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deagle op
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Norway Maximilianmus 
people who say deagle is op, how do we nerf it and keep it viable?
2021-06-19 20:15
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2021-06-19 20:15
#2
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Austria Ostmark
people are mad at it being able to kill people with 2 shots in the body afaik
2021-06-19 20:16
24 replies
#21
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Yugoslavia Smooshy_
those people don't clear corners. deagle is fine. i'm global and i have never felt like the deagle has to get nerfed because it's too op.
2021-06-19 21:35
23 replies
#24
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Austria Ostmark
they are talking about pro games
2021-06-19 21:39
11 replies
#33
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Yugoslavia Smooshy_
nobody said that. but in pro play as well. they make mistakes and the deagle is good at punishing it. it's not uncounterable
2021-06-19 21:52
10 replies
#41
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Austria Ostmark
you can't know if you're facing a deagle, hard to play around
2021-06-19 22:00
9 replies
#75
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Yugoslavia Smooshy_
yeah. you should always be careful. that's how you play the game at higher levels.
2021-06-20 01:33
8 replies
#91
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Austria Ostmark
so why aren't you pro yet?
2021-06-20 08:23
7 replies
do you expect everyone to want to be a pro? or have the time to play for 10+ hours a day? and making it to FPL-C is hard as hell, you can be a super good player and still not get in
2021-06-20 08:26
5 replies
#94
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Austria Ostmark
it just seems off to me that a random guy would be able to do what pros are struggling to
2021-06-20 08:27
4 replies
i dont think he ever said that he himself could counter a deagle everytime, as he said in #33 everyone makes mistakes (especially pros that have to remember lineups, strats, give good info to team, strategize, etc) and once you make those mistakes you can easily get fucked by a deagle. i agree with his #85 as well, because if they nerfed it from here on out, it would literally make eco rounds near impossible to win against a full buy
2021-06-20 08:31
2 replies
#98
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Austria Ostmark
2021-06-20 08:32
1 reply
? yes? hes never felt like it has to be nerfed because when he doesnt make a mistake, its unlikely youre gonna get killed by a deag
2021-06-20 08:33
#104
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Yugoslavia Smooshy_
I never said i never died to a deagle body spam. i'm saying if you die to it it's probably your fault. you made a mistake and you got punished for it.
2021-06-20 17:24
#103
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Yugoslavia Smooshy_
i don't have the time to play 10k of cs
2021-06-20 17:23
" i'm global and" stopped reading
2021-06-19 21:54
10 replies
+1
2021-06-19 21:59
trust him men hes lvl 4 faceit player
2021-06-19 22:00
1 reply
lvl 4 faceit players very skillful, can confirm. I am one myself
2021-06-19 22:10
#74
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Yugoslavia Smooshy_
2021-06-20 01:29
6 replies
it's not that I don't believe you it's that saying you're global to consolidate your argument is kinda silly because I know first hand big of a shit hole global is. I swear I consistently saw people with better game sense or knowledge in DMG. The deagle is stupid even in pro play, just look how many eco rounds teams win off of deagle buys. The reason you probably think it's not a problem is because you encounter a lot of Xantares wannabes in MM who go for flashy hs flicks while spamming the q animation after each shot, that shit was driving me crazy
2021-06-20 02:38
3 replies
#85
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Yugoslavia Smooshy_
no. the reason why i think it's okay is because the deagle makes forcebuy/eco rounds competetive. if you didn't have the deagle winning eco rounds would be straight up impossible. the deagle keeps you cautious at all times. it works as intended. and sure there are exceptions but being global is like a minimal amount of leverage. but you can just look at my faceit instead doesn't
2021-06-20 02:45
2 replies
ye but in order to have good competitive rounds with low $ vs people who invested 4-5k in nades armor and a rifle it would be fair to reward crisp headshots instead of stupid body shots that any dumbass can go for
2021-06-20 14:35
1 reply
#105
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Yugoslavia Smooshy_
if any dumbass could just buy a deagle and win against rifles consistently then why does everyone buy rifles? why don't pros run deagle only every round if it's so good? a deagle gives you a chance to win against a rifle doesn't guarantee the win. you still can't do anything with nades and rifles have a higher rate of fire so if you don't miss your shots you will kill someone who spams with the deagle. it's also very inaccurate so killing more than 1 person is almost impossible
2021-06-20 17:26
you're level 6 on faceit lmao faceitfinder.com/profile/765611981328411..
