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Liquid expectations
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Brazil BRA71LIAN 
By the time they play Cologne, they will have been playing together for 6 months. For a team like Liquid, I'd say anything below the semifinals would be considered a disappointment. Maybe quarterfinalists if they end up losing to someone that ends up in the finals. If they "disappoint" again, I would suggest roster change again, maybe Stew/FalleN/Grim will be kicked for someone new? NAF and ELIGE is definitely safe
2021-06-21 10:07
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#1
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United States NABOT
-naf -elige +ferGOD +VACO
2021-06-21 10:09
13 replies
#2
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France Haibara
fake flagger spotted
2021-06-21 10:10
7 replies
#14
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United States NABOT
LOL no
2021-06-21 10:18
6 replies
#30
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France Haibara
nice try bra71l
2021-06-21 10:33
5 replies
#32
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United States NABOT
Nt baiter who hates on other baiters I can be American and make a joke that involves Brazilian players
2021-06-21 10:34
#33
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United States NABOT
Unlike you I actually like players from outside of my own country
2021-06-21 10:35
3 replies
#39
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France Haibara
your story don't check out buddy sorry
2021-06-21 12:44
2 replies
#41
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United States NABOT
Ok, dc
2021-06-21 18:14
youre an NA fake flagger.
2021-06-21 18:16
pls no
2021-06-21 21:53
-1
2021-06-21 23:47
nice bait
2021-06-22 01:19
2 replies
#78
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United States NABOT
Ty
2021-06-22 01:20
1 reply
you're welcome
2021-06-22 01:49
i expect final
2021-06-21 10:11
12 replies
#6
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United States Rayduh
honestly they just got super unlucky in ESL Pro League S13 (losing to Astralis in double OT, and losing to G2 on map 3 because one bad call 14-14) I think this team has potential to be in Grand Finals but they really need some lucky ngl
2021-06-21 10:14
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They definitely need much more than "some luck" to make grand finals lol. Top 5 teams are pretty strong.
2021-06-21 10:17
10 replies
#11
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United States Rayduh
Liquid def can win finals, but they can also go out in groups
2021-06-21 10:18
6 replies
Liquid can maybe beat Na'Vi, G2, Heroic etc. but there's no way they beat Gambit. And you gotta beat Gambit to win finals (before you ask, no, I don't think they will fall off in Cologne just because it's LAN)
2021-06-21 10:20
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#21
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United States Rayduh
Also Virtus Pro too, and liquid has never played Gambit so I think we could
2021-06-21 10:22
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Actually I consider Mouz as top 5 but yeah.
2021-06-21 10:25
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#27
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United States Rayduh
Mouz won 1 tournament, they are off the grid for IEM summer and Blast
2021-06-21 10:26
#28
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United States Rayduh
Also mouz never beat Gambit or Navi, they literally just beat G2/NIP
2021-06-21 10:26
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Top 5 as in below Gambit, Na'Vi, G2 and Heroic of course. And I think it's reasonable to put Mouz over VP since they did win FP which was more stacked than Epic League. Though VP did make 1/4 in IEM Summer. idk it's close.
2021-06-21 10:32
#15
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Denmark pebblez
Liquid can definitely beat all the teams in the top 5 except Gambit and be in that top 5.
2021-06-21 10:19
2 replies
2021-06-21 10:21
#22
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United States Rayduh
Why can't we beat Gambit?? We've never played them before
2021-06-21 10:22
#4
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France Haibara
I think -FalleN for sure
2021-06-21 10:11
4 replies
#61
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Brazil BRA71LIAN
+1
2021-06-21 21:56
2 replies
#74
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United States Americah!
name and flair checks out
2021-06-22 01:17
1 reply
#85
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Brazil BRA71LIAN
nt fakeflagger i am real flag
2021-06-22 02:05
why? he's been looking pretty decent these latest matches, doing his job
2021-06-22 01:17
#5
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United States Rayduh
Liquid just won cs_summit 8 with a ton of RMR points and Legends status No roster change until MAJOR STOCKHOLM in my opinion
2021-06-21 10:13
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#35
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Germany yannxbr
+1 would be really stupid
2021-06-21 10:39
I mean its not like they have that much competition in the NA region. I guarantee they'll get at least 2nd or 3rd in the next RMR events which would be more than enough to make it through.
