10:58
volvo silent then all of a sudden they lift ban hammer same with IBP....
2021-06-26 11:09
They will play at 20:00 in esea advanced so we will see
2021-06-26 11:27
you small bain
2021-06-26 11:28
#106
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France d0py
Akuma friendly mens
2021-06-26 11:49
#111
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Ukraine W1ldHunt
Hey, my prediction is about to get real!
2021-06-27 16:36
#120
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Sweden piCt
They failed on one simple thing. Should have invested in this, and noone would hav known: addiaudiovisual.com/en/buy/15-lightweigh..
2021-06-27 19:38
I think they just cannot have enough evidence to prove Akuma was cheating as EPIC league had no anti-cheating. Something that b1ad3 said like peek timings and some other cam video is not supportive enough.
2021-06-27 23:17
#133
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Yugoslavia 1WINGOAT
You don't accusate someone and get them banned the day after. There need to be serious evidence to do so. Yes, they were looking at the radar in multiple occasions, but I wouldn't ban people just because of that, there's no certainty that they were cheating. Again, it was suspicious, but we've seen many pros do suspicious stuff, be accused and not get banned cause they were simply not cheating.
2021-06-27 23:19
They're still not dumb enough to cheat in games where there's actual potential to get caught with proof, that's also when they happen to get smashed by dogshit teams with great consistency. I don't think the GOTV sniping is possible to even detect, thus in this one tournament they turn from shit to world beaters, largely off the back of reads and calls. They will never get banned, but with all the scrutiny now, I doubt they'll dare to cheat at this scale again either.
2021-06-27 23:23
They're gonna get fooked in this RMR.
2021-06-28 10:38
1 reply
this rmr and any other event
2021-06-28 11:09
They were never proven to be cheaters and therefore they were never punished for it. Did they cheat? That depends on what you choose to take away from the events. Still, we cannot actually state for certain they were but what we do know is something suspicious took place at the RMR or they had the luck of the century on their side. Either way, I blame EPIC League CIS solely and for good reason.
2021-06-28 11:08
2 replies
Call me crazy but I still think EPIC orgs did set this up themselves in the first place and shared corrupt betting income with Akuma players. It just can not be a coincidence that they had no TeamSpeak records, no anti-cheat, no delay on GOTV and Akuma showed up with this shit. And the Project X CEO thing as well.
2021-06-28 15:38
1 reply
Yeah, ECIS divulged that suspicious betting activity was present with Project X's CEO on Akuma but as to whether or not Akuma were in on this, I'm unaware... I think at the time it was assumed but I cannot remember if it was actually confirmed or not. Either way, professionals have called Akuma out and despite being unconfirmed, it is more or less treated as "accepted fact" and nothing can be done. The blatant lack of the industry standards from EPIC League CIS was unacceptable, it should never have happened whatsoever...
2021-06-28 15:57
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