2021-06-20 02:47
1 reply
#90
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Yugoslavia Smooshy_
yeah. 1.27 kd. i don't really play faceit but that's above average. i'd like to see you get out of lvl 1
2021-06-20 02:55
No two body shot kill make it three
2021-06-19 20:17
3 replies
+1 no pistol should do +50 dmg to body from any range
2021-06-19 22:23
it's already 3 (sometimes 4) on longer ranges
2021-06-20 02:44
1 reply
I think it should be like longer ranges every team, so it’s not easy to get a spam kill but you still get rewarded if you get a headshot
2021-06-20 02:45
Keep it 1 hit HS but reduce damage or whatever to make it at least 3 hits in body
2021-06-19 20:17
9 replies
+111
2021-06-19 20:18
#9
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Brazil veinnN
no que ota = no deagle anymore
2021-06-19 20:19
5 replies
#10
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Austria Ostmark
que ota = 1 hit hs no?
2021-06-19 20:20
4 replies
#31
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Germany i_dont_car
br brain
2021-06-19 21:50
2 replies
xd
2021-06-19 22:06
i don't car dude
2021-06-20 01:58
yes, i mean IF VALVE don't keep the 1 hit = no deagle, you understood it wrong
2021-06-20 01:53
+1
2021-06-19 22:20
already is 3 hits in body, 2 hits do the job only when the enemy is very close(his fault at this point though)
2021-06-19 22:22
reduce body shot damage, increase accuracy a bit
2021-06-19 20:18
1 reply
+1
2021-06-19 22:20
#7
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Japan Peine
Don't change the head damage, but change body damages quite easy
2021-06-19 20:18
2 replies
#17
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Germany F0kussi3rt
Maybe even lower the damage drop off to nearly always have 1 shot Headshot and dont nedd 5 Shorts at longrange body
2021-06-19 20:57
thats literally not how it works
2021-06-19 22:01
recoil more
2021-06-19 20:19
1 reply
recoil already random
2021-06-19 20:32
damage drop off less, smaller damage
2021-06-19 20:20
1 reply
literally the only way how to nerf it
2021-06-19 22:02
no two body shots
2021-06-19 20:20
Well I made a video on this, it isn't edited or anything so don't expect too much from it. youtu.be/tE3aDCz34X8 Basically change how the damage multipliers work, and the Deagle can be much more balanced.
2021-06-19 20:28
#15
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Germany F0kussi3rt
Higher ACC at range but lower base damage and lower damage drop off. So you have to (At least) 3 Shot on Close Range but its still a Skill weapon on Long range
2021-06-19 20:55
5 replies
This
2021-06-19 21:00
+1
2021-06-19 21:09
+1
2021-06-19 21:39
+1, consider making it $800 aswell, as it is an incredibly effective weapon in the right hands. Not a necessity though.
2021-06-19 21:53
+1
2021-06-19 22:21
deagle is fine as it is
2021-06-19 20:56
1 reply
no, it's absolutely not.
2021-06-19 21:37
Maybe lesser armour penetration or higher accuracy reset time
2021-06-19 20:58
#25
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United States gweees
3 shot body
2021-06-19 21:39
Doesn't need a nerf, it's fine. Just git good.
2021-06-19 21:40
minimum 3 shot close rang in body
2021-06-19 21:42
#28
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Japan PKcrash
Reduce range and make it 3-4 shots to the body to kill you just straight up shouldn't be able to kill a full buy player from A Main on train all the way from Fork with a 700 dollar weapon also spamming body shots with deagle doesn't take skill
2021-06-19 21:46
2 replies
#40
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Croatia Mikylm
I am fine with getting one deaged but holy shit i hate dudes who spam deagle... P.S I hate myself
2021-06-19 22:00
1 reply
#50
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Japan PKcrash
The issue with the Deagle is also amplified because of the trash "new" economy that makes force buys more common. Why bother winning pistol when you can always just buy deagle + armor and kill full buy players.
2021-06-19 22:03
#29
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Argentina atriX^
Easy, just recreate the 1.6 deagle. Great range for headshots, still good on CQC.
2021-06-19 21:47
#30
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Germany i_dont_car
only problem with the deagle is that you can 2 shot people up close
2021-06-19 21:49
#32
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World MattAaA
I think that the deagle is fine.
2021-06-19 21:51
#36
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Hungary szia
Deagle is not op. lame people are just mad about getting killed with a skill weapon
2021-06-19 21:55
3 replies
> skill weapon > two body shots spam kill
2021-06-19 21:58
2 replies
#51
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Hungary szia
only at close range. why dont you keep your range from deagle spammers or just like, idk, shoot better????? or just use it yourself since you find it soooo overpowered??????