2021-06-21 21:34
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#70
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United States Rayduh
that's true obviously Liquid isn't top 1, but they still can win tournaments
2021-06-21 23:46
#7
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Croatia MiSTeR_SwaG
I will be surprised if they go out of groups tbh
2021-06-21 10:14
23 replies
+1
2021-06-21 10:15
#12
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United States Rayduh
they can't go out in groups bro
2021-06-21 10:18
21 replies
even Faze would beat TL comfortably lol
2021-06-21 10:19
20 replies
#20
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United States Rayduh
It's possible but it's also possible liquid will win and beat Gambit So far they've beaten every top teams such as Navi Virtus Pro (except Astralis obv) and have also lost to some really bad teams like Dignitas
2021-06-21 10:21
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its also possible tha tliquid go win 10 majors in a row but it doesn't mean it's in any way probable. i don't wanna rub it in your nose or whatever it's just how i see TL form
2021-06-21 10:25
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#26
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United States Rayduh
Obv not probable, but it's def more possible than saying Faze would win IEM Cologne let's be honest
2021-06-21 10:25
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even if its twice as probable for liquid to win than faze its still 2 * 0 = 0 Faze won win shit until the major if they qualify, but if they q they will play with no pressure i hope, otherwise they are a lost cause
2021-06-21 10:34
liquid won't beat gambit. it's not possible.
2021-06-21 21:34
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#69
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United States Rayduh
why isn't it possible? Copenhagen Flames beat Gambit
2021-06-21 23:46
1 reply
Copenhagen flames beat gambit 4 months ago at an event that doesn't matter and even then it was a fairly close series.
2021-06-22 01:39
#36
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United States NeoFana
Dude Faze would legit have no change lmao. FaZe might have slightly better strats (Karrigan a bit washed though and when he left mousesports they popped off), but Adren is a GOAT in that department so maybe not. FaZe also has absolutely no firepower or consistency. Grim, Elige, Nag are all Gods compared to everybody but Twistzz. There's legit no chance FaZe wins with Adren there.
2021-06-21 12:09
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ok totally unbiased american brain
2021-06-21 12:31
10 replies
#44
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United States NeoFana
Dude u have faze in ur tag... I know Croatians have hilariously bad education standards but be better lmao. I'm not one of the dumbfuck southern americans that low iq Euros try to strawman NA people as I make 140k a year in California.
2021-06-21 21:23
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I have faze in my tag cos i love faze players but I'm not delusional (unlike some TL fans who still live in 2019). Also I am a student of molecular biology and will probably end up in genetic engineering. Who cars how much you make, you're not a DJ
2021-06-21 21:32
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You are not delusional and you said Faze could beat Liquid "comfortably" LMAO. What a hypocrite...
2021-06-21 21:51
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even constantly losing to tier 1 teams like NaVi and G2 if its close games it means that tier 2 teams like TL would be beaten 2-1 "comfortably" Faze is a tier 2 team for sure but so is liquid stop living in 2019
2021-06-22 01:09
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stop reading after "tier 2 teams like TL". Good luck being a delusional Faze fan, must be really hard. /closed.
2021-06-22 03:21
3 replies
LUL there hasnt been a tier 1 NA team since liquid fell of no matter how hard you cope
2021-06-22 12:50
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#100
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United States NeoFana
LUL Liquid is still insane wtf is this retard saying? Faze literally fell out of the top 30 and only came back because they finished last at an event their rich org was partnered with. Team Liquid is better in every single aspect. Delusional product of Croation education lul
2021-06-23 04:31
1 reply
cope harder
2021-06-23 12:42
Not a single person, outside of the IRS, care about how much money you claim to make.
2021-06-21 21:43
1 reply
+1
2021-06-22 12:58
l u l
2021-06-22 12:57
#9
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Palestine 3BooD
They looked very good at cs summit8 it's sad that they didn't play in the last events in Europe.
2021-06-21 10:16
#13
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Israel s0r
-grim +twistzz
2021-06-21 10:18
4 replies
- Fallen + nitro and you have a really dominant team
2021-06-21 10:20
3 replies
#23
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United States Rayduh
Prime nitr0 only
2021-06-21 10:22
FalleN is doing good, wtf hes doing better than Grim, stewie.
2021-06-21 21:49
1 reply
it was a joke regarding the 2019 Liquid era I agree with you but chill bro it was just a joke
2021-06-22 01:18
Top7-8 imo
2021-06-21 10:37
#37
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Yea semis at least. Enough talent and enough time to gel together now. Anything less than that is a failure and they should look for a better awper than cause Fallen isn't even IGLing now.
