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gambit dominance
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Asia GoLB 
they got to 4 ESL/DH S tier (only worlds so no na or eu tournaments) finals in a row, and won 2 For other teams record: Faze: 4 finals - 1 win Astralis: 3 finals - 3 wins old nip: 5 finals - 5 wins (this does include esea becuase its s tier for some reason) old fnatic: 4 finals - 3 wins (this does include esea becuase its s tier for some reason) liquid: 5 finals - 5 wins sk/luminosity: 2x 2 finals - 0 win
2021-06-17 04:45
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It's harder to dominate when you are facing 10 equally competitive teams. Comparing current CS to "old NIP" is unfair. They really faced only 2 or 3 teams who were in the same tier.
2021-06-17 04:53
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Asia GoLB
thats why i say old fnatic/nip
2021-06-17 04:59
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Brazil Bactuga
If Gambit faced NaVi or Heroic, or even Mouz in the last 2 tournaments they would have probably lost, but they got lucky and didnt face them and just won the tournament easily, right now its usually between Gambit, NaVi, Heroic and to some extent mousesports
2021-06-17 04:56
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Russia Danzo
Gambit won't lose to a team with a bad sniper, so Mouz can't beat Gambit
2021-06-17 05:07
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Finland kurtits
acor isnt even bad but ok
2021-06-17 05:08
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nafany | 
Russia Danzo
no he is
2021-06-17 05:09
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Argentina atriX^
I think you are heavily overrating mouz. I mean, they are finally good and won an event with most of the top teams but actually saying they are one of the teams that can beat Gambit to win an event is way too much.
2021-06-17 05:07
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Brazil Bactuga
yeah but we havent seen them facing against Heroic, Gambit, NaVi yet so i still wont say anything, but they are definitely the best european team right now if you dont include Heroic and CIS
2021-06-17 05:08
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No lol they won an event where everyone including Dexter played insane, noone will play like that consistently except ropzq
2021-06-17 05:17
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Brazil Bactuga
Yeah but apart from Heroic and CIS, they should win against every European team RIGHT NOW (NiP, Astralis, G2, Vitality)
2021-06-17 05:19
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No, G2 is 100% better NiP slightly Vitality even and Astralis is worse
2021-06-17 05:41
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Brazil Bactuga
They destroyed NiP, G2, Astralis in Flashpoint 3, idk if they will do the same now, also dont remember them facing vitality so thats i guess another one.
2021-06-17 06:32
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again, one event where everyone played above their level
2021-06-17 15:19
+1, overrating mouz because they won an event without top 2 teams playing
2021-06-17 07:02
Maybe. But what happened has happened so we can't speculate about what-ifs. Fact is, they did beat NAVI and Heroic. They also beat other "good" teams like G2, Astralis, VP, EG.... Heroic is average. Losing to both Gambit and Navi. Even the 3-2 vs gambit they scraped by in overtimes. Couldn't beat Gambit cleanly.
2021-06-17 05:07
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Brazil Bactuga
Yeah, but what im saying is the last 2 tournaments they won they never faced the teams that won against them, which is NaVi and Heroic, the only team that was actually a real threat to them was Complexity, which got really close to winning but the rest not at all
2021-06-17 05:10
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I mean, they beat G2.... everyone seems to be hyped over that team, not sure why. They lose pretty much everything. They beat Astralis, VP.. those are good teams.
2021-06-17 05:14
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Brazil Bactuga
If G2 ever wins one game against Gambit i will give 300$ dollars to Thorin, Astralis is not in a good form right now because their awper, star and best player in the team just left, and for you to beat Gambit without a Main awper is impossible, then VP i guess thats the best team they have faced, also i forgot Vitality won against them so thats one more team i guess.
2021-06-17 05:16
they beat heroic in the spring showdown right after esl pro league
2021-06-17 05:43
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Brazil Bactuga
What i mean is they never faced the teams that actually have a chance at winning against them in these 2 tournaments they won
2021-06-17 06:33
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they beat navi in katowice
2021-06-18 04:38
That final was Gambit’s loss not Heroic’s win. Gambit choked 11-4 and 10-5 leads on both of their OT map losses and were in control for maps 2 and 4.
2021-06-17 06:43
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yeah that's what I said. If you count the rounds, then gambit won that matchup. So technically, Heroic got lucky.
2021-06-17 07:00
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Argentina cheapdeed
what the fuck i don't remember the liquid one's lol
2021-06-18 04:41
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