2021-06-19 22:04
1 reply
sometimes u just cant avoid short range on choke points. even pros have said this countless times. surely people who have played the game their whole life know better than an hltv expert(or maybe not )
2021-06-19 22:06
can still be 2 shot body, but only point blank like aug hs range… otherwise 3 body
2021-06-19 21:58
8 replies
its not point blank lol and the range is bigger
2021-06-19 22:02
5 replies
read my comment again
2021-06-19 22:20
4 replies
ok now read how balancing of the weapons work
2021-06-19 22:32
3 replies
yea i don’t think you understood my comment
2021-06-19 22:43
2 replies
i dont think you understand basic game mechanics
2021-06-19 23:12
1 reply
yes rangemodifier definitely isn’t a part of the game mechanics derp
2021-06-19 23:25
#96
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Finland qwlul
2021-06-20 08:31
1 reply
0 iq… i’m saying to nerf the deagle so that it is only 2 shot point blank like the AUG hs range, not that it currently is. “It can still be” clearly suggests a change…
2021-06-21 03:37
Pros also saying it's too op and IT IS too op. 2 shots in body (close range) = dead 1 shot in head in ANY RANGE = dead At least Valorant made sheriff(deagle) good but not OP - You can't kill with 2 hits unless you shot in the head. You can't kill in the head with 1 shoot in VERY long range (like more than 40 or 50 metres) Pretty balanced for 700 dollars
2021-06-19 22:00
3 replies
"1 shot in head in ANY RANGE = dead" ? you dont know this game?
2021-06-19 22:03
2 replies
2010 steam, NS before that I agree I exaggerated, most OP part is 2 fast hits kill in body and every pro will (and did) agree with that
2021-06-19 22:26
1 reply
every pro will tell you that the devs SHOULD NOT TOUCH DEAGLE
2021-06-19 22:31
did you get 1-deaged recently or? cry is free
2021-06-19 22:01
1 reply
reading comprehension is not your thing?
2021-06-19 22:05
long range it is fine, the problem is with close range. it shouldnt do more than 40-45 damage to body, imo.
2021-06-19 22:02
reduce spread, reduce body damage, increase first bullet accuracy. makes the deagle 3/4 shot close range, and makes it not difficult to hit the 3/4 shots needed bc of RNG spread. increase first bullet acc so it doesn't magically miss when you hit someone in the head
2021-06-19 22:04
Just reduce the body damage lol
2021-06-19 22:08
#58
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United States GameZ_iwnl
So the main issue with the deag is 100% its spamability at close range combined with its ability to 2 shot to the body. -Lower body shot damage all around, upper chest should be 3 shot -slightly increase spread after 2nd shot, slight increase to moving inaccuracy -draw animation time increase, also pretty slight This makes it harder to use in CQB, but doesn't take away anything from the long range capabilities, without touching the reload as its fairly balanced. All this does is make it more skill based as the spread after 2nd shot makes it much less viable to try and spam it in any situation, while still being able to maintain the ability to repeek with it long range
2021-06-19 22:17
make it $800 /thread
2021-06-19 22:27
max bodyshot damage to 45
2021-06-19 22:35
Lower the bodyshot damage and maybe rate of fire (spamming) by a little, increase first shot accuracy to keep it balanced
2021-06-19 22:51
Decrease base damage Do this and it’s fixed!
2021-06-20 01:54
#79
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United States burzeus
every few months kids crying about a new weapon to nerf, just go and play valulrant cry there.
2021-06-20 01:58
#80
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Austria Grundz
3 shot to the body, I guess. That's the only thing people complain about. I think some pros complain about it as well. 2 shots does seem absurd, but most people rage because they don't clear corners. I don't really mind it that much. I think if they nerfed it balance would be a bit better in terms of half-buys. I mean, why wouldn't u just use S tier N O V A, but whatever. Also N O V A best weapon in game, plz nerf.
2021-06-20 02:03
Increase accuracy, lower fire rate
2021-06-20 02:43
tbh deagle is either good for hs or nothing
2021-06-20 02:45
#88
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Czech Republic imotfhere
it is bullshit when its 700$ pistol and you can litteraly one tap guy to the head just going with deagle to palace is so op when someone is pushing you just double tap him to body and you can peek really good and fast stairs and jungle reduce movement so you cant do lightning fast peeks or 3 body shots at close
2021-06-20 02:46
it honestly isnt really a problem
2021-06-20 08:26
#95
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Deagle is fine but if you want to nerf it then either 1.) body shots do 45dmg instead of 56 2.) Increase accuracy, lower fire rate
2021-06-20 08:31
making it not op would fundamentally break the game
2021-06-20 08:33
make it 3 shot at close range and slow it down a bit
2021-06-20 08:35
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