2021-06-21 12:12
team liquid in lan = top 1
2021-06-21 13:09
Last time cologne was played offline liquid won, so based on past results I expect liquid to win this time as well
2021-06-21 18:45
#45
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Canada AyyyJayyy
Totally agree with your assessment. If they continue to struggle, they should drop Stewie or Grim
2021-06-21 21:28
IMO EliGE NAF and Stew are safe. Honestly I think FalleN is the most on the chopping block.
2021-06-21 21:30
#47
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Portugal _andrew_
grim won't leave adren already said he wouldn't leave, stewie might leave but fallen won't leave anytime soon
2021-06-21 21:31
They will choke. they scrim with tier 2-4 NA how will they be ready for top 5 teams?
2021-06-21 21:31
They need to do preparation in eu not vs extra salt and tier 100 teams in na
2021-06-21 21:34
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They havent played for ages they should have shitloads of prep done for any potential opponent already, otherwise they're idiots
2021-06-21 22:01
they're not making any roster changes before the major and 6 months is not enough time
2021-06-21 21:34
-Grim +COLDZERA PLS
2021-06-21 21:37
#55
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Bosnia and Herzegovina hyrox1
I can see that EliGE move to VALORANT.
2021-06-21 21:41
6 replies
why would he??
2021-06-21 22:00
5 replies
#65
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Bosnia and Herzegovina hyrox1
NA region died in CS:GO,and TL will not be top 5 or 3 team in any soon time. Also don't think that he would make a move for some European team. And recently past couple of months he mostly tweets about VALORANT,probably playing this game a lot,he is highest rank there i think "RADIANT" or smth. With his game sense and aim i can see him to be top 3 player in VALORANT easily.
2021-06-21 22:10
4 replies
that doesnt make any sense...
2021-06-21 22:11
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#67
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Bosnia and Herzegovina hyrox1
yea I know he is still top tier player in CS:GO and that would be a big loss for a game, but there is no future in NA scene,and he will probably get bored to travel to Europe every 2-3 weeks and lost tournaments.Also in his last stream he plays VALORANT instead of CS:GO,that's tell something.
2021-06-21 22:14
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these assumptions are so random,,, you just assume he will leave liquid all of a sudden
2021-06-21 22:15
No shit, I'd be concerned if the best NA CS player wasn't able to get Radiant in fucking Valorant lmao
2021-06-22 01:15
nobody should be moved just because they dont get past QF. Unless they land brehze there's nobody that would be worth buying out considering the logistics. I expect Liquid to do decent though, they're one of the only teams who I believe can beat Gambit. But yeah, it would only be disappointing if they don't make it out of groups.
2021-06-21 21:44
-Fallen +oSee
2021-06-21 21:59
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#84
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United States gweees
+1
2021-06-22 01:53
#79
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United States Jeebur
They need to hit semis. If they dont then its looking like a -FalleN. Idk who they will pick up in that place, probably import someone but theres no reason to keep an awper that is no longer calling for you and is better at rifling than awping
2021-06-22 01:23
2 replies
Bring back twistzz if they -fallen Or if they want an awper I guess osee
2021-06-22 01:41
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#83
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United States Jeebur
I dont think oSee would budge theyve targetted him in the past i believe. If twistzz came back he wouldnt be used as a star player so idk
2021-06-22 01:51
quarterfinals
2021-06-22 03:23
#88
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Denmark LVNB08
CONFIA NO VERDADEIRO
2021-06-22 03:26
#89
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Brazil Anarchybr
I have a sense they rarely play. I mean, they play one day than the next game is like one month away. Meanwhile gambit, g2, Navi are playing almost every week. It sucks to be a fan of a team and don’t see them playing very often.
2021-06-22 03:29
Anything other than 1st is a dissapointment and should result in the kicking of stewie
2021-06-22 03:38
Liquid needs to play more
2021-06-22 03:40
There is 0% chance stewie is getting kicked.
2021-06-22 03:42
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#93
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United States Rayduh
+1 he's such an important piece of the puzzle
2021-06-22 09:23
#95
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Indonesia lukerey
stew has been their best player for past few months. i think he will continue perform great on cologne. if they dont reach top 4 & want to make changes its on grim tbh.
2021-06-22 12:52
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